2010 Pro Bowl
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 24, 2010 11:48 PM EST
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PrintThe NFL has made this year's Pro Bowl a joke.
Why has it been made a joke? For many a reason but mainly for publicity reasons. The Pro Bowl was pulled from CBS this year due to the fact that the NFL didn't want them to move the game for the Grammys. If CBS would've done so, the Pro Bowl would've had to fight for viewers from the Daytona 500, NBA All - Star game and Winter Olympics. Now, it has to fight with the Grammys ironically on January 31st. The game was moved to the week before the Super Bowl to allow the American public to stop salivating for two weeks without football. Sadly though, the game was moved to the same place that the Super Bowl will be played instead of playing it at Aloha Stadium, which is the stadium's only NFL use.
There are many potential problems moving it to where they did. One. The incentive to get a free trip to Hawaii for the players is gone. Many of these players already get a free trip to Miami in the regular season. No fun. Two. Without those couple weeks after the Super Bowl which allow players to heal from minor wounds and bruises, players have no time to recover anymore and have to drop out of play like Brian Cushing. Three. Super Bowl bound players have to be pulled from play. Now, you'd assume that the two Super Bowl teams would have quite a Pro Bowlers right? Well. You'd be correct. Between Indianapolis and New Orleans, 12 players will be pulled from the Pro Bowl roster. 12! That's not much of a "Pro Bowl" anymore now is it?
For a clincher, I'd just like to give you the QB starters for the AFC. The three originals: Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, Tom Brady. The new QB starters for the AFC: Matt Schaub, Vince Young, David Garrard. David Garrard!
So, I personally think that a pretty creative and fun game made up of the best of the best has been turned into an idiot game made up of the "better than average players" due to the NFL being stupid.
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here are some other guys who will make it besides garrard.
Quinton Mikell, David Deihl, Chad Clifton. Chris Snee, Davin Joseph, AJ Hawk, Zach Miller (great another raider) or Mercedes Lewis, found out Matt Birk will play over Mack, Vincent Jackson, Aaron Schobel, either Antwan Odom greg ellis or Randy Starks.
Some good players deserving of a PB experience and some that really aren’t. the one good thing is that minnesota isn’t in b/c they had the most pro bowlers…with them we would see the likes of Johnny Knox, Michael Robinson, Sheldon Brown, Broderick Bunkley, Chad Clifton, Chris Snee, Steve Smith (NYG), Eli, and Frank Gore…not nearly as good of replacements…
Chad Clifton is garbage. How is he there?
by TheRealSlimShady on Jan 25, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Half the names on that list are garbage.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 26, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
As someone who used to live in Hawaii, I can tell you the game will be missed dearly in the islands. It is the only time many people there can watch NFL action in person (although they shouldn’t get to complain because they live in Hawaii). People in Hawaii actually got psyched for the the Pro Bowl as an event.
I have never been to Miami, but can’t imagine it lives up to the islands as a vacation spot.
Miami is a nice Vacation spot but nothing beats Hawaii. there is a good point that guys to to miami all the time but they don’t always get the chance to go to hawaii. taking the game out of hawaii is like taking the rose bowl and moving it to the meadowlands, or san francisco…you just lose the whole experience.
Both due to injury.
The original few week break would’ve probably allowed them to play.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 25, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
hasn’t brady already not been playing for about 2 weeks?
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by notthatnoise on Jan 25, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt that. Guys drop out due to “injury” because they don’t want to play. I really don’t think waiting two more weeks would have changed anything.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 25, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
While I think the thought of playing the Pro Bowl before the Super Bowl will give it more of an “important” feel (albeit a very minor feel), the points you bring up SpecialBrownie kind of outweight that one benefit.
The AFC Pro Bowl quarterback list is a joke. How far were we from seeing Derek Anderson make it again?
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I voted no
Are we talking about it? Will you watch it to check it out?
+1 for reinventing the pro bowl (not quite there yet, but not a joke either)
Are we talking about it? Only questioning if it is a complete or partial disaster.
