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It's Steeler Week and the Browns are Competitive, but Who Can Play QB?

Right now, the quarterback situation for Cleveland seems pretty ugly as they get ready for their first of two games against the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. Let's take a quick look at each of the three quarterbacks currently on the Browns' roster:

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  • First off, I think QB Jake Delhomme may be done for awhile based on the reports that have surfaced. Mary Kay Cabot of the Plain Dealer reported that Delhomme re-injured his ankle and now has a high and low ankle sprain. Delhomme is scheduled to undergo an MRI today to see the extent of the injury, but he "could be out an extended period of time." Given how poorly he moved against Atlanta, even if he has the same mobility available for the Pittsburgh game, he'd get destroyed by the Steelers' defense.
  • Our best hope is to see what the word on backup QB Seneca Wallace is. He suffered an ankle injury against the Falcons, and if his injury is anything like Delhomme's, Wallace would probably be even more affected than Delhomme would be by a lack of mobility. It's a major part of his game, especially given his lack of height -- linemen would just bull rush over the middle to take advantage of his injury.
  • What about rookie quarterback Colt McCoy? I actually would not have a problem starting him temporarily against the Steelers, but my expectations would not be very high. He has not had much, if any, practice time with the first-team offense. He was playing behind an atrocious offensive line in the preseason, but it still stood out that he didn't look very comfortable with a lot of his throws, especially on deep passes. If McCoy can only work in short passes that barely go beyond the line of scrimmage, Pittsburgh is going to feast on him.

Given those three options, the best option for the Browns this week is to utilize the running game (captain obvious, I know). When the Browns beat the Steelers at the end of last season, Brady Quinn only completed six passes. Joshua Cribbs had 8 carries, Chris Jennings had 20 carries, and Jerome Harrison had 7 carries. It wasn't a pretty 13-6 win for the offense, and it'd probably be pretty impossible to replicate a win with that exact gameplan. However, with something similar and maybe a couple of additional field goals here and there, you never know.

The other option for Cleveland is to sign a quarterback off the free agent wire. Off the top of my head, here are a few options:

  • Jeff Garcia: I don't see him playing for a team unless they are competing for the postseason. Also, I don't think he'd take too kindly to being fed to the wolves in Pittsburgh. He's playing in the UFL right now.
  • Brett Ratliff: The Patriots just added him to their practice squad a few days ago, but he did spend all of camp in Cleveland and has been under Mangini for several years. He probably knows just as much, if not more, of the offense that McCoy does.
  • J.P. Losman: Losman spent time in camp with the Seattle Seahawks, but hasn't seen significant NFL action since the 2008 season.
  • Daunte Culpepper: He did play for the Detroit Lions in 2009, so he might be a little desperate to shine in the NFL again. He hasn't been good for a long time, but he has some mobility. He's been playing in the United Football League this year.
  • Josh McCown: He has also had some success in the UFL this year and has been an average quarterback in the NFL.
  • Patrick Ramsey: The big-armed quarterback tried to win a backup role in New Orleans this year, but was released by the team. He's currently a free agent. I've never been a fan of Ramsey's, but I could see him garnering some interest from the Browns.

Are there any other free agent choices you think the Browns should consider if Delhomme and Wallace are out? Honestly, the option I'd prefer most is for Ratliff to sign with the Browns.

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Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

This is brilliant! We can break Colt McCoy in much sooner than anticipated!

by mooncamping on Oct 11, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If you want to acquire a player, I still think Chad Pennington is awesome.

by mooncamping on Oct 11, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually kinda like this idea. Much more of a proven player than the others.

by shep615 on Oct 11, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Miami would require a 3rd round pick knowing that we are in dire straits. Not worth it.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes. Not worth it at that price.

by shep615 on Oct 11, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say we are in dire straits unless people are serious about us being a playoff team. We shouldn’t be giving away draft picks for wins this year.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never lost faith, that Chad Pennington is a starting caliber quarterback. I thought they were way off, thinking Henne was better. Maybe we can trade a player?

by mooncamping on Oct 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think Pennington is get-able, without getting ripped off.

the injury/ long-term point is a valid one, though.

is pennington’s style of play more similar to what Colt’s might end up being anyway?

by discoinferno083 on Oct 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Chad Pennington was one of the smartest and savviest quarterbacks in the NFL. Like Kosar this guy can improvise.
Now, Colt McCoy, I mean Texas isn´t Harvard, and he doesn´t act terribly smart, but who knows? The highlights suggest he can improvise and make things happen.

by mooncamping on Oct 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we need another injury prone QB though, especially since we’d probably have to overpay for him.

by johnnyphoenix on Oct 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If neither Delhomme or Wallace can play this will be the 9th straight year CLE has had a change at QB due to injury or performance. This will also be the 3rd time in 4 years the Browns have been forced to go to their 3rd string QB. Meanwhile Favre can (allegedly) viral video his cheese winkie & get away with it….

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

This will also be the 3rd time in 4 years the Browns have been forced to go to their 3rd string QB.

I don’t think this is right. The last time I remember us going to our 3rd stringer was 2008 with Dorsey/Gradkowski. In 2007, we didn’t. In 2009, we didn’t.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

2007 Anderson/Quinn/Frye
2008 Anderson/Quinn/Frye/Gradkowski
2009 Anderson/Quinn
2010 Delhomme/Wallace/McCoy?

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

2007 Anderson/Quinn/Frye

Quinn saw maybe two series in the final game of the season, at which time he was the established backup. Frye had been traded after game 1 and Quinn had been number 2 for the entire season except game 1.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

2008 Anderson/Quinn/Frye/Gradkowski

Frye was gone in 2008 — he was playing for Mike Holmgren and the Seahawks as third string behind the backup, Seneca Wallace.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ratliff.. and someone worse.. defintely played last year.

by discoinferno083 on Oct 11, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Missed the connection between Favre´s cheese winkie and our QB situation?

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused as to what it even means to have a cheese winkie.

by shep615 on Oct 11, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie Frye = Ken Dorsey clone.

Also i was trying to keep it kid friendly on the website. you never know who’s reading and you cant take stuff off the internet.

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If neither Delhomme or Wallace can play this will be the 9th straight year CLE has had a change at QB due to injury or performance.

haven’t we already switched qb’s b/c of injury or performance? like, twice?

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 11, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steelers fan here. Looking forward to the game this week. I hope we can remain somewhat civil.

I would like to see us play S. Wallace. I think he the most competent of your QBs right now and offers the best challenge. I am a bit worried about Hillis, because generally bruiser-type backs give our defense more trouble.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Oct 11, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Hillis is a beast. If he’s back to health then you should probably be afraid.

If not, I don’t know how much of a chance we have. Even with Seneca Wallace under center, we’ve been losing (albeit competitively). I’m not sure we’ll have Wallace and we probably won’t have Delhomme. So if Hillis isn’t at the top of his game, we’re probably sunk.

I look forward to a great game. My gut instinct is that Hillis will be good to go for the game and it will be a good contest.

And quite honestly… I hope we rock Roethlisberger similar to how we rocked him 8 times in our last meeting.

by shep615 on Oct 11, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

@Johnny_S If we keep it to football we should be fine :-). Thanks for the civil note. It will be interesting to see how Ben will be having been out for so long. I think historically he has done well in these situations. If the Steelers are down a TD or two at the half do you think there will be a chance that they might put in Batch?

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Oct 11, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not

No way Batch goes in.

  1. is our franchise QB. You just don’t pull him because the team is losing. What if the Colts had pulled out Pey-Pey halfway through the game yesterday, just because they weren’t winning?

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ben roethlisberger=/=Peyton Manning and Peyton manning also didn’t just come off a 4 game suspension. he actually played the week before.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did this happen?

I didn’t know anything about any suspension…Was this in the news?

