How'd you become a fan?
We're probably the 2'nd craziest fanbase in the league. Just who sticks with a team that's only had two decent seasons in 10 years?
We all have our reasons.
It's been a decade since the Browns came back. Whether you've been there since childhood, or you got picked up part way, share your stories here.
For those who don't know me (which I assume is everyone), I didn't even LIKE football till 2005 (my freshman year in highschool). I spent that year watching the buckeyes, but my first game was an NBC broadcast of Notre Dame (hence my man-love for Quinn).
The year afterwards, I started watching Browns football. Don't know why other than all my relatives lived in Cleveland, and therefore were Browns fans. I figured Browns = my favorite team by default. I've always been a passionate fan since then, but I've been hardcore ever since Cleveland drafted Quinn.
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I was born a Browns fan in ‘91. I never actually had understood, nor kept track of them till ’05 because I had of come of age to actually appreciate it. I still didn’t really understand it either till 2007 when we had that 10 – 6 season and also when I tried out for my HS FB team for the first time ever my Jr. year with no absolute clue of how football and its terminology worked. Going in completely empty minded and eventually starting my senior year allowed me to understand the Browns far more than I would have if I never had played football.
So, there you go.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions
Mad props for being a FB. I played FB my freshman year… I would’ve kept playing, but the varsity team ended up going with a shotgun offense to use our QB (Taylor Housewright… He’s the man) effectively. The starting FB literally got about 4 snaps a season, so I decided to go to college early instead :-)
I was our team’s FB too (only I started with an empty head in my sophomore year). Our offense lives through our FB. My senior year I would get mop up duty after we had blown out the game. I even got my only career TD the very last game of the season. I’m glad coach just kept calling my number…ahhh, sweet memories.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 12, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
I meant FB as in Football haha. I played blindside OT. So essentially, just as hard a job. Our FB was our top RB though. Strongest dude you’d ever meet. He plays for Muskiggum(sp?) now.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
yeah…oftentimes you have a great FB. my HS did. I played for a couple seasons. DT. and occasionally guard (but more in backup duty). the fullback though is pretty good. I think he converted to a ILB and plays at Miami.
I figured you meant a fullback…i just wanted to slip in a mooncamping joke.
He he was starting FB and starting Mike. I personally, think he shoud’ve gone for ILB in college not FB.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
true…I actually looked it up and my friend is a FB.
ironically our senior team (which I wasn’t on) sent 3 ppl to D1 schools with scholarships but we were only 6-6
I’ll jump in on this discussion. I started at defensive end my junior and senior years (10 sacks my junior year, not so many my senior year) and played tackle until moving to guard and starting my senior year.
I also got run over in practice on a consistent basis by Brian Robiskie.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 12, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
that kinda sucks…but at the same time is kinda cool…The coolest thing I can say is that i blocked next to a 3 star freshman recruit at Mich St (who probably will make it into the pros).
Len Dawson played HS ball at my HS. I imagine that I’ve blocked for a few future pro athletes.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Since almost all my playing time came on scout team, I got to play against William Studlien (who got recruited by Northwestern as a LB) Colton Griffith (who got recruited by Marshall as a DT), and Mark Nelson who was recruited by Cincinatti Bearcats as a LB.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 12, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was a 140 lb freshman, he was a 180lb senior. he may have been a skinny wide receiver, but he was still a lot bigger than 14 year-old me.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 12, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I was born a browns fan about a year earlier. My dad had season tickets and season tickets have been in my family since the mid 50’s. my dad was there for the good times (the ’64 championship) and the bad times (red right 88, the drive). he has witnessed it all…
That is just a background of my family.
I remember going to games at the old municipal stadium. very few ppl my age remember it but I somehow have memories of it. My dad would go all the time. the first game I remember clearly was in 1995. I was about 5. I thought the browns were the best team in the world…when you are young you always think that. the browns were playing the packers and they lost. I thought “how could the browns lose, they are the best team ever”…this also started my love of favre (his debacles the last few years have started my hatred for him, but now this is a different subject). I remember being sad that the browns were leaving. my dad also taught me that art modell sucks even though I didn’t understand it. I went around saying it all the time. I also called him an assface (my dad didn’t teach me that one). I guess I was just a smart Kid. I have always been a browns fan although that went away when they left. when they came back, i was starting to get really interested in sports. I remember going to games and I would follow them. I learned so much about the sport those first few years and would love to pour over stat sheets. I have been a diehard fan ever since and never have regretted this decision. being a browns fan is in my blood and in my genetics almost. I am a 3rd generation browns fan and hope one day to be a 3rd generation ticket holder. I love the history of the browns and If I had one wish it would to be born in about 1945ish. At that age, I would have been able to witness the great otto graham and those great browns teams and watch jim brown…I would also have been alive to see jimi hendrix…always a cool Idea…and to see janis joplin.
I was a Bengals fan in the mid 80’s .But in the 86 season I started to watch the Browns with my dad more and more.As the year wen’t the more I found myself watching the Browns.The game vs the Jets in the Playofs just finished it off .From there on out I have always and will always be a Browns fan.
