Happy Halloween: Bye Week Game Thread
Have a Happy Halloween everybody!
The Cleveland Browns are on a bye this week, so we'll be rooting for the Bengals and the Steelers to lose their Sunday contests (the Ravens are also on the bye). Use this thread to discuss any of the action today.
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Happy Bye Week everyone. Enjoy a Sunday without stress from our Browns.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
Browns 11 — Bye 5
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I’d rather watch the London game than the Bengals.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I’m just watching the Red Zone Channel all day.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Best wishes to all for an enjoyable weekend. Colt was in Austin last night as his number 12 was retired – congratulations Colt. No Longhorn got more out of their talent, worked harder, or competed harder than Colt and I hope that those characteristics carry over and help the Browns restore their once proud tradition.
Longhorn faithful missing Colt – lose to Baylor. Yup – Baylor. Back to back losses at home to Baylor and ISU. Never take winning for granted Buckeye fans.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Is Hicks playing any for you guys? Redshirting?
I remember cursing him for picking Texas over the Buckeyes. Kid’s got a ton of talent
"There's nothing that cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes.
Haha, they just got torched by Marcedes Lewis.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Wacky play for Bungles’ second touchdown – defender bobbles interception and it goes right into TO’s hands.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
Yeah, the Bengals got a gift there. Bad throw by Palmer and it should have been a pick.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Suh is not human either. I’m glad Delhomme’s head stayed on his body when we played the Lions. Kid has 7 sacks this season in as many games.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
I picked up Dan Carpenter for the bye week. He has 19 fantasy points.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
i picked up kitna… he is doing as well as you would expect him to do
The only reason Joe Thomas didn’t catch that ball was because the ball was too afraid to come near him.
by the_fox_and_the_browns on Oct 31, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Palmer just threw the game away. Cleveland is no longer in the cellar in the AFC North — been awhile.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 31, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
We’re still in the cellar. It’s been awhile since we had company.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We got the tiebreaker.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard that too; I think they just meant the game that most of America was getting.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy Smith’s line looks pretty good in his first start for the Niners — 12/19, 196 yards, 1 TD, 1 rushing TD in a 24-16 win. Does anyone know how long Alex Smith is going to be out? Will he get another start?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
Denver D, not all that impressive. He will have an easy schedule the rest of the way if he can hold onto the starting job.
My grandma is a Bills fan, and they’re about to lose. Lindell made the FG but a time out was called, then the next kick hit the upright. It looks like the Chiefs are going to win this one.
OT, but anyone read the article where LeBron says that he would’ve done “The Decision” differently?
It made me laugh how he said that and then just a little later he joked around saying “Oh, but it’s not too early for teams to start recruiting me for the NEXT time I’m a free agent,” and then continued to say that he would be 30 next time he’s a free agent. But oh wait- I’m a Heat now, so we’ll just see what happens.
Already thinking towards free agency. Have fun, Miami.
I feel sorry for Bills fans too. They did not deserve to lose that game. KC is vastly overrated. Remember they only came away with a W from Cleveland due to the refs.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
If by solid you mean barely squeaking by the worst team in the NFL at home, then yes, extremely solid.
Oakland are better than KC and should win the division.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn’t beat the Browns because of the refs.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like the Dolphins didn’t lose last week because of the refs. The refs gave them 3 points and they won by 2. You do the math.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What does that have to do with the Browns?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
NFL games have seemed kind of boring this week. Way too many dropped passes in all of the games I’ve watched.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
I was going to post the exact same thing. Minus the Redskins at Lions game, I’ve seen pedestrian football.
We need the Browns back :)
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The Pats should have never ditched the old uniforms.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Speaking of uniforms, Arizona’s black ones today are awesome.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
I still want flat brown jerseys, flat brown pants, and flat brown helmets.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
No such thing as too much brown…

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Our players would look like turds.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You should add random pieces of corn to the shoulder pads. Complete the look.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Is that a dropped shadow under the letters? F**king disgusting. Also, to bright. Our regular home jerseys are about 13242 times better than these.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
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Yep. If the stuff is blunt with no shadowing, I like it.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That picture gives them too much justice, they look bad in practical use.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate these because of the shadowing on the numbers.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No orange at all, either on the shirts or the pants. Orange as the main color looks terrible.
www.lowbrowsophisticate.com
See, I don’t think it looks bad for Clemson, b/c it’s their thing. But I don’t want us to be the Cleveland Tigers. There is no better uniform in the NFL than our all-whites. The second best uniform is white pants and brown shirts. And I’d like a third choice, all brown, which would be an intimidating, dark look, but better than the forced “all black” of other teams (like the Ravens).
www.lowbrowsophisticate.com
Hmmmm yeah, I agree. I like our uniforms now, but I don’t think the jerseys like McCoy’s look bad at all. But now that I look at it, the style may be more “practice” than “game” jersey.
