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Happy Halloween: Bye Week Game Thread

Have a Happy Halloween everybody!

The Cleveland Browns are on a bye this week, so we'll be rooting for the Bengals and the Steelers to lose their Sunday contests (the Ravens are also on the bye). Use this thread to discuss any of the action today.

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Happy Bye Week everyone. Enjoy a Sunday without stress from our Browns.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Browns in a laugher.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bye weeks suck.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

OT- but Ditka named Joe Thmas #8 on list of scariest NFL players.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Was this on TV or is it online somewhere?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Oct 31, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I can see the Patriots game, so I can study up on next week’s opponent.

by 9James on Oct 31, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d rather watch the London game than the Bengals.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m just watching the Red Zone Channel all day.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I switched to the Jets and Green Bay.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best wishes to all for an enjoyable weekend. Colt was in Austin last night as his number 12 was retired – congratulations Colt. No Longhorn got more out of their talent, worked harder, or competed harder than Colt and I hope that those characteristics carry over and help the Browns restore their once proud tradition.

Longhorn faithful missing Colt – lose to Baylor. Yup – Baylor. Back to back losses at home to Baylor and ISU. Never take winning for granted Buckeye fans.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 31, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Never take winning for granted Buckeye fans.

Too late.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Oct 31, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Hicks playing any for you guys? Redshirting?

I remember cursing him for picking Texas over the Buckeyes. Kid’s got a ton of talent

"There's nothing that cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes.

by rose_11 on Oct 31, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is doing real well. He has played mostly at special teams, but one week a LB was hurt and he had double digit tackles, and led the defense.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deangelo Hall still nabbing picks.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. Watched a couple of plays in the Dallas vs. Jacksonville… Dallas looks BAD.

by shep615 on Oct 31, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

that’s because they are. they won’t be able to defend david garrard…. he is a pro bowl quarterback, after all.

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, they just got torched by Marcedes Lewis.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have family that are always jawing about “Them Boys”. I hope they only win one game all season.

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 1, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wacky play for Bungles’ second touchdown – defender bobbles interception and it goes right into TO’s hands.

"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan

by woodsmeister on Oct 31, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the Bengals got a gift there. Bad throw by Palmer and it should have been a pick.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw it. That was hilarious!

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not when T.O. is on your opposition’s fantasy team. That’s alright. My team was awesome this week.

by StuckInPa on Oct 31, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calvin Johnson is not human.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Suh is not human either. I’m glad Delhomme’s head stayed on his body when we played the Lions. Kid has 7 sacks this season in as many games.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Right you are.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

darn it nick folk. you’re ruining my chances at a free tim couch jersey.

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I picked up Dan Carpenter for the bye week. He has 19 fantasy points.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i picked up kitna… he is doing as well as you would expect him to do

The only reason Joe Thomas didn’t catch that ball was because the ball was too afraid to come near him.

by the_fox_and_the_browns on Oct 31, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

troy smith has been doing a good job so far

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

YES! Steve Johnson for the TD! I needed that.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Palmer just threw the game away. Cleveland is no longer in the cellar in the AFC North — been awhile.

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 31, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re still in the cellar. It’s been awhile since we had company.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We got the tiebreaker.

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

woohoo!

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

God damn. Calvin Jr. with another TD. Awesome.

by StuckInPa on Oct 31, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody watching “America’s Game?”

by StuckInPa on Oct 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

mmm…you mean the Fox 4:20 game, right? Yes, I am. At first I thought you meant the Cowboys…

by 9James on Oct 31, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, FOX was calling it America’s Game for some reason.

by StuckInPa on Oct 31, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The arrogance of marketing, perhaps

by 9James on Oct 31, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard that too; I think they just meant the game that most of America was getting.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Troy Smith’s line looks pretty good in his first start for the Niners — 12/19, 196 yards, 1 TD, 1 rushing TD in a 24-16 win. Does anyone know how long Alex Smith is going to be out? Will he get another start?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard at least a couple games, if not more.

by StuckInPa on Oct 31, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denver D, not all that impressive. He will have an easy schedule the rest of the way if he can hold onto the starting job.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they’ll give him a chance to keep the starting job for the rest of the season if he plays well, considering that Alex Smith still hasn’t done anything to show that he deserves to be the starter.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My grandma is a Bills fan, and they’re about to lose. Lindell made the FG but a time out was called, then the next kick hit the upright. It looks like the Chiefs are going to win this one.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

The Chiefs missed the FG!

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to pass to Steve Johnson!

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy I’m playing has Lee Evans, so that’s fine with me.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, Chiefs missed again!

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the Browns get pressure on Sanchez like GB did

by 9James on Oct 31, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Cowboys lost again! Are they 1-6 now?

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Worse than the Browns!

by 9James on Oct 31, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course Kenny Britt hasn’t done anything yet.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

chiefs in FG range now. i feel sorry for bills fans.

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s good, chiefs win

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT, but anyone read the article where LeBron says that he would’ve done “The Decision” differently?

