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By the Numbers 2.0: '09 Browns vs. '10 Browns

Well, a few weeks ago, Kimble did a comparison article of the '09 browns compared to the '10 browns.  I figured we could make it a weekly thing.  This one will be more stats oriented (especially Football Outsiders stats).  the one thing I thought would be interesting would be to compare the browns of week 10 last year to browns in week 10 this year.

 

2009 Browns through week 9

 

Points Per Game: 9.75 (t-31st)

Yards: 221.1 (31st)  Passing: 121.5 (30th)  Rushing: 99.6 (22nd)

Turnover Margin: -11 (32nd)

Points Against: 26.1 (28th)

Yards Given up: 409.5 (32nd)  Passing: 239 (24th)  Rushing: 170.5 (31st)

Point Differential: -16.35 (31st)

 

We were REALLY bad for the first half of last season...possibly the worst team in football.  I think this is nice to see, just to show how far we have come.

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When comparing these numbers, you do have to keep in mind (the totals) that this is only through 9 weeks.  However, its pretty easy to figure out the rate we are going for a whole season because we have played 8 games so you just double it.

 

2009 Browns Offense

Points Per Game: 15.3 (29th)

First Downs Per Game: 14.8 (30th)

Total Yards: 260.2 (32nd)    Passing Yards: 129.8 (32nd)    Rushing Yards: 130.4 (8th)

Yards Per Play: 4.3(32nd)

 

Passing Breakdown***

Comp/Att         Comp %          Total Yds     Yds/Pass        TD/INT     20+        40+   Sacks          QB Rtg
219/443            49.4%(32)         2076             5.1(32)          11/18     25(32)    4(27)      30(15)        55.8(32)

***(To make sure it all fit on the same line, the ranking doesn't include the letters...i.e. 15th is just 15) 

Rushing Breakdown

Attempts          Total Yds         Yds/Carry               TD             20+          40+
498                     2087               4.2(15th)          10(20th)      8(t-21st)          1

 

 

2010 Browns Offense

Points Per Game: 19 (25th)

First Downs Per Game: 17 (25th)

Yards Total: 306 (25th)    Passing Yards: 188.75 (25th)   Rushing Yards: 117.3 (13th)

 

Passing Breakdown***

Comp/Att         Comp %                  Total Yds        Yds/Pass         TD/INT         20+           40+        Sacks             QB Rtg

145/231              62.8(12)*               1510                6.8(20)*              6/8             21(20)     4(13)         14(20)          77.1(23)*

*This is something interesting to point out.  If you take away Jake Delhomme's stats this year, our Comp % goes up to 65.5 (5th), our Yards/Pass goes up to 7.3(t-10th), our TD/INT ratio would be positive, and our QB Rating would be 87.2(15th)

Rushing Breakdown

Attempts          Total Yds         Yds/Carry        TD      20+    40+

    226                           938                    4.2(14th)          9(3rd)     6         2

 

 

2009 Browns Defense

Points Per Game: 23.4(21st)

First Downs Per Game: 21(32nd)

Yards Per Game: 389.3(31st)   Passing Yards: 244.7 (29th)   Rushing Yards: 144.6 (28th)

Yards Per Play: 5.8(30th)

 

Passing Breakdown***


Comp/Att       Comp %          Total Yds    Yds/Pass      TD/INT      20+          40+        Sacks      QB Rtg
313/526           59.5%(15)        3915        7.9(28)          22/10       62(32)     13(28)     40(8)         90.6(24)

Rushing Breakdown


Attempts          Total Yds           Yds/Carry          TD               20+          40+
506                     2314                 4.6(29th)         15(19th)       11(21st)       3

 

2010 Defense

Points Per Game: 19.5(11th)

First Downs Per Game: 19(15th

Yards Per Game: 346.4(21st)   Passing Yards: 240.5(25th)    Rushing Yards: 105.9(15th)

Yards Per Play: 5.5(19th)

 

Passing Breakdown***

Comp/Att         Comp %        Total Yds       Yds/Pass        TD/INT    20+       40+      Sacks    QB Rtg

169/273                 61.9(20)              1924                      7.4(22)          15/9        27(t27)    4(t22)       14(22)      88.9(24)

 

Rushing Breakdown

Attempts        Total Yds         Yds/Carry            TD         20+         40+

218                           847                      3.9(11th)            1(1st)         7(t20th)      1

 

2009 Efficiency Stats

Turnover Differential: -12(29th)

Point Differential: -130(27th)

