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Jacksonville Jaguars vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread

Jacksonville Jaguars at Cleveland Browns, Jan 3, 2010 1:00 PM EST


The Browns have won three straight games. While the Jaguars' playoff hopes are slim, they still have some life nonetheless. Can they recover from their three game losing streak to keep their miracle hopes alive?

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS (7-8) WEEK 17 CLEVELAND BROWNS (4-11)
VS.
Date: January 3, 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH
Time: 1:00 p.m. ET
Stadium: Browns Stadium
TV: CBS
Favorite: Browns by 1
Radio: WTAM, 1100 AM Over/Under: 36
SBN Coverage: Big Cat Country Announcers
Gus Johnson & Steve Tasker


Position-by-Position Breakdown

Pos Adv  Reason
QB - The Jaguars have been known as a running football team for the past several years, but sooner or later they are going to need an upgrade at the quarterback position to put games away. Garrard is a threat to run, and if the Browns overpursue trying to sack him, he will try to take advantage of that with his feet.
RB - This is a really tough ranking to make. Obviously Maurice Jones-Drew has proven himself as one of the league's best for several years now. Jerome Harrison has only had a string of two great games, but I'm evaluating the position this week based on the impact they'll have on each team's offense. In the snow/wind, both teams will be run-heavy and effective.
WR - The Jaguars are not strong at the receiver position, but the Browns are still amongst the bottom in the league in lack of consistent threats. WR Torry Holt and TE Marcedes Lewis, the team's second- and third-receivers, are out with injuries after playing every other game. All they have is Mike Sims-Walker, who has struggled as of late. Normally, the Jaguars have the edge. This week, it's even.
OL - Jerome Harrison has given the offensive line and Lawrence Vickers the credit they deserve. The blocking they have had, especially considering the lack of threat that Derek Anderson provides, has made their blocking even more so impressive. The Jaguars struggle getting to the quarterback, so DA should be well protected in the pocket when he does pass.
DL - The Jaguars are ranked fairly well at stopping the run, and a reason for that is the big bulk up front in John Henderson (6'7", 335 pounds). Will we be seeing a guy like Corey Williams playing his final game as a member of the Browns?
LB - Matt Roth and David Bowens have combined for the clutch playmaking ability the Browns have needed. David Veikune was placed on injured reserve though, so it's confirmed that we'll have learned nothing about his abilities this season.
DB - As Ryan Kelsey pointed out this week, the Jaguars are ranked dead last in the league at defending the pass. How is that possible? Part of it has to do with the fact that Rashean Mathis being hurt throughout the season; he is OUT this week as well.
ST - Josh Scobee has struggled at kicks this season, only making 57.5% of his kicks. In the snow, I'd bank on Jacksonville going for it on fourth downs when in range for 40+ yarders. Jacksonville has yet to have a return go for a touchdown this season. Cribbs deserves to receive a new contract after the game.


Four games in a row seems like an unfathomable concept after the way this team started the season (1-11). The weather conditions today are going to be blizzard-like, and I am going to absolutely love that as a fan. The wind is going to be gusting like crazy, and by the second half, there could be white-out conditions. It should be a run-heavy game, but both teams will take their shots down the field because it's also impossible to ignore both teams' defensive struggles in the secondary.

FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 17, Jacksonville Jaguars 14.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 12-3
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 169-71

This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 16 as they get set to do battle with the Oakland Raiders. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this thread. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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Have a good (freeezy) games Browns fans

I hope it will be another memorable Browns-Jags game
Let’s have a good game; and the better team; no matter which win in the end.

)Of course I hope the tradtion will continue-The Jaguars never lost in Cleveland yet)

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Feeling good. Feeling the flow. Doing the bull dance.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 3, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

GAMEDAY INACTIVES

Browns declared TE Greg Estandia, WR Brian Robiskie, CB Coye Francies, CB Gerard Lawson, OT John St. Clair, DE Kenyon Coleman, OLB Titus Brown, and DE Titus Adams inactive for Week 17.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Why can’t we play Francies over Ramzee Robinson?

by TheRealSlimShady on Jan 3, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Francies sucks

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to make a joke about Veikune being active and someone taking a picture just so we can all be assured that he is still alive.

