How do you guys do it? day in day out, support the Browns?
by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 5:14 PM EDT
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Disclaimer-I'm a steelers fan.
Where do you guys find it in yourselves to support the Browns? I mean, I can understand on weekends people may tune in to watch the Browns play-maybe theres nothing on TV, maybe its a easy way to pass time, whatever. But how do you guys find the energy to come onto this site, write and post stuff about the Browns. I mean, do the lead writers get paid (I'm not familiar with SB nation). I'm a die hard steelers fan, since I started watching football (i was 9 when we went to the first superbowl in 1995 -first for ME) and lost to the Cowboys. I cried. yes, I cried. I was nine. But since then I've stayed true, watched everygame and been heartbroken everytime till Ben came along.
But at least, in addition to nostalgia we had a chance to win the superbowl-sthe steelers had gone to the AFC championship so many more times (and the pats cheated them out of it so many more times)...yet you guys are perennial losers. Who are you fans? are you from the older generation of bygone browns success? or newer folks/? I can't comprehend it.
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by Dawg Nuts on Oct 11, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Actually, I’ll answer. We do it because we’re not front-runners. We don’t put our flags and jerseys and license plates away just because we aren’t winning. All things that can’t really be said about some other fan bases.
are you trying to prove my point? you make yourself seem instantly less intelligent by generalizing all steeler fans
I never said all steeler fans, you did. i have good friends and family that are steeler fans and not front-runners; and you make yourself seem like you’re trying to be too intelligent and superior to others with comments like this.
so how is my statement any different with the subtraction of all, or how is yours any different with the addition of all? you’re playing semantics, and then you put the delicious cherry on top by accusing me of attempting to make myself seem more intelligent.
He never said all, you did.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 13, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe you are the one having comprehension issues. Not all Steelers fans are front-runners, there are however, a shit-ton of them that are. This is all he was saying.
"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 13, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, you did not understand what he said.
It’s not about the word “All.”
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Exactly how much is a “shit-ton”, I am interested in that measuring system. Also, let’s see your numbers to prove this “shit-ton”
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
A shit-ton is an actual standard of measurement, thank you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
this is a semantic argument from someone who has no interest in the actual discussion.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
How did you gauge my interest? I could very well have a shit-ton of interest in this discussion.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
If you did, you wouldn’t have side tracked it almost completely.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I asked him to prove his numbers of there being a shit-ton of front-runner Steelers fans. I think that is relevant.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
No, it’s not. It deviates from the main point and you just wanted something to gripe about because he mentioned front – running Steeler fans.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It does not deviate at all. His main points was that there are a lot of front-runner Steelers fans. And I asked what his proof was. That could not be any more central to the main point.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s anecdotal, obviously. he can’t prove it, no studies have been done. if you couldn’t figure this out yourself I don’t know how you’re using a keyboard.
The point is he doesn’t need to prove it. it should be a given that any team that’s been successful for a number of years has a lot of bandwagon fans.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
What? No. The Steelers fanbase is golden, they’ve all been fans since the creation, even this guy, who was clearly not even born at the time! His thought was already a Steelers fan though.
Duh.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah really? Maybe he was alive then.
I’m not a Steeler fan obviously. Knew they were an NFL expansion team of sorts, didn’t know they were that young though.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re not. The Steelers predate the Browns in the NFL, having debuted in 1933. However, for most of their early history they were league doormats.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Oct 14, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, he was talking about when they finally came into dominance? This is why it made absolutely no goddamn sense, I was wondering how they were a dynasty in the ’70s but also were terrible up until then haha. And he also, to a point, proves the front runner ideal. Their “creation” was when they started winning.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, sorry about the subtlety. I live in pittsburgh and most folks here only acknowledge football’s existance after their superbowl wins.
most folks here only acknowledge football’s existance after their superbowl wins.
If this isn’t a great definition of frontrunner, I don’t know what is.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 14, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
i’m sorry that most nfl fans and the nfl in general only pay attention to the modern superbowl era. it’s not the steelers fault they won a bunch of the first superbowls.
by klompus on Oct 14, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
. it’s not the steelers fault they won a bunch of the first superbowls.
Uh, wut? I’m pretty sure that’d be the Steelers fault.
Also, if people just focus on the Superbowl era, or the Superbowl wins, what kind of fan is that? The NFL focuses on it because it’s where they generate their money. There’s no point in acknowledging the old championships, it doesn’t correlate to what they’re doing now.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what kind of fan is that? i’m 20. i’d say thats a pretty good fan that i know most storylines that have taken place in the nfl since the superbowl era began, including the 70s, 80s, 90s, etc. i know some things about the pre-SB era, but to be honest, i just can’t be arsed enough to dig up archives so i can seem more cultured. peg me a front running nfl fan, i have only paid attention to the sb era.
by klompus on Oct 14, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 million
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
most fans who are decently educated on the sport and on the history of the NFL DO pay attention to the pre super bowl era. there were some all time greats from that era that maybe the casual fan doesn’t know, but the person who is educated/passionate about football in general (not just their own team) will know a lot.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Right, so we can make blanket statements here without a shred of proof. Got it.
A shit ton of Browns fans wear ladies underwear on gamedays.
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
At least they aren’t yellow, yeesh.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, so we can make blanket statements here without a shred of proof. Got it.
And I’d assume every comment at BTSC is followed by a link to wikipedia to prove yourself, right?
Your argument is stupid and futile.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
No, but we do not have everyone on the blog supporting those comments.
I can tell your panties are extra tight today.
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I should ask the same about your guys’ obsession with tons of shit.
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
so what you’re saying is you don’t think bandwagon fans exist? this is ridiculous. I am not calling you a bandwagon fan. I am not saying most steelers fans are bandwagon fans. I am saying there are a lot of steelers fans who are bandwagon fans. in the 90s, there were a lot of bandwagon cowboy fans. in the early part of the decade, there were a lot of bandwagon patriots fans.
this is not an attack on steelers fans, just an observation of an unavoidable trend. people like a winner.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
so what you’re saying is you don’t think bandwagon fans exist?