Will you watch? Absolutely not.
I’d rather watch tennis, soccer, college basketball, mma, a senior bowl, just about anything else this weekend.
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I watched Gilmore Girls reruns on the soap opera channel during last years pro bowl.
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by golanbatrac on Jan 27, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Not a bit of sarcasm. I missed it when it was first on and got into watching it last off-season. Great show.
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Indeed.
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by golanbatrac on Jan 27, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
And to think that the vegetarianism thread here made some recoil in terror.
I’ll admit to being amused by the show as well, although I always joke that there’s some chemical contamination in the water supply of Stars Hollow that makes very character talk the same….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 28, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather kill myself than watch Tennis.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 27, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t watch any form of tennis even it was being played in my front yard.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 27, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Those epic grand slam matches are really entertaining.
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I agree. The Federer-Nadal and Federer-Roddick finals in the past two Wimbeldons have been very exciting.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 28, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I used to get in to watching the MLB All Star game, but the Pro Bowl? I’ve watched it once. It’s nice to know that a player from your team was considered good enough to be chosen for it, but that’s as far as my interest goes. I’m not sure there is much they could do to make it less interesting for me.
MLB All Star game is a lot of fun.
NBA All Star game is amazingly entertaining.
The Pro Bowl stinks. Half-ass football is atrocious to watch. And now it is made up of marginally good players. No thank you.
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NBA All Star game is amazingly entertaining.
I disagree, and that’s coming from a big basketball fan (not as much as football, but I still love watching basketball at all levels.)
I actually think the NBA All-Star rosters are often a joke too (Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnet, Tim Duncan). Sure, those are big names, but there are players having much better years at their positions. It’s not as bad as this years Pro Bowl.
The actual play, in my opinion, seems uninspired during a lot of the time, and really means nothing, and the players know that. I think an All-NBA game featuring the All-NBA rosters at the end of the season would be far more entertaining, if there was some kind of incentive for the players to try. Which seems to be a problem in both the NFL and NBA.
Honestly, for the NFL, I think if you cannot market the game because no one cares (including both the fans and players), then just scrap it.
Tim Duncan?? How is that a joke? He most certainly deserves to be an All-Star this season, so please don’t lump him in with Garnett and Iverson. Duncan is third in the NBA in PER this season behind only LeBron and Wade.
Any time you have fans voting for the All-Star starters there will always be undeserving starters. The same thing happens in baseball. But the NBA weekend, with the 3-point contest, dunk contest, rookie-sophomore game, and all-star game is definitely the best of any sport.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 27, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
the nba all-star game is awful. I love the 3-point contest, dunk contest, and even the rookie-sophomore game, but the actual all-star game is like watching the globetrotters to me.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 27, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
How is the rookie-soph game any better than the All-Star game? They’re both played with very little defense (for the first 3 quarters, at least), but the All-Star game at least has better players who can make more shots. The game gets really good if it’s close at the end because you have guys like LBJ and Wade going right at Kobe and ‘Melo because they really do want to win when they’re playing against the best.
I can understand you not liking it because it’s too much show and not real basketball, but I don’t understand why you wouldn’t say the same thing about the rookie-soph game.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 27, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
i like the players better. I would rather watch people who are genuinely excited to be there. For me the soph-rookie game is sort of like watching minor league baseball. sure they aren’t as good, but for some reason i can’t explain, i actually like that. Its just a weird personal preference.
That said, I did contemplate lumping the soph-rook game in with the real game, its not that much better.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 27, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Tim Duncan?? How is that a joke? He most certainly deserves to be an All-Star this season
Ok, I agree. I should have been more specific, that fact the he is listed as a forward rather than the center is the joke. Allowing people like Amare Stoudemire to take spots that could go to more deserving players such as Dirk or Zach Randolph.
I also agree about the voting fans. The majority of them are either stupid or don’t care.
Although, personally I don’t think the All-Star weekend is all that great. Is it better than the other sports? Perhaps. But that’s not exactly stellar competition.