Then you could have just as easily been a Bengals fan. But I digress.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 12, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Was born and raised in Northeast Ohio
Exactly. My father wasn’t a huge Browns fan, but would watch them when they were on. I think indirectly, it was his love of the Indians that would bring me to them; started going to (or, remembering) Indians games when I was 5 (1985), and when I discovered the Browns were the city’s football team, it was just a natural progression. I think the Cavs followed in ‘87, although I’ve fallen off their fanwagon in the late ’90’s. I enjoy watching Lebron and the Cavs, but I secretly hope they don’t win a title before the Indians or Browns do.
I have a picture of me when i was 4 or 5, at Municipal Stadium for an Indians game, sitting on Bob Golic’s and Doug Dieken’s laps. I’ll see if I can upload it somehow (our scanner saves as pdf files so i wouldn’t know how to post it).
You are reading my signature.
We’reprobably the 2’ndthe craziest fanbase in the league.
Fixed.
I remember watching games in my basement with my father on a black and white as he told me that Brian Sipe and the boys were a second half team.
He took me to my first game in the pound. Together we have watched all the high’s (the few we’ve had) and the soul crushing lows (there have been many).
I became a Browns fan because of my father, and I couldn’t think of a better reason.
You forgot about the Raider’s fanbase. I’m not sure I could root for crazy Al Davis.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 12, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
BWABBA BRETT FAVRE BWABBA HOW DARE YOU BWABBA FAVRE WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN! …BWABBA.
Who said this?
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I meant John Madden in general, but close enough.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
My oldest bro was a fan before me, and I, being the bratty little brother that copied everything the older brother did, became a Browns fan too. It started in 2003 where I casually watched the Browns every now and then. 2004 was a little better, I think I knew who some of the starters were, and I think that’s the year when I defended the Kellen Winslow pick as if I knew anything about the game (I’ve since realized Kellen Winslow is kinda a douche). Then Charlie Frye’s name started getting thrown around in 2005, and I had grown up watching him play ball in high school, so I started following REAL close. I’ve been die-hard ever since.
Growing up in Asia I had minimal football coverage. Then the Internet happened and suddenly watching NFL was possible. Then I befriended an American in school who convinced me to watch some clips of Ladainian Tomlinson on youtube. I thought the game was pretty cool.
I chose the Browns because it was mentioned in ‘A Million Little Piece’ by James Frey. Average book. But that was the only team name I knew when I was choosing clubs. That was pretty much it.
Pretty much hooked now. I will visit Cleveland some day. Hoping it’s this year.
Probably the only Cleveland Browns fan in all of Sydney, NSW.
Haha, Frey was from Shaker Heights. He actually lives in NYC now and is the president of one of the two Browns Backers clubs.
He still has a high status even when Oprah shot him out of the sky?
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 12, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
One side Cleveland fans (dad) the other Pittsburgh fans (mom). I have not once ever questioned whether or not I made the right choice. I only started really paying attention when he-who-shall-not-be-named began showing interest in moving the club. It was a happy day when they came back, cause I didn’t watch anyone during the barren years.
Cleveland sports has been something I have been able to discuss with my family, we are multi-generational in our fandom. And Cleveland fans, all the same.
One side Cleveland fans (dad) the other Pittsburgh fans (mom).
This will be my future children’s fate and my measuring stick as a parent.
You are reading my signature.
My father’s fanaticism got transferred to me, that’s usually how it works.
This is one of the things that I look back on when people start bringing up the whole LeBron is a Yankee fan. He is also a Cowboy fan, a Bulls fan and grew up in a house with a single mom. This just shows me the impact of having a dad in the house that follows sports. Of course he’s not a Cleveland fan, LeBron didn’t have anyone to tell him who to root for, so he ended up listening to the media in the 90’s telling him who his favorite teams should be.
Luckly, my dad had the foresight to cheer for teams that would make me suffer by being their fan. And I love him for it.
by Chief WaDrew on Jan 12, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Moved to Cleveland in 1996. No team existed. Casually followed the Chiefs until the Browns return in 1999. Became a full-fledged Browns fan immediately upon their return to the NFL.
NB: I justify the switching of team loyalties because a. I would have been a Browns fan if the team were there right when I moved (still young at that point.) b. I was a huge Indians and Cavs fan immediately.
i’ve posted on this a few times before:
my fandom was passed down from my grandfather and father. i’ve been following since the mid 80’s, when i remember watching bernie and the boys. my grandfather was such a nervous fan that he couldn’t watch suspenseful games. he made me walk around the neighborhood with him in the snow during the AFC Championship because he couldn’t stand the pressure and i missed “the Drive” (maybe a good thing). i remember cheering so loudly when bernie threw a bomb that ended up being about a 90 yard TD in a monday night game against, i think, the bears, that i woke my mother up. my other grandfather was a steelers fan and bought me a few articles of steelers clothing to try and convert me, but it never worked. i could go on and on with my browns memories, but i won’t; the memories were all good in their own way, even when they were bad. i’m 36 years old, but every browns game turns me back into a kid and makes me miss my grandfather. i’m sure we all have stories like this and its why we all have a strong bond even without really knowing one another. to me, being a browns fan is something special and different than anything else.
oh, i don’t know exactly, but it was from around the time of their inception. i know he used to talk about graham and groza. how about yours?
I think a little bit after. I think my grandpa got in at around the early 50’s. I know my dad talks about seeing jim brown play in person…that must have been great.
i'm young
I started liking you guys when you starting sucking last year. I have a place in my heart for struggling teams, which is probably because my home team (the Eagles) are one of the winningest of the era, but have yet to go all the way. When I see a bunch of guys out there without the talent, but struggling for life every week, it makes me all nostalgic of the Eagles of past…
so, that’s why I like the Raiders and Browns…well, that, and tradition. These teams have some of the best heritage in football. And, the uniforms are sweet.