When did I say that? I just do not believe there are a “shit-ton” of them. Every team that has had success has them, but I do not think we have loads more than anyone else or so many that it even merits having a huge discussion about.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll do what I want, thanks.
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Ever heard of the term, when you realize you’re in a hole, quit digging?
Quit digging.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not in a hole, but thanks for the advice
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not in a hole
A quarry is just another term for a giant hole.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not in a hole
TWHS
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by count'em_six on Oct 14, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
right now you have loads more than anyone else (maybe not colts/patriots) because you’ve been so good so long. You are the one that made this a huge discussion. It was pretty obvious to everyone else that the steelers have a lot of bandwagon fans.
let me be clear here: having bandwagon fans is not a bad thing. I can’t wait until the browns have bandwagon fans.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If you watch the game closely, a “shit-ton” of force is what TJ Ward is going to hit Hines Ward with this weekend.
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by Kimble_79 on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why, you want to see his smile?
Cuz he’s been hit before, and by people bigger and better than TJ Ward…and all he got as a reward is Ward’s ear-to-ear grin.
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by Blitz-burgh on Oct 15, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s hard to smile when your face is broken.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 15, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Why don't you ask Rivers...
who usually wins the face-breaking game.
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by Blitz-burgh on Oct 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We discussed this already. I’m one of the few here that loves the way Ward plays. Great hit on Rivers.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 15, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad, musta missed it
But all I’m sayin is, even if TJ, or anyone else, LIGHTS up Ward, and breaks his face….he is sitll gonna smile at you.
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by Blitz-burgh on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
how is a picture of roethlisberger relevant to all of this?
by Dawg Nuts on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Beat me to it, damn.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 15, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But when he fumbles and loses the game, he cries like a lil’ girl.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 16, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
We know them when we see them.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
why are you so paranoid about people that are fans of teams that win? if you’re so happy with your fanship, enjoy it and stop pounding your chest in pride.
We’re not paranoid. We just don’t like front-running Steelers fans, many of whom we encounter daily. Why are you so sensitive? Hitting too close to home?
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s annoying when people start rooting for a team because they’re winning, then claim to have been fans of that team for forever. Then if that team starts to lose, they jump ship and move onto the next one.
It’s also irritating to see front-running Steelers fans in Cleveland. Reverse the two teams’ success (or lack of) recently, and they’re rooting for the Browns.
uhh…attendance to steelers games did fluctuate a lot in the 90s when the team wasn’t all that great (but solid). the fluctuation was below league average (meaning they fluctuated less than the average team) but still a lot more than the browns.
Its just the nature of winning. you will get some fair weather fans. However, the fan attendance is somehow able to be good at not fluctuating in dallas.
You know what team sees the least attendance fluctuation? the browns, and its not like we are challenging for a SB every year.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
we are talking about ‘teams that win’ and people thinking that there are frontrunning steelers fans. you defend this by saying that people are paranoid about teams that win. the statistics show a 10% (about) attendance fluctuation in steelers fans which is better than the league average (during the calculated time period) of 12.7% but not as good as the browns .8% or the cowboys 1.8%.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I think the Browns fan base is incredible
There is this 72 year old guy who comes in to the bar where I watch games…he takes notes on cocktail napkins during the browns games. Says he edits them and sends them to the Browns FO. He’s a great guy to talk to, and man he loves his Browns.
Being a fan is all about loyalty, so if anyone switches sides because their team is losing, then they were never a fan to begin with.
Is that what you guys want to hear? Your fans are good? So what?
People are referring to a lot of history here, so if you want some history, read about the attendance of Steelers games from 1940-1960’ish.
And where did you get your info if I may ask? Show me where it says the Steelers season ticket sales and/or attendance fluctuated in the 90’s.
The Steelers have tradition and thats what draws new fans that are passionate about football and honor.
I have never personally met any Steeler fan that just “hopped on” recently, and I graduated high school in the 80’s. Met a lot of fans through the 80’s and they’re still same fans that are around now. And they are just as disgusted as everyone here by fairweather fans, no matter WHAT team they’re on.
If I met a wagon jumper, I would not even speak to that person. They havn’t earned the right to call themselves a fan of anything, let alone the football team they just started watching.
We all have our bad times, but the more punches to the gut you take as a fan, the SWEETER it is when you climb your way to the top.
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by Blitz-burgh on Oct 15, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll pound my chest when I find it appropriate, thank you very much.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Hmmmm
So that leaves, “On the toilet” and “Finished complete sentence”…… :)
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I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to risk a chest pound when I am on the pot.
Last year I chose “after the Browns beat the steelers when they were still in playoff contention”.
Stop trolling.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
pretty offensive to call someone a troll when all they did was make a sarcastic comment. he even put the nonserious smiley face at the end of the comment. you on the other hand, want to escalate things with a rather serious jab. i think that trolls like to escalate things, right?
Oh, I didn’t know that smileys make people non trolls.
If you don’t think he escalated the situation by saying he pumps his chest on the toilet, then I don’t know what to say.
How about an emoticon? o.O
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i think that rufio’s interpretation of his intent escalated the situation. 58 said late in this post that he was trying to be chill and this that and the other. you know, the typical diplomatic bullshit you have to say whenever you go somewhere. that should be enough evidence, combined with the smiley, that he did not intend to escalate the situation.
however, there is no confusing what he meant when he said "after the Browns beat the steelers when they were still in playoff contention"
What Browns fan didn’t want to beat their damn chest after that? It was a retort to a trolled comment and a very good example at that.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
so you deviate from the point and then ignore everything i’ve said. pretty much the m.o. around here
no one is making you post here.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so you deviate from the point and then ignore everything i’ve said. pretty much the m.o. around here
1. Pot calling the kettle black.
2. I answered your statement about what he meant when he said blah, blah, blah. Only Rufio knows what he meant, and the guys comment was basically asking for it. Should he have said the Bengals game instead? Would you have stopped whining then?