It made me laugh how he said that and then just a little later he joked around saying “Oh, but it’s not too early for teams to start recruiting me for the NEXT time I’m a free agent,” and then continued to say that he would be 30 next time he’s a free agent. But oh wait- I’m a Heat now, so we’ll just see what happens.

Already thinking towards free agency. Have fun, Miami.

by shep615 on Oct 31, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel sorry for Bills fans too. They did not deserve to lose that game. KC is vastly overrated. Remember they only came away with a W from Cleveland due to the refs.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

KC has been solid.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by solid you mean barely squeaking by the worst team in the NFL at home, then yes, extremely solid.

Oakland are better than KC and should win the division.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re 4th in the league in points against on defense and 1st in rushing yards per game on offense. Solid.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn’t beat the Browns because of the refs.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like the Dolphins didn’t lose last week because of the refs. The refs gave them 3 points and they won by 2. You do the math.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with the Browns?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL games have seemed kind of boring this week. Way too many dropped passes in all of the games I’ve watched.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 31, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Red Zone Channel is perfect for these kinds of weeks.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to post the exact same thing. Minus the Redskins at Lions game, I’ve seen pedestrian football.

We need the Browns back :)

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Saints vs. Steelers will be good though.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pats should have never ditched the old uniforms.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of uniforms, Arizona’s black ones today are awesome.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed those

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like them.

I wish the Browns would wear orange and white jerseys for a game.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still want flat brown jerseys, flat brown pants, and flat brown helmets.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No such thing as too much brown…

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’d have our home uniforms, away uniforms, and win uniforms.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the uniforms aren’t to fond of you either.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every time I look at this, it screams Rob Ryan defense!

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am disappoint

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our players would look like turds.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That would kill the look. Idea here is solid flat brown. I was too lazy to remove all the left over small orange stripes.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for your sphincter.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite.

Or have the orange pants with the brown jerseys.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a dropped shadow under the letters? F**king disgusting. Also, to bright. Our regular home jerseys are about 13242 times better than these.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Letters and numbers. Fix

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have these than all brown.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously. You’re comparing your favorite to something you hate.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

More like this. With white pants.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. If the stuff is blunt with no shadowing, I like it.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize the one I posted above had the shadowing, which I don’t like either.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That picture gives them too much justice, they look bad in practical use.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see that actually. I still like the jersey like the one Colt has above.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad, I still prefer our current away uniforms.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Striped socks! Yes!

"Have you ever thought about love????"

by Chemo on Oct 31, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate these because of the shadowing on the numbers.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No orange at all, either on the shirts or the pants. Orange as the main color looks terrible.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 31, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I’m bias because I go to Clemson.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I don’t think it looks bad for Clemson, b/c it’s their thing. But I don’t want us to be the Cleveland Tigers. There is no better uniform in the NFL than our all-whites. The second best uniform is white pants and brown shirts. And I’d like a third choice, all brown, which would be an intimidating, dark look, but better than the forced “all black” of other teams (like the Ravens).

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 31, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm yeah, I agree. I like our uniforms now, but I don’t think the jerseys like McCoy’s look bad at all. But now that I look at it, the style may be more “practice” than “game” jersey.

I think the worst uniforms are the Bengals. The tiger print is ugly. Those helmets are… ew.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely agree on the Bengals.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 31, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like an all-white look with some brown highlights. Could look sweet. Or some white on white, but I doubt the league would be OK with that.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s awesome.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 31, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you. I’m glad that I am not the only one.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mess with the helmet. Never.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like the uniforms in training camp… white pants, white/orange jersey, orange helmet.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree. Solid flat brown helmets = win

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

"Have you ever thought about love????"

by Chemo on Oct 31, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm?

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one agrees with you on this ;).

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m used to that.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do not change the helmet. ever.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree. Solid flat brown helmets = win

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, the helmet has been altered 5 times in the Browns history. So this absolute of “ever” is bullsh*t.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We obviously mean don’t change the way it is now.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we’ve changed it for the throwbacks. So someone else out there doesn’t agree with this “not ever” absolute.

Personally, I love our helmets, and our current uniforms. But I also think an all brown win uniform would be badass.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer our current helmets to the throwbacks. Agree to disagree on the all brown.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless I’m mistaken, th only alterations have been to the stripes. We have always had an orange helmet without a logo. that is what I meant.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are mistaken. We used to have a white helmet. Also, “you do not change the helmet. ever.” didn’t exactly translate into “as long as it’s orange with a logo” to me.

Personally, I’d agree that we always stick with the 1961-present helmet for home and away. But I don’t mind the alterations for throwback uniforms, and I would love the alteration for the win uniforms.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

We tried Brownie on it for a bit, but it never worked so he was dropped quickly.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with him!

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright 2 against like 7 haha.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is like 3 (maybe 4) other people in this thread that said the dislike the all brown uniform.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like it with the orange helmet and original orange trim.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I think that would kill the point and would just be our original home jersey with our brown pants.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

See that looks better than all brown completely.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decent, all brown is still much better.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

BQ ruins the picture.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec.

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was exaggerating.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Steward, bring my my brown pants.”