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 12, 2010 1:11 PM EST reply actions
david justice...
ya, i was a HUGE david justice (played on atlanta braves then indians) when i was a kid. after he got traded to the indians, my mom and i came to cleveland to see him and the indians play. one of the mornings we got a free newspaper and the headline was “browns are back,” so this must have been during ‘97 or ’98. ever since then i’ve followed the browns, and it soon became my lifestyle to love them. i live in topeka, kansas and in all this time i’ve only ran into 1 MAYBE 2 other browns fans here, but i love being known as the guy who loves the browns. a year or two ago i found a pair of david justice’s game used cleats on ebay that were his first pair as an indian, nobody bought them, so i talked the guy into selling them for $100, they’re both signed and on the left one he wrote “my first pair of shoes as an indian.” i love those as they show the reason/transition of me being a dawg for life.
This may be the best FanPost ever. It’s great hearing about all these stories, mainly because so many of them are alike. I’ve been grandfathered into being a Browns fan, it’s been in my family for decades, making me a 3rd generation fan. Sound familiar?
Here’s to hoping that I do a good enough job as a dad to get my children to be Browns fans instead of them siding with my fiancee and the Broncos.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
ouch. good luck sir. i’m sure truth and justice will prevail. my wife’s family are all steelers fans, so i feel your pain.
Ouch, that’s even worse. Thinking of my kids possibly being Broncos fans gives me headaches, Steelers fans though? That’s more than one man should have to handle! Good luck to you and your future generation of Browns fans!
From the other posts, it seems to me most people on here followed their fathers’ teams more than their mothers’, so I guess that bodes well for us right?
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
Come to think of it….I don’t really count myself as a third generation fan since a) I didn’t start watching Browns/football in general till my mid-teens. b) My father supposedly “cut ties” with the Browns when douche-who-shall-not-be-named moved the team. He’s pretty pessimistic about the team and teases me whenever I’m trying to watch the games.
But all that aside, my grandfather is a Browns fan as well. He even took us to the Browns-Colts game back in 09’. I’m ashamed to say I was one of those ‘bad fans’ who was cheering when Anderson got hurt….
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 12, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
yeah…I dunno what to say about your dad. I understand not wanting to be a fan after douche-who-shall-not-be-named and being pessimistic but It would have been a little better if he stayed with the browns…I do understand how he became that way…tons of fans became pessimistic…thankfully my dad didn’t and I was introduced to the browns in 1999.
i’ve done okay so far. my 7 yr. old daughter frequently says “the steelers stink, don’t they daddy.” when my 2 yr. old daughter was born, i made it clear to the in-laws that if they bought her any steelers stuff, it would be violently destroyed, no kidding, so they shouldn’t waste their money on it.
Violently destroyed is such an awesome idea. I told my fiancee that if they buy my kids Broncos clothing, they’re wasting their money cause it will never be worn on my watch. I should probably tell my future in laws this as well…
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
by Browns town on Jan 13, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
My in-laws bought a Steelers onesie for my older daughter once, and though I threatened to burn any Steelers garb that came in my doorway, I didn’t. Instead, when I was changing her daiper I put the onesie exacly where it belonged, in the daiper genie with the rest of the crap.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 13, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
What are we guessing that the average age of people that participated in this discussion?
There are just a lot of the, “I’ve only been watching for a few years”, “a couple of years ago in high school I”, type comments. Not so many of the NFL championship flag-bearers (completely aware that that is another generation that isn’t into the whole blog scene, but I digress).
true…to have witnessed any of the world championships in person, you would have to be at least 50 (mid 50’s to actually really remember it). my dad was one. however, he doesn’t blog much and isn’t that computer literate. that is why you won’t see many ppl who witnessed the ‘64 championship…most ppl under 40 are partially internet illiterate. my dad is better than some but he still wouldn’t see the fun in this or understand it as well as I.
what yo takin bout willis? LOL, hate to tell you, I’ m going to be 70 this year, and started with a computer from radioshack, TRS 80, used a cassette player for a hard drive and had to make most of my programs since there was’nt any. So mind your manners young lad and give us ole foks there due
wbaron
I didn’t say all people (i meant to say over but said under) 40 are partially computer illiterate. There are definitely some. There is never an answer that is completely 100%. I said most, because just about all people I know that are over 40 are not that good with computers (even some ppl in their mid to late 30s aren’t). I am not trying to offend anyone, I am just saying that it is likely on this kind of blog, there will be more younger people. It is just the nature of technology. I am glad that there are older, tech savvy people on here.
Ha!
Was it the discussion on grammar or the bickering over the use of common, textual abbreviations, i.e. ‘lol’ and ‘haha,’ that really sold you?
by Western Reserve on Jan 12, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I particularly liked the one about the genetic makeup of black people making them faster and better runningbacks :-)
yeah…I wasn’t there for that but wouldve loved it…it is technically a biological fact. they are born with many more fast twitch muscles which make them excell in short bursts of speed, acceleration, quick cuts, and jumping. it is not all blacks though. blacks that would have been taken from eastern africa (though that was rare in the early slave trade) have more slow twitch muscles which make them excell at long distances.