Then I found this article on-line.

Has there ever been a 2nd round LB to notch 0 tackles in his rookie season? Ugh.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Still too early to call him a bust.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think we can call the WR’s busts yet, but I think Veikune is.

A LB, position change or not, has no excuse for being invisible for an entire season.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 3, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This. And if there’s a coaching change there’s a very good chance he won’t even make the team next year, eliminating the small chance he has not to be a bust (which is why blaming “cuts” that happen by different regimes, a la Bell/Rucker, is flawed).

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nearly a zero percent chance of cutting a second rounder in year two. And even if he were cut, at least we didn’t gut the 2010 draft to get him (like Phil gutted the 2009 draft to get Bell and Rucker).

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Calling the loss of a 3rd “gutting” is laughable. You’re embarrassing yourself.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

We gave up the 69th pick in 2009 for the 111th pick in 2008, and took a player who barely saw the field before being cut. Massive Fail, Phil.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a small fraction as detrimental as wiffing on a Second Round pick. We all know you love Mangini and hate Savage, so why repeat nonsense to me over and over? We’ve been through your idiocy before. I responded to Bernie. I made a valid prediction about the current team and issues going forward. You bring up 4th rounders from 3 years ago. Get a life.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So it seems I brought up the past, my error. But we really ought to imply a moratorium on each other regarding this debate.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Using multiple picks to acquire a player who never saw the field is a fail no matter how you slice it. So is drafting a bust in round 2. Guess what, both failed!

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Though only one has a chance to develop into a starter for the Browns.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct. I wasn’t calling Veikune a bust yet.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Bernie and I were. Nobody mentioned you at all.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

kwoog, you don’t have to be an asshole every time. golan was responding to me pointing out that it is early to call veikune a bust, and I offered my opinion like we allow you to.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t intentionally being an asshole, I actually did miss that you had commented in this exchange. Your comment was totally valid, my bad.

Nonetheless, golan plays the asshole card once out of every three posts (“Phil”), so the selectivity is noted. (Without contrition, I might add)

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Apology accepted. I get you two have a philosophical difference on football, my only point was that both guys have flaws.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Not if there’s a regime change. He’s the 8th best player at a position where he’s never played a meaningful down in his life, with zero pro film for a new regime to look at.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

If we have a new regime that cuts a second rounder without looking at film, then we have the wrong new regime.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

How much two year old, college, defensive end at Hawaii film on the 8th best LB on the 32nd ranked Defense in football do you think a regime should look at?

Apologize for the diction.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Not defending Veikune, but I think it’s pretty clear we are have been m ore capable defensively over the past 5 weeks or so, particularly in the front 7. If I had to pick a weakness on this team on defense, it would definitely be the secondary.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

And we’ll see about your “zero percent” prediction. If there is a coaching change, which is highly likely, then odds are he’s cut. Bookmark it.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Okeedokie, Phil.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Any time, Eric.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Always knew you were illiterate.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it already time for kwoog to start busting out the personal attacks? I believe it is.

Always knew you were illiterate.

^ Not a complete sentence, Phil.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

If you stick to making points, I’ll never say a word. You’re the one that is constantly derisive. I have no problem talking with you about football. Give the “Phil” bullshit a rest, and leave all the other stupid, non-football insults alone, and we’ll just end up agreeing to disagree.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

kwoog, you were the one that started the hostility here

Calling the loss of a 3rd "gutting" is laughable. You’re embarrassing yourself.

so i think you need to climb off your high horse

by notthatnoise on Jan 3, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you also called him an idiot, told him he wasn’t allowed to give his opinion, called his opinion nonsense, and told him to get a life.

whether you are intentionally being an asshole or not, you are being an asshole.

by notthatnoise on Jan 3, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Um, bite me?

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by kwoog on Jan 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Browns 19 — Jags 14

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

I am pissed I am being forced to watch the we don’t care about the end of the season Colts. I would rather watch the Ravens than this preseason game.