I think the worst uniforms are the Bengals. The tiger print is ugly. Those helmets are… ew.
Never mess with the helmet. Never.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree. Solid flat brown helmets = win
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
No.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m used to that.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
you do not change the helmet. ever.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, the helmet has been altered 5 times in the Browns history. So this absolute of “ever” is bullsh*t.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Well we’ve changed it for the throwbacks. So someone else out there doesn’t agree with this “not ever” absolute.
Personally, I love our helmets, and our current uniforms. But I also think an all brown win uniform would be badass.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
unless I’m mistaken, th only alterations have been to the stripes. We have always had an orange helmet without a logo. that is what I meant.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You are mistaken. We used to have a white helmet. Also, “you do not change the helmet. ever.” didn’t exactly translate into “as long as it’s orange with a logo” to me.
Personally, I’d agree that we always stick with the 1961-present helmet for home and away. But I don’t mind the alterations for throwback uniforms, and I would love the alteration for the win uniforms.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
We tried Brownie on it for a bit, but it never worked so he was dropped quickly.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There is like 3 (maybe 4) other people in this thread that said the dislike the all brown uniform.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
I’d like it with the orange helmet and original orange trim.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I think that would kill the point and would just be our original home jersey with our brown pants.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Beautiful.

Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Decent, all brown is still much better.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
BQ ruins the picture.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They are a bit fruity, but that’s gotta be what the Pats were going for.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
same here. One of my games is like a cripple fight. I’m wining 46 to 39.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m wining 53.5 to 39. But the guy I’m playing still has Matt Schaub, Chris Ivory, and the Steelers D left. And like I said, Kenny Britt or Zach Miller aren’t doing anything to help my lead.
I’ve got Miller in that game. Give him time. He’s got Lynch and Mike Williams, so I’m rooting for Oakland for once in my life :)
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Vikings going for it on 4th and goal. Peterson will probably get it, and the guy I’m against has him. Ugh!
I should have played Tampa’s defense over Seattle.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
picked up Tampa this week, I’m happy.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you, Brett Favre, for rendering one of the best receivers in the history of the league useless.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Why waste time with Mathews when you have Tolbert?
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Is Aaron Hernandez hurt / inactive?
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
I don’t know, but I have Hernandez and Moss in this game and they’ve combined for 8 yards.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Well that’s all Moss because Hernandez has nothing, whatsoever. I’m not ever sure if he’s seen a snap. That’s why I thought he might be hurt or maybe inactive for some reason… I don’t know.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Moss had a TD catch negated by pass interference. So damn. I have both Miller and Moss.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a lot of players in the league who need a haircut. The entire Packers linebacking corps, every Polynesian in the league, anyone (including Josh Cribbs) with dreadlocks and Tom Bieber.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I think some people can make long hair work. Cribbs and Chris Johnson for example. Troy Polamalu not so much.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Disagree, I think he makes it work.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Any man who goes to a stylist is no man at all.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
You call him a stylist, Johnson is likely to call him a barber.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

Stylist Shop?
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
anyone (including Josh Cribbs)
Don’t diss the dreads.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Favre just got wrecked. Again. Tavaras Jackson 1/1, 1 TD.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Chin busted wide open. Blood everywhere.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I’m guessing it’s a deep cut, nothing broken as the announcers speculated.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
he was carted off the field, curled up like a baby. Really feel bad for him, hope he’s alright.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t feel bad for him. he put his streak ahead of his own health and his team tonight. he’s an idiot. He didn’t deserve to get injured further, no one does, but I won’t feel bad for him.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If that’s the point your making than Childress is far more to blame, he’s the one who ultimately makes that call. Really, I’m certain they both thought he gave them the best shot at winning, rather than Childress trying to keep Favre’s streak alive.