BQIB
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 12, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
So are you done with the Browns if Quinn isn’t a Brown in the next two seasons?
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 12, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
He’s said he’d stay before.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 13, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
If Quinn isn’t with the Browns, I’ll continue following his career with ernest but I’m a Browns man pure and simple. The name on the door is CLEVELAND.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 13, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
is ernest your other favorite player?
by Dawg Nuts on Jan 13, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I personally have been a Browns fan as long as I can remember, as to who caused it, my guess would be my older cousin Tyler. I idolized him as a kid, but then again I was born at Metro General and spent the 1st 13 years of my life on the North Coast, between the West Side and the swamps (North Ridgeville), I was then transplanted into “Stiller” territory, the northernmost tip of WV, which I uneffectionately call the middle finger,(take a look at the shape of WV on a map sometime and you’ll understand) which only made more of a diehard fan. I now live right outside of Shittsburgh, and will do everything in my power to keep my daughters from cheering for the team I hate the most out of any team in any sport.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also I’ll add that I was born in 86, and while I have yet to go to a Browns game, I did get to see the Tribe face the A’s at the Muni, I still have the tickets to that game in a photo album somewhere.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Shame on me, I completely forgot to mention my mom and dad in the above comment. You see they raised me on WMMS, who used to be the best radio station in Cleveland, so I was absorbing the Browns through osmosis from MMS, what with their constant coverage of the Browns and never ending source of comical Browns themed songs.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 16, 2010 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
Can you believe Maxwell quit? I’m heartbroken.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 16, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Wait whatnow? I was pissed when Rover’s Morning Glory left Cleveland, screw Chicago.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 16, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what now? I didn’t know Rover is relayed in through Chicago. I listen to him every morning. Maxwell got snubbed on his hours so he walked.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 16, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Rover left Cleveland over contract issues in like spring of 05.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 17, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Just check above. Personally, I think that Raiders’ fans are even crazier for sticking with a team run by crazy Al Davis.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 12, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Lions’ fans deserve an honorable mention here.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 16, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
At least THEY know who their QB of the future is. AND they have a WR who can catch.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 16, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Here it goes, a corny but true story. ( Growing up in central Pennsylvania)
1965 Championship game, I am 7 years old, just getting the idea of sports. My Uncle comes over a big Packer fan. My Dad tells me to root for the Browns and razz him. So I listen to my father and do the like. For Christmas that year our parents, excuse me, Santa brought me a safe with 5 dollars in it. So my Uncle says “lets bet that 5 dollars on the game” Of course I did, I was seven. Browns lose 23-12, Jim Browns last game. I do recall the bad weather, and the Packers running the ball on almost every play. My Uncle, God love him, took my money. I was crushed. So as he is leaving, he says " go check that safe" Inside was a 10 dollar bill, this was big time, 1965 ten dollars.
From that point on it has been the Browns. When they left to go to Baltimore, my wife said " Just try rooting for them " ( The Ravens), It was the worst taste in my mouth I ever experienced ( And I ate stuff in the Phillipines)
There is no other pro team, it is the Browns.
my wife said " Just try rooting for them " ( The Ravens)
Karate chop your wife for me.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 12, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love my wife. But yeah it was a combination of not having a team to root for and the Ravens roster did have Browns on it . That was a bad time for Brown fans.
That is why in some respects I can’t stand the Ravens more than the Steelers.
yes…but at the same time, the ravens fans out of all our rivals respect us the most IMO from what I have witnessed. the ravens did go through what the browns went through. from all our bitching (no offense at all) what the colts did might have been worse. that was somewhat in the middle of the night and they gave the fans not notice…plus they took the team name. I am not praising douche-who-must-not-be-named…he is still the evil one in my book and (I am so tempted to reference HP…since I said book…) I want him do die, but baltimore did go through something about as bad…and they DID have a storied franchise. I have talked to ravens fans, and the older ones, who were around for when the colts left, they do not like how they got the ravens. they think it was underhanded and they feel it was a slap in the face to cleveland. for all you might think about the ravens, they do feel our pain somewhat. I dunno about younger fans but any fan over 35, who would have been aware when the colts left, does feel our pain. (I was looking it up and the colts have been around as long as the browns just about…so just as storied)
Motion to make Douche-who-shall-not-be-named’s name officially Douche-who-shall-not-be-named.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 13, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
damn. I wanted to second. Lets put this through as a motion in the mock browns fan senate…let it bypass all draft talk…
Want to make a poll? That’ll settle everything.
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 13, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Chuck Norris only roots for the Browns. Sure his magical beard could fix the franchise with one flick of the neck but Chuck Norris only follows a team that can fix itself and make the color orange look sexy. That’s the Norris way.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 13, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
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The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 13, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Some people might find this funny because of all the talk about being grandfathered in to being a Browns fan. I was actually grandmothered into being a browns fan. I dont really know how it happened but i always remembered that my mamaw had a huge browns shirt that she wore as her nightgown so i think that always made me watch them. But i will admit that i was also a big Dophins fan since my uncle played at PITT with Marino and i got a autographed picture from Dan Marino from when i was born. But from being from Southeastern Ohio i feel that i am very lucky being a browns fan. Because at least our fans are LOYAL. I have many friends (somehow) that are Browns fans. But have many friends that are bandwagon bungal fans because they seemed to all root for the Cowboys until the bungals started having a couple good seasons. I also somehow became a browns when my mothers family is almost all Browns fans and my fathers family is all bungals fans but it makes for good banter during the season
by franklinbrownie41 on Jan 12, 2010 11:14 PM EST reply actions
Actually my father was from Detroit so he was a Lions fan…however he liked football alot, my uncle played pro ball for a little bit, and my grandmother was from near Green Bay (Iron Mountain, UP Michigan) so she was raised on Lombardi and the Packers. So basically, you’re around football alot you start getting interested in it.
