Around the Pound (1/28): CSU's Proposal for Football, More Additions from Green Bay
This weekend, Joe Thomas and Joshua Cribbs will be on hand at the Pro Bowl to take part in the event's annual festivities. Many people consider the Pro Bowl to be a joke; as evidenced by the FanPost about it earlier in the week. Over at SBNation.com, there is a special feature on ways the Pro Bowl could possibly be improved.

Another Team to Cheer For?
Could there be a time in the near future that there is another Cleveland football team to cheer for?
Cleveland State wants to know if students would pay higher fees to support a football program.
So, CSU's Student Government Association will conduct a referendum vote April 12-14, asking students whether they would be willing to pay about $4 per credit hour more in general fees. Students currently pay $40 per credit hour -- about 40 percent of which goes toward athletics.
I have mixed feelings, mainly because it would seem difficult for CSU to field a very good team versus the expenses required to start it up at this point; although a good portion of the fees would be financed by student fees. If the Vikings started a football program, they would be "in the 10-team Pioneer Football League, competing against such schools as Butler, Dayton and Drake."
In a best-case scenario, the earliest that CSU could field a team would probably be in 2012, according to President Ronald Berkman.
Holmgren Lures Away More People
Team president Mike Holmgren brought another one of his former staff members to Cleveland yesterday in Mark Schiefelbein, who will serve as the Vice President of Football Operations. Schiefelbein spent 18 years with the Packers; it seems unprecedented that people with such tenure are just flocking to the Browns.
Another Pro Bowler for the Browns
Who could it possibly be!?! Chomps! That's right, if for whatever reason you're in Miami and want to see the Browns' mascot down there, here is where he will be:
Saturday, January 30
8 a.m. – 11 a.m. – Pro Bowl Open Practice at Lockhart Stadium in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.
11 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. – US vs. International Pop Warner Game at Lockhart Stadium (open to the public)Sunday, January 31
4 p.m. – 4:30 p.m. – Tailgate Gate G Parking Lot at Dolphin Stadium
7:30 p.m. – 2010 Pro Bowl at Dolphin Stadium
Off-Beat Notes
- So, NBC has just picked up one of Conan O'Brien's pilots, "completely unrelated to Conan's departure." Sure it is. I doubt we ever see NBC actually air Conan's pilot about a Supreme Court Justice.
- No need to get into the actual political talk of the State of the Nation -- all I need to say is that I got another good laugh at the absurdity of the annual "stand and clap after every sentence" or "pan to the opposing party still sitting with disgusted looks on their faces" or "see Joe Biden shake his head after every word Obama utters."
- Would you buy an iPad? I'd rather just do with a well-functioning laptop.
- 5 days and counting until LOST. This is bigger than the Super Bowl, folks. ;)
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Indeed it does.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 28, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its basically a giant ipod touch. no multitasking, no usb output, no camera, no flash, and you have to pay for data transfer. You’d be much better off buying a netbook for half the price. its cheaper, runs third party programs, does everything an ipad does, and much more.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 28, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree…plus I just remembered that I read that not only do you have to still plug it into a computer, but the computer has to run Mac OSX…so you can only use it on a mac CPU.
by bross09 on Jan 28, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge Apple-hater. But this iPad thing sounds really useless, even for them.
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by Ryan Kelsey on Jan 28, 2010 7:26 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
me too
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Jan 28, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec for every word of this statement. Green it folks
by Roger Dorn on Jan 28, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 28, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
awesome
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
by Villeslgr on Jan 28, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mac computers and the iPod… couldn’t care less about the iPhone.
by emily522 on Jan 29, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
iPad sounds like a trademark dispute.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
by Villeslgr on Jan 29, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fine. How bout the Tampod?
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 29, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not bad.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
by Villeslgr on Jan 30, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure how you can hate Apple. Without them, Microsoft would have even more control of the technology market.
by gahnki on Jan 30, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m cool with that. ’Soft rocks.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 30, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just find iPods, and more specifically, iTunes terrible. The software is clunky and confusing. I’m not a big technology snob, but the only thing Apple does especially well is market and package their stuff.
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by Ryan Kelsey on Jan 30, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the iPod. But iTunes is absolutely bloody horrible. I wonder if I should switch to Songbird.