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah! It is funny how obsessive the press has been about this… and now they have Farve to feast upon.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Oct 11, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farva and his penis

I hear it’s about as impressive as a Chihuahua’s…

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twig and berries… what is up with that dude! I think they may have to suspend him if they suspended Ben. By the way… I saw Ben’s interview… do you think he is really as contrite as he seems to be? He said he has gone back to his roots. Do you buy it?

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Oct 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll buy it when he

A) Stops going out and giving the paparazi photo-op gold.

and

B) He stays in shape, and away from college bars.

He is an extremely easily noticeable public figure. He needs to keep a low profile, and keep his nose (and penis) clean.

I’m going to root for the Steelers this Sunday, and I will cheer when/if Ben plays like a champion.

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh...

Farva will not get suspended. 1st offense, and all that. Besides, it wouldn’t do any good anyway. He’ll just retire. Again…

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard from someone that knows his dad that they are both total douches, so going back to his roots doesn’t mean anything to me.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

well…thanks for the sarcasm.

point is,

taking big ben out in his first game back=/=taking peyton manning out after he played 5 games.

The situations are comparing 2 players in 2 different situations. its possible they pull him if he is in the same situation as ben, however he isn’t.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you asked a ridiculous question

So I posed an = ridiculous scenario.

Sarcasm? A Browns fan is calling me out for using sarcasm? Forgive me for not taking you seriously.

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody takes him seriously.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

really? you are gonna side with the troll? are you just pissed you lost this week in fantasy to me? that was just luck on my part.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right bross, I’m pissed you beat me and I’m taking it out on you on the freaking boards. Give me a freaking break.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

In money leagues, this can get intense.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I could think of a way to run with it now, I would. Unfortunately I got nothing, except that bross is talking like he’s already won, where as I’m slowing inching closer, even though 3 of my players left their games early.

How was that?

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re 4 points behind, I do not see how you lose.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful. I’m not going to start pretending I’ve won yet.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m ecstatic that Bross’s douche plan to take Holmes away from me after I said he was on my wire has blown up in his face.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Folk has become my waiver wire pick up of the year so far, besides Lloyd who I haven’t played much.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lloyd will be mine once I start to play him (won’t make that mistake of sitting him again). Also, Hillis.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lloyd will be in my CBS league next week. Mark Clayton is done for the season. /sigh

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clayton got me this week as well, but I hope to pick up Branch on the wire.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

don’t be pissed and call me a douche. I am being 100% honest when I say that he was already my #1 waiver priority and I had a higher number.

i will even tell you my waiver wire: 1. Santonio 2. Mike Williams 3. David garrard.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You had no clue till I brought it up in a thread. From there, I know you purposefully did it to spite me. Idc though, he sucks, so haha.

And you’re a douche for that, so yeah.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was acting dumb because I didn’t want anyone to nab him before me. I in fact had put him on my waivers a day before.

don’t assume I am a douche and out to get you. I don’t think fantasy football is worth acting a douche over personally.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not just calling you a douche on FF.

That’d be stupid. Just venting where I had the chance.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay. I try not to be a douche on here too. sorry if I have been a douche to you or others.

Its always good to vent.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s nothing better than trash talking in fantasy football. Unfortunately I’m in a league where most of the players don’t see each other often. Plus my team sucks this year.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot there were games today. I honestly wasn’t trying to be cocky.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, it’s Monday.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I was going to say.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was tuesday. I am so lost…

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

something like that…I just am not good at using calendars.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just messing with you bross, off your previous comment below. Not trying to get to personal. If you’re offended, I apologize.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

its perfectly fine. I have developed a thicker skin here and am able to laugh at myself quite well.

that was a nice zinger and i followed with an insult to at how I can’t use calendars well (which is partly true…I just never use them and b/c of that sometimes forget the day)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, cool.

Because seriously, Monday always follows Sunday, so you can keep the calendar put away!

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep. For some reason it just felt like 2 days since the browns played…thats what I was thinking (I think…)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, if Folk keeps scoring I will win.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be awesome

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

A whole lot of this.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see no troll.

I see a Steeler fan who is coherently speaking his mind without idiotically trashing the Browns

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Steeler fan coherently speaking? I mean, maybe he’s not a troll, but clearly something is up.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Oct 12, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truly a rare sight indeed but it’s not like the Jackalope, coherent Steelers’ fans do exist, my neighbor is one of em.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flea are you sure? I’ve never met a Squealer Troll who is actually coherent. They always trash the Browns even after we make them cry (will always love the pic of Ward crying).

I'm really Cleveland Brown Jr's illegitimate son.

by J. W. on Oct 13, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you ignore him, he’ll go away.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They won’t bench Ben. If you watched Batch play, he really was not impressive. He just played well enough not to screw the defense. The “big” game he had, two of his passes, and the majority of his yardage, were thrown into double coverage and we got a lucky bounce.

All reports I heard from preseason camp was that Ben was miles ahead of all 4 QBs in every drill. Just sharper, more accurate, and all around better. I think it would take 4 picks and the game out of reach for them to pull Ben.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Oct 12, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Dawson?

He had a 108 passer rating last year

by the_fox_and_the_browns on Oct 11, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

We need to bring Tommy Tupa out of retirement: punt/QB duties.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mary Kay Cabot of the Plain Dealer reported that Delhomme re-injured his ankle and now has a high and low ankle sprain. Delhomme is scheduled to undergo an MRI today.

This is exactly what I was saying in the game thread. It was a bad decision to put Delhomme in with a possibility to re-aggravate the injury. Look what happened.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

No not a good call….So with the game still in the chance to win column you would put in the #3 rookie who has had no meaningful snaps since rookie introduction week into the game? Delhomme is a vet & simply put the best player available into the game & let them try to make plays. That said Delhomme knew his ankle was in bad shape as he jogged (limpishly) off the field asap to get that injection at halftime.

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the brighter side, Colt McCoy is far superior to Max Hall who beat the Saints yesterday. In fairness, he was benefited with 2 fumbles for TDs and an intercept for TD. We will need similiar eeriness to win. Maybe special teams breakout, and a rusty Ben mistake.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt McCoy is far superior to Max Hall who beat the Saints yesterday.

1. Hall didn’t beat the Saints. The Cardinals defense did.

2. Hall played a lot with the first team prior to yesterday, but Colt hasn’t played with our first team at all.

3. I hope you are right that Colt is better but just because he was drafted higher (or, at all) does not mean he is better.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Hall has weapons at his disposal. McCoy would have had a hobbled Hillis and our receiving corps.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt could not have lost the game anymore than Jake did. I know hindsight is 20-20, but Jake was a big time bust yesterday.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a lose-lose. Had we put Colt in, Delhomme would be on his way to getting better. Instead, his injury is worse than it was before. However, putting Delhomme in did give us a better chance to win.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with this statement. Delhomme is average when healthy. He was worthless injured. Playing Colt wouldn’t give us a better chance at winning, but at least we could see what he can do under adverse conditions.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would we want to ruin another young quarterback like that? I don’t want to see what he can do at all this year, much less under adverse conditions.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

with Wallace down we had no other choice. he couldn’t play and it wouldn’t be smart to throw colt in. If colt sucks and we want to put delhomme in even if he is injured, I don’t think we could because colt was our emergency QB

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call Emily. Seems this is an area that Eric suffers in. Completely bungled the Favre deal with NYJ – struggling here as well.

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by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree on Favre and I doubt that Holmgren would have wanted to see Mangini put Colt in to the game if JD was capable of going in. I honestly think we would have gone full wildcat before putting Colt in on Sunday.

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by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicago lost Cutler and won with a backup QB that had a 6 rating, throwing like 4 picks. Arizona won with rookie Max Hall. New England lost Brady and Cassel has a great year. We lose a Jake Delhomme – no big deal.