I guess my love for the Browns started in the kindergarten or first grade…the Steelers were winning super bowls, and one of the girls in the class was always bragging about them and wearing her knit cap and scarf….everyone hated her so I guess you can say I became a Browns fan because i hated the Steelers so much.
Anyways, I remember them playing the 12 days of a Cleveland Browns Xmas on the 45 in school and it just stuck with me. I don’t remember too much of the Kardiac kids…the moment I really remember starting to follow them consistently was in 85 or so…when the Browns finally broke the Three River’s Jinx. I seem to recall riding in the back seat of my dad’s car listening to Gerald McNeill run back a punt or a kick…I think it was Casey Coleman announcing. After that we would go to a few games every so often down at Municipal…I loved the old stadium, the chilly air, and the smell of the hot dogs. I liked everything about it. I’ll always remember the 3WE Browns sign painted on the building wall with Kosar throwing a pass for some reason too. Downtown on game day when the browns were good and it was sunny crisp, and cold was great. Plus, the players all had identities…Clay, Eric Turner, Bernie, Minnifield, Dixon, Fike, Cody Rison, Slaughter, Metcalf, The Ice Cube, The Tongan Tank Tim Manoa, Mack, Byner, Eddie the Assassin, Baab, Big Daddy Hairston, Brennan, Ozzie, Bahr…They all seemed like good, hardworking, down to earth guys who you really could care about. They truly represented this city….
Plus, back then you really hated those other AFC Central teams…Glanville and the Oilers, Boomer, Wyche and the Bengals, the Steelers…HATED ’em. and LOVED hating them. I remember all the songs they used to play on WMMS,: Bernie Bernie, Sam Wyche got run over by a rain deer, Bad, bad Cleveland Browns, Raised on the Cleveland Browns….lol
Thus, as you can tell, I became a die hard fan., something which as we all know isn’t easy. I’m the ultimate ‘miserable son-of-a-bitch’ to watch the game with. I gripe and piss and moan the whole time…alot of the time when it gets close or is a big game I have to be standing half in/half out of the room. Gameday is definitely painful. Of course, I’ll throw out a ’That’s IT! I’m done with them for the year,’ several times a game…only to gradually creep back in.
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by johnnyphoenix on Jan 13, 2010 4:59 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
great story. i never lived near cleveland, i think all of the ancillary things you spoke of would have been great to be a part of (radio broadcasts and shows, newspaper coverage, signs on buildings); i remember going to cleveland for the first time in about 1993 and i was like a kid in a candy shop seeing all of the browns signs, the stadium, the merchandise. i remember seeing that bernie building painting and thought it was incredible. i only ever saw one browns game at muni, and they lost, but it was still one of my greatest sports memories just being there for a game.
I kinda feel like how most cleveland fans like you have been. I lived in cleveland for all my life but now go to school in buffalo. while it isn’t far from cleveland, I miss watching the games every weekend with my dad. I only really got to watch one game (before the holidays) which was the bill game…ugliest game I ever saw…thank god I didn’t by tickets…but anyways, I am only 3 hours away and feel separated. I am just out of range of hearing browns games on the radio. (the cleveland stations that broadcast it end their coverage about 20 miles south of me, but i can occasionally get really fuzzy versions).
I wish I could remember the muni that well…I do remember it some…
Well spoken, jp. What a list of old familiar names there. I was never a Cleveland native, but I did get to experience a few games at the old stadium. Good times!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 18, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Growing up in an Akron suburb, I always took being surrounded by fellow Browns fans for granted (this was before the yellow bellied NE Ohio Steeler fans were around in such hideous numbers as they are now). Then Modell happened and I moved to San Francisco where I tried-TRIED- to follow the Raiders but it didn’t take. In fact, it actually caused my love for the Brown and Orange to increase exponentially. Now, living in NYC, when I see somebody else with a Browns jersey/hat/etc, there is fraternal feeling that is shared with often just a nod of the head . . .
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Jan 13, 2010 11:53 AM EST reply actions
I feel your pain at the lack of a Browns “fraternity.” I live in a town that is an hour north of the Texas/Mexico border, I am literally surrounded by Cowboys fans, along with bandwagon Steelers fans. In my city, there are about 100,000 people, and (surprisingly) I have actually encountered about 3 or 4 Browns fans. They were all complete strangers to me, and I stopped each of them and had a brief conversation about the Browns. This would normally sound creepy, but I could tell that these people that I met were also happy to meet somebody else who rooted for the Browns.
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there are so many bandwagon steelers/pats fans everywhere. Not as many bandwagon pats fans near cleveland but there r some. I have no problem with my cousins from boston who root for the pats. I am indifferent to my uncle (technically by marraige) who grew up near pittsburgh and is a steelers fan (he wasn’t a bandwagon fan and he is one of the most respecful steelers fans I have witnessed…plus he is family)
I hate those damn yellow bellied NE steeler fans…
I just so agree….