"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan

by woodsmeister on Nov 1, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are a bit fruity, but that’s gotta be what the Pats were going for.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, watch the tail end of Tate’s TD reception. He knows what those uniforms are all about.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

WELLS WITH A TD! Yes! I needed that.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

same here. One of my games is like a cripple fight. I’m wining 46 to 39.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wining 53.5 to 39. But the guy I’m playing still has Matt Schaub, Chris Ivory, and the Steelers D left. And like I said, Kenny Britt or Zach Miller aren’t doing anything to help my lead.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve got Miller in that game. Give him time. He’s got Lynch and Mike Williams, so I’m rooting for Oakland for once in my life :)

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Britt/Zach Miller are pissing me off.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Vikings going for it on 4th and goal. Peterson will probably get it, and the guy I’m against has him. Ugh!

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

DIDN’T GET IT! YESSSSS!

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

DA is about to go in.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

This will be interesting. Hopefully it means many Beanie Wells handoffs.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have played Tampa’s defense over Seattle.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

picked up Tampa this week, I’m happy.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Britt is out with a hamstring injury.

FML!!!!

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you, Brett Favre, for rendering one of the best receivers in the history of the league useless.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the best receivers in the history of the league does a good enough job of rendering himself useless.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pound the ball into the end zone, Arizona…

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes! Steve Breaston didn’t catch the TD.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap my lead is down to 5.5. Definitely losing.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

This What Should I Do? commercial blows.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  


the face of a true champion

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Why waste time with Mathews when you have Tolbert?

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

(rhetorical question)

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Aaron Hernandez hurt / inactive?

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know, but I have Hernandez and Moss in this game and they’ve combined for 8 yards.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s all Moss because Hernandez has nothing, whatsoever. I’m not ever sure if he’s seen a snap. That’s why I thought he might be hurt or maybe inactive for some reason… I don’t know.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

There he is.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moss had a TD catch negated by pass interference. So damn. I have both Miller and Moss.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hernandez just had a catch.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohh nice! Better than nothing.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind. Holding on both sides.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Brady needs to cut his hair.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

he wants to, but his wife won’t let him. at least, that’s what he says

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the story, but it looks awful.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot of players in the league who need a haircut. The entire Packers linebacking corps, every Polynesian in the league, anyone (including Josh Cribbs) with dreadlocks and Tom Bieber.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think some people can make long hair work. Cribbs and Chris Johnson for example. Troy Polamalu not so much.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

chris johnson’s hair looks horrible.

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree, I think he makes it work.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any man who goes to a stylist is no man at all.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You call him a stylist, Johnson is likely to call him a barber.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson would be wrong.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stylist Shop?

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone leaves that chair with dreads, it is.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if you know more than 2 ways to cut hair, than you’re a stylist? Ha.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Benjarvus Green-Ellis needs a haircut.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone (including Josh Cribbs)

Don’t diss the dreads.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seattle is awful, damn it.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that’s a fumble by Berrian.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Favre just got wrecked. Again. Tavaras Jackson 1/1, 1 TD.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Chin busted wide open. Blood everywhere.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing it’s a deep cut, nothing broken as the announcers speculated.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess was correct.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad I didn’t see that!

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was carted off the field, curled up like a baby. Really feel bad for him, hope he’s alright.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t feel bad for him. he put his streak ahead of his own health and his team tonight. he’s an idiot. He didn’t deserve to get injured further, no one does, but I won’t feel bad for him.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  


If that’s the point your making than Childress is far more to blame, he’s the one who ultimately makes that call. Really, I’m certain they both thought he gave them the best shot at winning, rather than Childress trying to keep Favre’s streak alive.

Still, I don’t feel bad either. It’s a cut, and he’s playing football. There’s a bunch of players I wouldn’t feel bad for.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s something else wrong with him besides the chin injury, if you’d seem him carted off the field you would have understood where I was coming from.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still pretty sure it was just the cut on the chin.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

he played because he thought he was healthy enough to, which he was, seeing as he did pretty well. not sure why you’re calling him an idiot.

Jake is my hommeboy

by davus on Oct 31, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did he put his streak ahead of the team? Him playing hurt is still better than anyone else they Vikings have at QB, so him playing gives them the best chance to win. He wants to play if able to, just like practically every other starter in the NFL.

From watching the game, it didn’t seem like his injury made him play poorly, so I don’t see what the problem is. And the injury he sustained in the game had nothing to do with his ankle injury, it could have happened to any QB, so I don’t know what your problem is with him and why you’re calling him an idiot.

Look, I understand that many people hate Favre now because of how much the media has talked about him and obsessed over him the past few years, and that’s certainly your right to feel that way (although I think it’s a bit misguided), but it seems like you’re looking for reasons to criticize him now. If it was someone other than Favre who played through injury then I’m guessing you wouldn’t be saying those same things about him.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be, please don’t put words in my mouth (or in this case the opposite I guess). This is particularly annoying to me since when I first got here you angrily accused me of doing this to you. Stop being a hypocrite.

I disagree that Favre playing with a broken ankle is better than their alternatives. I understand he wants to play, just like any QB, but at some point you have to know it’s the wrong choice.