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by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused by your comment. I’m saying that I think Holmgren would prefer to see JD go into the game before an unprepared unactivated Colt McCoy. Not that Colt couldn’t perform. I also like Max Hall.

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with your point that Delhomme was a better choice in the Falcon game. He had supposedly been practicing – so I was particularly surprised how poorly he played. Much of his poor play could well be a tip of the hat to the Falcons D that smelled blood in the water when they didn´t have to worry about Seneca´s mobility.

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by realmccoy on Oct 12, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhh….Daboll is our OC. this is a big deal.

by discoinferno083 on Oct 11, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

1) Hall has been at least 2nd on the depth chart since the start of the season. Chicago had a whole week of practice to prepare their backup (who was then pulled).

2) The Browns are not on par with the 2008 New England Patriots ( I can’t believe I had to type this). And again, Cassel was a backup, not a third stringer.

3) And the main take away here is that Arizona and Chicago’s defenses won the games for them. The Browns D is solid but it’s not producing points and winning games.

by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 12, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shout out to Rob Ryan. Doing it with mirrors. Has kept us in every game with marginal talent. Starting safeties have zero intercepts and 1 pass defensed. Corners weak and thin. I expect the same thing vs. Steelers.

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by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

We have a young secondary minus Sheldon. Elam needs to be upgraded, but the pass D has been good 3 out of 5 games.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone heard anything on why we didn’t throw a Hail Mary right before halftime?

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I imagine we were just happy to be up 7-6 and we did not want to risk a negative play. I felt it was stupid as well, but prolly not a big deal.

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by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but if Delhomme was incapable of rolling out due to his ankle (I usually see QB’s roll out a tiny bit on the heaves), it probably would’ve been risky to have him stand in the pocket and see a strip or (short) pick happen.

I still would’ve wanted a try at least though.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I am thinking. Just throw it up. In this PI-happy league you never know what will happen.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how Cutler beat the Packers.

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And how Stafford beat the Browns.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he wouldn’t come back to help Arizona’s QB situation, then he’s not going to any other team.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, just joking. But slightly more serious, Jeff Garcia?

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He fits our offense better now probably than during his original reign I’d imagine. I’d support anyone the Browns had under center, but I just don’t expect it to be Garcia given the history and our record. Although he did try to play for Oakland before the season (or was that the year before?)

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Garcia can sign with a team til November

by The naome40 on Oct 12, 2010 5:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I watched him in his UFL game and he looked awful.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 3:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think he would want to play for a contender at this point. He fits the system, but I just don’t think he would come here. I would be in favor of Josh McCown. He is tearing up the UFL, plus when he was in the NFL, he was a good career backup like seneca.

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Garcia would go anywhere he had a chance to play, e.g. The UFL

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True. I don’t think he would necessarily say ‘no’ to an NFL team where he can essentially walk in and start simply because they happen to be playing the steelers that week.

by johnnyphoenix on Oct 11, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno. I see him in the UFL as trying to try out for a competitor. If he would go here, I would be fine with that I guess…

However, i don’t think he would and there are guys right now in the UFL playing better, namely McCown and Culpepper…who are both also younger.

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia is awful. He’s not in the UFL on accident people. Besides – he hated playing in Cleveland before so I doubt he would want to come back. Especially to be cannon fodder to the Stealers.

by browndawgbacker on Oct 12, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Browns> UFL.

This doesn’t matter regardless since McCoy is now the future but still.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently our offensive line sucks now (3 injuries to 2 QB ankles), which makes putting an old, statuesque guy like warner something akin to sub-optimal.

but seriously … wtf is going on w/ joe thomas and steinbach? the line played well against balti and cincy, but tb/kc/atl have all abused our line, and thomas in particular (i believe all 3 qb injuries have come off the left side).

does 73 suck now?

/overreaction

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 11, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

QBs getting hurt=/=Bad O-Line. In fact, in pass protection we were rated top 5 going into this week.

No. only Atlanta seriously abused our line. Our line was fine against TB and KC.

I definitely agree that it would be an overreaction. just one bad game.

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think Ratliff would be the best choice if Wallace can’t go.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

This whole conversation is just depressing.

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by Chemo on Oct 11, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Citing a league source, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that Seneca Wallace has been diagnosed with a high right ankle sprain.
The Browns plan to put Wallace on an “aggressive rehabilitation program” to try to get him ready to start at Pittsburgh in Week 6, but that seems like quite a long shot. Wallace’s strengths are his ability to move outside the pocket and create with his legs. He won’t be able to with a high ankle sprain. The Plain Dealer suggests that the Browns might sign longtime Eric Mangini favorite Brett Ratliff off the Patriots’ practice squad.

Rotoworld.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

at least Ratliff can lead a fourth quarter drive.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone’s going to have to define what an ‘agressive’ rehab program would be, and if that works why wouldn’t that just be regular rehab?

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 11, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It probably involves jumping into rehab that wouldn’t normally be attempted until the injury has healed to a certain point (e.g. “can walk without pain”).

It isn’t normal rehab because it probably involves a certain amount of discomfort and a risk of furthering the injury/slowing healing/setting the athlete back in rehab.

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by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

High ankle sprains are pretty nasty.

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by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that the UFL contract was binding and that those guys have to finish the regular season at least. That’d rule out Garcia and Culpepper.

Im contractually obligated to say we should go get Brodie Croyle.

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by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be interesting to see someone challenge that clause though.

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No ones ever challenged the Croyle Mancrush Clause before.

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by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha…

Considering whose out there, I would go after him if we can’t get a UFL guy.

Croyle in his weaknesses reminds me a lot of wallace. He is indecisive, holds onto the ball too long, not great at reading a D or going through his progressions, not great at calling audibles.

However, croyle can be accurate, athletic and have nice zip on the ball (like wallace)

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Croyle’s also 6’2. His contract is up at the end of this year and I dont think KC’s gonna try and keep him, so they might think about trading him just to get some value out of him as opposed to just letting him fly.

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by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you were implying that they released him or something.

If we can get him for cheap and the UFL guys are off limits, i wouldn’t mind.

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that the UFL contract was binding and that those guys have to finish the regular season at least.

That a contract is “binding” is the very definition of a contract — if it is not binding then it is just a gratuitous set of promises that are not enforceable in a court. The fact that UFL contracts are binding does not mean that the player can’t sign with the NFL. If an NFL team wants to sign a UFL player, it can buy the contract directly from the UFL team and then sign the player to an NFL-compliant contract. Or the team can sign the player directly and, as part of the signing, contract with the player to indemnify them for damages the player must pay for breaching the contract. What cannot happen is that a court could order a player to play for the UFL team — the 13th Amendment to the US Constitution does not allow the State to order people to work. In another world, the court could order the player to play for no one but that would not happen in the real world where courts don’t like to do that.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the UFL really wanted to keep their players from the NFL, I think they could. Aren’t non-compete clauses generally enforceable? (I could be wrong, its been years since I’ve taken Employment law).

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Binding in practice as opposed to in theory.

Players get in and out of long-term “binding” contracts regularly. Didn’t realize it was such a sensitive issue for you.

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by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lawyer

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah contracts in sports shouldn’t be called contracts because they are very often not adhered to.

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by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

they are also not legally binding. a team couldn’t take a player to court over his contract. they could punish him according to the CBA, which is legally binding, but if an NFL player wanted to go play in canada, I’m pretty sure the NFL has no legal recourse other than fining him.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again I ask, aren’t non-compete clauses common practice… and enforceable at law?

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 12, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but completely and utterly negotiable.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 12, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course. They can be bought out, but it doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 12, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are correct, they are common and enforceable.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was assuming the two leagues don’t have any type of agreement. A player’s contract is not a legally binding document.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it is.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 13, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it’s not.