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Easiest question we’ve had from a visistor here. A real fan supports their team win or lose. Even asking that question makes your fanshipseem like a joke.
+2
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It’s called Loyalty – we support our hometown teams.
by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I don’t understand your question, please elaborate.
by da36chamberz on Oct 13, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn’t say anything of the sort. he said we are loyal to cleveland teams. and thats why most of us are fans of the browns (if they aren’t our hometown team now, they were likely our hometown team at some point or a relative’s hometown team)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
thats cool too…I never meant to suggest we could only have hometown fans.
by da36chamberz on Oct 13, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You cried when you lost the Super Bowl?
I cried after every single loss til I was 12.
It’s in my blood, it is ultimately impossible for me to root for anyone else or not be interested in everything Browns.
I am a real fan, and this is the greatest Franchise in sports. Next question
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by rose_11 on Oct 11, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
It’s in my blood, it is ultimately impossible for me to root for anyone else or not be interested in everything Browns.
This is me in a nutshell. I started watching sports in ‘85 and saw the best of times for the Browns. Didn’t take long before I hated division rivals and “Bucky” and the Broncos. When the Browns left town, there was no way I could root for anyone else. The expansion team has been bad. But true fans don’t abandon in the hard times.
And as far as fans of the game of football are concerned… they know the important place the Browns have had in the history and evolution of the sport. Bill Walsh developed the West Coast Offense, but he learned the principles behind it from his time under Paul Brown. The pass happy offenses we see in the NFL all have their roots in the Browns’ dynasty from the ‘40s and ’50s. Before the Browns came along, most teams relied heavily on the run.
This is our pride. This franchise was a winning franchise till they left town. It’s only a matter of time before they’re a dominant team again.
TJ Ward... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.
Why are you guys dignifying this post with responses?
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by troy145 on Oct 11, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Steelers fans no nothing about.
Please tell me that you’re typing in lingo that Steelers fans can understand.
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by Browns town on Oct 11, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/loyal?show=0&t=1286839225
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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
See also:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200912100cle.htm
http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/slideshow/13.html
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by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 11, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In other news, espn ranked steelers as the #1 fanbase…however, their methodology is kinda stupid whereas the one that ranks them 21st is much more scientific.
not only did biz journals give us the highest ranking in support, but also in difficulty.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
The one I linked to is a little dated now, but I think its the most convincing and comprehensive.
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it is probably a bit dated with some of the info. maybe if they did it again or someone else did, it would be very interesting.
I like the method they chose which seems very scientific, unlike the ESPN one which considers stuff like how much the fanbase is hated (the packers are not a ‘hated’ fanbase outside of chicago but are one of the best in the country), how creative the fans are, and how much they tailgate. none of this makes a fanbase ‘good’ in my opinion
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
As I Steeler fan myself I gotta say this entire post seems uncalled for. It’s the equivalent of someone coming on BTSC and asking why people still root for the Steelers even though Ben is a douche of a human being. Pay no mind, some people just don’t get it.
by Cannon36 on Oct 11, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I disagree. There is a huge chunk of Steelers fans that have no way to comprehend cheering for a franchise that has a down decade. If it ever happened to the Steelers, they’d become Patriots fans. Or hockey fans. Or whatever is the new vogue team or sport to root for. They don’t know loyalty because they’ve never had theirs tested.
This may not define all Steelers fans, but it defines many of them, including this guy.
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Sorry, but this has happened
From the 1995/6 season, until the 2004/5 seasons, we stunk.
Who did you root for during the 5 years Cleveland didn’t have a football team?
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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Who did you root for during the 5 years Cleveland didn’t have a football team?
Three years. Rusty Wallace.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
So terribly sorry
I don’t care enough to look it up, so I was going by memory. Obviously, it wasn’t up to standards.
Oh yes, the 95/96 season was the first good one for the Steelers since the mid 80’s.
Besides, the Browns have the most overall league championships of all the teams. AFL championships included.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So, calling me dumb makes you smart?
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I forgot. Nothing can be taken literally on the internet. No matter what is said, someone will always say “that’s not what I meant” even if it was EXACTLY what they meant.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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Oh yes, the 95/96 season was the first good one for the Steelers since the mid 80’s.
FYI: the Steelers went to the playoffs in 92, 93 and 94.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't you guys go to the playoffs in the early-ish 2000's?
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
3>1
Math.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
1>0 logic
So your team has sucked for the last few years. And? Am I supposed to feel sorry for you?
How about back in the day when nobody could beat your team? I guess we just conveniently forget about that.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that is irrelevant to your point that the browns had a playoff appearance in the last decade (comparing it to the steelers in the early 90s)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I'm not a football historian
and I’m too lazy to look most of this crap up. Mainly because it doesn’t really matter.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Facts, who needs ’em.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn right!
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't mean it didn't happen
Look, just because the Steelers are winning (sorta) right now, doesn’t mean it was always like that.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
its been like that for over 40 years
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
That's not my fault
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
not saying it has, but the people who were steelers fans when they sucked are really getting up there and their numbers are starting to dwindle a bit.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Literally a dying breed
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
yep…not that any fan who became a fan in the Noll era or later is a ‘bandwagoner’. they are just the ones that had to suffer the most.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Actually, IIRC
Back before the infamous ‘74 draft, the Steelers were the bottom feeders. They couldn’t win anything.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
that was just my attempt at humor – I actually like the fact that we kicked arse in the way-back times
by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, sorry
Re-reading it now I can see the jest. I’m not at my most tolerant when I’m trying to hold my own against a bunch of rival fans. :)
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
the steelers made the playoffs every year their first 6 years under cowher (‘92-’97). Maybe you define ‘good’ as going deep into the playoffs, but the other 20 teams that miss the playoffs will define a ‘good’ season as making the playoffs.
yeah, the browns have won the most championships, but how many have they won in the last 10 years? 20? 30? 40? In their last 17 seasons (last 2 decades), they have made the playoffs TWICE. thats the same number of super bowls the steelers have won.
I hate writing this, but it just shows the ridiculousness of your argument.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Okay, I'm ridiculous
Feel better?