I won’t feel bad about any injury he sustained playing today because he shouldn’t be playing in the first place.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll concede Simmsinns point above, this might be more on childress than favre. favre would want to play no matter what, it’s up to his coach to tell him to sit. IMO, that was Mangini’s worst mistake in NY.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favre had a decent game though. More yards, one fewer TD and 1 more INT than Brady (and the next play after he got recked was a short TD pass by Jackson, so he likely finishes with better numbers than Brady).

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrecked*

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would argue that Jackson would have put up just as good of numbers.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and adds a rushing threat.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way of knowing that. And considering that Favre, even slightly injured, is a much better QB than Jackson, I’m not sure how you can honestly argue that position.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 TD less and 1 INT more is a huge difference IMHO.

by StuckInPa on Oct 31, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it was someone other than Favre who played through injury then I’m guessing you wouldn’t be saying those same things about him.

Please read that again. I didn’t put words in your mouth — that’s why I prefaced my statement with “I’m guessing”. I know you like calling me a hypocrite every chance you get, but please make sure you read what I wrote before you make such accusations.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just googled ‘favre chin’, and the fourth result was to a Facebook page titled ‘If you kick John Madden in the chin, you castrate Brett Favre …’

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

YES! My opponent has AP on his team, I thought he’d get 6 there for sure.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a nasty hit on Favre. Not pretty at all.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha Heyward Bey scored a touchdown! Wtf!

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

he put a sick move on the defender too, probably the best TD catch I’ve seen today.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, a backup Tennessee safety swung at a Chargers player, whiffed it completely, and strikes a ref in the face! Ejected.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

THat is former Ohio State Buckeye Donnie Nickey

by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, Derek Anderson is a stiff.

by JamesPowell on Oct 31, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Anderson just blew the game for the Cards with a crucial INT

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah, memories of that Cincinnati game…

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bahahahaahhaa! I needed Tampa Bay to win for a win in my weekly pool. I knew I could count on Anderson to lock it up for me!!! What a loser. Man I am so glad both of the stiffs are gone!

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think my post on the pool never came through. I only got two games wrong (the London game and NY)

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey BA Dawg. Mentioned some time back that my wife and I are heading down to Argentina in late November and will be in BA from 11/20-23. Any advice on where to watch NFL (and maybe the Browns)?

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Nov 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, basically, he was himself?

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Oct 31, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This x 1,000!!!

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see the Saints win, but I think they are about to get beat down. :(

Prove me wrong, Saints! Please.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they may be more motivated to win this week. And it’s in NO right? That’ll help.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Seahawks really need a QB.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cardinals need one more.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could probably pick up Quinn for next to nothin’ from Denver. They hardly dress him for games anyway.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be counterintuitive.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope all the Mangini haters out there have enough sense in them to look at the current careers of both of the boneheads that occupied the most important position on the field for us last year.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

And Arizona gets another one in the loss collumn w/ a couple more anderceptions. Why did I ever think he was a really good QB?

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Tony Dungy just called us a “gimmick defense.” Screw you Tony Dungy.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The "Oprah" of the NFL......

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gimmick defense = completely confusing to New Orleans Saints.

If it stops the other team, it will work for me. Ryan is giving us a good defense out of a few aging veterans, a few promising rookies, paper clips, and duct tape.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t wait for a couple more Heckert drafts.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll agree, except the tone Dungy used was a lot less positive. He was stressing that the Saints run offense was soooo bad that they’d fall to a gimmick Browns defense. As if we are so bad that we can be a litmus test for failure of another team.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I am saying that he can insult us all day and all we have to do is point to the scoreboard. Wins trump anything negative he could say.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I see. Agreed.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Dungy can rot for all I am concerned. His lay down against the Titans in 2007 is still one of my most bitter sport moments.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here. Won’t ever forget it.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Nov 1, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Youch! “Subject Fail”!

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

And a reply fail to boot!

"Have you ever thought about love????"

by Chemo on Oct 31, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say that just before you did! Damn laptop keyboard gets me every time!

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how Steelers fans say it’s black and gold. No. It’s black and bright piss yellow. The Saints are black and gold.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Great point. Saints no what gold looks like. Definitely a piss shade of yellow on the Steelers.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We oughtta com up with a name for their colors. How about; “Bloody Stool Black” and “Hangover Piss Yellow”

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That first one is definitely graphic haha.

You could same about stools for the Browns though :P

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think “piss and black” gets the job done.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it will finally “click” by seeing a side by side comparison.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recommend this post.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

This pisses me off. Shittsburg is using our amoeba/UFO package defense. Do something original for once squealers!

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You know what they say about imitation and flattery. When was the last time Dick LeBeau even gave a second thought to copying the Browns defense?

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. It still pisses me off though.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

At least we got a shout out on SNF.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am fairly hog certain Rob Ryan stole this from somewhere and that the steelers have used it before this year. Still, I agree, eff the steelers.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec for being fairly hog certain

by 9James on Nov 1, 2010 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! “Hines Ward is so great at blocking!”