I don’t see how Coffee could of just retired whenever the hell he pleased then. the word “contract” is just a term in all this.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not going to explain contract law to you.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry SB, you’re wrong on this one.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 14, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like what I’ve been hearing about in corporate America when companies default on loans. I think the word ‘contract’ is just a placebo in many cases.

by JustBob on Oct 12, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ratty all the way.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If they start Ratliffe over Colt this team is truly pathetic.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be ridiculously stupid to put McCoy in there.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is so much less pressure for a young QB when he has to start because of injury rather than because of the starters poor performance so I would love to see Colt start if Wallace can’t, just wish it wasn’t against the steelers. I really wish we had Troy Smith right now.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ooo… Troy Smith… Any chance we could get him from the Ravens? That’d be an intriguing option.

by shep615 on Oct 11, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t the Ravens ship him elsewhere?

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by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s behind Smith and Carr on the niners depth chart, I think.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I wonder if they would give him up. The Ravens cut him before the season. Honestly he would be the best option for the niners and he would be a great pickup for us. He’s like Wallace, but played better in college.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Niners have a depth chart?

by discoinferno083 on Oct 11, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

this would be worse than starting ratliff. by far.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 11, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost wish the Browns could actually get Troy Smith one of these years, so that he could flame out quickly and everybody would stop talking about him.

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by Chemo on Oct 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I won’t stop talking about him. He was the best QB to play for my favorite NCAA team in my life time and possible the entire storied program. He is also from Cleveland, and I believe has stated how special it would be if he ever got the chance to play with the Browns.

Would his size and skills translate to NFL success? Until I’m shown otherwise, I think he could be at least as good as Seneca Wallace and probably closer to Doug Flutie. But that doesn’t matter. As long as we are having to match offers to make sure we have Brett freaking Ratliff on the roster, anyone with an arm and two legs is a candidate to get a spot on our QB depth chart.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 13, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

great point. well said.

he would probably be the best qb the browns have had on the roster since they returned if he joined the team tomorrow.

/low bar

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he would not be better than Tim Couch was.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 14, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m totally against the Browns signing anyone from Cleveland, the Cleveland area, or Ohio State to play quarterback. Between the nauseating ‘hometown hero’ stories and three years worth of the homers in the stands on Sundays chanting for Quinn, I’m through with local talent.

Also: Troy Smith wasn’t all that great. Ted Ginn won that Heisman for him.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quinn is from the Columbus area, I’m pretty sure right?

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I meant to include ‘lifelong Browns fans’ in the list of people I don’t want as quarterback.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you hated Kosar I assume, correct?

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can honestly say I don’t want Bernie Kosar as our starting QB, so I agree with golan.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 14, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Did I say anything about the present?

Kosar was a Browns fan before he became our starting QB.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Troy Smith was that great. Ted Ginn was a guy that could run fast in a straight line. Nothing more.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why in the NFL, his return abilty>>>>>>>>>>>>than his WR skills.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

that could run extremely fast in a straight line

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by rufio on Oct 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, prediction: if Pryor is not dumb and stays his senior year, he will be better than Smith.

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by rufio on Oct 14, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Pryor understands that his Senior year is vital to his eventual Pro days.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, good point, I agree.

by Western Reserve on Oct 14, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely has the potential to be better than Smith.

Though I think the Smith story has a special mystique in that he came in as a 3 star “athlete” last recruit signed in his class that returned kicks and played special teams as a freshman to playing three incredibly games against Michigan, winning a Heisman and leading the team to a National title game.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

His extra 5 inches of height and his 4.3 speed give him a significant advantage from the start. He’s built like an NFL quarterback.

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by woodsmeister on Oct 15, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

very true.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appeal to emotion much?

by Western Reserve on Oct 14, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, its the lawyer in me or maybe the political guy in me. I’ve never tried a case before a jury, but if I did…

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. Hey, fair enough. You obviously like the guy and have some fond memories. I think any sports fan can relate to that.

by Western Reserve on Oct 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fallacy Alert.

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by bross09 on Oct 14, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been waiting for a team to give him a chance, to see what he can do. I think he would work out in cleveland but it would be rough for him to just jump right in.

by MkBrwn on Oct 12, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s in San Francisco now. Heck, he might be in line to play there at this point! What about Kellen Clemens?

by NM Dawg on Oct 11, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Troy Smith, that is. Reply fail.

by NM Dawg on Oct 11, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesnt matter now....

At 3:37 pm Colt McCoy was named the starter…..

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

this should be interesting….

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by davus on Oct 11, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

this could be painful….please Football Gods dont let McCoy get Tim Couched…..or David Carr’d

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ratty will be the starter come week 7.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am so happy that our team has enough confidence to do this. I thought for sure they’ld puss out and start Ratliffe.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a mistake.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Ratliff – QB – CLE
Browns signed QB Brett Ratliff off the Patriots’ practice squad. Oct. 11 – 3:35 pm et.

from the rotoworld thingy.

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by davus on Oct 11, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

So who’s getting waived or released now?

by NM Dawg on Oct 11, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably one of the linebackers. maybe titus brown?

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by davus on Oct 11, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d bet it’s Aiken.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

W00F! Ratty FTW!

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by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s signed to back up McCoy.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ratliff backing up a starting McCoy! Wow, forget everything we learned about the passing game in the last 5 weeks.

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Geez. Go figure we take McCoy to have him sit for a year and now he’s going to have to start Sunday probably.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care all that much about this week’s game (note: a big, fat lie), but what does it mean for Colt’s development? I’m worried that it won’t be good.

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also! A little strange that Mangini is already announcing which of the two will start. He never does that.

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Mangini announced that. I think Ratliff did.

by NM Dawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ugh, I know. I guess we can just hope that he does alright and doesn’t lose the game for us.

Hey, maybe he’ll do decently. You never know.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I;m not certain that he will have the chance to lose the game, even if he starts…

by 9James on Oct 12, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is where I am. I don’t like it because I don’t think its necessarily good for McCoy. And that is frankly more important than this game. But it doesn’t sound like we have a choice.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be worse for him if we said we are going to sign someone else rather than let him play. He’s third on the depth chart because we thought he was the third best guy available to start.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s third on the depth chart because we thought he was the third best guy available to start.

I’m not sure that’s true. he certainly didn’t out-perform Ratliff in the preseason, I think the reason McCoy stuck on the team was because he’s younger than Ratliff and has a higher ceiling. neither of those things make him a better option to start sunday.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

but from what we have seen with ratliff, if he was the 3rd best guy available and colt was 4th (in the preseason) the difference was marginal at best.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn’t my point. my point was that you can’t assume McCoy is a better option to start this week just because he stuck on the roster.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that he didn’t really outperform ratliff was mostly kept because of his higher season, but at the same time ratliff didn’t really outperform him.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to lay off the booze.

"Have you ever thought about love????"
-bross09

by Chemo on Oct 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

drugs are bad.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? (and above to Chemo)

So I am on drugs b/c ratliff was not clearly the better QB IMO?

He was pedestrian at best this preseason and last season he was just bad. the only time he has looked at all like he could be a competent NFL starter was when he was with the Jets and played here.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 13, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is also like 10 times the athlete.

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by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can probably run faster than Ratliff, but have you seen Ratliff’s arm? he had the best arm on the team in camp. McCoy has a very good chance of turning out better than Ratliff, but as of a month or two ago he wasn’t there yet.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn’t there but was close.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, the difference between the two was negligible.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has run in the 4.6 range and is very mobile. I too am unsure of his arm strength. But if his arm is adequate – he has all the athletic skills and intangibles to be an extremely good QB. I am hoping that Holmgren personally verified his arm strength before drafting.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 12, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This experience and his development depend on his mental fortitude. Any QB worth his salt would take this opportunity, success or complete failure, and learn loads from it. If a failure this week derails his development then we’ve got a roster spot being poorly utilized.