Seriously the Colts and the Bills deserve to be on TV? What a joke!

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

My first game on TV since San Diego!

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You can watch the Browns game (via online stream) here: http://www.rwbsports.com/ch5.html

by sidehacker on Jan 3, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. I actually had found that site and it just now started working.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Royal caught the ball. WTF…?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Derek Anderson isn’t wearing long sleeves.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Good job by Hodges to get that high snap. 3-0 lead, thanks to Cribbs setting us up with good field position again.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

looks like it’s going to be a low scoring game

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

shitty punt. he stinks.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

And like Anderson’s going to throw about 6 times in the game lol

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Works for me.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Six throws by Anderson may be six too many.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

and 7 is the magic number.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes on Wes Welker.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

Yes that looked ugly

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Mangini’s really feeling the cold, rubbing his arms, it’s really funny. Also, the Jags can’t catch the ball.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Punter gave them 3. He sucks.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

Wind.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, hodges is terrible…zastudil could a been big this game

by rockybrown on Jan 3, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s wind blowing towards that endzone, but I’ve seen him shank other ones. Zastudil could’ve been be a key to win this game today.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We cant win much of the field position game..

if the Jags know we are running on every play

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

The Jags have a Zach Miller of their own?

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

someone send daboll a tape of a dolphins game so he can see some other options for the wildcat

by rockybrown on Jan 3, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Come on Josh!

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

COME ON BROWNS!!!!

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

<3 that Hail Mary from Couch to Quincy Morgan.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

All right, we’re moving the football now.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

you just had to say that right?:P

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoke too soon. Picked :p

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Anderson was having a nice drive too. He can’t throw the football, meh, what else is new.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

OH MY GOD.

I HATE DA!!!!!

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

DA is awful.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This better be his last game on this team.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

and another fail is panicking, extending DA and not taking the 1st and 3rd rounders on the tender for him.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even want to think about that…

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Random, but on walterfootball.com they had MoMass’s scouting report from last year. Whoever did it claimed that he won’t last more than 3 years in the league. So far, he’s been proven wrong.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

How?

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, agree. what has he done to prove he’ll be around that long. okay year, but nothing solidifying his position.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he basically said MoMass sucked. I didn’t mean that he’s been proven wrong about him staying in the league. But MoMass has been our best WR this year.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

worst. announcing crew. ever.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

Ok, we’ve got excellent field position. Let’s do this!

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

please remember DA is our QB right now…

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

but we’ve got an RB :P

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

thank god. that’s our only hope.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerome!!!

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

everyone knows ratliff is our starter anyway…

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Eliminate the QB from the situation, and we score points. Hmmm.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

now that we’re reminiscing of the Couch era, would we cheer if he got injured?

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume you’re referring to DA; I don’t think we’d cheer since fans probably aren’t excited about Ratliff.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Our best bet= Joerome, Josh and.......JJ Hickson?

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Jennings?

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll buy that

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

When I said I wanted to win out instead of getting a better draft pick after the Steelers game, I didn’t think we would actually do it.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

Who are these guys?

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

These guys are AWESOME.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Woof Woof

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, imagine a little more creativity with the wildcat utilizing both harrison and cribbs

by rockybrown on Jan 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

I really feel like Harrison can be our starting RB next year. Idk where Davis falls into this, but it’d be nice to also get a RB in maybe the 4th round.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

I’d like to see something out of him today. In the cold. He was worthless in the Pittsburgh game and hasn’t done much today. We may need a cold weather back.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

lets stick this one in the end zone

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Easy E!!

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

I like this team that I’m seeing.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

if they’d have played this way all year we’d have had a shot at .500

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

we’d be in the playoffs already. None of the teams fighting for that spot are better than this team.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

you’re probably right.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope they don’t fire Mangini… it’s finally starting to pull together.

by tmptplayer on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

3 -7 49 yards 0 tds 1 int

at the end of the game I hope this is Anderson’s stat line

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

he’s really trying to screw this team. Look at that penalty.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is he changing the play with 2 seconds on the playclock?

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t think its deliberate, he just stinks out loud. he shouldn’t even start for a UFL team.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. I hope Indy loses their first game in the playoffs.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Because I think they are trying to be too smart/clever for their own good.

They won’t play hard last week, but they keep Manning, Wayne and Clark in this week to get some reception records. They just seem overconfident in their abilities.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I definitely want the Colts to lose. Sitting your best players in the regular season reeks of cockiness.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that sarcasm?

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jan 3, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I look at it this way: don’t let the coaching decision make you want to screw over such a great Peyton-Manning-led team.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

they stink, Chris. You can’t like a team that never gives it their best at the end of the regular season.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I feel that they do things that are almost as arrogant as the Patriots but they don’t receive nearly the same amount of dislike.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess i just don’t see what’s arrogant about wanting to rest guys for the playoffs.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It just doesn’t work. I don’t get why they do it.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t disagree with you, i just don’t think its a reason to dislike a team. they’re classy and do things the right way. i like that and i like the colts. but again, i agree that it hasn’t always worked.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I just am bitter about 2007. I will never forgive them for it.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Maybe extreme frustration, but I am not going to hate them come the postseason.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned the trying to set the records today above but not going for the wins record. It’s probably just a hang up I have.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i haven’t watched any of that game today; how do you know they’re just trying to break a record?

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m stuck watching it and the announcers made mention of the records and as soon as they finished getting the records they pulled them out of the game.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

There is some assumption on my part but it was pretty obvious.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Heck of a fake by the Browns there; surprised it didn’t work for the TD. Points, nonetheless!

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

pretty original play call

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, they just showed TRSS on TV!

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I adore teams that run the ball like we have been.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Me too. Nothing more exciting than an eight minute, 17 play, 50 yard TD drive.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Rashad Jennings would have been an interesting draft pick for the Browns.

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

It’s like Kevin Mack is smiling on us.

I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

by portland, oregon on Jan 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Bernard has been a pretty solid opportunity session product.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Somewhere Marion Motley is chuckling approvingly.

I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

by portland, oregon on Jan 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Mmm, gonna get a cup of java. Good first half of football, Browns!

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Cool ...the ref fumbled the ball!

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

before Jax could spike it

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Where’s the snow?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

2nd half: Stack the box, make Garrard beat us.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want a blizzard.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

did you see the bills-colts highlights, they’re having one in buffalo.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Blizzard?

or lake-effect snow

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Missed that.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That looked awesome. I wish our game looked like that.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that would be fun. and it would probably lower the chances DA throws the ball even more.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If there’s one thing we can count on, it’s that no matter the conditions and no matter the score, DA will find a way to give the ball away.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty excited for his release. Might crack a beer when it happens.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow! Vickers took out 2 guys on the Cribbs TD run. Great blocking.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

As good as Cribbs and Harrison have been the last 6 weeks, Vickers is our MVP.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Were the Giants always this bad?

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Worse collapse: Giants or Broncos?

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Giants – broncos still have a chance

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The Broncos played Philly tough.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Giants. The Broncos were supposed to suck this year.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Their fans were a bunch of pricks though the week we played them. I am rooting harder for their missing the playoffs.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true. They were as bad as some of the Steelers and Ravens fans.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

and that’s really saying something

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Teams we should be rooting for concerning our draft pick: Bills, Raiders, Redskins, Seahawks

Bills currently up big, other 3 play at 4:15

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

Seattle’s probably the other one with a chance to win. The Redskins are terrible and you never know with the Raiders.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a nice catch by Sims-Walker.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

That was a nice drop by Miller

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Is Ventrone really playing safety today?

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

Well, that was the bit of luck we didn’t get on the opening kick.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Scobee living up to his accuracy from 40+.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel excitement watching this game?

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Definitely exciting.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It's exciting just to have competitive games to watch

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m excited because we’ve looked good for the last 6 games; i’m REALLY excited about our momentum ending the year and the prospects for next year with everyone healthy, 11 draft picks, and holmgren on board.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

In the scenario that we win and Buffalo wins (Buffalo being a certainty) at worst we have 7th pick.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

So we can pick up Clausen (sarc)

by Chief WaDrew on Jan 3, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

19 carries 77 yards, not bad

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

20 for 94. Even better

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely proving he can run in cold weather.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m on board for going into next year with Harrison as the feature back.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

His job to lose at this point.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Jennings just had something to say to that. WOW.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Jennings plays well as well, heck nothing wrong with two competent backs, and as Dorn says below add Davis to that mix.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m thinking he is getting great marks right now in his audtition

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually am pretty excited for a Harrison/Davis timeshare with Harrison being the featured back.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

RUN OF THE YEAR

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Haha, the opposite of coaching 101.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

fun for us, nerve racking for mangini

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That was hilarious.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Note to Daboll: Don’t let DA turn it over.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

got away with stepping OB

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

I think the refs ended up spotting it correctly.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Jennings. Are you kidding?

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Harrison needs 1 yard for his third consecutive 100 yard game.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Harrison is another guy who’s gonna have to get some money now.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

I beleive we are seeing an attempt to establish an offensive identity here…

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

An identity without a qb.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

a perfect identity for the one we have.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

true

but an identiy none the less

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like we are developing an identity the Ravens had and the Steelers had before they got pass wacky.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Timeout, are we going to go for it?

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

With the control we have of the game right now, I would say so.

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope so.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I would, kicking’s no guarantee

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This drive started with just under 10 minutes on the clock. No matter the outcome here, a fantastic drive.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

Yup. No more settling for moral victories.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

6 minute drive, we ran the ball down their throats and finished it with a TD on 4th and short. Poetry.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That was too easy, haha.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

our O-line looks awesome

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody think Favre’s going to play out the Giants game?

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

this feels so great. lets get 5 in a row.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

This time next year, I want to be going for our twentieth straight win.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m in for that.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheering always beats vomiting.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

cheer til you throw up ;-)

Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.

by doggrad87 on Jan 3, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

if we hold on and win this one, i think it would be highly disappointing for mangini to get fired. i think a 5 gane winning streak is a tremendous building block. don’t change much, just get healthy and add a shit load of draft picks.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, four, my bad. point still stands though.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see how you can fire Mangini at this point.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Agree (just in case anyone doesn’t know my thoughts on this).

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Roger Dorn’s mentioning the clock. The Q is almost over. 3 posessions down, it’s a very good situation.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

No, it really is not hard to trade away Braylon Edwards. Really, wasn’t that hard at all.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Rack it

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Could you explain to me how we get a higher pick out of that deal? What needs to happen with Edward’s production over there?

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he needs 55 or more receptions.

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Jet or on the season? And does that include the post season?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Jet. Don’t know about the post season, but I hope it applies, too. I’d like that 2nd round pick.

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He needed over 20 catches today for us to get a 2nd. No chance.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how many positions the Colts’ rollover last week will wind up costing us in either round?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The better the Jets do, the lower our picks in the 2nd/3rd and 5th get. With so many teams at 8-8 and 9-7 that win could end up costing us ten positions on each of those picks.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i missed it, who are you replying to?

Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.

by doggrad87 on Jan 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

ooohhhhhkay

Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.

by doggrad87 on Jan 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

This is awesome and very impressive. Props to Mangini and the entire organization. I admit I’m a little worried as to what Holmgren will do with the obvious progress that’s been made.

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

I was reading the OBR that mentioned a Jay Glazer report saying Mangini was under 50/50 to stay. Glazer, as far as I know, is pretty good with his sources.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LaCanfora, who also knows his shit says Mangini is gone. :(

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazing irony if Mangini gets fired. After all of the complaining the first half of the year, the fanbase would be upset to see him go.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Lerner can’t even hire Mike Holmgren correctly. (sarc, sorta)

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by kwoog on Jan 3, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The Steeleres are the only team in need winning their game. Sucks.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t get the Dolphins’ collapse. I thought they would at least pull this one out.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought they were toast when Ronnie went down.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Henne’s out now, too, right?

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He was.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that George Foster playing line for the Steelers? Sad

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

It’s not, just looked it up. Ramon Foster

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I beleive this game illustrates

what would happen to the SEC teams if they were to play any games in these conditions

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Ohio State would have killed Florida had that Championship game been played in Lambeau.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Serious.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Speed is speed.

Also everyone knows they don’t play championship games in areas with crappy weather.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hence, the built in disadvantage for teams that must

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not a built in disadvantage everyone knows it, so everyone has the chance to build their teams accordingly.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

but if OSU built there team like florida, they would lose to big ten teams in crappy weather and would never make a championship game to begin with.

by notthatnoise on Jan 3, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we’ll see, that seems to be UM’s plan. Also I don’t think Florida would lose in the big 10 because of the weather. They have had good teams, with good players and their speed is an advantage.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m not saying they would, they have been a fantastic team for the last few years. the problem is a pass happy team built on speed is in serious trouble in bad weather, which is common in the big ten.

by notthatnoise on Jan 3, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t mean speed as in pass happy, but speed as in faster than everyone else, defense especially.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

SEC teams never play ANWYWHERE with crappy weather. Ever.

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok fine, you all win.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Pat White is out cold, just got destroyed.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

looks like he’s alive at least

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, he was moving his legs. The way he lied there at first looked like he was either out cold or could not move.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If Carolina had not been so stubborn about Delhomme, they’d be a dangerous playoff team.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

failure to tackle is what that was

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Be ready for an onsides kick here.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

That was the ugliest return of Cribbs’ career.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Royal caught the ball?

Woah.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Even more surprising was them allowing Anderson to throw it.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s two.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Jax is selling out to stop the run now

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Not working.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

not there

but count he guys in the box for Jax

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by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t have to, Steve Tasker just did it for me.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

even they noticed

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Jan 3, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone have a streaming site? Mine went down.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

That hurts…

Duh – duh – duh – dish!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

mine is going in and out

http://www.rwbsports.com/ch5.html

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw the Harrison TD. Great blocks by Steinbach, Vickers and Cribbs

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Vickers should be in the Pro Bowl.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely. He’s playing at a Lorenzo Neal level right now.

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. 41 – 0

Vikes – Giants

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

Actually 44-0, but Giants are threatening.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

wonder how they feel now?

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard a Colts fan went to the DMV to replace their Colts plate for a regular Indiana plate after losing one game.

He said he was disgusted in his team.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think Colts fans keep to license plates for these occasions.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like MoMass.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

That was big. Time is not on the Jags side.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

We started the drive with 10:25 i think. This is my kind of football.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is how you win in the North.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, and I love it.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

HAPPY BIRTHDAY EVAN MOORE!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

The Ghost might break his carries record a week later.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Where did Ghost come from?

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That was his nickname at Wazzu

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Wazzu (sp?) is what they call WSU. Kind of like Mizzou for Missouri.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right. Thought it was Washington U.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Like the “galloping” variety?

by Chief WaDrew on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Red Grange was an excellent running back WAY back in the day for the Bears. His nickname was the “Galloping Ghost”. I was drawing a comparison of the nickname of ghost being used in reference to football players.

by Chief WaDrew on Jan 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The ‘making pottery with Demi Moore’ variety?

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

With Righteous Brothers blaring in the background.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, this is old school football. What is exciting to me is that this is EXACTLY what Mangini did with Thomas Jones. Run. Run. Run. Eat clock. Run. Run. Eat Clock. SCREEN! Run. Run. Eat Clock.

And he had far less talent to make it happen here.

by gentryholdem on Jan 3, 2010 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Jacksonville out of T.O.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

haven’t seen Cribbs in awhile

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

He might be dinged up. He looked really bad on that last kick return.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Truly beautiful football to watch.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Cribbs wildcat coming

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Who would go for it here, as they would get lousy field position anyhow?

by NM Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Too late, we made the field goal.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, make it so Jacksonville needs two touchdowns to win.

by gentryholdem on Jan 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

D needs to step up with a 4 and out.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Jan 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, Jacksonville:

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Jamarcus Russell’s Dorm at LSU?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope – Jacksonville’s done.