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually you are ridiculous.
the steelers are the best playoff team in NFL history with a .608 winning % and 6 super bowl wins. The only other team with at least 50 playoff games played (the steelers have 51) are the cowboys.
the browns are historically not a good playoff team and have at times, struggled to get to the playoffs. the only team who have played at least 350-400 regular season games in the NFL (around how many the browns have) and have less playoff games played are the lions.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
And all this means what?
All I see you proving is that the Steelers are historically the better team.
What exactly is your point here? Or are you just arguing to argue with a Shittsburgh Squealer fan?
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
your argument was saying that if anything, the browns were better b/c they had 8 championships. this just makes that irrelevant.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Man, it wasn't even an argument
Yeesh. I was just pointing it out.
I don’t know how I can convince you guys (and girls) that I’m not trying to troll, so I thought that might work. Guess I thought wrong…
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides, the Browns have the most overall league championships of all the teams. AFL championships included.
You mean AAFC — the Browns were never in the AFL.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 11, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah sorry
Wasn’t around for those years, Buckeye.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cleveland Indians and Cavaliers….was football played between 1996 and 1999?
by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure there was...
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I know there was – my point was that I didn’t root for anyone when the Browns were stolen from us. I don’t jump teams – I’m a Cleveland sports fan.
by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
but no one really went to cavs games like they went to indians. between 1996 and 1999, the highest the cavs ranked in attendance was 14th (out of 30th). the other 2 seasons, they were 16th and 25th.
It was all indians back then.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Because the Indians were kicking all kinds of ass
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, they were. they made 2 world series appearances and made the playoffs 5 straight years from 1995-1999
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
With that
I wonder just how many fans the Indians gained during that time…Out of market fans, at that.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
fair weather fans happen, but the real fans went to the games in the 80s and still support the team now
by da36chamberz on Oct 11, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The point there being
that every team that has won a championship, has bandwagon fans. Fact of life.
I wonder just how many “real” Saints fans there were during their 1-15 season, opposed to how many they have now.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yes there are always bandwagon fans for good teams. its the nature of the bandwagon fan. however, the steelers over the last 40 years have been one of the best teams in the NFL so they will inherently have a larger % of bandwagon fans than other teams.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I know, and it sucks
Because all of those asshole fans are what gives us true (semi) lifelong fans bad names.
I would say I’m a lifelong fan, but I only got into football when I was 15.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
and it seems like you didn’t just become a fan of the steelers because they are good.
(and to the point of asshole fans who are bandwagoners, even though the steelers are our rival, I think there are more cowboys fans like this)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
No I didn't
My dad was a Seahawks fan. He was quite the abusive bastard, and as a result, I didn’t want anything to do with anything he liked.
I started following the Steelers when they drafted Kordell Stewart in 94. During SB XXX, my dad was rooting for the Cowgirls. I told him I hope they lose, and he knocked the crap out of me.
I had found my team.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I cheered my ass off for the Cavs. Speak for yourself.
fka "DaytonDogg". Now a contributor to SBN's Dawgs By Nature. www.dawgsbynature.com
I am merely quoting attendance records which dropped during that period. I am not saying there was absolutely no support for the cavs, but that it wasn’t stellar.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
a) the steelers didn’t suck. maybe they sucked for a bandwagon fan but they didn’t ‘suck’
From 1997-2003, the steelers winning % was .553 (avg record: 8.5-7.5) with a +246 point differential (or +35 a year or plus 2.2 a game). the steelers are tied for 10th during that period in playoff appearances and are 7th in winning %
If you include the season beginning in 1996 (which isn’t clear), the winning % is .570 (9.1-6.9) with a 333 point differential (42 a year, and +2.63 a game). they jump up to being tied for 5th during that time in playoff appearances and were 5th in winning %.
the only teams that were better than the steelers during this period were the Titans, Ravens, vikings, Bucs, and Broncos; all of which went to at least 1 super bowl.
Yes, you ‘stunk’ but only if you have been living in a world where your team makes the playoffs every year. the steelers even had a better winning % than the Pats who made it to 3 super bowls (and won 2) from 1996-2003. With this attitude that you ‘suck’, no wonder many here think you are a bandwagon fan.
Oh, and for those 5 years we watched baseball. we are a sports town and without the browns we clung to baseball. the indians made it to 2 world series when the browns were gone and they set the MLB record for consecutive sellouts.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Yeah
Being 32, and not really caring about any sport I wasn’t playing until 1994, doesn’t make me a “bandwagon fan”.
I’m here to try and talk football, and all you guys seem to want to do is argue and try to make me look like a dumbass frontrunner.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. I never said you yourself were a frontrunner.
However, its ridiculous to claim that the Steelers sucked during those years. As you can see, even when they ‘sucked’ they were in the top 3 of the league.
Its hard for me not to consider someone who thinks being top 3rd ‘sucking’ a frontrunner however.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I've said it numerous times
Us Steeler fans are spoiled by the success of our team. So much so, that we feel if we don’t go deep in the playoffs, it’s a crappy season.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly my point. and during the stretch you have been speaking of, the steelers fanbase did waver a bit. they were 12th in the league from 1996-2005 in attendance fluctuation (measurement of how the fanbase fluctuates when the team is bad).
This whole thread is questioning why we stick with our team. you know why? because we are extremely loyal to the team. we fill our stadium every week almost to the brink and we lose almost every week. that is loyalty in a nutshell.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Okay
That’s all fine and dandy. I know you guys are loyal. It was never even a question for me.
Why is it that surag always seems to get me in trouble on another teams site? Grrr…
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
that was kinda the point of the whole fanpost though, which was what I was getting back to. You however seem to be a pretty loyal fan yourself.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I know it was the point of the post
I just hate it when folks try to lump in asswipe bandwagon fans with the true loyalists.
You know, Until today, I have held an extremely dim view of you guys on this site. Attacking without provocation, just because someone happens to be a fan of a rival team. That has been my experience over here in the past, and fully expected it this go round. Color me pleasantly surprised, actually.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah we tend not to bite unless trolled.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Real fans
would have moved to Baltimore. jk :-)
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I said just kidding
I was trying for a little levity in a pretty treacherous thread. I guess it didn’t work out so well. My bad.