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Oct 11, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 11, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking real game experience in this particular situation is going to be nothing but good for McCoy’s development. He’ll get real game-speed experience and the expectations are low, low, low. Coming in for injuries is a lot different then being named the starter over other players at the first of the year or after poor performance by someone. I say this will help us to know if he can cut it and this is something that would be NICE to know this year. Not that we can make any definite decisions but we’ll know more than we did before. Look for a highly simplified offense (not that it has been particularly complicated to this point).

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Oct 11, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It happens, let’s see how he does

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little bit excited about it. That excitement will probably be gone at 1:01 on Sunday.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, we need to keep reminding ourselves no matter what happens, he is a rookie so either he’ll impress us with an average or better performance or he’ll totally suck and we’ll remind ourselves that he’s a rookie and our veterans don’t play much better.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We’ll see a Mangini running game.
He’s won with it before.
Colt can handoff as well as Quinn and DA, no?

by tribe71 on Oct 11, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just not so sure we’re healthy enough at RB to win like that…

by shep615 on Oct 11, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we protect him, give him short throws, build his confidence early, keep him on the move and run the ball right down the Steelers throat, we can win this game. Hell, we beat these scrubs with Quinn last season.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, I am not a fan of shortening the throwing game to keep everything from -5 to 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. We saw that gameplan last year at times, and it was a disaster.

by dgcambridge on Oct 11, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s been our gameplan with Wallace under center.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems like our gameplan with everyone except DA.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because DA has been the only QB we’ve had that has a legit arm. Besides Ratty.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I am really interested in seeing how Colt does. I can’t imagine that there would be much pressure on Colt, besides the whole first start thing, because I can’t honestly say that we’ve gotten much out of the QB position this year anyway.

I’m much more interested in seeing Colt play this week, than seeing us lose by field goals every week. Not that i wanted Colt to play this year, but i I think it will at least provide some football excitement. With as well as our D and running game has been these injuries could be a good thing. We could quite possibly get a chance to see if our running game can carry the team like they did at the end of last year and we can also see how well our D can hold up under extreme pressure

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polamalu vs McCoy. Not feeling good about this.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polamalu vs McCoy any of our QBs. Not feeling good about this.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If nothing else, we’ll get to see just how resilient the kid is.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone noticed how quiet Holmgren & Heckert have been so far?

by sleepy042 on Oct 11, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know if the muni lots seriously didn’t open until 7? I saw that one report and haven’t heard anything else. I was supposed to be up there tailgating yesterday, but plans changed.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not too surprising. Holmgren is probably letting Mangini play this year out (or at least first 2/3 of the year), and then will evaluate Mangini and staff quite closely.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man the guy on the radio was just talking about how we could have had Sanchez.

by HenryDawg on Oct 11, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

ignore him. he is trolling for lulz

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few of the broadcasters are going to say that. Honestly, I never cared much for Sanchez nor did I really think he was top first round material. I would have liked getting a little more for our team than what we did when we sent the 5’th pick to NYJ, but I think most everyone here would agree that getting Alex Mack was a great pick-up for the team.

Stuckey watch: At least 10/30. Not sure at the moment. Point is, he's on pace to win me the bet.

by BrownDawg1409 on Oct 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side, if Colt leads us to victory, he could quickly become a hero.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

This

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 11, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

great, then even if he sucked the rest of his career we would have people clamoring for him to start every game, just like Quinn.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few comments on WFNY put it nicely.

“I’m getting nauseated by all the overwrought hand-wringing here. McCoy’s a big boy. He’s not the first rookie to fill in for an injured starter and he won’t be the last. Some of you guys are in serious need of a grip. We’re not supposed to win this game anyway, so what’s the big deal? Calm down, already.”

“We have the Steelers right where we want them.” (I just put that one in because it made me laugh.)

“I think we can all agree that this is earlier than any of us wanted to see McCoy, but it’s reality so we might as well embrace things. At least he’ll have a full week of practice to prepare, the coaches can game plan with him in mind, and there is really no pressure because no one expects the Browns to win or for him to even survive against the Steeler D. So, Colt gets a big taste of life in the NFL this weekend. As long as he doesn’t get mentally or physically scarred, this could be a good thing.”

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have the Steelers right where we want them.

Was the username mooncamping?

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Oct 11, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least he’ll have a full week of practice to prepare, the coaches can game plan with him in mind

this is an important point.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ like a million

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially since the Steelers have been game planning for not Mccoy for a week.

we tricked them!

by discoinferno083 on Oct 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emily522… Right on the nose! I was going to say the exact thing. Of course no one wanted McCoy to be playing this soon, especially against the Steelers, but he is our best option at this point if Wallace can’t go. Lets just hope Hillis is ok, and if not, Harrison and Davis has got to step it up. And the o-line, which was non existant last Sunday has to do thier jobs and protect McCoy, and open holes. Defense needs to pick it up too, even though they have played pretty well so far this season. It’s the Steelers!, anything can happen.

by RUSSELL S on Oct 11, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree – there’s no reason we can’t pull out a victory on Sunday. We have been playing well on defense – if we keep the TOs to a minimum we have a chance at a W. Worst-case scenario, we at least get a look a Colt.

Is this the week that Cribbs has a return for 6? Can Fujita score another sack/fumble combo? Will Kenyon Coleman continue to be in the right place at the right time? Can we make it 3 blocked FGs in 3 games? Stay tuned Browns fans.

LMAO @ the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.

by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

there’s no reason we can’t pull out a victory on Sunday

well, there are lots of reasons we can’t pull out a victory on Sunday, but i like the optimism.

what’s the over under on snaps w/ cribbs at qb? 10? 12.5?

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 11, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I can say is – Upsets: they happen

by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weren’t there like 4 of them last weekend? More?

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

cribbs at qb

should take about 20….and throw deep a couple times

by JDawg in Cbus on Oct 12, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cribbs can’t throw deep in the NFL.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cribbs couldn’t throw deep at Kent St.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Oct 12, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There, apparently, is a trend of KSU QBs becoming good WRs…

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep…

they were both dual threats too (and Julian Edelman I think broke a lot of Cribbs’ KSU records)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

REC

Not only do I totally agree with this, but the reference made me laugh.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Germans?….Forget it, he’s rolling.

haha, it’s monday night and i’m ready for some optimism! Thank you Bernie.

by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys wont like this, but Saban made the same comparison in his first year as HC at Alabama when the Tide dropped their homecoming game to UL-Monroe.

In the words of the great Jon Foreman: “Failure and opposition award us opportunities that success and support cannot.”

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in that case we have plenty of opportunities, I guess.

by johnnyphoenix on Oct 11, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now your gettin it.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Ben won’t be playing. He’ll get suspended after a night of making it rain on Saturday.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering when someone was going to bring that quote up again.

Stuckey watch: At least 10/30. Not sure at the moment. Point is, he's on pace to win me the bet.

by BrownDawg1409 on Oct 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

cribbs runs one..(two?) back.

by discoinferno083 on Oct 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Let’s get it on!

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

  • rocking back and forth in the corner of my room.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Oct 11, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

you know what? forget it, the people saying McCoy should be ok are right. If he gets his ass handed to him sunday so what? if he can’t handle it then he won’t be around for the super bowl anyway.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Right. I hope we get to see the 2nd Coming of Bernie, but if we see rookie level competence orchestrating ‘fat ass up the middle’, I’ll be content.

by tribe71 on Oct 11, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what, I think Colt is gonna do just fine. He may have some rough patches and make some mistakes, but I think he is gonna surprise us.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m kind of hesitant to think this too. Hoping for the best! And really, he’s facing little to no pressure to deliver a win. We’re not expected to win and frankly, he’s expected to crap his pants.