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The dudes a major ass, but god, I respect his toughness. The dudes a great player, I wish we had someone like him.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He’s had a few great seasons, and launches himself to players that aren’t looking, but he’s really not anything special at WR. The announcers mentioned Hall of Fame, he doesn’t deserve to be there with the likes of Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin. No way in hell.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope T.J. Ward delivers a hit that wipes that smug little smirk off of his face next time we play them. He’s a punk.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the reccord ward is in he top portion of all recieving records in the leauge. I know we browns fans don’t like him but simply put the guy is one of the best recievers on the history of the game. If he doesn’t go to the HOF, I think it’s a shame.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also for the record, I did not mean to rhyme. I guess it was my poet self coming out. Yes I write poetry, go ahead and laugh.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just because he’s not Jerry Rice doesn’t mean he can’t be in the Hall of Fame. That’s the argument people always use when they want to exclude a player from the hall — that he wasn’t as good as the greatest player of all time at that position. A WR doesn’t have to be Jerry Rice to be Hall worthy.

I know we, as Browns fans, are conditioned to hate all Steelers and thus many have trouble being objective about them, but Ward has a good case to end up in the Hall when he retires. I haven’t looked at his alltime numbers to see how they compare with many others, but he’ll probably be near the top of most receiving lists when he retires and he was also a very good blocking WR who was part of (at least) 2 Super Bowl winning teams. I hate to say it, but he has a very good case.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for agreeing w/ me BB. Now just waiting for SB to chime in and disagree.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blah blah blah, a bunch of conjectures that I don’t feel like dignifying with a drawn out response.

This will be my last comment on this specific subject, consider this conceding defeat if it makes you feel better.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You never made any kind of argument at all, but you’re calling BB’s statements “conjectures” that you don’t want to “dignify?”

This doesn’t seem like an argument that’s worth being a dick over.

"Have you ever thought about love????"

by Chemo on Nov 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to add some numbers, Ward is currently at #24 in all-time receiving yards and #19 in receiving touchdowns. By the time he finishes his career, he’ll probably be borderline top-10 in both categories.

That certainly gives him a Hall of Fame argument, but you’ll have to consider the current anti-receiver bias, the fact that his numbers are inflated by the era, and the glut of receiver candidates that will be coming down the pipe. Guys like Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Isaac Bruce and Marvin Harrison will all be HOF-eligible right around the same time, along with current candidates like Cris Carter, Tim Brown and Andre Reed, who have all failed to get in so far. Ward is going to be compared to those guys, and I think he’ll come up just short.

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by Chemo on Nov 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for the intelligent response.

You have a very good point about the lack of WR’s in the Hall and the large number who will be eligible soon (and are eligible now) with big numbers. Ward will certainly be behind some of them when it comes to career stats but I think some writers will give him extra credit for his good blocking and “toughness” (whether that’s actually true or not) and also the fact that he was the best WR on two Super Bowl teams (and he could certainly win more). But Chris Carter hasn’t even gotten in yet and he’s had two tries, so it will be hard for Ward to make it in over all the other WR’s. He’s certainly going to be in the discussion, though, and deservedly so. In any case, it’s wrong to dismiss his chances completely and say that he’s nothing special because that’s just not true.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And should he make it into the HOF, Canton, Ohio will be absolutely unbearable on HOF weekend.

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by woodsmeister on Nov 1, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about HoF, but Ward is very good and has been for a while. His physicality and blocking are extremely rare at WR, and he can get open and catch the ball against just about everyone. He is kind of a dirty player though, yes.

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by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Random, but has anyone seen The Social Network? Saw it today. Conclusion: Mark Zuckerburg is an ass.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Amazing movie. But there is a lot of Hollywood dramatization, just seeing that alone isn’t enough to conclude that on his real life counter part.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
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by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, but he kind of screwed his friend over.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s likely got some form of Asperger’s which would explain his behavior. Not even hinted at in the movie.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should make my point…it’s a movie, don’t draw your conclusions simply based on that.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dumb challenge. Buy hey, the Steelers have had favorable calls regarding fumbles recently, haven’t they?

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

True. Refs love the squealers.

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by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Suck it tomlin!

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by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Unsportsmanlike conduct should’ve been on both of them.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The steelers have already gotten away with two blatantly obvious personal foul calls.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Another stupid challenge by an NFL head coach.

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by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

This was overturned haha.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll happily eat those words!

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cost the Stelers 4 points!

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by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got money ridin on those Saints – straight up – nothin big, more about wanting to rub a Steelers fans nose in a loss and make him hand me $.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pats looked really good today. Jets defense looked awesome and offense not so much. Tough couple weeks playing the bullies of AFC East.

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by realmccoy on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m more worried about defending the Pats passing game than any part of the Jets. Brady makes his reads and gets rid of the ball so fast it’s scary. The Packers are seriously banged up on both sides of the ball and gave the Jets more than they could handle today. I like our chances against the Jets much more than vs. N.E.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed. I think the Patriots offense is going to have a field day with us. Of course, I thought the same thing about the saints too.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That 1 TD pass by Brady to 19 was unbelievable.