Probably the only Cleveland Browns fan in all of Sydney, NSW.
by skipkirk on Jan 30, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like IPod and ITunes. Everything else Mac is terrible.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 30, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the iPod. iTunes is terribly overpriced, though. I want to get a Mac laptop for college. They get less viruses and last longer.
by emily522 on Jan 30, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How are you paying for iTunes? Unless you are talking about buying songs.
I got a PC laptop for college, it lasted until midway through my sophomore year. I got a Mac after that, and I am in my 2nd year of grad school (and I stayed a 5th in undergrad) and it is just breaking down now. Anecdotal evidence, but still.
by rufio on Jan 31, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PCs are fine if you take care of them and pay for top of the line when you get it. A cheap PC won’t last long.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 31, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some use laptops as desktops though (like me). If used like that their lifespans are horribly short.
Probably the only Cleveland Browns fan in all of Sydney, NSW.
by skipkirk on Jan 31, 2010 6:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The best combo is to install Windows onto a Mac.
It’ll last forever and you’ll never receive a virus.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 31, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actaully, if you are running Windows on a Mac you can still get a virus. The virus can infect the Windows files, including any files such as MS Office files, including files shared between Mac and Windows versions of Office, and the files in the Windows OS. But so far there hasn’t been any widespread attacks on OS X, so a virus that attacks the Windows side of your Mac should affect the OS X side beyond corrupting those shared Office files.
That said, Macs do seem to last a lot longer. We retired my daughter’s old CRT iMac finally after 8 years. It was still running fine, but was built in the days when having just an internal CD ROM was still considered pretty cool.
by JustBob on Jan 31, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I read an article on Yahoo a month or two ago and it said that Dells and HPs have the highest burnout rate after 3 years. Macs and Toshiba have the lowest after 3 years.
by emily522 on Jan 31, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dells are the worst PC to get.
Yay! It’s in Pink! …they also suck.
HPs are actually good.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 31, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I took care of it. It wasn’t quite top of the line, though.
by rufio on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No I was talking about buying songs, not paying for iTunes itself.
by emily522 on Jan 31, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pfft. Buying songs.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 31, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eBay.
Probably the only Cleveland Browns fan in all of Sydney, NSW.
by skipkirk on Jan 31, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Buting songs? I still haven’t imported all of my CDs, let alone the task of digitizing LPs. Buy?
by JustBob on Feb 2, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the ipod itself is terribly overppriced. you can get the same functionality out of other mp3 players. The difference is many people prefer to buy all of their music through itunes, so people buy itunes.
I don’t necessarily dislike apple products, i just don’t think they’re any better than the competition but they cost a whole lot more. seriously, an ipad costs twice as much as a netbook, which does more. an iphone is the same as a blackberry, except more expensive and with an outrageous data plan ($100!), as well as only working with at&t. The only thing apple does better than the competition is marketing.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 31, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on the iPad. It seems to be a very expensive toy. Ditto on the iPhone, but I’m a pay-as-you-go cell phone user, so I what do I know?
When it comes to the computers I have to disagree. Before I bought my iMac (oh, so long ago) I looked at what it would take to get a similarly equipped – hardware and software – Windows machine. Ultimately I found that I kept coming up around the same price point, +/- about $100 depending on the quality of the components I chose to use. The difference is that my old iMac is not only still a viable machine, it’s still a good machine. I expect to keep using it for some time beyond the point when Apple (and other developers) stops supporting the PowerPC chips and only write code for the Intel chips.
However, I will give the Windows machines the edge when it comes to games. Windows games start selling for cheap about a year after they come out. Games for the Mac never seem to drop in price, and that does stink.
by JustBob on Feb 2, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t say I am an avid PC gamer, but Windows machines definitely have the edge in that area.
by rufio on Feb 2, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CSU doesn’t have a football team?? Wow! I never knew that.
If I was enrolled there, I wouldn’t mind giving a lil’ extra to help bring the best sport in the world to the school. The city would probably help with a new stadium too. Which would bring in more applicants. I hope it works out for them.
GO CHOMPY!
Holmgren’s picks.
I have nothing bad to say about them. He’s doing work and I like it.
ROFL at the LOST nerds.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 28, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Flag for laughing at Lost fans and using a lame acronym.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 28, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be mad
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 28, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You watch “Lost”. rofl
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 28, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, the IPad thing may be useless now, but it will evolve in to a keyboardless laptop.
