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"Everybody had mixed feelings about (Mangini)," Revis said. "As a team, you can't go far (like that). ... We're men, we're not boys. Coach Mangini ran it like a high-school team where he wanted all the control."

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At least he doesn’t weigh 300+ pounds, didn’t come from the Ravens and doesn’t cry.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Srsly.

This Jets organization is just full of class. Didn’t Rex Ryan trash some of their opponents publicly during the season? And how many of the Jets players have some kind of a grudge against Mangini? Wah, the coach made you work and held you to some sort of standards, get over it.

Oh, let’s not forget… Braylon Edwards plays for the Jets now.

So classy.

I’m proud to be a Browns fan and glad I’m not a Jets fan.

by shep615 on Jan 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

You can say that again.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t care for Ryan and of course I despise Braylon…other than that I really have no opinion of the Jets one way or another…unless we’re playing them that week.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 11, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting since Mangini was the one that really pushed for the Jets to draft Revis.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 10, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t really see what that has to do with this quote. Is Revis not allowed to be critical of Mangini because the coach wanted to draft him?

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Where did you gather that I said he wasn’t allowed? I just said it was interesting.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 10, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No, you didn’t say it wasn’t allowed, it just seemed to me that you implied he shouldn’t have done that since Mangini drafted him. I know you didn’t say that exactly but that’s what I thought you meant. I mean, why else would you say it was “interesting”?

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I just find the turn of events interesting that Mangini went from coach enamored with the pro prospects of Revis to a guy that his former players, including those he drafted, feel the need to still make comments about.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 10, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The sword does not need to like the swordsmith.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 10, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know when this quote happened exactly. from the sound of it, it seems like it was led in by a question about mangini. he has no motive to not show his feelings for mangini. why shouldn’t he express his opinions, mangini isn’t his coach anymore…that is why i take his comments somewhat seriously.

I doubt, because of the form of the quote, and the fact that revis isn’t much of a problem, that this was unprovoked. it sounds like a reporter asked him about mangini. in that case, say what you want to say…

by bross09 on Jan 11, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

if it makes you feel any better, i got what you meant.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on Jan 11, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, I didn’t mean for it to be particularly insightful, just an interesting turn of events.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 11, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure why he felt compelled to say it either, but the sentiment does make some sense. Mangini has admitted as much that sometimes, in his disciplinarian ways, he’s made mistakes.

On the flip side, you have organizations like the Washington Redskins where, right after the Zorn firing, a lot of players were complaining about the lack of discipline and different set of rules for ‘star’ players, i.e. Portis and Haynesworth.

Point is, I think generally teams needs some balance, where the pendulum doesn’t swing too far either way.

by Western Reserve on Jan 12, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly…I think mangini could have used for a little more balanced and I feel he will maybe be a little more balanced this yr.

by bross09 on Jan 12, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think from what the players are saying now that they believe Mangini had enough balance.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Jan 12, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

players say what they are supposed to say when they are being coached…

by bross09 on Jan 12, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Except all players weren’t saying that throughout the year. I think the ones that are still here do feel that way.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Jan 12, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I’d generally agree with that. I think Mangini has learned some things and evolved to a certain degree. It’s hard to know exactly what goes on in the locker room, but he certainly seems to have a core group of guys playing hard for him, as evident by the team not quitting down the stretch.

by Western Reserve on Jan 13, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe…I also agree with what western said…he does seemed to have mellowed out a bit. he came in all fiery but has seemed to have mellowed out…I honestly think he has more balance than when he got here.

by bross09 on Jan 13, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

its not like players are loyal soldiers to the coach who drafted them. they follow the coach that they like the best.

by bross09 on Jan 11, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think (hope?) that Mangini is smart enough to understand the mistakes he made in New York.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, me too. No matter what you think of Mangini now, it’s clear that he made some mistakes in New York with the way he treated his players so hopefully he has learned from that.

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 10, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

This made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 10, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. I have no clue who any of those people are.

I did feel bad for the last guy getting booed at while getting his jersey.

by emily522 on Jan 10, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, I have an update for you all…

It’s 9:57 PM on January 10, 2010, and Braylon Edwards still sucks. So do the Wolverines.

:-)

by shep615 on Jan 10, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

these updates always make my day.

by bross09 on Jan 11, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Braylon needs to catch more balls so we get that draft pick. Only reason I was ok with the Jets winning. Hopefully, postseason catches count.

by rufio on Jan 11, 2010 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

i hope so too, but i really doubt it.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on Jan 11, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not? As far as the article was concerned, Edwards single handedly carried the Jets on his back. Haha That’s an oxymoron, Edwards and carrying because he has to catch it first.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think postseason catches count. Too bad they didn’t tag it to drops instead.

by NM Dawg on Jan 11, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

And how far have they gotten without him? Same season record, but this time things broke their way and they make the playoffs. On top of that, the team gets a sweet opening round game against a team with no wind in it’s sails.

Let’s see how the team performs next week in the whale’s vagina before we start giving much credence to anything coming out of the Jets.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jan 11, 2010 6:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Really, the Browns would have beaten the Bengals on Saturday. That team was putrid.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jan 11, 2010 6:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Really, the Browns would have soundly beaten the Bengals on Saturday.

Fixed.

Carson Palmer: Is he completely hopeless? (I don’t have an opinion, I just enjoyed posting those words like all the Bengals news outlets have been doing since that game.)

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 12, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I do enjoy the fact that for the last few years the Bengals were convinced they would have won the Super Bowl if Carson hadn’t got hurt.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Jan 12, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Palmer’s regression is really pretty amazing, I think. It looked for a time as if he was going to be an outstanding QB, but now he seems to me to be generally below the league mean: occasionally has a good game, matched by occasional stinkers. In fact, he has looked a lot like a Browns QB in the last few weeks of the season.

by drjeo on Jan 13, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

In fact, he has looked a lot like a Browns QB in the last few weeks of the season.

The ultimate insult!

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 13, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

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