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by realmccoy on Oct 31, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Several passes were out of Brady’s hand so fast the camera had trouble keeping up with the movement. The accuracy was out of this world too. Little tiny windows to throw through and the ball was right on the money. I’m not a N.E. fan or anything, and I can’t tell you when I’ve ever sat and watched a full game of theirs before. Probably why I was so blown away. Eric Wright is in serious trouble.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like our chances against the Jets much more than vs. N.E.

I don’t like our chances of scoring on the Jets D — Green Bay put up 9 points. Our offense is not Green Bay’s.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

DANG. The Saints D just wiped that silly smile off Hines Ward’s face. It was lovely.

by shep615 on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I was going to complain that the play before that was delay of game, not offsides, but the offensive PA evened it out.

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by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like the Browns rubbed off on the Saints – eh?

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing I will give to Mangini – he has coached his arse off against Bellicek. Think he has had like 2 wins with a far inferior roster with the Jets.

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by realmccoy on Oct 31, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Troy Smith Contest Results posted.

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by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Prolly will become the starter if he can repeat that performance.

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by realmccoy on Oct 31, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m really not trying to open a can o’ worms – honest……but how do T. Smith and C. McCoy’s body style and strengths / weaknesses compare? I know Colt’s collegiate numbers blow away Troy’s, but other than that – how similar are they?

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Troy is a little heavier/bigger and a little shorter. Troy is probably faster. Troy’s motion used to be slower than Colt’s (don’t know if it still is, but Colt has a nice, quick release). If I had to say, I would give the edge to Troy in terms of arm strength. Colt wins the short ball accuracy, but Troy might be a little more accurate deep.

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by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Randy Moss + Post Game Press Conference = Gold

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by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I thougt that was pretty out of character – even for a character such as him. Pretty cool.

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by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s because he wants NE to sign him when his contract is up. He quickly realized 41 yr old Favre is no Tom Brady.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ’Ol Junkdealer was looking pretty good before he got blasted in the chops today though.

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by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Ben seriously power clean a Saints player?

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course, even when we’re no longer last in the division, NBC still considers us last in the division.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

THERE’S A CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE BROWNS! ;)

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we wait for BB to chime in…

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are last; we’re tied with the Bengals.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, we’re third.

We beat the Bengals.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re tied for last. Anyone would say we’re last in the division, just like we’d say that about another team tied for last in their division. Tiebreakers only matter when deciding playoff spots.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiebreakers always matter.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only when it benefits the Browns, right?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve noticed this about you, you seem to do it a whole helluva lot now.

Guess what. I’m a Browns fan. Holy crap, surprised right?

Anyone would say we’re last in the division, just like we’d say that about another team tied for last in their division.

You use this disclaimer in every comment now man. No one here is ever going to be objective, why do you keep doing it? We have this damn objective/ subjective argument with you ALL THE TIME.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you’re a Browns fan, just like I am. But the problem I have is when you complain that NBC calls us last in the division — we are last. They are exactly right. Tiebreakers don’t matter now at all. So why act like NBC is doing something wrong when they aren’t. That’s what I don’t understand.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still say we’re third. We may have the same record but we beat them, in all parameters, that makes us third. We are better than them.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is perfecftly fine for your to think that way, but you can’t complain that NBC doesn’t say that. And it has nothing to do with the Browns, they’d do the same for every other team (and so would anyone else). You’re just nitpicking about nothing here.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

(and so would anyone else)

You need to quit doing this, you really have no absolute clue what everyone else would do.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what I need to quit doing, but from watching sports for my entire life I do have knowledge of how people in the media report the standings so I’m quite confident to say that nobody in the media, when reporting standings, cares about who holds the tiebreakers for last place in a division. So, yes, I can say that NBC and every other network would say the same thing for any team which is tied for last in their division.

Why are you even arguing this? Who cares that NBC said we’re last in the division (when we are)? Why even bring that up to complain about?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what I need to quit doing, but from watching sports for my entire life I do have knowledge of how people in the media report the standings so I’m quite confident to say that nobody in the media, when reporting standings, cares about who holds the tiebreakers for last place in a division. So, yes, I can say that NBC and every other network would say the same thing for any team which is tied for last in their division.

Why are you even arguing this? Who cares that NBC said we’re last in the division (when we are)? Why even bring that up to complain about?

That gives you absolutely no credibility to say that but ok.

And I bring it up because it’s another example of the Media not giving the Browns credit where credit is due.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, of course, the “Media” is against the Browns. How did I forget that.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

This. And note that after the 10-6 season, we got a ton of national games, and the networks pretty much got burned for that as we quit after the sixth or seventh game that next season and then ended up starting Ken Dorsey (yikes).

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and rec

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t injury force us into starting Dorsey?

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by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity, did NBC refer to the Bengals in 3rd place, or did they say that the Browns were in last?

by themadlibs on Oct 31, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd – Bengals.
4th – Browns.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiebreakers also matter when determining draft position.