Still, I don’t feel bad either. It’s a cut, and he’s playing football. There’s a bunch of players I wouldn’t feel bad for.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
There’s something else wrong with him besides the chin injury, if you’d seem him carted off the field you would have understood where I was coming from.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
How did he put his streak ahead of the team? Him playing hurt is still better than anyone else they Vikings have at QB, so him playing gives them the best chance to win. He wants to play if able to, just like practically every other starter in the NFL.
From watching the game, it didn’t seem like his injury made him play poorly, so I don’t see what the problem is. And the injury he sustained in the game had nothing to do with his ankle injury, it could have happened to any QB, so I don’t know what your problem is with him and why you’re calling him an idiot.
Look, I understand that many people hate Favre now because of how much the media has talked about him and obsessed over him the past few years, and that’s certainly your right to feel that way (although I think it’s a bit misguided), but it seems like you’re looking for reasons to criticize him now. If it was someone other than Favre who played through injury then I’m guessing you wouldn’t be saying those same things about him.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be, please don’t put words in my mouth (or in this case the opposite I guess). This is particularly annoying to me since when I first got here you angrily accused me of doing this to you. Stop being a hypocrite.
I disagree that Favre playing with a broken ankle is better than their alternatives. I understand he wants to play, just like any QB, but at some point you have to know it’s the wrong choice.
I won’t feel bad about any injury he sustained playing today because he shouldn’t be playing in the first place.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll concede Simmsinns point above, this might be more on childress than favre. favre would want to play no matter what, it’s up to his coach to tell him to sit. IMO, that was Mangini’s worst mistake in NY.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Favre had a decent game though. More yards, one fewer TD and 1 more INT than Brady (and the next play after he got recked was a short TD pass by Jackson, so he likely finishes with better numbers than Brady).
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I would argue that Jackson would have put up just as good of numbers.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
and adds a rushing threat.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no way of knowing that. And considering that Favre, even slightly injured, is a much better QB than Jackson, I’m not sure how you can honestly argue that position.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If it was someone other than Favre who played through injury then I’m guessing you wouldn’t be saying those same things about him.
Please read that again. I didn’t put words in your mouth — that’s why I prefaced my statement with “I’m guessing”. I know you like calling me a hypocrite every chance you get, but please make sure you read what I wrote before you make such accusations.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I just googled ‘favre chin’, and the fourth result was to a Facebook page titled ‘If you kick John Madden in the chin, you castrate Brett Favre …’
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Oct 31, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was a nasty hit on Favre. Not pretty at all.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
hahaha Heyward Bey scored a touchdown! Wtf!
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions
he put a sick move on the defender too, probably the best TD catch I’ve seen today.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, a backup Tennessee safety swung at a Chargers player, whiffed it completely, and strikes a ref in the face! Ejected.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
THat is former Ohio State Buckeye Donnie Nickey
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Anderson just blew the game for the Cards with a crucial INT
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
Bahahahaahhaa! I needed Tampa Bay to win for a win in my weekly pool. I knew I could count on Anderson to lock it up for me!!! What a loser. Man I am so glad both of the stiffs are gone!
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
I think my post on the pool never came through. I only got two games wrong (the London game and NY)
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Oct 31, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey BA Dawg. Mentioned some time back that my wife and I are heading down to Argentina in late November and will be in BA from 11/20-23. Any advice on where to watch NFL (and maybe the Browns)?
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Nov 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals need one more.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
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And Arizona gets another one in the loss collumn w/ a couple more anderceptions. Why did I ever think he was a really good QB?
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tony Dungy just called us a “gimmick defense.” Screw you Tony Dungy.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
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The "Oprah" of the NFL......
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
by DaveDawg09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gimmick defense = completely confusing to New Orleans Saints.
If it stops the other team, it will work for me. Ryan is giving us a good defense out of a few aging veterans, a few promising rookies, paper clips, and duct tape.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I’ll agree, except the tone Dungy used was a lot less positive. He was stressing that the Saints run offense was soooo bad that they’d fall to a gimmick Browns defense. As if we are so bad that we can be a litmus test for failure of another team.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
And I am saying that he can insult us all day and all we have to do is point to the scoreboard. Wins trump anything negative he could say.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I love how Steelers fans say it’s black and gold. No. It’s black and bright piss yellow. The Saints are black and gold.
by emily522 on Oct 31, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Great point. Saints no what gold looks like. Definitely a piss shade of yellow on the Steelers.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
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We oughtta com up with a name for their colors. How about; “Bloody Stool Black” and “Hangover Piss Yellow”
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
This pisses me off. Shittsburg is using our amoeba/UFO package defense. Do something original for once squealers!
