NFL Wildcard Sunday: Open Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST
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PrintWell, I went a glorious 0-2 with my Saturday playoff picks as the Jets and the Cowboys each advanced to the next round. At least there was some satisfaction in the Jets' victory when Braylon Edwards dropped an easy touchdown. There are two more playoff games today. This time, only one of the games are a Week 17 re-match. If you would like to comment on either of the games, whether it be before, during, or after the game(s), please do so here. The brief previews are after the jump.
AFC Wildcard: Baltimore Ravens vs. New England Patriots (1:00 PM on CBS) [See SB Nation Coverage Here]
It was an up-and-down season for the Baltimore Ravens. After starting the season at 3-0, the Ravens proceeded to lose their next three games. After that, they pretty much traded wins and losses each week, just barely making the postseason as a wildcard team. One of the losses the 9-7 Ravens suffered this season was back in Week 4 against the Patriots.
What happened in that game? "Roughing the Brady," as Keith Olbermann put it. The Ravens players were furious after the game that the referees were trying to "put a skirt" on Brady, overly protecting him. As the season has come to a close, the Ravens defense has gotten better, only giving up an average of 10 points per game.
For the Patriots, while it wasn't the greatest season, they are still a very efficient team with Tom Brady under center. He'll need to be protected though, because he can't afford to take too many serious shots with broken ribs. The Patriots suffered a big loss with Wes Welker going down last week. As always, they have someone ready to step in -- this time, it's WR Julian Edelman. A 7th-round pick from this year's draft, Edelman stepped in for Welker last week and had 10 catches for 103 yards. Patriots win by 7.
NFC Wildcard: Green Bay Packers vs. Arizona Cardinals (4:40 PM on FOX) [See SB Nation Coverage Here]
Kurt Warner and the Arizona Cardinals basically laid down last week, while the Green Bay Packers gave it their all despite already having clinched a wildcard spot. Unlike the Bengals, I don't envision this being a problem. With that said, even with their "A-game," the Cardinals aren't going to have a cake-walk against one of the league's hottest offenses.
The Packers defense has come alive as of late, but Warner thrives against the blitz. It doesn't seem wise to let Warner have time to throw, but it might be the better option for the Packers. Someone like Charles Woodson, who was regarded by SB Nation as the defensive MVP of the league, can still capitalize for some big turnovers.
Both teams' running games improved as the season moved along. Ryan Grant began getting hot for the Packers while Beanie Wells powered through for the Cardinals. Hopefully Warner doesn't suffer an injury, because any time Matt Leinart has been forced to step in this year, Arizona's offense looks terrible.
Like the Patriots, the Cardinals also suffered a loss last week at the receiver position when Anquan Boldin went down. Boldin is a game-time decision though and will likely give it a go. With all of his weapons at his disposal at home, the Cardinals will win in a shootout and probably the best game of Wildcard Weekend. Cardinals win by 4.
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Feel free to share your own predictions on today's games in this thread as well.
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I’ll go Ravens & Pack to win. Though not necessarily cheer on.
I think I’ll be a fascinated neutral for the first game.
Hey, when do the Steelers play?
Oh, yeah. That’s right…
by emily522 on Jan 10, 2010 12:53 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
I’ll just go and check the schedule again.
;-)
by LondonBrown on Jan 10, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
It really sucks thatwe arehe is going to have to deal withRay Riceus for the next 8 years or so.
Just looking into my crystal ball.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
That run on 3rd and 4 was insane.
Breaks two tackles and runs over two more for a first down. Biggest play on that drive.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, despite the fact that Baltimore is my least favorite team, I encounter so many Pats fans that I am enjoying watching this.
I always like to see Bill Belichick get hammered at home.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Baltimore actually falls third for me in NFL teams I hate:
1. Steelers
2. Patriots
3. Ravens
4. Eagles
5. Bengals
6. Giants
7. Lions
8. Start list of indifferent teams…
I was born during the bout of ’91. Yet I still understand the hate my friend.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Eagles seem really high for a team that we never seem to play.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Philly fans are terrible.
There team, eh, not so much.
I do hate the 76ers and the Phillies though.
Really, Phillies? So creative!
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
For me it is
1. Baltimore
2. Pittsburgh
3. New England
4. Denver
5. Giants
6. Jets
7. Cincy
8. Indy (for Sorgiing us in 2007)
Mine would go like this:
1. Pittsburgh
2. New England
3. Baltimore
4. Denver
5. Dallas
6. San Diego
7. NY Jets
8. Tampa Bay (I have no reason why)
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
1. Oilers
2. Ravens
3. Steelers
4. Cowboys
5. Broncos
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I also hate anyone or anything associated with the city of Atlanta.