Offense (FO):  24th;   Passing: 29th;   Rushing: 12th

Defense (FO): 30th;   Passing: 28th,   Rushing: 30th

Overall DVOA (efficiency): 26th;   Special Teams: 1st;   FO Estimated Wins: 5.3;   FO Net DSR**: -.106(30th)

**(DSR or Drive Success Rate is a measurement of the % of drives that result in a 1st down or TD)

 

2010 Efficiency Stats

Turnover Differential: +2(14th)

Point Differential: -4(18th)

Offense (FO): 16th;   Passing: 17th;   Rushing: 16th

Defense (FO): 15th;   Passing: 22nd;   Rushing: 7th

Overall DVOA: 14th;   Special Teams: 6th; FO Estimated Wins: 4.8;  FO Net DSR**: -.031(23rd)

 

Observations

 

  • Wow.  This team is a lot better than last year.  The numbers support a lot of what I have seen.  We have taken care of the ball better, been more competitive overall, let up less big plays, and had more big plays and better efficiency on offense
  • These stats remind me of something Mangini said: "First you learn how to be competitive, next you learn how to win, and lastly you learn how to win consistently".  In 2009, the team was just learning how to be competitive near the end of the season.  You could see it carry over and they were competitive in each game.  Now we are learning how to win.  We just need to learn how to win consistently.
  • Random Thoughts while Surfing Football Outsiders:  Their Estimated wins for us is almost as many as ours for all of last year.  We are 3-5, but based on FO's rankings (and record) we have the hardest SoS so far and FO ranks our SoS going forward, only the 23rd hardest based on DVOA (27th based on Record).  
  • Random Thoughts Continued: Football Outsiders gives us a 9.5% chance of making the playoffs.  There is Hope!  They also predict us to finish with most likely, an 8.8 record, with our projected finish being with 7.7 wins.

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Football Outsiders gives us a 9.5% chance of making the playoffs. There is Hope!

So you’re telling me there’s a chance. . . . Yeah.

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 12, 2010 4:03 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Good write up Bross! My god how we sucked last year. I would be shocked if we continue on this pace and don’t keep Mangini. If we can continue to get more young talent in the off-season I think we will be a playoff contender next year.

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks. and I agree with all of this.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 16, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Any players going into this years draft that you are looking at? I think A.J. Green could really boost our offense.

by browns8 on Nov 16, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Colin McCarthy out of Miami and Donta Hightower would be two OLB’s that I would have my eye on.

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

isnt hightower a middle linebacker?

by browns8 on Nov 17, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Many scouts are saying that he would be a good outside rushing LB in a 3-4 system and still be versatile enough to play ILB also. He was heralded about the same coming into college as Rolando McClain until he was injured. If the guy is 100%, he is a beast.

"Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."--Big Tom Callahan

by Kimble_79 on Nov 18, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see it personally. he may be a solid pass rusher from the ILB position, but the guy only has 1 career sack in college. He can get to the QB a lot, but that is partially the product of him blitzing a lot. Joe Haden and Eric Berry both had more sacks in college than him. He also doesn’t have great range as an ILB and I don’t see how he can get consistent pressure off the edge with his speed,

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 19, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

AJ Green. If we can’t get him, Michael Floyd. Outside of them, there isn’t much. For us, we need to go #1 WR talent or bust on WR. the guys in later rounds that have #1 WR talent are sparse (Devier Posey, Ronald Johnson, Derrell Johnson, Deandre Brown, and Cecil Shorts are about it).

I would like to go pass rusher, but I am not sold on Von Miller’s ability against the run. Personally, I really like Jeremy Beal who IMO is one of the better OLBs against the run. Honestly, Beal fits the system great and is a “Mangini Guy”…I know its gotten cliche around here, but the guy is a very hard worker and has an excellent work ethic.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

von miller would be an OLB right? Justin Houston from geogia (OLB) is playing nuts right now, i like him, but i think DE is a bigger need. Does Beal project as a DE or an OLB?

by browns8 on Nov 18, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

OLB. He is only 265 so he is a bit small to be a down lineman in our system.

I think with our system, OLB is a bigger need. the OLBs are the guys that need to get to the QB.

Not saying that D-Line isn’t a big need. However, I see it this way: we need one elite guy at OLB, someone with great athleticism; a first or 2nd rouner. at 3-4 DE, we need some depth guys. Coleman, Shafering, and Robaire are solid starters for now, but wee need youth; a guy we can get in the 3rd like a Jared Crick or a Jarvis Jenkins.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 19, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

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