People talk about Tebow wanting to prove the doubters wrong. I bet Colt is the same way. And if not, he doesn’t belong on any NFL roster.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that his facing the best defense in the NFL. Anything else after that will feel much, much slower.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that his facing the best defense safety in the NFL. Anything else after that will feel much, much slower.

That D is nothing without Polamolu.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Polamalu playing?

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume the best D to be well rounded, not heavy on one position.

I’d do not consider them the best but definitely a good measuring stick for Colt.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

One player does not make a defense great. The Steelers are much more than just Polamalu.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they really aren’t.

Polamolu does indeed make that D great.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares if they need Polomolu. He makes the rest of his team better just by being on the field. Whether or not they need Polamolu, he’ll be there Sunday, most likely giving us fits.

By the way, I don’t know how to spell Palomulu, so…yea.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry about that … i haven’t been here in a while, and that was a joke that bounced around here about a year ago.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, you are new.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since about a month before the draft.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know this wonderful site existed before that.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like you’ve been here longer.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha I swear I haven’t. I actually just looked at my join date since you had me second guessing myself. March 17, so not even a month before.

I guess I just talk a lot (if ya haven’t noticed).

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would too if I was stuck in PA…

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not a bad thing. I’ve been here a year and have 6,000 comments… mostly from game threads though.

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You trump me and I’ve been here a year and a half o.0

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trump as in comments/time/

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s call it even guys.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

? We aren’t arguing if that’s what you’re alluding to/

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was supposed to be a joke. Got to love the internet.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hm, maybe that sarcasm font had some merit…

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I have some catching up to do.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

go to the archives and check out the DBN Glossary post. it’ll help out.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you seriously that new?

kotnkus(sp?) is a joke on how to spell, well, kotnkus(sp?) while he was GM.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

For all two days of it.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m fairly hog certain you’re too new to understand it…

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their defensive production did suffer last year without him. They’re D was still good but not as good.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were #5 in overall defense last year

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what does that mean, exactly?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yet, they let the Browns roll them last year and, as a result, they spent January golfing.

"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan

by woodsmeister on Oct 12, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course they won’t be as good without him, that’s undeniable. But to suggest that their entire defense is good only because of him is simply ridiculous. They have plenty of other good players on their defense and a great coordinator.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 11, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polamalu is capable of doing things that make that entire defense better. He literally opens up options that no other player besides Ed Reed can provide a defense.

My guess is that (taking SB’s typical hyperbole into account) this was more or less the original point. Of course you are right to disagree with the hyperbole, but you are arguing with seriousness against someone who is not being serious.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

golan and anyone interested, but Eric Wright’s dad is over at the OBR making excuses and throwing our safeties under the bus trying to absolve his son from his bad plays. It’s a pretty entertaining read.

OBR His tag is nickelbacker.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t believe he likes that crappy band. Or maybe he feels that should be his son’s new position?

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

RECtified

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Oct 11, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome. Thanks for the link.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats really his dad?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his responses initially were not too far off the target, the conversation deteriorated into semantics and people arguing about different things though.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with his belief that Haden has to be starting right away or else he is a reach. 100% disagree

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. Pretty stupid argument. He doesn’t need to worry, Haden will be starting ahead of his boy soon.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he said if Haden was good enough he would be fine if he had came in and started over Wright.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corner from my experience watching is not a position where you come in right away and succeed in the pros.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My response above was directed towards the he doesn’t need to worry, Haden will be starting ahead of his boy soon.

I don’t think he stated he would have a problem with that. He actually stated he would expect that and would be fine with it.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I read it, and I agreed that I disagreed.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking you’re missing the point of my response.

This is what he said in regards to Haden taking Wright’s spot.

I wouldn’t have a problem if joe coming in from day 1 and started over Eric.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, but I don’t think that just because he didn’t start over him day 1 he is a reach.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine I was just saying in that response that’s not what I was saying or addressing. I think Haden was a good pick, but do I wish we could have gotten a player that could have had a greater impact this season? Yeah, but I don’t really see who we would have taken who would have done so. Do I think we should have moved up like he says? No, I would have much rather preferred to move down, but even then I still think I like getting Haden where we got him.

I don’t think Haden is a for sure reach like Mr. Wright does, but I also think after Berry was selected we were stuck in no mans land with our pick and that Haden was the best available player and that’s why we took him.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haden has been soo close to a couple picks. Give him some time, he’ll make his plays.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I believe in Haden, don’t worry about that. I actually think we’ll see him start getting more chances to play out wide here coming up.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

As he develops, it will be nice to see how we can rotate these guys. Got to believe in Rex.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Rob.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit, I’m watching the Jets.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked seeing him get a chance on TO. I also liked seeing his special team play this week. I think he’s contributing more and more each week and with so many teams going with 3 receiver sets I think it allows Haden to get valuable experience on the field playing.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get sick of hearing how he shouldn’t be playing special teams. Did you hear the announcers ask why he was on special teams on the first kick off last week?

I think when you have a guy making plays, you play him.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I would question it if he weren’t absolutely awesome on teams.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he overextended himself on that point.

 I think he was trying to say that he felt we had two quality corners, which is definitely a very debatable view, and that it was a corner heavy draft so he felt that we didn’t need to reach for any corner at 7 and that if we were going to do so that corner should be starting over what we have or he believes in essence we drafted a nickel back at 7.

I think we drafted more than a nickel guy in Haden and that yes we have two guys that are pretty good at corner. I also think Haden will take one of the two corner spots by next season at the latest. However I can see his point that he feels we should have gotten a player who could have an “impact” this year at the 7 position.

I think he just poorly worded his view and mixed in some debatable “opinion” as fact, which some jumped on because he’s Wrights father, instead of really addressing what he was saying.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess where he is wrong is that Heckert is not looking for the best guy for THIS season and he shouldn’t be. It should be a longer-term view.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that’s kind of what I just said in response to SiP above. I think Mr. Wright’s view is clouded by his evaluation of his son’s talent. However I do think he has a point that it would have been preferable to get a guy that is the best for this season and the long-term. Meaning a more immediate impact. Unfortunately I don’t think that guy was available at our position which makes his serves to seriously undermine his point in the context of discussing whether or not we reached on Haden.

Which by the way, if I remember correctly, there were many people who were against taking Haden at 7 if we were unable to get Berry. Which was my whole point in saying that initially his comments weren’t that far off target.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes his

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we blitz the hell out of Ben this week. Even more than we’ve been doing so far this year, if it’s possible.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I suggest everyone find Moon’s photo montage of Colt McCoy to get themselves pumped for Sunday.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I forgot about this. Amazing.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 12, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check this, Colt McCoy and a speed boat

Classic.

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by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!

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by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colt McCoy brings heaven to earth.

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be a bass fishing boat. Maybe it’s bigger and faster in Texas though…but on Lake Erie that’s a bass boat.

by browndawgbacker on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bass boats go as fast if not faster than cigar boats.

It can be deemed a speed boat.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joshua Cribbs as Quarterback???

A possibility? He played QB in college and runs the wildcat a bit. He should know the system till maybe Wallace gets back or McCoy is ready? THOUGHTS???

by champion64 on Oct 11, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

No. Give him some snaps at QB in the Wildcat though.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

why not though? He can run, he can throw and he knows the offense? At least he is more of a total threat that McCoy (not saying he is a legitimate threat, but more so than McCoy I would be or another Quarterback not used to the system)

by champion64 on Oct 11, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cribbs can’t throw at the pro level.

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1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He already throws at the pro level. He plays quarterback from time to time. It is a stop gap measure taken till Wallace gets back or McCoy or another Quarterback gets up to speed

by champion64 on Oct 11, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

“From time to time” are the key words.

Let’s play all of the QBs on our roster before resorting to Cribbs.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s thrown 11 passes at the Pro level in six seasons.

I hardly call that anything to go off of.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

while this goes against my KSU QB love, aren’t at least two of those 11 INTs?