If NBC has a policy of showing standings in alphabetical order, then this is a moot argument. But if NBC (and any other media outlet) applies some type of tiebreaker for first place teams, that set of criteria should be applied with all teams.

This is not a bias against the Browns – it’s a bias against puttin in the extra time to set standings as they should be set.

The playoffs argument doesn’t hold water – because last I checked, the Browns and Bengals have not been eliminated from playoff contention. So, playoffs criteria should apply to all.

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by Spidey on Nov 1, 2010 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

The playoffs argument doesn’t hold water – because last I checked, the Browns and Bengals have not been eliminated from playoff contention. So, playoffs criteria should apply to all.

My point is that the tiebreaker only matters for determining playoff positions at the end of the season (and draft order as well) so it doesn’t matter during the season. Whether or not the Browns are in playoff contention now is irrelevent to the point. When NBC (or any other media outlet) shows the standings now they don’t talk about tiebreakers if two teams are tied, they just say that they’re tied in that place. It doesn’t matter if they’re tied for first or tied for last. That was my point, so getting upset at NBC for saying that we’re in last place when we actually are in last place is just ridiculous. Can we please stop looking for supposed biases against Cleveland to complain about?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re not in last though, so.

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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re tied for last. Let’s go win some more games so we don’t have to resort to stupid numbers tricks to pretend we’re not in the cellar.

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by Chemo on Nov 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Why can’t we be tied for third then huh? Why does it have to be last? Actually, we aren’t even tied at all because we beat the Bengals, which means we hold the tiebreaker. So, we aren’t tied because we’re third.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right, but just to point out… Even if we were tied for 3rd, we’d still be tied for last. Because there wouldn’t be a 4th place team. 3rd place would be last place at that point. Right?

by shep615 on Nov 1, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

DBN – we can debate semantics all day.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s 86.3% of the conversation here.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

‘Here’?

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by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh my goodness. If there are two teams tied for third in a four-team division then they are also tied for last. Are we really going to debate the semantics of this?

If it makes you feel better, then you can say the Browns are third and the Bengals are fourth. But we both have the same record so we’re both third (or last) to everyone else. Tiebreakers don’t matter. Minnesota and Detroit are both 2-5 in the NFC North so every media outlet would say they’re tied for last, even though Minnesota beat Detroit. Nobody cares about tiebreakers in the middle of the season.

You’re making an argument about nothing just to complain about a supposed bias against the Browns. Please just give it up. Stop looking for biases where they don’t exist.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should read Chris’s latest post and then come talk to me.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not paying attention to all 32 teams—crappy or not—is still doing a poor job. It bothers me when people do a poor job. One mistake on live TV is not a huge deal, but it is a symptom of the larger issue, which results in crappier coverage.

Which is why I come here.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s not a mistake, and it’s not about not paying attention to crappy teams. It’s not a mistake to say the Browns are tied for last, because they are. That how every media outlet would report it and every fan would say it, because it’s true. And they’d say the same thing if two teams were tied for first place (like Baltimore and Pittsburgh are), so it had nothing to do with how crappy the teams are. Why is it a mistake?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I understand it, there are always tiebreakers now that they’ve gotten sick of the coin flips for draft position. It really doesn’t matter.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 2, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brees’ Oline blows.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

What is this “lull you to sleep?”

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Meet Collinsworth. A terrible sounding announcer who is quite annoying sometimes.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

….And – has ALWAYS hated the Browns.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice how he thinks Pouncey is the greatest Center alive.

I call bullshit.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a former Bengal and he’s still just as guilty as every other commentator of blowing the Steelers continuously. Have a little pride – schmuck.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lecharles Bentley on twitter is saying Pouncey is already top 3 in the league and will be number 1 by next season.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bullshit.

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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am willing to believe he knows what he is talking about.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to think he’s being extremely generous.

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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would he be extremely generous for a Steelers player? He has no affection for them. He certainly knows more about playing center than you or I, so how do you know he’s not right?

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shocking you’d put your 2 cents into this. It’s almost like I don’t even need to try anymore. I comment and you smell blood in the water. It’s predictable.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, it’s always the same jackasses following me around. You weren’t in this either! I thought BB was always supposed to deal with me, and not let anyone else start up something. Bullcrap.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody is “following you around.” If you make a stupid comment then people here are going to call you on it. If you want them to quit then stop making stupid comments. I don’t know what you mean by I’m the only one who’s supposed to “deal with you”. This is an open forum, and if you saying something ignorant or wrong then anyone here can reply to it. That doesn’t mean they’re “starting something up.” Quit whining that you’re being mistreated all the time.

I’m not the only person who sees the ridiculousness of comments like the one above. I mean, why would Bently have a “bias” for the Steelers or against the Browns? Why would he be “extremely generous” to a Steelers player? That just doesn’t make sense. You’re just making something up because his opinion is different than yours so you’re looking for a way to discount it. Stop making stupid comments like that and you’ll stop getting responses that you don’t like.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t resist. Every time I see you guys argue I think of this movie.

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 1, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He’s a big Browns fan, don’t know why he’d rush to give a Steeler credit.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, nice INT.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Fumble recovery, but nice try.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only caught the tail end of a replay, fumble is still the same end result, so I’m happy.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

An INT affects Ben directly, not as good but close.