I now live in buffalo temporarily and I already feel so much more browns pride then I did last year. I took it for granted. the one nice thing is I always had bed head and wore a hat. i had 2 with me, a browns one, and an indians one that wasn’t in that great of shape. i got soo much respect for wearing my browns hat everywhere…
I was raised in the Cleveland area till I was like 11, then was moved with my family to a farm in the middle of Illinois (ever heard of Matttoon?… try 16miles from it)..
I hated moving and being there and looked for anything to keep my love for Cleveland alive.
Everyone I knew there were front runners and would cheer for The Cowboys (late 70’s )
So I rooted for my Home town team.. The Browns.. I didn’t know much about football. My dad never really cared for it.. But after the Cardiac Kid season both my dad and I grew to love football.
I finally moved back in the late 80’s to see Kosar and the boys play some Awesome football. My first NFL game was Browns/Steelers and we beat them pretty good.. But was awestruck of how the fans were so loud and proud..
Then the move.. I cried my eyes out.. I have to admit. I got to goto the last game.. but couldnt handle staying for the whole thing.. it was too painful to watch..
I was one of the first to by a PSL and proud to say still have my seats.. just 2 up in top section..
But now I got a son.. he’s 3 and allready tells me the Steelers are yucky and gets excited when he sees football.. He mimicks me when he sees cribbs running by Shouting GO CRIBBS!!
That’s my story.. Stil proud!! Still a Brown!
From Britain...
Fisrt game I ever watched was the ‘84 superbowl- 49ers-Dolphins. Some mates had gotten into NFL and invited me to the late night party. I cheered the niners and loved the game, and decided I’d better sort myself out a team to follow for the whole season.
Even then I knew I’d go for as gritty running/ defensive team- probably from the cold north- as opposed to a flashy pass happy southern sunshine team. So I went for the Bears.
Much as I enjoyed the bear’s 1985 superbowl season there’s something very un-british about getting into something and immediately picking a winner, and my eye wandered- to the Browns who nearly beat Miami in the playoffs, had Mack & Byner both going over 1,000 yards, and a general atmosphere of krazy excitement- they were saying the kardiac kids were back.
In ‘96 I kind of realised my loyalties wouldn’t shift to the new browns (can’t say what would have happened if they had become the Baltimore Browns- from this side of the Atlantic is shouldn’t matter) and somehow didn’t get to hear about the new browns. I vaguely followed the Jaguars but drifted out of following NFL.
I only really discovered the browns were back in 2003 when in canada, watching the browns-steelers playoff game that we so nearly won- Holcombe at QB? I was on the edge of my seat for that one, bouncing all round the living room, and that was it. Hooked again!
So here I am. Best fans in the world!
by LondonBrown on Jan 14, 2010 3:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Interesting story; glad to have you. That Browns-Steelers playoff game was an absolute heartbreaker. And, yes, it was Holcomb at quaterback, who had one of the most prolific passing days in NFL playoff history in a loss. Too bad he was never that good again.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 15, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Well guys, I am a grandpa and great grandpa that has been a real brownsfan since early sixties. Still remember Jim Brown rambeling in for touchdowns. Sipe causing me mild heart attacks and Kosar side arming some balls to Newsome. Also was part of the original dog pond and friends with some of that eras players and coaches. I died when they took our team to Baltimore and came back to life when the new team took the field. Guys, there is nothing in this world better then a browns fan. I retired a few years ago and do rely on all you posters to keep me informed on here. I don’t post much but read almost all of the stuff posted about the Browns. Thanks to Chris, rufo, Roger, BK19, ah, heck, thanks to all of you for keeping me in the loop.
wbaron
by wbaron on Jan 14, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
wow this one almost made me cry too, I’m like you,I don’t say much but I read it all.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 15, 2010 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
I became a Browns fan in ‘81. I was 5. I’m from Indiana and the Colts were not there yet so my whole family rooted for the Bears. My parents(or Santa) were going to get us Bears coats and sock hats for Christmas. I didn’t like the bears at all because my older brother did, so I wanted to be different. We lived close enough to Ohio to pick up Browns games from Lima on our rabbit eared TV, and my favorite color was orange,so naturally I picked the Browns. From then on through the good(some) and the bad(really bad,even when they were not there) I’ve never jumped ship. My son is 4 and is starting to get as excited as I am to watch on Sundays. Hopefully his sons will follow suit.
Bye the way, I’ve been following DBN for a while now and I really appreciate the work Chris and everyone else puts into the site. I’m not much for posting, but I love to read all of the differing opinions(whether I agree or not) that people from all over the world have on our favorite team. Thanks for keeping me informed.
by cheeseburgler22 on Jan 14, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions
I guess it was ‘71 or ’72. Played football all the time with friends in the backyard but that is when I discovered the Browns. Loved Jerry Sherk & Walter Johnson. When I started playing guard on the school team, Gene Hickerson became my favorite. I think I really became hooked with Sipe and the way we would win(or lose) in the last minute(s). The game when Sipe looked at Logan and they both KNEW the play was changed from what was called in the huddle, TD, another wild win. When the Browns left, I quit watching pro football. I was ticked at the NFL for letting them be moved from a city that sold out every game. I was overjoyed when I heard they were coming back. Like most, I have been frustrated since there return, but they are MY TEAM. Living in Florida I have tried following the Bucs and Jags. Didn’t work. The only good thing about them is when they play the Browns I get to see my team.