Either way, I don’t f’ing care.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 28, 2010 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it may evolve, but right now it is an expensive piece of junk. the MacBook air is more worth the money.
by bross09 on Jan 28, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, just get a $250 netbook, it does every thing an ipad might eventually do
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 31, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a $300 Netbook. It’s freaking amazing.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 31, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree…
It does so many things and ipad doesn’t do.
I was stating the air as an example of another overpriced, semiuseless apple product.
by bross09 on Feb 4, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So would the CSU football team play at Browns Stadium? Is there another football field near downtown Cleveland they could use?
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 28, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe they could play at case’s stadium? its not that far away.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 28, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know Case had a football team.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 28, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they actually beat Ohio State in like 1909 or something.
The Case Ultimate team gets to practice on their football field, if that tells you anything about Case’s football team.
by rufio on Jan 29, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa here! case’s football team went undefeated this year for the third year in a row, and lost to mount union in the playoffs i think. the reason ultimate can use the field is because its got fake grass, so it can’t get torn up.
they did also beat OSU back in the day, the last ohio school to accomplish that feat.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jan 31, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem. MUC =]
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 31, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the last Ohio college to beat OSU is Oberlin in 1921.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 31, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If they are going to be Pioneer league team, they won’t need Browns Stadium.
CWRU would have a bigger program.
The Pioneer League is 1-AA, non scholarship. Dayton plays in the decent sized Welcome Stadium owned by the Dayton City Public Schools. It is also used for high school games and playoff games.
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by Ryan Kelsey on Jan 28, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew they wouldn’t need that big of a stadium but I’m not really aware of other football stadiums near downtown Cleveland. Where does Ignatius play their home games? I assume that field would probably be big enough, because they probably get more fans than CSU ever would.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 28, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I was in high school there, half our games were at Lakewood high school and the other half were in Parma, I forget the name of the stadium but it was pretty big. Not sure if this is still the case.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 29, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Parma has a pretty big stadium because they have high school playoff games there. But that seems rather far away from CSU to play games there.
Do any Cleveland public schools have nice, big stadiums? What about Glenville?
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 29, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There has got to be something on the east side that is closer than the Parma stadium. BW’s would totally work, but is definitely too far away.
by rufio on Jan 29, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know about Glenville, but I am guessing they wouldn’t ever go there for safety purposes.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 29, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland public schools can’t even afford nice schools, let alone nice football stadiums.
by gahnki on Jan 30, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Recced because I went to Mooney, that school was a dump, and they never cleaned the cafeteria.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 31, 2010 3:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Byers. I think most of their games are played there now, save for the Holy War.
As mentioned below, Krenzler makes sense. However, I don’t think renovations for 10,000 seats would be necessary, and building a football stadium would be asinine.
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by rolub on Jan 29, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Byers, that is it. Usually the big games were at Byers except for the Ed’s game. I remember playing Massilon every year there and McKinley a few times as well.
by Roger Dorn on Jan 29, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Iggy plays at Iggy on Lorain Ave.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 29, 2010 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
CSU would probably renovate Krenzler Field or just build a new small-scale (10,000 seats?) stadium near campus.
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by theW0LF on Jan 29, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If they’re just trying to gather enough money to field a team then I doubt they’d have the funds to build a brand new stadium.
by Buckeye Brad on Jan 29, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JCU just renovated their field; That’s about a 15-minute drive from CSU, so it’s not exactly much closer to CSU.
Krenzler makes the most sense. Minor renovations could be made to accommodate football games.
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by rolub on Jan 29, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where does Ignatius play their home games?
Berea?
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 4:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
BTW csu…no thanks. My stepson plays ball at Dayton though, they’re non-scholarship but they still draw big crowds at Welcome. I do NOT think CSU would do the same. They’d be doormats for years and years to come.
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 4:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense, they just need someone to run a ridiculous spread offense. They could compete in a small conference.
by rufio on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
iPad? No thanks, at least not until there is multitasking and better apps. I would rather use my Hackintosh netbook which is a real computer that runs OSX rather than carry a giant iPhone around.
CSU Vikings football? I’m all for it! There can never be enough football in Cleveland!
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