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If I didn’t love Dallas for fantasy players, they’d make my list. But, I’ve had Witten the past 2 years, Romo for 2 years, and Miles Austin this year practically saved my team, and helped me win a championship.
I had Austin.
Still don’t like their front running fans.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
1. steelers
2. ravens
i hate those 2 so bitterly that i can neither trouble myself, or afford the time, trying to hate anyone else. let’s go colts.
by Dawg Nuts on Jan 10, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I admire your clarity of purpose, DN.
Go Colts!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m solid with this – just reverse the order and I’m there.
"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay
by woodsmeister on Jan 10, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Teams I hate:
1. Steelers
2. Patriots
3. Ravens (They’d be #2 if I wasn’t 4 when Modell tried to move us. I don’t remember that at all.)
4. Cowboys
5. Bengals
6. Broncos (Wasn’t alive in the 80s…)
7. Lions
Teams I like/will cheer for:
1. Browns (duh)
2. Packers
3. Colts (Only for Peyton Manning and only in the playoffs)
The rest I’m indifferent to.
I lost a lot of respect for Indy after this seasons lay down.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I still really like Peyton.
He was pissed when he was benched.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like I don’t hate the ravens nearly as much as most people on here. their on my list, but they’re probably fourth after the pats and broncos. I don’t hate the ravens for the obvious reason that they used to be our team, i hate them purely for what they have been since then. its not the teams fault the owner is an asshole.
by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
So…..I didn’t exactly expect Baltimore to be up 14-0 with 10 minutes left to go in the first.
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I’m sure Baltimore fans thought they would be ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
You know, I almost added “except for Ravens homers” there.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Billy Cundiff took over their duties a week or so after we released him.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Via Wiki
Two gray logos appear on the 50 yard line of the playing field. They are the stadium logo, representing the bridge and tower at the east entrance to the stadium.
Yep. Even more evidence, this from the Pats website:
Q. What is the logo appearing near mid-field at Gillette Stadium and why does it appear on the field?
A. Painted on each side of the field is the Gillette Stadium logo symbolized by the light tower and bridge.
<a href="http://originwww.patriots.com/fanzone/public/index.cfm?ac=faq" >Link
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
How anyone can root for Baltimore is beyond me. I’d rather watch New England win 5 Super Bowls straight then see the Ravens even get a shot at playing for one.
I hate the patriots. I almost hate them as much as the steelers. they are the most overrated team of the decade, and they’ve had all kinds of help from officials and the league for years (tuck rule, roughing the passer, destroying evidence in spygate). They are the most arrogant, sore losers i’ve ever seen. I sincerely believe their coach is a bad person. I believe its despicable to run up the score on a team or to run off the field before a game is over. They like to pretend they do things differently than other teams, that they are all a bunch of team players. its simply not true. They don’t deserve any of their super bowls this decade. the only thing keeping me from hating them more than the steelers is that the steelers get unconditional hate. I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
The ravens are a bunch of assholes and criminals, and i hate them for that. i have a hard time hating them for the move however, because none of them are responsible for that. i hate art modell, but somehow i just can’t hold that against the entire franchise.
by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I would blockquote the above quote and say something about it, but I think those two got it covered haha.
haha I’m just so full of hate, i need to rant about it like that from time to time
by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
This would be an awesome signature.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
noted
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 11, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
The Patriots already tried to make adjustments by moving the pocket around on playactions for Brady to counter the Ravens’ blitz. It hasn’t worked. They’ll need some adjustments quickly.
As I write that, another pick. Lateral, near touchdown.
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As much as I despise the Ravens, their defense has been unbelievable thus far. Wow.
I was not looking forward to another Indy/Balt. playoff match, because I thought Manning would easily be able to pick them apart. Now I’m interested in seeing it again, because I love watching Manning be methodical and hit the clutch play in a tight game against the Ravens at their best.
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I love watching Manning make Ray Ray look like a boob throwing for 400.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yay, we got a mention on a playoff game! (High five)
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Kevin Faulk is usually the Patriots playoff hero; maybe he’ll lead the way to a comeback.
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BostonPhilly fans are booing their poster boy. Inever thought I’dsee it every other day.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
That is what happens when you are dealing with a fair weather city.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Via text from my friend:
“This is freakin’ embarrassing.”
(She’s a Pats fan. But it’s legit because she’s from Boston.)
IT’S OK EVERYBODY! SHE’S ACTUALLY FROM BOSTON! CLEAR OUT THERE’S NOTHING TO SEE HERE…
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I feel for her and the real Pats fans. Talk about a complete breakdown. Still, there’s so much time left….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
We shall not speak of these things again.
