Braylon Edwards' Return to Cleveland Highlights This Week's Build-Up Against Jets
by Chris Pokorny on Nov 12, 2010 9:41 AM EST
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I probably shouldn't care so much about the Cleveland Browns beating the team that Braylon Edwards is on, but I do. Ever since he was traded by Cleveland, this is a receiver who has done nothing but trash his former team (editor's note: that's a link to a rant on Edwards for what he said in January 2010).
I won't rehash all of the reasons why Edwards is a tool. If you want to find out yourself, then all you really need to do is listen to his next interview: he's always bound to say something asinine, and not in a "lighthearted, Ochocinco type of way."
It would be amazing to see Edwards drop a potentially game-changing touchdown this week, but on the same note, let's hope that it doesn't even get to that point. If the Browns play great defense, the best-case scenario is that Edwards doesn't even get open enough to have a chance to catch the ball. Other "please let them happen" wishes include T.J. Ward delivering a clean hit to Edwards at some point in the game, and Edwards dropping a pass right off the bat only to blame his quarterback after the game. Plus, if there's a receiver talent-wise who the Browns should be more concerned about covering, he would be Santonio Holmes.
The worst-case scenario is that Edwards catches a long pass against the Browns for a touchdown. I know we like to think of him as just an "asshole who drops passes when it counts," but he can still make the big plays down the field. He doesn't get targeted very often, but he's the type of player who still might have 2-catch, 75-yard, 1 touchdown type of games. Hopefully Rob Ryan crafts another great defensive gameplan.
Speaking of Rob, he'll be facing his brother, Rex Ryan, this week. And, head coach Eric Mangini will be facing his former team for the first time. The extra coaching dynamics only add to the chess match game that this week's game should be.
While we never know how long it will last, it feels great that the Cleveland Browns are suddenly a "respectable" team around the league. The Browns earned that by dominating two of the best teams in football. If Cleveland can make it three in a row this Sunday, then Cleveland will reach an entirely different level: consideration for actually being one of the top teams in football. It might not be visible record-wise, but a three-game stretch like that, combined with the schedule we have coming up and the number of teams in the AFC with records that are close to each other, puts the playoffs well within reach.
Back to the Jets. The Jets' offense has struggled the past two weeks, something that has been a surprise to me. They have seen the reemergence of LaDainian Tomlinson, and have four solid receivers on their roster (Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, and Keller). That unit, on paper, has more playmakers than the Saints and Patriots do. The difference comes at the quarterback position, where I still have my doubts about Mark Sanchez. Sanchez came up with some clutch performances earlier this season and finished strong against the Lions last week, but I find it difficult to imagine that Drew Brees and Tom Brady would be dumbfounded by the Browns' defense the past two weeks, only to have Sanchez move the offense with ease.
This is a tough match for the Browns' offense. The Jets feature a good run defense, and while their secondary has been passed against a little more this year, it almost seems like a guarantee that they will line their cornerbacks up one-on-one against our "no-name" wide receivers. Peyton Hillis will have less running room, so I expect McCoy to have to make some good throws. He did a good job last week of putting the ball where only his receivers could get it, but the windows will be even smaller this week. If the Jets do indeed go man-to-man, I'd be really interested in seeing if the Browns try to utilize Evan Moore a few more times as a receiver, since his tall frame can shield off the Jet corners.
The anticipation for Sunday's game is there, possibly more than any other week this season. Let's hope the Browns' confidence level remains high and they are able to pull off another key win.
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I really dont understand why people hated “The Village” so much.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
The Village was f-ing retarded. It was an 1800s society created in a national park by a group of former college students. And to keep people from walking into the forest to find real – life society, they dress up as giant monsters, run around and kill people.
That’s a terrible movie.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 12, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was well done. Genuine moments of suspense, really nice mise-en-scene.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Did someone take a film class at college?
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by Adrock2099 on Nov 12, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The non-diagetic sound was great, too.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 12, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
no…because someone taking a film class in college would realize that everything M Night Shyamalan has since “Signs” has been complete and utter crap.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
by bross09 on Nov 13, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, this is so perfect.
Bravo Bross.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
please, signs was garbage too.
