Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 25 - Another Transaction

by Chris Pokorny on Aug 25, 2009 11:57 PM EDT in 2009 Training Camp

Is there really a point to roster transactions this late into training camp? Sure, maybe we're trying to scout players that might end up on our practice squad in the future, but a week really isn't a lot to go by.

As I'm sure you can tell, the training camp reports are more so "general team notes" now as opposed to specifics on how the day went. It's like that every year as public camp sessions come to a close.

TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 25 (8/25/09)

The Transaction: After being involved in a couple of reverses late in the game against the Detroit Lions, the Browns waived former Jet WR Paul Raymond. Taking his place is DE Brian Schaefering. Does that name sound familiar? It should, because he was signed by the Browns in May of last year before being waived at the end of training camp. He was added to the Browns' practice squad in early December, before Eric Mangini signed him to the Jets' active roster for the team's final game of the regular season.
Play of the Day: After getting behind CB Hank Poteat, WR Braylon Edwards caught a Brady Quinn pass one-handed in the end zone for a touchdown.
Hot Start, 'Meh' Finish: After starting hot in practice, QB Derek Anderson cooled down and didn't do as well in game simulations. His best plays came early on, when he connected with WR Brian Robiskie and Edwards for scores.
Still MIA: S Brodney Pool did not return to action. All of the other players who have been out stayed out, except for WR David Patten. Patten returned to action and was practicing.
Players at Safety: In his press conference, Mangini brought up the fact that other players on the roster have experience at safety, perhaps alluding to the injuries of Brodney Pool and Hamza Abdullah. Mangini noted DB Hank Poteat and WR Mike Furrey. I loved reading about how a good portion of the media didn't seem to know Furrey started at safety for the St. Louis Rams for nearly a whole season. There's nothing wrong if individual fans don't know that, but if you're constantly writing about the Browns, it should've stood out as a unique note in his player profile when the team first signed him.
Center Update: Maybe we just panicked a little too early about rookie C Alex Mack. After a rough start to training camp, Mack has continued to settle in smoothly. However, you could also note that the "turnaround" started right around the point that a certain someone stopped practicing (Shaun Rogers).

Tuesday's Links/Camp Sources

Furrey to the rescue at safety? (Cleveland Plain Dealer, Grossi)
Quotes, notes, observations (Akron Beacon Journal, Storm)
Berea Report: Back in the spotlight (Orange and Brown Report, Greetham)

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Every game that goes south, will be deemed training camp day one.
The roster never rests, it is always perfectable. This team had a mediocre season last year. I would say we are always looking for valuable additions, lets not be limited by dates, the bank doesn´t close for regular season.

by mooncamping on Aug 26, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions

We went 4-12, that is not mediocre.

by Brad D on Aug 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions

y;all coulda gone like 8-8 in the AFC west though

i think its a mediocre team that had an awful record due to some tough breaks along the way. They fared awfully in close games.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

That might be true the first half of the year. But the second half of the year was a total disaster. Mediocre? They couldn’t beat a MAC team in December.

by Ryan Kelsey on Aug 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Dude. Not cool…

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 27, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

We were good when Quinn took over

" Of course Steroids should be allowed! I wanna see 700 foot home runs and 90 yard field goals! I litterally want to see someone's d**k get shoved in the dirt!"

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 27, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

No, we weren’t.

by Brad D on Aug 28, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Not good, but we were 1-1 against two average teams

" Of course Steroids should be allowed! I wanna see 700 foot home runs and 90 yard field goals! I litterally want to see someone's d**k get shoved in the dirt!"

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 28, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

We were solid with Quinn under center last year.

We were horrid for the last 4 games.

by rufio on Aug 28, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

We were average at worst with Quinn as QB. If the defense hadn’t blown the game against Denver he would have been 2-0 in the two games he started. I can guarentee that if he had stayed healthy and finished the season we would not have finished 4-12.

I don’t see any reason to give up on Quinn yet. He has not had the chance to prove himself in the NFL. He needs to be given that chance this year.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 29, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

He was also playing hurt against Buffalo, so 2 out of the whopping 3 games he has played in, he was injured. There is a lot left to be said about Quinn (could be good or bad, I will grant that, but we don’t know)

by Roger Dorn on Aug 30, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i should tell you

that I’m a diehard Irish fan. Absolute Psycho. Didn’t LOVE quinn though, since I always thought he fared badly in big games ever since the bush-push game (WHICH I WAS AT!!!)

in any event, you guys haven’t seen enough of Quinn in the regular season to know for sure what he can give you. you HAVE seen enough of DA to know that you’ll live or die by his unpredictable streaks. I’d go with Quinn this year just to see what he can do.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 28, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think he fared too badly in big games before or after the bush-push. He played respectable against Ohio State that Fiesta Bowl. Threw 3 TDs, no INTs, and like 250 Yds against USC the following year. And he wasn’t why they lost that Bowl game to LSU either.

The dude carried the Irish those 2 years to solid seasons. They didn’t have a defense to speak of.

by Ryan Kelsey on Aug 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

you're preaching to the choir

but look at his completion percentage in big games following the bush push. (Prior to that bush push season he didn’t have good numbers anyway, and that was his first big game of his first good year.) I don’t remember them offhand, but he fared only OK in those games while he smoked other teams. Sure, you can say he was facing better defenses, but I’m not so sure that explains it all.

And he had a lot to do with that loss to LSU. his only big play was his 60-yard run. That defense shut the passing attack down otherwise.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Aug 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions

LSU was just a far superior team to Notre Dame. I don’t really blame Quinn for that.

by Roger Dorn on Aug 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

We’ve been through this too many times.

by rufio on Aug 28, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

If Quinn and Russel switched places in that game LSU would have won by over 50.

Same thing goes for the bush push game

" Of course Steroids should be allowed! I wanna see 700 foot home runs and 90 yard field goals! I litterally want to see someone's d**k get shoved in the dirt!"

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

You cant convince me against Quinn. I was at his first ND game. I have shaken his hand twice. I have seen every one of his ND games. Don t tell me I havent seen enough Quinn

" Of course Steroids should be allowed! I wanna see 700 foot home runs and 90 yard field goals! I litterally want to see someone's d**k get shoved in the dirt!"

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

How many games have you seen him play in the NFL? Frankly, until he does something here he is just football’s Jeff Manto.

by Brad D on Aug 29, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions

OK I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that he was saying we havent seen enough of Quinn play (in college

" Of course Steroids should be allowed! I wanna see 700 foot home runs and 90 yard field goals! I litterally want to see someone's d**k get shoved in the dirt!"

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 29, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions