Cribbs For Mashall

I was laughing insanely when he said he was worth 2 first rounders.

We won’t get more than a 2nd round pick out of him.

Its not like this is devin hester. devin hester returns kicks and thats all he can do (he drops every ball thrown to him).

1. Cribbs is one of the best kick/punt returners in HISTORY.

2. Cribbs is also one of the most valuable gunners in the league. He makes a lot of takles in punt coverage and also is key when the browns down the ball near the goal line (which has happened a lot thanks to him)

3. Cribbs has better hands as a receiver than hester and when he gets targets, he is decent.

4. He was a QB in college so he can run the wildcat and pass it occasionally if need be.

5. He is great running the ball. He ran the ball great this year and is dangerous running the ball b/c he is so hard to bring down.

So you are really trading for a guy who can do it all pretty well. Besides returns he is not a star at anything but he does so much for you team that is invaluable. plus if used more in an offense, he can be the type of guy who has to be accounted for on every down, whether it is running a route, taking a handoff, or running the wildcat.

Apparently you don’t realize that when a player is still under contract, then the team still hold all the cards and can put any price tag they want on that player.

The Browns will overvalue Cribbs be cause they can, and they do not want to really lose him, therefore if a team really wants to give up 1st rounders for him, then the Browns win in taking advantage of a team that was willing to do the trade.

Was desmon howard worth picking in the first round?? He wasn’t much of a receiver but the caliber returner of cribbs. I would say, for the team, yes. it was the redskins and they just won the superbowl. look at the teams I suggested. the packers, the colts and the saints are all playoff teams, 2 have byes. these teams consider their first round pick somewhat of a luxury anyways. all 3 of these teams have horrendous special teams play especially the saints who let Kick returners get 25 yards per kick, when they only get about 22…they get only about 4-5 yds per punt when their opponents get 15. those numbers don’t seem like a lot but they effect field position significantly. for a team that is one of the best in the league but doesn’t have good special teams, this actually makes sense. imagine what peyton manning could do when each drive starts 6-10 yards closer to the end zone…he can do a lot.

I agree with you on that last point. The special teams won us games. We had the best special teams core in the league. If that special teams was on the saints, they would have gond 16-0 without breaking a sweat. i guess he didn’t watch how many of the times we downed the ball inside the 10, most of them with the help of cribbs (although mike adams was good in that field as well). Without cribbs we would have won probably at least a couple less games… I agree.
 WIns:

Buffalo: He had a 31 yd run to set up the first of two field goals. his good returns were instrumental in a game of field position

Pittsburgh: Led the team in rush yds including a long one to set up Jennings’ TD. Had a long punt return to set up a FG

KC: No need for an explanation here.

Oakland: the only game where he didn’t have an impact. he did however down a punt inside the 5 (which he seemed to help with at least once a game)

Jacksonville: Had a rushing TD. Had another run to set up a FG

Losses (close ones where he had an impact):

Detroit: receiving TD in close game

Cincy in OT: 205 return yds to help with field position….plus a nice 15 yd run to set up a score

San Diego: 150 return yds, a reception and a 30 yd run to set up a score.

Cribbs was the player who had the most impact on our games this year. in general, when he wasn’t involved in some way, we lost big (except for oakland but they suck).

If we trade Cribbs WR should be last on the list….

I would not say that at all. the fact is, to be andre johnson caliber and produce like that every year you need elite speed. johnson has elite speed and is great in every category. johnson ran a 4.4 flat at the combine whereas marshall ran a 4.55. another guy in that draft that ran a 4.55 is marques colston. colston is great but he will never be as good as andre johnson either b/c of his speed limitations. at best, brandon marshall could be like terrell owens. both do not have elite speed but are big and go over the middle (but sometimes drop too many balls). both have benefited from the offense. owens has always played with an elite QB. he played with steve young, McNabb, and Romo. Owens was still good but nowhere near as good when garcia was QB. Marshall also will might never bee as good as owens (and marshall benefits from pass first offenses).

Brandon Marshall will NEVER be as good as Andre Johnson.

Legal trouble

According to Orlando-Orange County public records (case 48-2004-MM-012392-O), on Halloween 2004, while a student at UCF, Marshall was arrested in Orlando on charges of assault on a law enforcement officer, refusal to obey, disorderly conduct and resisting an officer.52

On January 1, 2007, Marshall was present at “The Shelter,” a nightclub in Denver, Colorado, along with teammates Javon Walker and Darrent Williams. The trio was attending a birthday party held for and by Denver Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. As the players were leaving the club in a limousine, Williams was fatally shot in the neck after an unknown assailant opened fire on the vehicle. Willie Clark was later charged with the murder.53 Walker has stated in interviews that the shooter was likely a nightclub patron whose motive was retaliation after being involved in an altercation with Marshall’s cousin earlier that night.54

On March 26, 2007, Marshall was arrested in the Highlands Ranch suburb of Denver on suspicion of domestic violence after his girlfriend reported that following a domestic dispute, Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house.55 Charges from the incident were later dismissed on May 25, 2007, after Marshall completed anger management counseling.56

In the early morning of October 22, 2007, Marshall was arrested in the Denver-Aurora metropolitan area at the intersection of 14th and Blake St. for driving under the influence of alcohol.57 A trial was scheduled for September 16, but Marshall instead agreed to a plea bargain four days earlier; he pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability impaired.58 He was sentenced to one-year probation and 24 hours of community service.

On June 12, 2008, Marshall was ticketed for an illegal lane change, then found to be without his license and proof of insurance.59 The case was eventually dropped as part of a plea bargain for the October 22, 2007 driving incident involving alcohol.58

According to an article published in the Rocky Mountain News on July 28, 2008, Douglas County deputies fielded “about 11” calls to Marshall’s home since January 2006. The article stated that one call resulted in Marshall being arrested (the March 26, 2007 domestic dispute), and some did not involve him at all.60

A September 17, 2008 article on CompleteColorado.com stated that the solicitor’s office in Fulton County, Georgia filed misdemeanor battery charges on September 10 for an alleged incident on March 4, 2008, in Atlanta, Georgia. Marshall was booked on March 6, then released the next day after posting a $1,000 cash bond.61 The case was assigned to Judge John Mather in Georgia state court.62 On August 14, 2009, a jury in Atlanta found Marshall not guilty.63

On March 1, 2009, Marshall was arrested in Atlanta for disorderly conduct after allegedly being involved in a fight with his fiancee, Michi Nogami-Campbell. Marshall was released on a $300 bond.64 The charges were dropped the following day.65

That’s a bit much for my taste. Just because, to date, he’s only missed one game due to suspension doesn’t mean we should ignore a pattern of behavior that’s sure to lead to further suspensions.

Add to that the number of times he’s been hurt (hip surgery, pcl tear, lacerations to an artery and veins and nerves in his forearm, etc…) and I say he’s a high risk acquisition. No thanks.

I will admit my main source of information on the subject was OTL, and they were pretty unforgiving of Marshall, but they might have room for some spin in order to create a more interesting story. They were pretty convincing though, and had several people on directly related to the case.

but not neccessarily by $7M

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do you like search my comments and try to disprove them. I was making a joke you idiot. I know he has gotten injured once or twice besides that, but he has only missed significant time once. the point is, that he is a physical player and gets banged up a lot b/c of how he plays, but he plays through injuries and does just fine. that is like accusing and MMA fighter for getting hit in the face too much. boldin’s game is going up and getting the ball, and then just fight the defense with his strength. his style of play leads to occasional small injuries but they are mostly freak injuries. he did tear his meniscus in 2004 while making a good play, and then reinjured it in ‘05 but it hasn’t been a problem since.

I never said he had a clean bill of health, i was saying he was tough and does get banged up but plays through it.

Fair. Probably true even in terms of passer rating when compared to DA.