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You know what they say about imitation and flattery. When was the last time Dick LeBeau even gave a second thought to copying the Browns defense?
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
Good point. It still pisses me off though.
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am fairly hog certain Rob Ryan stole this from somewhere and that the steelers have used it before this year. Still, I agree, eff the steelers.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Nov 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The dudes a major ass, but god, I respect his toughness. The dudes a great player, I wish we had someone like him.
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He’s had a few great seasons, and launches himself to players that aren’t looking, but he’s really not anything special at WR. The announcers mentioned Hall of Fame, he doesn’t deserve to be there with the likes of Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin. No way in hell.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
For the reccord ward is in he top portion of all recieving records in the leauge. I know we browns fans don’t like him but simply put the guy is one of the best recievers on the history of the game. If he doesn’t go to the HOF, I think it’s a shame.
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also for the record, I did not mean to rhyme. I guess it was my poet self coming out. Yes I write poetry, go ahead and laugh.
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just because he’s not Jerry Rice doesn’t mean he can’t be in the Hall of Fame. That’s the argument people always use when they want to exclude a player from the hall — that he wasn’t as good as the greatest player of all time at that position. A WR doesn’t have to be Jerry Rice to be Hall worthy.
I know we, as Browns fans, are conditioned to hate all Steelers and thus many have trouble being objective about them, but Ward has a good case to end up in the Hall when he retires. I haven’t looked at his alltime numbers to see how they compare with many others, but he’ll probably be near the top of most receiving lists when he retires and he was also a very good blocking WR who was part of (at least) 2 Super Bowl winning teams. I hate to say it, but he has a very good case.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for agreeing w/ me BB. Now just waiting for SB to chime in and disagree.
"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Blah blah blah, a bunch of conjectures that I don’t feel like dignifying with a drawn out response.
This will be my last comment on this specific subject, consider this conceding defeat if it makes you feel better.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Just to add some numbers, Ward is currently at #24 in all-time receiving yards and #19 in receiving touchdowns. By the time he finishes his career, he’ll probably be borderline top-10 in both categories.
That certainly gives him a Hall of Fame argument, but you’ll have to consider the current anti-receiver bias, the fact that his numbers are inflated by the era, and the glut of receiver candidates that will be coming down the pipe. Guys like Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Isaac Bruce and Marvin Harrison will all be HOF-eligible right around the same time, along with current candidates like Cris Carter, Tim Brown and Andre Reed, who have all failed to get in so far. Ward is going to be compared to those guys, and I think he’ll come up just short.
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Thank you for the intelligent response.
You have a very good point about the lack of WR’s in the Hall and the large number who will be eligible soon (and are eligible now) with big numbers. Ward will certainly be behind some of them when it comes to career stats but I think some writers will give him extra credit for his good blocking and “toughness” (whether that’s actually true or not) and also the fact that he was the best WR on two Super Bowl teams (and he could certainly win more). But Chris Carter hasn’t even gotten in yet and he’s had two tries, so it will be hard for Ward to make it in over all the other WR’s. He’s certainly going to be in the discussion, though, and deservedly so. In any case, it’s wrong to dismiss his chances completely and say that he’s nothing special because that’s just not true.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
I don’t know about HoF, but Ward is very good and has been for a while. His physicality and blocking are extremely rare at WR, and he can get open and catch the ball against just about everyone. He is kind of a dirty player though, yes.
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Random, but has anyone seen The Social Network? Saw it today. Conclusion: Mark Zuckerburg is an ass.
Amazing movie. But there is a lot of Hollywood dramatization, just seeing that alone isn’t enough to conclude that on his real life counter part.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Dumb challenge. Buy hey, the Steelers have had favorable calls regarding fumbles recently, haven’t they?
True. Refs love the squealers.
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by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Suck it tomlin!
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-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 8:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m more worried about defending the Pats passing game than any part of the Jets. Brady makes his reads and gets rid of the ball so fast it’s scary. The Packers are seriously banged up on both sides of the ball and gave the Jets more than they could handle today. I like our chances against the Jets much more than vs. N.E.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
agreed. I think the Patriots offense is going to have a field day with us. Of course, I thought the same thing about the saints too.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That 1 TD pass by Brady to 19 was unbelievable.