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t throw well at the pro level — that’s what is important.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 11, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Josh Cribbs hasn’t lined up at QB consistently for 5 years now. Even when he was a College QB, he wasn’t a particularly good one and might not have been able to make an Arena Football team with his QB skills. honestly, he is in the NFL for his speed and his physical skills.

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The good news about Colt is that people have been underestimating him his entire life. He will be focused on getting his job done and not worrying about the idiocy pouring from the south end of people´s mouths.

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by realmccoy on Oct 11, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re going to have a good week here.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get it. Sanchez and Stafford started as rookies. Bradford and Clauson are starting and an un-drafted rookie was able to keep Arizona in the game enough to pull out a win against the Saints. We are talking about the QB with the most victories in NCAA history getting a start here. The kid is no dummy, can make plays with his legs and has a mountain of intangibles….he wins. Give him a shot.

Keep in mind that it is possible he didn’t have success in the preseason because he was not given the full amount of plays even the “normal” #3 QB would have gotten. The coaching staff for some reason chose to waste 1/2 of Colt’s opportunities on Ratliff – who had almost zero chance to make the team from the minute Colt was signed. He stuck around because he was a Mangini guy. McCoy never had the opportunity to get into a rhythm in a game until very late in the pre-season. When he did – he was improving.

We are overprotective by nature just form the experiences of Couch and Quinn. Neither of which had the kind of collegiate career that McCoy had. If he comes in and gets knocked around a bit and is surprised by the speed of the game – maybe in this case it’s a good thing. He has said he’s ready to play – maybe he gets knocked down a couple of pegs. Maybe he’s mildly successful and plays next week against the Saints as well, giving Delhomme and Wallace a couple of weeks to heal.

Start McCoy, back him p with Ratty and make damn sure there’s a healthy dose of Flash package thrown in. All the more reason to get excited about Browns / Steelers week!

GO BROWNS

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 11, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m also optimistic, but I think you’re wildly exaggerating the relevance of his team’s wins in college to his potential success in the NFL.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be lying if I said I wasn’t excited about Colt starting. I’m scared about it but very excited.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, I would prefer we had a better option, but I do think it’s pretty exciting.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Was Mitchell inactive last Sunday or did he just do crap?

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought he was injured – but his name does not appear on this weeks injury report at all. I haven’t located the game day roster yet – I don’t recall seeing him on the field.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 11, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a Longhorns’ fan, so of course I’m rooting for Colt to do great, though it’s unlikely. I hope he can hold his own and at least tread water. And we can only pray that Hillis is healthy, he should sit out of practice this week to be ready to save our ass Sunday.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

So as a Longhorns fan do you believe that his success at the college level will not translate to the NFL?

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Oct 11, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random, but if you look at Colt’s facebook fan page there are a ton of people wishing him luck. He’s definitely missed. That’s for sure.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t know. I just don’t think you can assume that because he was a successful college QB he’ll be a success in the NFL. It’s a different ball game.

What I did see in college was some insane accuracy. What I’m worried about is arm strength. College CB’s aren’t as fast as NFL CB’s, as Colt may soon learn.

Long story short, I don’t know, but I’ll be the happiest Browns fan in the world if Colt turns out to be the answer to our prayers. Yes, happier than therealmccoy, who’s gone around here making Longhorns’ fans look like idiots.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think he did show an intangible leadership quality that I never saw from Brady Quinn or Jamarcus Russell in college. there was a mental fortitude in games that colt had that I liked. I don’t know how much this translates, but I am inclined to believe that guys who have this generally have a bit easier time winning in the pros.

(sam bradford for example, and I never thought jimmy clausen had it)

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by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leadership does not make you throw the ball farther.

Sam Bradford isn’t good because he was a leader. He’s good because he’s a phenomenal QB.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously he is a phenomenal QB…that wasn’t at all my point. Clausen was an excellent college QB too and he hasn’t been good so far, but time will tell whether he turns out.

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leadership does not make you throw the ball farther.

Sam Bradford isn’t good because he was a leader. He’s good because he’s a phenomenal QB.

Agree with the sentiment. Another way to put it is that Sam Bradford is a good leader because he is a phenomenal QB.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 12, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

many stat-heads say that accuracy, starts and td/int ratio are the best numbers to use in predicting college-to-pro success translation. also, that arm strength is about the most overrated attribute available for projecting qb success.

by those measures, colt’s got all the stars aligned to be pretty darn good.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 11, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

arm strength is about the most overrated attribute available for projecting qb success

This. Arm strength is like 40 times for WR’s — relevant but not even close to deserving of the attention that people give it.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 12, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Besides – if you look at Colt now on the sidelines I think he is on the Brady Quinn workout plan – he looks jacked. I’ll assume his arm strength has improved in an NFL locker room over a college locker room.

by browndawgbacker on Oct 12, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I see evidence of this? I want to see how he looks jacked like BQ… because BQ is seriously ripped.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

BQ should just ditch football and go into modeling. Seriously. He would make more money doing that than being an inactive #3 QB.

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I’ve seen him on the sidelines, I think he looked pretty much the same to me.

by Western Reserve on Oct 12, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have personally seen every snap of Colt´s Texas career twice. The only question about this kid in Texas is his arm strength. If he can make the throws, Cleveland will be very very happy. He is an incredible leader, person, and athlete that has been counted out at every level. His intangibles are off the chart. I just don´t know if he can throw an NFL out pattern.

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by realmccoy on Oct 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favre is awful now.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Moral of the story, don’t send d1ck photos to random chicks at work?

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it pretty disgusting. He’s 40 years old and he’s “sexting”. What a pig.

(If it’s true)

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s because you’re not 40. Your parents are probably sexting each other. Now random sexts to uninterested parties is disgusting at any age.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bingo.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Birds and bees. How’d you get here?

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t mean I have to go thinking about my parents in such a way.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was told a stork brought me.

You’re saying this is untrue?

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well..it depends on whether or not you prefer Krispy Kreme to Dunkin’. It’s purely a religion thing.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only have a Dunkin’, so it’s a regional thing for me.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the cult of Spudnuts?

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by Adrock2099 on Oct 12, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was hatched.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That answers which came first, the dino or the egg.

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For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for that wonderful thought.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both my parents are prudes. No way in hell their sexting each other.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

F***, they’re not their.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know anything about the Catholic church? Because I sure as hell do. No way in hell there’s any sexting going on.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish you had asked me that. Then I could reply that yes I do- 13 years at a Catholic School.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, no Catholic school for me, just CCD and church every Sunday, and now she wonders why I have the beliefs I do (I feel my religious beliefs are best not discussed here).

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused as to how the Catholic church can prevent sexting but not…but I don’t want DBN Community Guidelines violation.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, let’s not start this here…

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re prudes. Guess that’s not a “Catholic” thing, but they are and I kind of make that connection.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes though, the sheltered children of prude Catholics (not that they all are) become some of the most promiscuous.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Authoritarian vs. Permissive parenting. We just went over this in Psych 100.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take intro to psych next year. Should be interesting.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s one of the few classes I actually do find interesting. I lucked out with a good prof, but I’ve always had some interest in psychology.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nature v. Nurture?

I’m in Adolescent Psych right now. We should be seeing this quite soon.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how you could connect this to nature vs. nurture.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’ve gone and done it.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was weak but I was more bringing it up for the relevance of nurture.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, I prefer Mountain Dew to Hitler.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Mountain Dew, I finally found some 12 packs of the Typhoon flavor they stole from me. I want to kick the douches who voted for White Out in the nads. You sure as hell better not have, or I’m coming for ya.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only like Live Wire, don’t much care for anything else.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you try Typhoon??? It is spectacular.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was the least mediocre of the 3 Dewmocracy flavors they had. That lime one was atrocious.