I think they should do like the NHL and divide the rosters, not according to conference, but according to some arbitrary designation: north versus south, east versus west, white versus black, or draw up teams based on wonderlic scores.
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by golanbatrac on Jan 27, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Or some genetic disadvantages, due to lack of northwestern African genes.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
by Villeslgr on Jan 27, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i figured it was a joke…i also figured you would be able to tell my sarcasm…i was using sarcasm (though a little dry).
I’m sorry, but with you it’s really hard to tell what is sarcasm and what is not.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 28, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
it is the internet after all, where all we have to go on is typed words.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 28, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
If the NBA wanted to add some intrigue to their All-Star game it should be US vs. The World.
World:
PG- Nash, Parker, Jose Calderon
SG- Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Raja Bell
SF- Andrea Bargnani, Andrei Kirilenko, Hedo
PF- Dirk, Al Horford, Gasol, Boozer
C- Duncan, Yao, Big Z, Nene
US:
PG- CP3, Deron Williams, JKidd
SG- Kobe, Monta Ellis, Pierce, Wade
SF- LeBron, Durant, Melo,
PF- KG, Randolph, Lee, Bosh
C- Howard, Amare, Shaq
Yeah the US backcourt is insane, but holy smokes the World will kill us up front with that size.
I would watch.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 27, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I put him on the world team because he was born outside the US.
I know he is US but the world team needed the talent more.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure the U.S. Virgin Islands are inside the U.S.
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Wow I had a major brain fart.
For some reason I thought he was Dominican. My bad.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
someone born there cannot run for president though I am pretty sure. it is owned by the US and is under US jurisdiction but technically is not the united states…
Wow, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
You do not have to born anywhere specifically to run for President (i.e., John McCain born in Panama). Also, anyone born in the U.S. Virgin Islands is a natural-born US Citizen, and therefore, meet the citizenship requirement for President and Vice President.
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by Ryan Kelsey on Jan 28, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know the exact rules of the US virgin Islands but I assumed they were the same as puerto rico. they might not be though. no one born in puerto rico though can run for president. I have checked it out. maybe the US virgin Is are different but I thought they weren’t
Once again, you are wrong. The Constitution requires that the President and Vice President be “natural-born citizens”. This is not defined in the Constitution, but Courts and scholars have interpreted it to mean anyone who was a citizen from birth. This includes anyone born in the United States or its territories. Someone born in Puerto Rico is a natural born citizen and may run for President.
You have not checked it out. In fact, you haven’t even done an effective google search on the subject. Please do not attempt to come from a place of authority when you have no idea what you are talking about.
Now, there is also a requirement that a Presidential candidate must have 14 consecutive years of residence in the United States. It has been disputed whether living in territories such as the U.S. Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico would satisfy this requirement. But there are no Court opinions deciding this issue.
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by Ryan Kelsey on Jan 29, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Children born overseas of citizens are included as well i think.
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I am pretty sure that is not the case. they have to be born in america (or I guess i learned in the virgin islands and in puerto rico)
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth
© a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
well. I am wrong again. I do not know as much about this subject as I thought. Thank you for informing me.
I actually wasn’t sure when i posted the first comment, then i found the link above. I didn’t realize that McCain had to get a court opinion to run in ’08.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I didn’t even know that.
I also was surprised about the whole thing if your parent was a citizen and you were born outside the US. i guess that whole birth certificate thing with obama held no water anyways.
I liked when hockey did this
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by notthatnoise on Jan 27, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Plus I should add in the fact that the NBA should either make the dunk contest on rims that could go higher or get rid of it for a H-O-R-S-E competition.
Imagine LeBron nailing an underhanded half courter for an E on Kobe. I would pay actual money to go see that.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
No, they have a skills challenge and a shooting challenge.
The shooting challenge is one NBA, WNBA and former player for a city play on a team together. It is weak.