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Take your levity somewhere else.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 15, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
man
what a butthole
Hines always tells us he's trying to knock somebody's soul out of their body. - Ike Taylor
What makes you think that anyone on this site would think that a joke about Art Modell ripping the soul out of our town and moving the Browns to Baltimore would be considered “levity”? Do you also kick puppies?
Saying just kidding doesn’t ever make anything right. Most adults know this.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 15, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Boo-hoo!
Mommy! tubway’s being a meanie!
Seriously, it’s been 15 years. It’s time to stop being so sensitive. Notice I didn’t say “let it go”, or “move on”.
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You guys have no idea how raw this wound is still. It’s just not a joking matter. Don’t you dare tell us what and how we should feel about the move. It’s not your place.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Oct 15, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
(sigh)
I never said that you should let it go or move on. I said it’s time to stop being so sensitive.
I don’t hate the cowpatties for Super Bowl XXX, I hate the cryboys because everyone called them a dynasty, and everyone that I knew was all of a sudden cowboys fans.
It seems that, for most of you Browns fans, hate is all there is to you. It’s quite sad, really.
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Oh yes…It’s not your place to tell me what’s funny and what’s not. It’s also not your place to censor content.
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Unless you have been through this process you have no way of knowing, nor speaking, about how fans feel with this topic.
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."--John Madden
I wouldn’t presume to know how you all feel about it.
I’m sorry Modell was a money grubbing POS, however, getting mad over a joke about something that happened 15 years ago….How is that somehow worse than making rapist jokes?
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are your parents still alive? would it be funny if I made fun of how they died?
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by notthatnoise on Oct 15, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
My mom’s alive, and you can make fun of my dead dad all you want. I do it all the time. He was a piece of shit, and died from something to do with his heart (I never cared enough to find out exactly).
Also, I fail to see how making fun of the fact that your team moved away correlates to jokes about a parents death.
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I would presume there were deaths over losing the Browns. Due to rioting, fighting, traumatic and psychological stress, etc.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 15, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow…There’s literally no words to describe how utterly ridiculous that sounds.
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Are you kidding? Some people base their lives over a sports team. Not to mention loss of jobs and something to cling on to, especially if you depend on Cleveland, no doubt the Browns may have been one of the few things you had left.
Unlikely? Extremely. Could have been entirely possible though.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 15, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I fail to see how making fun of the fact that your team moved away correlates to jokes about a parents death.
This is why you don’t get it.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 16, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re both tasteless. The difference is that we’re not doing it in your house.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 15, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
However, you guys did do it in threads written by Steelers fans over here. Don’t act all high and mighty when you yourself are just as guilty of making tasteless jokes, that barely qualify for the name “jokes”.
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those threads are on our site. have we been visiting your blog all week?
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by notthatnoise on Oct 16, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry, but I poked around BTSC as long as I could stomach it and didn’t find a gaggle of browns fans anywhere. Not saying you’re making it up, I’d just like to know where it is.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 17, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I checked out their 5 ?’s thing. Started to feel a lil’ dirty and got the hell out. Didn’t see one of our guys there.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 17, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
In all seriousness...
I did not mean to offend. Please accept my heartfelt apology.
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apology accepted. you didn’t know.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 15, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I really didn't realize
I live in LA and when the Rams an Raiders left us with no football people were pissed but they just kinda got over it. I was never a fan of either team since my family is from Pittsburgh and most of them still live there but it still sucked for a lot of people I know. I didn’t know the wound was still so raw in Cleveland. So like I said, I’m sorry and thanks for accepting.
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Damn, you Steeler fans are everywhere here in SoCal. Makes me sick!!
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
there are certain kinds of jokes that are over the line.
Like Gilbert Gottfreid making a joke he was gonna fly into the twin towers 3 weeks after 9/11
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Are you seriously going to sit there and try to convince me that a joke about 9/11 and a joke about the Browns getting snatched away to Baltimore are the same?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? How many people died when Modell moved the team?
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well to us, it was our 9/11.
The point isn’t the joke I used as an example, the point is there are certain jokes that go over the line and that was it. It also wouldn’t have been as bad if it wasn’t coming from a steelers fan too. thats just salt in the wound.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I guess I’ll remember that next time I speak to one.
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OOH – you sure showed me.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 15, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
thats like kidding and saying “I glad your mom is dead because she is burning in hell anyways”
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
The idiocy of your statement is absolutely astounding.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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the fact that you can’t comprehend how offensive some here thought this joke to be, especially coming from a steelers fan, is astounding.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Jokes are jokes. Nothing is off limits. Explain to me how rapist jokes are somehow not as bad as the one tubway told.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
a) I didn’t make the jokes
b) it is completely comparing apples to oranges. rapistberger jokes and ray lewis jokes would be similar because both guys got in trouble with the law and were found to be clean out of definitely not the cleanest circumstances.
As a joke, they are comparing apples to oranges. roethlisberger jokes are poking fun at the actions of someone while a joke like that is just making fun of an event where the party being insulted was completely innocent in the situation.
Not all jokes are created equal
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
So, according to you, rape is funny, murder is funny, but something like a team moving away from a city is not.
You’re absolutely right about one thing: Not all jokes are created equal.
I don’t think what happened to the city of Cleveland is funny, just like I don’t think rape and murder are funny.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
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didn’t say rape and murder are funny. I didn’t even condone those jokes. I just said comparing the jokes to this one are apples to oranges.
Please don’t say things that just aren’t true (like I said rape and murder are funny)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Please don’t say things that just aren’t true (like I said rape and murder are funny)
You jumped all over tubway for the “real fans would have moved to Baltimore” joke, but folks one here make
rapistberger jokes and ray lewis jokes
If those jokes are funny, having to do with the subject matter they make fun of, how is tubway’s joke not?