Anyway, sure it’s unlikely, but stranger things have happened, especially with 40 minutes of football left.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
It’d be extra sweet were the Ravens to lose now.
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Speaking of fair weather fans, someone guy wrote on their Facebook a few weeks ago: “The Colts suck. I’m a Jets and sort of Patriots fan now.”
Last I checked, Jets and Patriots are rivals…
I heard when the Colts went 14 – 1, a fan went and replaced his Colts license plate with a standard issue Indiana plate because he was so disgusted.
He was such a front runner, he waited at the DMV. Wow.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
aaaaaaaaaaand here come the pretzels!
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Jan 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I was literally racing to finish before you haha. =]
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
While were on the subject of the Simpsons, Tom Brady actually made an appearance on the show:
by Simmsinns on Jan 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
After the touchdown, I love how Craft has to get up and high-five every person in his vicinity.
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You just asked for an internet high five 15 minutes ago.
Oh! Burn!
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sarcastic high five in my case ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Leigh Bodden with the break-up I believe, leading to the pick!
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It’s funny how so many other teams hope to replicate a Wes Welker, but the team that loses him is the only one that’s successful in doing so (obviously way too early to say that officially; just highlighting the comparisons being made).
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Fast? Check.
Acceleration? Check.
Quick change of direction? Check.
Runs routes well? Check.
And most importantly…
White? CHECK.
Alas, typical slot receiver… (opening old wounds…)
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Moss misses Fridays quite often.
Somehow, I’m not the least bit surprised. That must be his day to toke up.
Ideal situation for Pats: force a punt here, score a TD before the half. Get the ball first after the half, score TD, back in it.
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Ideal situation for Pats: force a punt here, score a TD FG before the half. Get the ball first after the half, score TD, back in it.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ideal situation for Pats: force a punt here, score a TD FG before the half. Get the ball first after the half, score TD, back in it.Make it to the half.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, yep, was just about to update it to that :p
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
In NCAA news, did any hear the latest USC issue(s)?
Several recruits are already thinking about jumping ship (technically they were never quite aboard), and going elsewhere. Good luck with a mediocre to terrible team L.A., and you thought this year was bad? Ha. You ain’t seen nothing yet. No Carroll, no recruits, and investigations…
Ahem,
“Even with Carroll and many impact players leaving, I still think that USC still has an unprecedented shot at winning the National Title.” – What commentator will say this hypothetical statement?
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I could not think of his name. But knew instantly. Was actually scouring the internet to remind me. I’m having a brain fart, what’s this guys name?
if it wasn’t evident to people already, it should be crystal clear by now: players commit to coaches, not universities. USC was grabbing the top recruits year in, year out… now that he’s gone? All the top names are “considering their options”. It’s no different at any other school, and it’s the primary reason that Urban Meyer is remaining at UF in his advisory role (or whatever it is).
You are reading my signature.
But USC is still a pretty attractive school for other reasons, regardless of who coaches (location, weather, tradition, etc.) Unlike a place like Cincinnati, where the attractiveness just went down pretty dramatically with Brian Kelly’s departure.
"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay
by woodsmeister on Jan 10, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
of course it is. if i was a premier high school athlete and received an offer to go to school in southern california for two years, i’d accept the offer yesterday. but Kyle Prater and Dillon Baxter, two highly regarded skill position players, have both made it known that they are reconsidering, one of them saying they are now “wide open”. Another USC commitment, Ronald Powell, switched to Florida yesterday.
Consider NCAA hoops and how all of Calipari’s Memphis recruits switched to UK. The situation with USC is a bit different with the potential NCAA sanctions, but the fact so many minds changed upon Carroll’s move shows what the real reason is.
You are reading my signature.
It really shows how classy the fellas at U$C are.
The recruits couldn’t get a call back from anyone during this whole saga.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Great throw, Tom.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I can endorse that, although not as strongly as I endorsed the Ravens losing. Well, at least Cincy ate it yesterday….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I hope the first series today for him isn’t indicative….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
MinorMajor setback…
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
All right Cardinals! Punch it in again!
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Doucett, easy TD!
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 10, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry for your loss.
It’d be nice if there was a game on today.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
This isn’t related to anything, but is there any receiver that you would want on the Browns more than Larry Fitzgerald? He seems like the ultimate team guy and he’s such a SOLID receiver. Andre Johnson perhaps, but anyone else, forget it.
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While we’re at it, is there any young QB that you’d rather have on the Browns than Aaron Rodgers? I might say Rivers, but he kinda comes off as a tool, so I think I’d rather have Rodgers.