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Several passes were out of Brady’s hand so fast the camera had trouble keeping up with the movement. The accuracy was out of this world too. Little tiny windows to throw through and the ball was right on the money. I’m not a N.E. fan or anything, and I can’t tell you when I’ve ever sat and watched a full game of theirs before. Probably why I was so blown away. Eric Wright is in serious trouble.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
I like our chances against the Jets much more than vs. N.E.
I don’t like our chances of scoring on the Jets D — Green Bay put up 9 points. Our offense is not Green Bay’s.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
DANG. The Saints D just wiped that silly smile off Hines Ward’s face. It was lovely.
by shep615 on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was going to complain that the play before that was delay of game, not offsides, but the offensive PA evened it out.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy Smith Contest Results posted.
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Prolly will become the starter if he can repeat that performance.
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I’m really not trying to open a can o’ worms – honest……but how do T. Smith and C. McCoy’s body style and strengths / weaknesses compare? I know Colt’s collegiate numbers blow away Troy’s, but other than that – how similar are they?
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
Troy is a little heavier/bigger and a little shorter. Troy is probably faster. Troy’s motion used to be slower than Colt’s (don’t know if it still is, but Colt has a nice, quick release). If I had to say, I would give the edge to Troy in terms of arm strength. Colt wins the short ball accuracy, but Troy might be a little more accurate deep.
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Randy Moss + Post Game Press Conference = Gold
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I think it’s because he wants NE to sign him when his contract is up. He quickly realized 41 yr old Favre is no Tom Brady.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Did Ben seriously power clean a Saints player?
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
Of course, even when we’re no longer last in the division, NBC still considers us last in the division.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Now we wait for BB to chime in…
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We are last; we’re tied with the Bengals.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No, we’re third.
We beat the Bengals.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re tied for last. Anyone would say we’re last in the division, just like we’d say that about another team tied for last in their division. Tiebreakers only matter when deciding playoff spots.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Tiebreakers always matter.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Only when it benefits the Browns, right?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve noticed this about you, you seem to do it a whole helluva lot now.
Guess what. I’m a Browns fan. Holy crap, surprised right?
Anyone would say we’re last in the division, just like we’d say that about another team tied for last in their division.
You use this disclaimer in every comment now man. No one here is ever going to be objective, why do you keep doing it? We have this damn objective/ subjective argument with you ALL THE TIME.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you’re a Browns fan, just like I am. But the problem I have is when you complain that NBC calls us last in the division — we are last. They are exactly right. Tiebreakers don’t matter now at all. So why act like NBC is doing something wrong when they aren’t. That’s what I don’t understand.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I still say we’re third. We may have the same record but we beat them, in all parameters, that makes us third. We are better than them.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That is perfecftly fine for your to think that way, but you can’t complain that NBC doesn’t say that. And it has nothing to do with the Browns, they’d do the same for every other team (and so would anyone else). You’re just nitpicking about nothing here.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
(and so would anyone else)
You need to quit doing this, you really have no absolute clue what everyone else would do.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know what I need to quit doing, but from watching sports for my entire life I do have knowledge of how people in the media report the standings so I’m quite confident to say that nobody in the media, when reporting standings, cares about who holds the tiebreakers for last place in a division. So, yes, I can say that NBC and every other network would say the same thing for any team which is tied for last in their division.
Why are you even arguing this? Who cares that NBC said we’re last in the division (when we are)? Why even bring that up to complain about?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 31, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know what I need to quit doing, but from watching sports for my entire life I do have knowledge of how people in the media report the standings so I’m quite confident to say that nobody in the media, when reporting standings, cares about who holds the tiebreakers for last place in a division. So, yes, I can say that NBC and every other network would say the same thing for any team which is tied for last in their division.
Why are you even arguing this? Who cares that NBC said we’re last in the division (when we are)? Why even bring that up to complain about?
That gives you absolutely no credibility to say that but ok.
And I bring it up because it’s another example of the Media not giving the Browns credit where credit is due.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, of course, the “Media” is against the Browns. How did I forget that.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
This whole “the media is against the Browns” thing has gotten pretty old. The media is against consistently shitty teams, and we have been consistently shitty (pardon my French).
The year after we went 10-6, A LOT of analysts were jumping on the Browns bandwagon and predicting our winning the division. Too bad they were very wrong.
by StuckInPa on Nov 1, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
This. And note that after the 10-6 season, we got a ton of national games, and the networks pretty much got burned for that as we quit after the sixth or seventh game that next season and then ended up starting Ken Dorsey (yikes).