What I am talking about is a old school HORSE game. Call banks, swish, etc.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure they did have HORSE competition. Kevin Durant won this beautiful trophy:
Only the spelled out GIECO, the sponsor of the “Outdoor Horse Competition.”
In the H-O-R-S-E competition, Kevin Durant capped his All-Star weekend with an amazing comeback to beat O.J. Mayo and Joe Johnson.
Source. Pretty decent cast if ask me.
Wow.
Apologies Rufio, I had no idea.
I am a complete dumbass when it comes to Basketball it seems.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
I looked it up and they did it in the ‘77-’78 season then stopped for 30 years. they reinstated it this previous 2009 NBA all star game. so HORSE in the all star game is extremely new. B19K you are not that much of a dumbass.
All Star games are pointless, but can be entertaining viewing for some people who just want to watch some of the better athletes at what they do on the field at the same time. An all star game is never worth getting worked up about, unless you have a genius in charge of your league who decides that home field advantage in the finals should be determined based on the victor of the ASG.
since it’s now before the super bowl, maybe the conference that loses the pro bowl should have to have their conference representative in the super bowl play their backup QB for the entire first quarter. or the SB rep of the conference that wins the super bowl is allowed 5 downs. here’s to you, bud selig!
Make it a north and South game. If the South wins, they hold next years’ super bowl in New Orleans or Miami or Arizona. If the North wins, they hold the super bowl in Green Bay or Chicago or New England.
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regardless of the fact that it will never happen, i like that idea.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 27, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
The Pro Bowl is good for one thing: watching the best NFC defensive linemen try and fail to get past Joe Thomas. It always amuses me.
Joe Thomas was credited with a sack once. Turns out Derek Anderson ran towards his defender and fell over.
Joe Thomas allowed a sack once. The world promply ceased to exist.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 28, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Thomas once allowed a sack just to see how it felt.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the only injury joe thomas ever suffered was when he tried to block himself in mirror.
by Dawg Nuts on Jan 28, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
In the early 1980s, the US accidentally launched a missile at Cuba. Knowing it would cause WWIII, the government panicked. Joe Thomas, sensing an unwanted advance in the summer of 2008, traveled back in time. He pass blocked the missile into space, and the rest is history.
by rufio on Jan 28, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Joe Thomas’s tears cure cancer. Too bad the only people crying are the defensive ends that he pancakes into the ground.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 28, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Joe Thomas’ version of the VH1 show “Where Are They Now?” lasted only 10 seconds and consisted of white letters on a black screen reading
“RIGHT BEHIND YOU.”
by rufio on Jan 28, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Newton’s Third Law is wrong: Although it states that for each action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, there is no force equal in reaction to a Joe Thomas block.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 28, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The only reason Joe Thomas doesn’t play every line position himself is that he wants to vicariously feel what it’s like to get beat.
Joe Thomas would be a masochist but Joe Thomas doesn’t feel pain or know humiliation.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
by Villeslgr on Jan 28, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was actually at that game when he was credited. It was his rookie season and we were playing the dolphins. DA scrambles to the sideline and his tackled in the backfield by jason taylor. JT was blocking taylor but could not block anymore when DA ran out of the pocket. he was credited for giving up a sack.
please post that site, so that we may judge its credibility, for i find it difficult to believe this is true.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 28, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
2007: 4.25
2008: 4.50
2009: 6.00
Career: 14.75
Should this change the way people think about Joe Thomas whatsoever? Not at all.
(Just for comparison, Jason Peters allowed 11.50 in 13 starts, and Ryan Clady allowed 0.05 in 16 starts, both in 2008.)
Player statistics shown on YesNetwork were collected by STATS LLC. It is a very legitimate company providing stats for over 85 sports leagues world wide, and are the official stats provider for leagues such as the NBA.
Now, just because “sacks allowed by individual” isn’t a statistic officially recognized by the NFL, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. But again, the stat still doesn’t take anything away from Joe Thomas.
Even the starting LT for the NFC doesn’t care about the Pro Bowl.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 31, 2010 3:55 AM EST reply actions
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