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by Adrock2099 on Oct 12, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like regular and that’s it.

Not code red, not natural sugar, not black out, not typhoon, not white out, not livewire.

Regular.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Code Red, Typhoon, and regular for me. I kind of like Black Out. It’s just not great. I’ve had better grape soda.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that you mention it, I actually enjoyed the Black Out II (it was kind og sour). Other than that, the other flavors are acceptable, but the fact the Live Wire is liquid gold and the same price, no reason to buy any other Dew.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we have the same soda tastes.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Mountain Dew, a week ago I discovered that they finally have sold the Voltage kind in cans instead of just vending machines.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also hate Voltage.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it. I like Code Red too.

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Cherries are the bane of my existence.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The blue one? I actually forgot about that. I found it on campus the other day and it made my day.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typhoon was way better! I didn’t realize the White Out won, I was voting hard for the Typhoon.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone who would vote for “White Out in the nads” ought to be kicked in the nads.

by JustBob on Oct 12, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec not only for the obscure reference but also because I hate Mt Dew.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love that episode.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skurheg3P6I

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did my part.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cmon man, the physics was directly related.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

amazingly enough.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

what the difference is between authoritative and permissive, because thats nurture…and then I guess compare how much nature has an effect on a child as opposed to different parenting techniques.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? What’d you do google the two after we had a conversation that’s now over?

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And either way, that’s not what he meant or we would have said that. The conversation was over.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, that sucked

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love demotivational posters.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.gorillafart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/hammer-time.jpg

enjoy on your own time

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like their way to spell kotnkus(sp?)

Kp/n= kotnkus.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

you can’t ignore the imaginary part though.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely missed it and it makes perfect sense as it applies to Kotnkus(sp?)

Dude was basically imaginary.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously – no one here dated a catholic school girl in high school?! You really missed out…just saying….
Thank you St. Mary’s!

by browndawgbacker on Oct 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know this. One day you’re parents will become less guarded and you’ll learn all sorts of things about them that you never wanted to know. Bank on it.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the heads up.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what the hell is it with me and random apostrophes all of a sudden? *Your.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably just a phase.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I am almost at this point…

my dad said to me I should stop hanging out with people at hillel and go onto J-Date if I wanna meet jewish people (now that I am living at home and none of my friends are in town) because I have a better chance at getting laid that way.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

probably was…

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely was

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Oct 12, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason this makes me think of American Pie.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the character was jewish…and I am around that age. My dad is definitely not as out there as his dad though. this is the first time he and I ever talked about something like this really.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ow, my ribs hurt.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

This conversation has provided a lot of laughs tonight.

DBN- like a dysfunctional family (and I mean this in the best way possible)

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this where we say good night John Boy?

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

mine are too old to know what sexting means

by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone who is a public figure who does that is an absolute idiot. You got $40 million large – fly a person down, get a room, and don´t leave visual evidence. Will be much cheaper in the long run, and now all that charming family man supporting cancerous wife goes out the window.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 12, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately I don’t believe Favre has suffered for his actions his entire career.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moral of the story, don’t send d1ck photos to random chicks at work? anyone.

fixed.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went on Google to try to find anymore articles on this situation, and it takes me to the Steelers SBN site.

Look who has a snarky comment? Mr Malor.


Always liked Colt McCoy and it is a shame his career will probably go to dirt because he plays for Cleveland

by emily522 on Oct 11, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Could be worse. He could be playing for Pissburgh.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So Favre either has a sick spin move or Gholston is still UFL ready (which I stated a year ago in my article…)

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it would probably be very tough to tackle a 40 something year old QB who is rolling out and then throws a spin move on you, because you probably wouldn’t be expecting it. Also Favre maybe be old but he’s like a kid out there!

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until his arm falls off..

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No more sexting for him after that.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can actually see him doing this. That’s probably why he’s in this trouble now too much free time. That and he’s a douche that’s treated like a God. Always a recipe for asshattery (see James, Lebron)

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 11, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

ESPN has only made it worse. They give him the attention he craves. And this whole “sexting scandal” thing, along with the Tiger Woods’ debacle, that’s why I hate ESPN. I’m not going to boycott them because nobody does a highlight show like ESPN, but I changed the channel when they’d talk about Woods’, Favre, and dare I say it, the Decision.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Info overkill

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

On my part or ESPN’s?

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec for “asshattery”

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

same.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha that’s funny.

by StuckInPa on Oct 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Vikes win this game. Unfortunately there doesn’t appear to be any available comets in the area.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah, Jets will get the ball back and run the clock.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, didn’t see that coming.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Favre will throw a pick 6 to end the game.

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, nice.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wrote it right after ;)

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do I seem that dumb? Haha.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Favre will Favre the game away.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

He almost Favred^2.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve got a 10 point lead and Moss and the Jets D working against one another. I’m not sure what I should be rooting for.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should have played Crabtree. Can’t figure out my WR situation yet. I have a bunch of mediocre guys that have a random good week every 3 or 4.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

that does hurt

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. If nothing else, I now know that cherries are the bane of SpecialBrownies’ existence.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Much better use of the apostrophe buddy!

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for noticing!

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a joke right?

There is no s at the end of my name, nor am I plural.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

God forbid we screw up our grammar at 12:36 AM.

by emily522 on Oct 12, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

  • waits patiently for SB to catch up

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always thought you were 2 people. The flash bird is a sarcastic guy with a big sense of humor, the K is an very defensive sometimes ahole.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That may come back to haunt me.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know that function and don’t want to try it

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do people actually read through 300 comment threads the next day?

(other than the obvious answer)

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Sometimes, there really is nothing better to do…sadly.

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Oct 12, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

If i’m bored i’ll go through a game thread. That hasn’t happened yet this year though.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I might read a 100 or so, but a game thread?

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean bored. Plus the end of last was a pretty sweet time. I didn’t want that to end.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? Did you meet a Jewish girl?

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, just a Cleveland winning streak.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

/sigh. You should learn when to give something up.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My bad, I legitimately thought that was a funny joke.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t get this joke. Not offended, but confused.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Oct 12, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

REC. Yeah, this describes my morning perfectly.

by Western Reserve on Oct 12, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

you couldn’t have posted this higher, as a reply or something?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

just now reading through it. about 25% has been worthwhile. but that 25% is pure gold.

by Dawg Nuts on Oct 13, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I allowed to like the Jets? Is that against the rules?

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

According to B19K, no.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I meant no to against the rules, according to B19K.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well praise Joe Thomas.

by StuckInPa on Oct 12, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s 9:44 PM on October 11, 2010 and Braylon Edwards still su… awww well f#%$.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 12, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

A little off-topic, but I am worried that Colt’s strengths (which would probably be best served in a horizontally spread, ball control passing game) will not line up with a cautious, conservative gameplan/the “eff you we are running the ball” offense which is probably our best shot at winning the steelers game.

It will be interesting to see if the coaches can formulate an offensive plan that is cohesive and works well within itself (read: a good gameplan) instead of trying to merge two offenses that don’t really have anything to do with each other. My guess is they are tinkering right now trying to make this happen.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Oct 12, 2010 3:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Very good point. My prediction is we’ll try to play smash mouth, but the Steelers will show no respect for the pass and load the box. So we’ll end up in third and longs that Colt won’t be able to convert, and we’ll end up punting — a lot.

by Western Reserve on Oct 12, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point. This was off topic.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Matt Leinhart or however you spell it, he was ticked after AZ dumped him for DA, maybe a fire has been lit, huge chip on his shoulder…

"There's a gleam men, there's a gleam!" Marty

by Red-Right-88 on Oct 12, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Thought I saw where he got signed.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 12, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s in Houston.

Signed the day after he was cut.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

woops…

"There's a gleam men, there's a gleam!" Marty

by Red-Right-88 on Oct 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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