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Out of curiosity, did NBC refer to the Bengals in 3rd place, or did they say that the Browns were in last?
3rd – Bengals.
4th – Browns.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Tiebreakers also matter when determining draft position.
If NBC has a policy of showing standings in alphabetical order, then this is a moot argument. But if NBC (and any other media outlet) applies some type of tiebreaker for first place teams, that set of criteria should be applied with all teams.
This is not a bias against the Browns – it’s a bias against puttin in the extra time to set standings as they should be set.
The playoffs argument doesn’t hold water – because last I checked, the Browns and Bengals have not been eliminated from playoff contention. So, playoffs criteria should apply to all.
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by Spidey on Nov 1, 2010 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The playoffs argument doesn’t hold water – because last I checked, the Browns and Bengals have not been eliminated from playoff contention. So, playoffs criteria should apply to all.
My point is that the tiebreaker only matters for determining playoff positions at the end of the season (and draft order as well) so it doesn’t matter during the season. Whether or not the Browns are in playoff contention now is irrelevent to the point. When NBC (or any other media outlet) shows the standings now they don’t talk about tiebreakers if two teams are tied, they just say that they’re tied in that place. It doesn’t matter if they’re tied for first or tied for last. That was my point, so getting upset at NBC for saying that we’re in last place when we actually are in last place is just ridiculous. Can we please stop looking for supposed biases against Cleveland to complain about?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
We’re not in last though, so.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re tied for last. Let’s go win some more games so we don’t have to resort to stupid numbers tricks to pretend we’re not in the cellar.
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by Chemo on Nov 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Why can’t we be tied for third then huh? Why does it have to be last? Actually, we aren’t even tied at all because we beat the Bengals, which means we hold the tiebreaker. So, we aren’t tied because we’re third.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right, but just to point out… Even if we were tied for 3rd, we’d still be tied for last. Because there wouldn’t be a 4th place team. 3rd place would be last place at that point. Right?
That’s 86.3% of the conversation here.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
‘Here’?
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by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh my goodness. If there are two teams tied for third in a four-team division then they are also tied for last. Are we really going to debate the semantics of this?
If it makes you feel better, then you can say the Browns are third and the Bengals are fourth. But we both have the same record so we’re both third (or last) to everyone else. Tiebreakers don’t matter. Minnesota and Detroit are both 2-5 in the NFC North so every media outlet would say they’re tied for last, even though Minnesota beat Detroit. Nobody cares about tiebreakers in the middle of the season.
You’re making an argument about nothing just to complain about a supposed bias against the Browns. Please just give it up. Stop looking for biases where they don’t exist.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
You should read Chris’s latest post and then come talk to me.
Peyton Hillis is my Hero.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not paying attention to all 32 teams—crappy or not—is still doing a poor job. It bothers me when people do a poor job. One mistake on live TV is not a huge deal, but it is a symptom of the larger issue, which results in crappier coverage.
Which is why I come here.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
But it’s not a mistake, and it’s not about not paying attention to crappy teams. It’s not a mistake to say the Browns are tied for last, because they are. That how every media outlet would report it and every fan would say it, because it’s true. And they’d say the same thing if two teams were tied for first place (like Baltimore and Pittsburgh are), so it had nothing to do with how crappy the teams are. Why is it a mistake?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Brees’ Oline blows.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
What is this “lull you to sleep?”
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Meet Collinsworth. A terrible sounding announcer who is quite annoying sometimes.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Notice how he thinks Pouncey is the greatest Center alive.
I call bullshit.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Lecharles Bentley on twitter is saying Pouncey is already top 3 in the league and will be number 1 by next season.
I’d like to think he’s being extremely generous.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would he be extremely generous for a Steelers player? He has no affection for them. He certainly knows more about playing center than you or I, so how do you know he’s not right?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
Shocking you’d put your 2 cents into this. It’s almost like I don’t even need to try anymore. I comment and you smell blood in the water. It’s predictable.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s because you’re always wrong.
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by Chemo on Nov 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Dude, it’s always the same jackasses following me around. You weren’t in this either! I thought BB was always supposed to deal with me, and not let anyone else start up something. Bullcrap.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody is “following you around.” If you make a stupid comment then people here are going to call you on it. If you want them to quit then stop making stupid comments. I don’t know what you mean by I’m the only one who’s supposed to “deal with you”. This is an open forum, and if you saying something ignorant or wrong then anyone here can reply to it. That doesn’t mean they’re “starting something up.” Quit whining that you’re being mistreated all the time.