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I got it. I just couldn’t let the season end without one last hamfisted jab at Russell’s fatitude.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That Rams-9ers game looks pretty exciting.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

This is just sad for Jacksonville…

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

I feel bad for Houston. Really wanted to see them make the playoffs.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Dilfer said it the best.

Kubiak ALWAYS gets the fans hopes up, then ends the season an average 8-8

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, if they won Steelers couldn’t go to the playoffs right?

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe they needed NY, Bal and Pitt to lose. Maybe. I’ve sort of lost track of the playoff scenarios beyond if Bal and NY win, they’re in.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Houston losing helps the Steelers.

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

MATT ROTHS MY SOCKS OFF!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

This is Browns football . . . nice to see it when we didn’t think we would this year!

I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

by portland, oregon on Jan 3, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

So… we actually improved this season!!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Not over yet!

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Will Pittsburgh go to the playoffs? Great God, I hate to see that! I would like to think we staked their heart.

I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

by portland, oregon on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

They’re in if the Jets or Ravens lose, I believe. Now that the Texans lost.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Then again, the Texans may not lose. Didn’t see the comeback!

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

lolwut?

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, tie game. Wish it were on TV.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

GO HOUSTON!

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Bess! Huge TD. Go Fins!

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Look at that Iron Curtain defense.

by Bumblyjack on Jan 3, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I tell you, their fourth quarter defense this year is an iron curtain.

Too bad they left the curtain wide open.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

GO HOUSTON, MIAMI, WHOEVER IS PLAYING THE RAVENS!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

Miami now within 3 at 27-24.

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

Really? We gave them a TD?

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

oh well we still won

The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 3, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Best stat of the day: Anderson 11 pass attempts.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

Got to admit though, all things being equal, I’d love to see that done all next year. Albeit, with Quinn managing the game. If he never passed it more than 20-25 times a game and we ran the ball like this, I’d be all in favor of that.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We just need a game manager

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Best stat of the day: 1 win.

by Bumblyjack on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Mangini smiled! Omgsh!

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

don’t see that often from Cleveland coaches not named Mike Brown

The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Houston in the red zone.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

What a year!

I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

by portland, oregon on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Big Ben fumbles! Miami going nuts!

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

…And Henne gets picked. Eff!

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

thought henne was out?

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Henne had an eye injury, then Pat White nearly got his head caved in and was down for about 10 minutes. Thigpin is in for the ’Fins now.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I just tuned in so I didn’t see who was QBing. I assumed it had been Henne.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

what a turn around. i like it that i feel good coming off a 5-11 year. the future looks bright.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

the future looks bright.

With a few more defensive playmakers and a capable QB… LOOK OUT NFL! haha

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I missed the last quarter… had to take my sister from the airport. But what a turnaround the second half of the season! 5-11 is nothing to brag about, but at one point I thought we’d go 0-16. We should’ve beaten Cincy at home and Detroit. This could actually be a 7 win team.

I hope Mangini gets 1 more year.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

Wooo! Texans TD!

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by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

34 — 27 Houston

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

1:54 to go.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet.

If HOU wins, what happens to PIT?

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

God Bless the Texans!

Only time I’ll ever say this: Go Raiders!

by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 3, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Would like to see the Raiders, Seahawks, and Redskins all win.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Texans score TD!

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Touchdown Houston!

The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

While Mangini can rub people off the wrong way, I love the discipline he’s instilled.

And dare I say it… Daboll has actually grown into the OC role well…

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Hard to be upset with the offensive gameplan down the stretch.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 3, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to dawgsbynature for everything this year from all of us who are far away

I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

by portland, oregon on Jan 3, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

I’d love it more if he lived in Phoenix.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 3, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Steelers are going to win.

Luckiest team in the NFL if they make the playoffs.

by emily522 on Jan 3, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

They’re the damn luckiest team in the NFL whether they make the playoffs or not, though you’ll never get any of their front running fans to admit so.

"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay

by woodsmeister on Jan 3, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Pats are marching right down the field

The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 3, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

POST-GAME THREAD

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Jan 3, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

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