Born in Ohio.
Though I cheered for the Raiders against the Browns one time when I was like 4 years old. I really wanted to throw the football around with my dad. He said after the game. I didn’t like that answer. So I asked him who he wanted to win the game. He said the Browns, of course. I said, fine. I want the other team. Who are they? He said the Raiders. I said, fine, I want the Raiders to win. Now let’s go outside and play catch!
I believe it was this game. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198712200rai.htm
My Raiders fan-hood was short-lived though. I remember throwing a fit during “the Fumble” a couple weeks later. I was inconsolable.
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That’s amusing. I remember when I was loosely affiliated with the Chiefs back around when I was 4, Nick Lowery missed a huge field goal against the Dolphins at expiration and the Chiefs lost. It was the first sports devastation that I can remember.
When I started following pro ball I loved watching the Chargers (in addition to the good ol’ brownies). I still love watching the Chargers. They’re my pick to win the superbowl and I root for them every chance I get (cept’ when they’re playing us, but that’s only once every four years baring playoffs).
by BrownDawg1409 on Jan 15, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a second generation Browns fan – in Kentucky no less. My early Browns memories are from the mid ‘80s when Mack and Byner would run the ball down other teams’ throats, when the ‘Bandaid Brothers’ (Johnson and Johnson) roamed the middle on defense, when Clay Matthews controlled the edges, and when Dixon and Minniefield dominated the secondary. Kosar was/is my favorite Browns player of all time. I’m still bitter about the Broncos from those days…
Because I am not from, and have never lived, in Ohio, I probably don’t share some of the deeply ingrained emotional attachment to Cleveland – as a city, as a region, and as a football franchise – as a lot of you guys. Nonetheless, I am a lifelong and loyal fan. I hate Pittsburgh as much as anyone.
And for the record, I am working on a third generation Browns fan, as this picture (taken before the Vikings game this season) will attest:

by bbstirrd on Jan 16, 2010 1:57 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
This is my older daughter when she was about 6-9 mos old, wearing my hat of coarse.

The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 16, 2010 4:23 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
She would also b4 3rd generation, possibly 4th, as I don’t know if “the old man”, as my dad calls him, is a Browns fan
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 16, 2010 4:25 AM EST up reply actions
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The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 16, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I was born in Detroit but grew up in Canton OH, and fortunately none of those michigan teams imprinted on me. My family has always been Cleveland Browns fans, and I was just getting old enough to understand really when the browns moved to Baltimore. I was eleven when the new browns came back and my Dad has had season tickets ever since 99. I saw the first hof game when they beat Dallas, and I was hooked. I can still remember the last thing the announcer said after that game, “The Browns are Back! and Packed with a win!” So we are all still waiting, but when it happens, its going to make all of this waiting even better.
Toronto Browns Fan
Before I was born, my father and a few of his buddies would take an annual road trip to Claveland for a game and a weekend of beer drinking. When my older brother and I were around 6, (about 1970) my father and three of the buddies decided to split season’s tickets. As a result, I got to spend 1-3 weekends a year at the Hollenden House where we’d meet the players in the lobby on Saturday night before heading out for dinner. Sundays at the games are a particularly vivid memory. As the years went on and the Browns got worse and worse (we’re talking early 70’s), our tickets got better and better.
Finally, we had 2nd row in the upper deck around the 40 yard line.
My father got fed up with the team and stopped buying the tickets after Forest Gregg’s last season. Been back many times since and although the Browns have caused a lot of pain, I am thankful for one small mercy: the first time my father and his buddies went to an NFL game, they tried to get tickets for the Lions. Back then the Bills were in the AFL, so Detroit was the closest NFL city. Luckily, the Lions were sold out, so the guys went to Cleveland instead. A trip they repeated the next year. This continued until the got the season’s tickets.
So as painful as it is being Brown, I could have ended up as a Lions fan.
Nebraska Browns Fan
I actually came upon a Cleveland Browns felt banner when I was 7 and didn’t know what it was, until…
It was 1999 and I was 8 years old. My dad was a Cowboys fan ever since he got into the NFL, however he already raised me to be a Chicago Cubs fan (I have pictures of me as a baby with Cubs pajamas, I had no choice in the matter) but he never really tried to make me a Cowboys fan. Well, my dad flips on ESPN and what do I see? The addition of the Cleveland Browns to the National Football League. Now you must understand, I was 8. I had no knowledge of that the past Cleveland Browns were the now Baltimore Ravens, and my father told me that I could actually be a fan of a team from the beginning. Never did I think about the banner I found a year earlier. I just put it on my bedroom door, and from then on I have been a Browns fan because my father tricked me. I watched all the games I could (being in Nebraska they weren’t on too often). I even remember yelling “Holcomb! Holcomb! Holcomb!” during the Steelers Browns playoff game (fuck the Steelers on an unrelated side note).
Now though, I go to college in Cleveland (CWRU Spartans all the way). Watch every Browns game, and go to ones when I don’t get shit on by academia.
Edmonton Browns Fan
I have no connection to the city of Cleveland whatsoever, but I challenge you to find a more devoted Browns fan. My story begins sometime in the early 80’s when I was very young and just starting to be interested in sports.