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 16, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, somehow this
you still don’t understand gay relations. its insulting to homosexuals to group them with steelers fans…
got 6 recs. I’m thinking that quite a few folks on here have a very messed up view of what’s funny and what’s not.
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by Steel Spike on Oct 16, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
As a Browns fan, I have to agree that jokes pertaining to a franchise moving cities is not offensive to me. It stings because I love my team and hated to see them leave, but that just means its not funny.
tubway already apologized, so what more can we ask for.
Rape and murder aren’t funny subjects either though, and they can be sensitive topics, with a greater possibility of offending.
What does offend me is that we are still arguing about this. My advice is for both sides to agree to disagree and drop it, so we can get back to talking about football.
by da36chamberz on Oct 16, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough, but how much football is REALLY going to be discussed now?
Can we actually have intelligent football talk between our two fanbases? I would sure like to.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
To answer your questions: not much, and yes.
I’d like to as well.
by da36chamberz on Oct 16, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
first of all (no point in responding to both comments), I NEVER said those jokes are funny. please stop saying shit that isn’t true. either you are a huge asshole, or just a troll, because I never said those jokes were funny and this is the 2nd time you have accused me of that. If you do it a 3rd, i will no joke flag your comment for trolling.
Second, I did not make a joke about homosexuals. you seriously must have comprehension issues or are just trying to completely misrepresent what I said. you took what I said and turned it 180 degrees.
If i say its insulting to homosexuals to group them with steelers fans, how am I making a joke about gays? for anyone who can read, it should be clear that I am making a joke about steelers fans and that making a comparison from gays to steelers is an insult to gays.
PLEASE don’t try to accuse me of making a homophobic joke. that is rude, insensitive, childish, and just plain stupid.
And it got 6 recs because it was making fun of idiots like you.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I hope this isn’t directed towards me…I just wanted the madness to stop.
by da36chamberz on Oct 16, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
If unsure what comments are directed where, press up on said comment.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 16, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks…I’ve been reading DBN for a while, but am fairly new to posting. Appreciated.
by da36chamberz on Oct 16, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
You are very good. Take whatever is said, and twist it around so you can get all butthurt about something that’s not there.
Have fun in your tiny little delusional world, sunshine.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
Ha. I am the one twisting around what you say? that is hilarious and you are the one in this delusional world. Anyone who sees this and has intelligence will see your obvious twisting of every word I say and adding words to my mouth I never said.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
This question makes no sense
How does it have any relevance to the fact that many steelers fans would be Pat or Colts fans if they started sucking?
I guess I’m wondering why you asked it
"There's nothing that cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes.
Exactly as relevant as asking whether we'd be another teams fans if our team started sucking
I guess trolling is allowed if it’s on your own site, huh?
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Who did you root for during the 5 years Cleveland didn’t have a football team?
Whoever was playing the Steelers.
by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 12, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Whoever was playing the Ravens.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Oct 12, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
From the 1995/6 season, until the 2004/5 seasons, we stunk.
I’m sure someone has already pointed out that this is simply an idiotic statement. In that span, you won the division 5/10 times.
Who did you root for during the 5 years Cleveland didn’t have a football team?
I cheered for the Browns to come back. One of my favorite part of going to Cavs and Indians games was seeing the countdown to ’99 clock in Tower City. I kinda cheered for the Packers and Bills, but mostly cheered against Baltimore and Pittsburgh and for former Buckeyes.
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Football was dead to me.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A lot of Steelers fans are also Pirates fans, so…they do. Personally, I am an Orioles fan, and that is no different.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 12, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I grew up in Berea where the Browns’ headquarters are, and delivered the news paper to Lou Groza. Being a Browns fan is just who I am. And WHEN the Browns turn things around it will feel so much better than if I bailed on them and came back only when they became good again.
We love our team. Simple as that. Unlike fake Steeler fans who just like the colors and media attention. It’s pretty bad when your biggest fan is Snoop Dog. There are soo many Steeler fans here in SoCal that can’t name 6 players on the team. Horrible fan base you guys have.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 11, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Actually, our biggest fan is the President of the United States
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
President Obama grew up in Hawaii
Click the links below for more information. :)
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw those, and the end of the second link, he does say “other than the Bears, the Steelers are probably the team thats closest to my heart”
You have a point, but whatever – I didn’t vote for the guy..lol
by da36chamberz on Oct 12, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure he loves all things Chicago.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI: Benjamin Harrison was the first sitting President to attend a major league baseball game. He watched the Cincinnati Reds beat the Washington Senators 7-4 on June 6, 1892.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
by golanbatrac on Oct 11, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, so he was a rapist.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He must have been giving a speech in Pittsburgh that day when he said that.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 11, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmiZs2stDRQ
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TZu7CPqWjE
Thanks for playing.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Browns fans, just stop replying to the to Steel Spike. He has made over 60 posts today alone, so we are pobably dealing with someone still living in their parents basement, who has nothing better to do with their life than troll blogs an comment on them, even if they aren’t related to “his” team. If we stop giving him the attention he is so desperately trying to get, like a fat chick wearing a mini skirt, he will eventually go away.
Dude, what?
Have you even read my comments, or are you just one of those fans that thinks “Oh! He’s a fan of a rival team! Kill! Kill!”?
Your attempts to belittle me only make you look smaller.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m alright with you.
I have no clue what making 60 posts in a day has to do with anything and I thought his rant was uncalled for.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Did I just get backed up by a Browns fan?
Hold on a second…I need a bit to let this sink in….
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re not a Ravens fan, so.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
stop being so ridiculous. even though I don’t agree with all of his points, I at least show him some respect as a person and don’t resort to personal attacks in lieu of anything better to say.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I appreciate it
Really, I do.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
no problem. hating for the sake of hating gets us nowhere in life.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
True dat
Unless it’s the cheatriots or the Cowgirls, or the Bungles…
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
You forgot the Ravens.
"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 12, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
In all fairness, this is a Steeler fan’s fan post. He has the right to be here.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 11, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well godamn...