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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Steelers loss is a Steelers loss.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Oct 31, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soon to come this week.

“I think my hit on Brees was clean. If I can’t hit a QB late, then I don’t know if I can keep playing the game. I may retire!”

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah, so true. An embarassment to flashes everywhere. How could such a dick ever wear a KSU uniform.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Awesome. I’m so glad he wasn’t that “on” against the Browns last week.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d love to use the sports transitive property here.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t believe the Cowboys are 1-6. I love it though.

by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It will be a fine day when we can say the same about the Steelers.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. But it will only be truly sweet when the Browns are 6-1 at the same time. That will be true bliss. But this will do for now. And Jones makes it all the more sweeter with all his posturing and talking about hosting the Cowboys for the Superbowl in his huge stadium. I like the guy but you can’t help but smile a little at his misfortune as a Browns fan. I just wish we played them this year.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Nov 1, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Believe it. No line and can’t guard a soul.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, I am a firm believer in the “Rany Moss” Syndrome. But NBC just wrongly pointed out Moss.

They tried to say that Moss gave a half hearted attempt to jump at a zinged ball in double coverge in the endzone to win the Packers game. Wow, really?

They then said that after drawing a PI call, that he should’ve kept running for the ball because he could’ve clearly caught it.

They were making something out of nothing. And there was a whole lot of nothing they were making it out of.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

He absolutely could have caught the ball on the DPI call. He was jogging for 5 yards and it bounced 5 feet away from him.

If he sprints, he catches it and walks into the endzone. If he jogs and lays out once he realizes he still has a shot at it, he catches it and rolls in.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%.

I had no idea why he didn’t catch it. He looked like he dogged it on that one.

by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish that ESPN or NBC could change who they were showing on Monday Night or Sunday Night Football. Nobody wants to see a shitty Cowboys team almost every week in primetime, and I doubt many people want to see the Bengals next Monday Night. I understand that the Browns wouldn’t be on right now since our record isn’t great, but there are much more deserving games for primetime.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe that they have a flex schedule for the last 4 weeks of the season, where NBC can move a game to Sunday night if it’s a good matchup.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s good I guess. Too bad I still have to see the Cowboys (or just not watch at all, but that’s no fun). It’s unfortunate ESPN doesn’t do the same.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason I think it is kind of funny when they schedule the same team on Monday Night for 3 games or something and then they end up sucking. Serves them right for giving the Browns NO games.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Nov 1, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last year that the Browns had multiple national games they stunk up the airwaves like the Cowboys are doing now.

"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan

by woodsmeister on Nov 1, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. And even last year, they still gave us some games, and we gave them the excellent Brady Quinn performance against Baltimore where we had like 5 yards total offense and got beat 16-0. (Though we did give them a good Thursday night game against the Steelers.)

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it would be too much trouble for the fans to change a game from Sunday to Monday (or vice versa) so that’s why they don’t do it for MNF. It’s much easier to change a game from Sunday afternoon to evening.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting (and probably useless) stat, we are 2-0 when we score more than 23 points. Think we can muster that much against NE next week?

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think that stat is entirely useless. It doesn’t tell the whole story, but if we can score our D is good enough to at least slow the other team down. We usually have to avoid stupid turnovers to score that much, which helps us win as well. When we don’t move the ball, we don’t score. When we don’t move the ball, our defense gets tired and we end up giving up points at the end of the game.

All sorts of correlations between our scoring points and winning games.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The more I think about it, the less disappointed I will be if Seneca starts next week. I’d still really like to see what we have in Colt, but I’m pretty sure Holmgren can make that decision on his own. In either case, the coaches need to decide who gives us the best chance to win and stick with them. The starter should be getting all the first team reps, no competitions.

Now, if Jake starts, I’m not sure how I’ll feel.

Why does this happen every year?

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I apologize for my multi-post rants, but when I’m in Browns-mode a lot of thoughts come to my head, and none of these posts would make sense together.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be fine with Jake or Colt. I really see no benefit to playing Wallace.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Seneca put us in position to win, only to have our lead slip away. The last healthy throw I saw Jake make was an awful INT, a horrible decision that was reminiscent of last year.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read that Rogers was in at DE for Robaire Smith last week. Is this true? I know he had quite a bit of pressure on Brees.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

The plays I saw where he was generating pressure came from the nose.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if this were true. Rogers has enough quickness to play DE for us when he is healthy and Robaire is out. He and Rubin are definitely two of our best DL, why not play both of them at the same time?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rogers had easily his best game against the Saints this year. Hoping it means he is in shape.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 1, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he’s actually been practicing. The bye certainly had to help.

by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoping it means he’s close to 100%.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 2, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

All I can say is that I really enjoyed watching that Steelers game last night. It was a thing of beauty.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Nov 1, 2010 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

sign Moss

Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!

by Chucky Brown on Nov 1, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree. He talks too much, is selfish, and is a pain in the ass, but we need a threat at WR

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 1, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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