The Browns were playing on TV in the cavernous old Municipal stadium. I think it was the stadium itself that caught my eye at first. It was a unique stadium with the pillers coming down. And it was huge. Of course it was a sell out, so the atmosphere it that stadium seemed amazing on TV. I wish I could have gone to see a game in that stadium. To this day I still have not been to a Browns game. The new Cleveland Browns stadium will have to do.
Not only did I find the stadium to be unique, but the uniforms were unique. Specifically the logoless helmets. I remember thinking—this team doesn’t waste time making pretty designs on their helmets. This is a football team. This is a team that I could root for. I love the helmets.
Also on that day in the early 80’s, I remember watching a player by the name of Dino Hall. He didn’t have a long career, but he was the Josh Cribbs of his day. He was the smallest player on the field, but he was an exciting kick returner.
Its been great reading these stories…
by BROWNSLIFTLOMBARDI on Jan 19, 2010 11:50 PM EST reply actions
Damn, I wasn't going to GO there..
Well, my story is stranger than most. For one thing, I’m not from the US, never BEEN to the US and if you asked me about American Football about 10 years ago, I’d have told you it was a long, pointless game. Rugby with armour.
I’m originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland, although I currently live in London, where I moved after accepting a job offer. About seven years ago, back in Belfast, I was working security in a student bar and I was very, very bored. I was working the Sunday, which is traditionally a quiet time. The Monday and Thursday nights in this place were always very busy with oversized young people drinking far much more than they could handle, but the Sundays were quiet. It was around 7pm and I was walking around the bar area, which was practically deserted except for one guy who was sat down one end, watching the American Football on TV.
After a while, I’d done many, many laps of the bar with my walkie talkie and the boredom wasn’t gettting any easier. The place was still empty. I can’t quite remember how I got chatting to this guy, but I did. He was from the US and, yes, you’re absolutely right to think it, he was a Browns fan. The Browns game wasn’t on, but updates were coming through as we started to chat. And we ended up talking for a couple of hours, from topics as varied as suicide rates amongst students in Ivy league universities, through to the dire state of the Browns quarterbacks and the progression of Arsenal’s “invincibles.”
He told me he was from Pittsburgh, but supported the Browns and always had. I asked a LOT of questions about that. Well, after a long time talking, I had to get back to work watching the crowd as the bar filled up. The game ended and he left and I began to do a bit of background research into the Cleveland Browns in the coming months, coming to learn about this storied franchise and a lot more about the game.
I’ve been a fan ever since and will be until I die, all of which I owe to a chance meeting in a bar with an absolute stranger. I can’t even remember his name, but he was a real cool guy.
by Terrible Terry Tate on Jan 20, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
A good read, TTT. Thanks for sharing.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 21, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
Very cool story. Just goes to show you even Europeans can have good taste! LOL….
The All-America Football Conference was created in June of 1944 to compete against the NFL. Even though the league outdrew the NFL in attendance, the continuing dominance of the Cleveland Browns led to the league's downfall.
granddad lived in WV, close to Ohio, was a browns fan. passed it to my dad. passed it to me.
i’ve never even been to Ohio.
he was injured. injured bad.
What part? I used to lie in Hancock County, in the northern panhandle.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 24, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
*live, the V key on this laptop doesn’t work right.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 24, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Many of the LGT regs might have read my story ….
But I was born in Berea and lived in Cleveland (just next to Lakewood) until early 1978 when I was 10, moving to Los Angeles). As an under 10 youth, I was a diehard Tribe, Browns and Buckeye fan. I also rooted for the Cavs, but as a youngun, was more focused on the Tribe and Browns.
Although my dad was a Cleveland fan, my uncle was more of a diehard, I remember talking with him every time we got together on how the Tribe was doing that summer (sucky as usual), and how the Browns and Buckeyes were doing in the fall.
i remember the heartbreak of Red Right 88 vividly. I was shocked at the pick. And the losses to Denver were heartbreaking as well. I was in college at that time. Although the third loss to Denver, I don’t remember well at all (12 pack in by halftime).
While the loss of the Browns in the late 90s hurt terribly, I can imagine how much worse it would have been if I was younger. I actually rooted for the Buccaneers for the 3 years the Browns were gone, they are my pseudo 2nd team now.
I Thought I Had A Bad Year
As I explained in my post, the Bills are my second season.
Looks like you’ve got it even worse than I do.
My father is a lifelong Giants fan, and he’s from New York, my older brother is a lifelong Steelers fan, so NATURALLY I became a Browns Fan. I was in 3rd grade, and I finally discovered football. I got to hit something and my dad would cheer me on for doing it. I always loved that part of the game! This was right about the birth time of the Kardiac Kids, and I loved watching the games. My dad begrudgingly agreed the Browns were worthy (They were bruisers) and encouraged the rivalry between my brother and I.
Note – Even my brother says the Super Bowl with the Seahwaks and Steelers was not worthy of the name. He even agrees the refs stole the game away from the Seahawks, and thats huge coming from that turd. You people do not know how hard it is to be a loud, proud, Browns fan in North Texas. I will continue the fight.
BTW, my 2nd favorite team is, and will always be the Houston Oilers, Stabler, Campbell, Whiteshoes Johnson, what I had to have something from Texas, and it couldn’t be those fags in Dallas.
The All-America Football Conference was created in June of 1944 to compete against the NFL. Even though the league outdrew the NFL in attendance, the continuing dominance of the Cleveland Browns led to the league's downfall.

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