I feel all warm and fuzzy all of a sudden.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re fine, bro. It’s that surag guy who is more of a moron.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 12, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He's actually done this before
I think it was the Titans site he started a rowdy-dow, and bailed, leaving me to fend for myself. Not that I mind. I LOVE a good e-fight. It just gets annoying after a while.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Alright. Some info on me. I was not trolling just surprised. I am not a bandwagon fan. I supporte the pens in all the years they sucked. I hate baseball with a passion so I never watched the pirates. I grew up in Pittsburgh so summertimes was roller hockey till middle school.
Steelers and pens fan thru and thru so I’ve never been a bandwagoner. I just cant fathom what u go thru.
I guess it’s a troll post-it didn’t seem that way at the time. I apologize
HA. You were trolling all over the Bengal site today. I don’t take this apology seriously
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 12, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, man...
I wanted to troll them so hard after that handling they got by TB…Then again, I wanted to troll them when they lost to the Browns too…I just want to troll them whenever they lose, really…
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
We may have an outcast or two, but we don’t do that.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 12, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
We stick to trolling our own site. lol
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
This.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
HA!
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Oct 12, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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I just z’d through three comments and all of them were you posting +1.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
If he used +1 three times, then he has yet to master addition…
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate the bengals
At least with a losing team you guys are a bit more circumspect. The Bungles-since carson pooper came out they’ve been moaning and groaning over him. I hate Bengals. and i hate Bungle fans.
I believe after Kimo Von Rollover pretty much destroyed Carson Palmer’s career that they are saying the same things about the Steelers.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Oct 12, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Please...
Kimo had been Palmers roommate, friend, and teammate. It wasn’t intentional. Palmer even said so.
Just sayin….:)
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The Penguins “sucked” for 3-4 years, 2002-2006. And in those years they drafted Fleury, Malkin, and Crosby. Not a real downturn period to hang your hat on.
seriously, I’m so sorry he had to go through 3 seasons of suck between Mario/Jagr and Crosby/Malkin.
As a jackets fan, I’m contractually obligated to tell you to quit whining.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve wanted to be a Blue Jackets fan for about ten years now, but it never seems to happen. I grew up rooting for the Nordiques.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
by golanbatrac on Oct 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
If ever there were a season to jump on board this is it. They’re finally joining the rest of the NHL in the post-lockout era where the trap doesn’t work. Tons of young talent (hopefully) ready to make that next step, including a Calder winner and Vezina Finalist in goal and Rick Nash, who’s always fun to watch.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t a fan in the slightest until the jackets started up.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t a fan until I went to school in buffalo. sometimes you just need a team you can root for.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Hockey was on a lot on ESPN in the early 80’s. It was the only sport they had at that time. My brother and I would sit in our room in front of a thirteen inch black-and-white tv and watch whatever game was on. Not sure how I got to the point of rooting for the Nordiques, but it turned out to be an apt choice since, like the Browns, they moved to another city and promptly won a championship.
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
if you’re the type to play video games, you can actually recreate the Nordiques in NHL 11 since their logo is included in the “create a team” mode, along with some other bygone franchises. You can even replace another team with them in any mode you choose. So if you wanted to, you could replace the Avalanche with the Nordiques and play as them in franchise mode, like the move never happened.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I never grew up in the 80s. I grew up at a time when hockey was kind of like the sport that sits in the corner and doesn’t speak unless spoken to…maybe this is a bad analogy, but you rarely see hockey anymore and it took me living in a hockey town (buffalo is pretty much canada…they are somewhat a football town too) to like and appreciate hockey.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I never grew up in the 80s.
I laughed at this.
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Hate baseball with a passion? I guess if the Pirates were the Pirates of the 90’s your tune would be different.
not really. I hate baseball because I could never find friends to play with. That and as a result I could never follow. Also, I hated baseball video games (though everyone loves them) but loved madden and NHL hockey games. Its just what I grew up with I guess. Maybe indirectly it is due to pirates sucking-because they were bad no one played baseball games? or I didnt come across as manY? I dont know. But it certainly wasnt because the Pirates sucked.
I lived in NY for 5 years and the yanks were winning all the time. I hated baseball even then, and baseball fans even more. especially yankees fans.
Everyone hates Yankee fans.
"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 13, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Why doesn’t it surpriseme that you couldn’t find any friends?
"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman
by golanbatrac on Oct 13, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Har har har
Except I was saying I couldn’t find friends who liked baseball near where I lived.
I hate baseball with a passion
you’re alright with me.
by discoinferno083 on Oct 12, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Does your name happen to be LeBron?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Naw, LeBron is bust crapping his pants now that DWade has gone down.
He actually has to do something again.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 12, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
What a moronic post. This guy does not represent us.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 12, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I am old enough to recall when the shoe was on the other foot.The Steelers was one of the worst teams in the NFL in the late 80’s early 90’s.The Browns use to kick the crap out of pit like the 51-0 beat down on opening day in 1989.
Being a Browns fan is never about how can you it is a way of life for me.Just the same as I root for the indians,Cavs,Blue Jackets and anything OSU.I am not a fair weather fan and never will be.I wear my hats for each team no matter how good or bad the team is.It is about pride not “I root for so and so because they win”
Enjoy your time on top for now.We will close the gap and we will beat you.
as a couple other people have pointed out, weren’t the steelers pretty good in the early 90s?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 12, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yep. I think he is talking about pre-1992 right at the tail end of the Chuk Noll era. the steelers weren’t good but they weren’t ‘bad’ even. they made the playoffs during that time and had a 46% winning %…so they were a slightly below average NFL team for half a decade…
Cowher came in in 1992 and went 11-5 his first year and brought the steelers success again.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Look, I'm a Pirates fan I understand what you guys are going through trying to rebuild the team
its a process and it looks like you guys are on your way to getting there, still a few years away but getting there
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the browns? we are a good QB and good WR away from being a legitimate playoff contender IMO. To really make a deep run at the playoffs, we would also need a FS too (and maybe D-Line Depth/youth).