I’m not the only person who sees the ridiculousness of comments like the one above. I mean, why would Bently have a “bias” for the Steelers or against the Browns? Why would he be “extremely generous” to a Steelers player? That just doesn’t make sense. You’re just making something up because his opinion is different than yours so you’re looking for a way to discount it. Stop making stupid comments like that and you’ll stop getting responses that you don’t like.
. . . says the man from Columbus.

Couldn’t resist. Every time I see you guys argue I think of this movie.
"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan
by Kimble_79 on Nov 1, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha, nice INT.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
Fumble recovery, but nice try.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I only caught the tail end of a replay, fumble is still the same end result, so I’m happy.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
An INT affects Ben directly, not as good but close.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Soon to come this week.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
Ah, so true. An embarassment to flashes everywhere. How could such a dick ever wear a KSU uniform.
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-Coach Kevin Hockett
by brownsboy14 on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It will be a fine day when we can say the same about the Steelers.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
Yes. But it will only be truly sweet when the Browns are 6-1 at the same time. That will be true bliss. But this will do for now. And Jones makes it all the more sweeter with all his posturing and talking about hosting the Cowboys for the Superbowl in his huge stadium. I like the guy but you can’t help but smile a little at his misfortune as a Browns fan. I just wish we played them this year.
Brownsyup
So, I am a firm believer in the “Rany Moss” Syndrome. But NBC just wrongly pointed out Moss.
They tried to say that Moss gave a half hearted attempt to jump at a zinged ball in double coverge in the endzone to win the Packers game. Wow, really?
They then said that after drawing a PI call, that he should’ve kept running for the ball because he could’ve clearly caught it.
They were making something out of nothing. And there was a whole lot of nothing they were making it out of.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
He absolutely could have caught the ball on the DPI call. He was jogging for 5 yards and it bounced 5 feet away from him.
If he sprints, he catches it and walks into the endzone. If he jogs and lays out once he realizes he still has a shot at it, he catches it and rolls in.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Agree 100%.
I had no idea why he didn’t catch it. He looked like he dogged it on that one.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I really wish that ESPN or NBC could change who they were showing on Monday Night or Sunday Night Football. Nobody wants to see a shitty Cowboys team almost every week in primetime, and I doubt many people want to see the Bengals next Monday Night. I understand that the Browns wouldn’t be on right now since our record isn’t great, but there are much more deserving games for primetime.
I believe that they have a flex schedule for the last 4 weeks of the season, where NBC can move a game to Sunday night if it’s a good matchup.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Well that’s good I guess. Too bad I still have to see the Cowboys (or just not watch at all, but that’s no fun). It’s unfortunate ESPN doesn’t do the same.
For some reason I think it is kind of funny when they schedule the same team on Monday Night for 3 games or something and then they end up sucking. Serves them right for giving the Browns NO games.
Brownsyup
The last year that the Browns had multiple national games they stunk up the airwaves like the Cowboys are doing now.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
Yup. And even last year, they still gave us some games, and we gave them the excellent Brady Quinn performance against Baltimore where we had like 5 yards total offense and got beat 16-0. (Though we did give them a good Thursday night game against the Steelers.)
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting (and probably useless) stat, we are 2-0 when we score more than 23 points. Think we can muster that much against NE next week?
I don’t think that stat is entirely useless. It doesn’t tell the whole story, but if we can score our D is good enough to at least slow the other team down. We usually have to avoid stupid turnovers to score that much, which helps us win as well. When we don’t move the ball, we don’t score. When we don’t move the ball, our defense gets tired and we end up giving up points at the end of the game.
All sorts of correlations between our scoring points and winning games.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
The more I think about it, the less disappointed I will be if Seneca starts next week. I’d still really like to see what we have in Colt, but I’m pretty sure Holmgren can make that decision on his own. In either case, the coaches need to decide who gives us the best chance to win and stick with them. The starter should be getting all the first team reps, no competitions.
Now, if Jake starts, I’m not sure how I’ll feel.
Why does this happen every year?
I’ll be fine with Jake or Colt. I really see no benefit to playing Wallace.
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I read that Rogers was in at DE for Robaire Smith last week. Is this true? I know he had quite a bit of pressure on Brees.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this were true. Rogers has enough quickness to play DE for us when he is healthy and Robaire is out. He and Rubin are definitely two of our best DL, why not play both of them at the same time?
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