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Go Cards! I root for them occasionally.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 10, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions
My second favorite team behind the Browns.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
They’d better close the deal. Suddenly they have a game on their hands!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one here who really hates the Raiders?
Pittsburgh/Baltimore obviously the two teams I always want to see lose.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 10, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions
It is like hating a wounded animal. It just doesn’t feel right to me.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like the Raiders. A bunch of thugs seem to make up their fanbase. I would feel bad for their fans because their owner is NUTS, but again, they’re thugs, so yeah…
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Man, what a defensive struggle. :)
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wild. Wish the Packers would have pulled it out, but it sure turned into a game!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, down by 21… it could’ve ended much worse.
The image of Rodgers missing Driver downfield on that first play will haunt me forever.
You actually seem Packers first, Browns second.
Thats sad.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all. The Browns weren’t in the playoffs. The Packers were. If both were in the playoffs, I wouldn’t give a crap what was going on with the Packers. But, as we know, that’s not the case…
Is this where you tear your face off and reveal that you’ve been a Cheesehead all along? :)
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Rogers never should have kicked that ball.
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I don’t understand that. That was the tuck rule to the “T”, The play was identical of Bradys. But this crew missed calls all game, why not miss another one. Helmet to Helmet on Rogers, Fitzgeralds obvious push off for the one score and the no call on the fumble. Great game horrible officials
Has to touch the ground to invoke the tuck rule. Since Dansby caught it on the fly (off Rogers foot) it’s an interception.
I think that’s how it works…
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I am glad they didn’t make the facemask call. I thought Arizona made a nice play, and deserved to win that way. If the facemask is called Green Bay keeps the ball and gets a first down and probably wins.
I feel they didn’t call it because they missed the one of Warner earlier.
Fair.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
The officials were pretty bad on the first game as well. Didn’t have an impact on the score, but I saw 4 or 5 bad calls (the Baltimore fumble which wasn’t, the 2 point conversion which did break the plane, no interference call on Watson, the spot on the ball on that Flacco run, etc)
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 10, 2010 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Here’s who I want to win next week:
1) Cardinals
2) I’ll pick Cowboys, but I don’t want them in the Super Bowl.
3) Colts
4) Chargers
So, you want the Cardinals, who are ran under a former Steeler, to make it to the SB again?
Nice, Packers fan.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Beanie Wells! I would love to see him get a ring as rookie. I met him twice, he’s freaking awesome. He’s close to Cribbs in terms of most likable sports players.
I’d rather see the Cardinals than the Saints win Sunday. I think the Saints are a bit overrated and the Cardinals are overall a better team. I’d like to see the better team win. Plus, Kurt Warner is probably retiring after this year. So if it was between Brees, Romo, and him getting a ring… I’d pick Kurt.
Does it matter if the Cardinals are coached by a former Steeler? He’s not there anymore, so I don’t see how that has anything to do with it. If Bill Cowher came to coach the Browns, would you not want him because he’s a former Steeler?
I have no idea why rooting for the Packers in the playoffs when the Browns aren’t even in it is such a bad thing. It’s not like I’d ever root them if they played the Browns.
It’s not like I’d ever root them if they played the Browns.
would have worked out better for you this year…
I’m just ruffling your feathers is all. K?
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Okay. Sorry for overreacting. I just didn’t want anyone on the board to think I was jumping ship on the Browns for the Packers. I’d never do that. I just got into cheering for the Pack because they’re fun to watch and they have a nice, loyal fan base. And in case anyone else couldn’t tell, I’m a huge Rodgers fan.
In other news (I don’t really know where else to put this), Mark McGwire admitted to taking steroids. I did NOT see that one coming!
He wants into the HoF. Admitting should get people to finally vote for him.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
He’s the new hitting coach for the Cards. Rumor has it that the Cards demanded a public confession as a prerequisite for employment (so that all of the questions and rumors wouldn’t be a distraction to the team once the season begins).
Now, if only they’d get Tony LaRussa to own up to his involvement in the steroids era…
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Now, if only they’d get Tony LaRussa to own up to his involvement in the steroids era…
I’m sure that he had no knowledge his two best players were on steroids.
Nope. Totally normal.
By the way for all the crap he took and everyone calling him a liar, Canseco is still is getting them right.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 12, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
That is totally not weird and disgusting.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Admitting should get people to finally vote for him.
That’s such bull. Why let someone who cheated into the HOF? It makes no sense to me.
Well, it wasn’t illegal at it’s height if I’m correct or it wasn’t cheating. Peer pressure, and the fact that almost every great player did it in the 90s…
Also, the idea of admitting gives you sympathy and allows voters to stop holding the grudge they have against you because you finally came clean.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
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