This team is a lot closer to the playoffs then people realize and give them credit for. this is a team that has competed in every game and lost close every time…We just need a piece or two to put us over the top.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
As a Steeler Fan...
I’d like to give this OP a pink belly…go route for the Patriots surag…
Um
Or You could learn to spell. But if it’s due to typos or smartphone issues I can understand. Route? Lol you mean root.
I am entitled to my own ignorant stupid viewpoints.
I am entitled to my own ignorant stupid viewpoints.
but you are not entitled to share them here.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
until i get banned…I sure am. and since I was already pointed towards the right way on your forum, I dont think I’ll be falling into trouble with the law any time.
you suck at reading comprehension. you are allowed to share your viewpoints here, you are not entitled to it.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 14, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh...this makes no sense
I’m not entitled to it but I’m allowed? Wtf? since when did semantics come into play. you gaffed, made no sense and then decided to argue over specific definitions of the word. I have no doubt, that to defend yourself, you will go ahead and quote the exact definition of entitle to prove your point. Except you will convinently ignore the fact that entiltement and allowing are used interchangeably except in politics and legalspeak. Good job.
no, entitlement and allowed are vastly different to every human being that speaks english at a high school level. anyone who uses the two interchangeably is doing it wrong. There is a huge difference between the two words.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 16, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I think he was telling you to run a “go route” all the way to a different franchise. (hides)
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 14, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Please don't judge all Steeler fans by this post, please.
I believe in a good banter, some trash talking, poking fun, all of that…But this post does not represent us over at BTSC, Steeler fans in general, or even good sportsmanship.
Whereas I do dislike your team, I appreciate and LOVE the rivalry, which wouldn’t be so great if not for the healthy dislike.
His was a trollpost, whereas Steel Spike, Klompus and Johnny_s were all pretty level-headed and chill. Thanks for being able to carry on a good discussion with them (I arrived a little late) and having fun with it.
I do hope your team improves…I’ve said that so many times since Modell left you high and dry…but I still hope, no matter how good your team gets, we destroy you 51-0. Every. Single. Time.
Looking forward to a great weekend of football!
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by Fifty-Eight on Oct 14, 2010 5:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Really,
Because you said lots of bad words to me over on your site even though I wasn’t responding to a comment of yours. Some 20 year old was saying browns fans aren’t loyal. I said he has no idea what loyalty was since his team has been good since he’s been alive.
You thought I was challenging your loyalty, went on a rant about some charity you run that was completely unrelated, and then used a whole bunch of bad words. I’d copy it here but it goes against Chris’s rules for this site.
So I think you believe in good banter, but only when the argument favors your opinions. When it doesn’t, everyone should cover their ears.
So I think you believe in good banter, but only when the argument favors your opinions. When it doesn’t, everyone should cover their ears.
This definition should be followed by a picture of a Steeler fan.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently someone making a gross generalization about a whole entire fan base should be followed by a picture of a Brown fan.
Apparently someone making a gross generalization about a whole entire fan base
No way in hell it’s a gross generalization. Probably a little exaggerated on my part, yes, grossly generalized? Hell no.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently someone making a gross generalization about a whole entire fan base should be followed by a picture of a Brown fan.
this is a gross generalization about a whole entire fanbase.
a Brown fan.
who cares what color we are?
by Dawg Nuts on Oct 14, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Congratulations on recognizing irony.
He used the singular in referring to the Steelers fan. I elected to do the same.
Ah, so you elected to stoop down to my level, if I even did “stoop down.”
Bravo.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
and you whiffed on the irony dawg nuts stumbled over. somebody should really pick it up before more people hurt themselves on it
Your shtick went from old to terrible fairly quickly.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
your “shtick” consists of analyzing other people’s “shticks” and posting tired steeler pictures. congratulations on being the 4chan of dbn.
4chan rocks, so thank you.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good for you?
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 14, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1, the Browns have enough injuries to worry about already than to have their fans start tearing and breaking things
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by John Stephens on Oct 14, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
for the record: I have seen enough of DN’s posts to be able to judge the seriousness or not of them. when you are on a site long enough, you can do that. I believe he saw the irony but wanted to poke fun at the idea of calling a browns fan a “Brown Fan”
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
actually they are both relevant from what I gather
When he was talking about a gross generalization, to me it seemed like he was saying that us being “Brown Fans” was a gross generalization. Honestly, I don’t see anything else there that wouldn’t be that anyways.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Let me try to help you out a bit here by being very explicit.
I have two statements and he responded to both of them separately, one having to do with generalizations, and the other referring to fans in the singular. So I responded to his response with two sentences of my own, one having to do with generalizations, although it was now about irony. The second statement, again, about referring to fans in the singular.
Hence the second part having nothing to do with the first.
Got it now?
if this was all started by my comment, and I don’t really give a shit about it anymore, why do you guys?
he has to defend his criticism of you because he is right and you suck because you are a browns fan.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
It is possible to respond seriously in a post and then finish the post with something lighter. In other words the second part was obviously a joke.
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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
And btw if you were to talk to just about anybody over on our site you would discover that I am just as quick to jump on people there when they generalize about fans of other teams, specifically Browns fans.
Getting here a touch late and I am shocked at the temerity of this person to ask Browns fans en masse why we support our team. Get the hell out of here. Seriously. You want to have a conversation about what we as fans think about our team’s strategy, our draft picks or the upcoming match-up—fine. Ask a cogent, grammatically sound question and I am sure we would all be happy to oblige no matter what team you support. But to come over here with this quasi-condescending horseshit that just smacks of frat house sarcasm simply pisses me off. Beat it.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Oct 14, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
I work in advertising and am perpetually surrounded by overgrown frat boys. Believe me, they get sarcasm.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Oct 15, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, the post at the top of the thread was crap to begin with.
"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Oct 14, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That was really my point. I thought that the original post was insulting and sophomoric.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Oct 15, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant that it was going ok till Beavis and Butt-Head showed up.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 15, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
damn it
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 15, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a good freaking thread.
People need to lighten up and enjoy a good old fashion rumble every once in a while
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 16, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
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