I actually liked The Village better.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Nov 13, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
I thought signs was his last decent work. That being said, it wasn’t that great. It was just his last work I can call “not complete and utter crap”
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Not agreeing with the ending of the movie does not make a case for a ‘bad’ movie. And I think you missed a greater point he was making about bending to the ‘fear’ society is trying to instill on your life. All of the actions in the movie were speaking to a greater idea that the filmmaker wanted you to reflect on, and if you didn’t he hoped to entertain you with the suspense.
As always Shyamalan did an incredible job of shot composition that told a fascinating story in its own right. Adrian Brody’s character was a complete wild card that added to the overall suspense that was boundless til the big reveal. I think the last 8/10s of the movie were pretty anti-climactic given the mastery of the first 7/10s, so I’ll give you that. But I think the movie deserves much more respect than ‘terrible’- leave that for crap like Skyline.
Skyline looks worse than terrible. It looks like straight crap.
The best they could do was Turk from Scrubs? Really?!
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 12, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t hate on Chocolate Bear.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Oh, I love Mocha Bear as much as the next Scrubs fanatic, but those actors have “Friended” themselves, all except for Zach Braff, even though he still acts like Vanilla Bear in all his other movies.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
As always Shyamalan did an incredible job of shot composition that told a fascinating story in its own right.
But that doesn’t make for a great movie. The story would have been much more fascinating in its own right and WAS before he got hold of it. The whole thing felt miscalculated on multiple levels.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Well, I guess I can cross this off the netflix list now.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 13, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
I was hoping that it was so old I was no longer playing spoiler alert.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
I had The Usual Suspects ruined for me unexpectedly a few months back… well, I won’t go into detail but it got very ugly from there.
You gotta be careful with spoilers.
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there is a difference between ruining The Village and ruining The Usual Suspects. That sucks though, because that movie is so reliant on the ending too.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Also, why did you ask this? I see nothing about it in Chris’s article.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 12, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Hitler would be so disappointed.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
by Villeslgr on Nov 12, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever happens with Edwards, happens and is just gravy on top if we win. I feel like we as Browns fans allow our hate for other teams and players (Steelers, Ravens, Braylon) make us almost follow the other team as much as our own. I see it with the Auburn/Alabama rivalry.
Alabama fans really don’t care what happens with Auburn. They think its funny with Auburn loses, but so long as Alabama beats them, the rest is just whatever. Auburn fans, on the other hand, are consumed with whats going on in Tuscaloosa. Its sad to see.
I call it, “Little Brother Syndrome.”
We need to be careful to guard against it.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
i see it, too, but i feel like it’s largely a function of the browns sucking. now that we have a non-suck-y team, the little brother syndrome is likely to subside a bit.
on edwards, specifically, this is a bit of a tough one b/c he baited “us” AGAIN this week … multiple times. i think the previous shit talking has been primarily forgotten (at least filed away) by browns fans, but the guy pours gas on the fire as much as he can.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 12, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I will continue to display significant schadenfreude over anything that resembles misfortune for the Steelers and the Ravens for as long as I live. The Karma Train is coming for both of them, and it will be a happy, happy day when it pulls into the station to stay for awhile. Those who oppose evil should always rejoice when it is vanquished.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Nov 12, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
very fair. legit rivalries (steelers, ravens) are a totally different matter. i love it when i see our rivals suffer, and will continue to even when we’re winning super bowls.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 12, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
We have a “legit rivalry” with the Steelers. The Ravens are not a legitimate team in my opinion — they are stolen property and our rivalry with them is therefore not legitimate. I hope for their team to fail in every way possible and for their fans to suffer. For example, if the Steelers decided to move to Los Angeles, I would think that was a bad thing and would protest it. If the Ravens did that, I’d laugh and open a bottle of champagne. Screw them.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 12, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
if the Steelers decided to move to Los Angeles, I would think that was a bad thing and would protest it.
This is how the Rooneys acted when we moved. While they have some issues themselves, I always remember that.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 12, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
BTW – Looks like lil brother Auburn got caught with their fingers in the cookie jar ;-) . Even if they win – the game will be forfeited at a later date.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Yeah, it looks like there is way too much smoke around that fire. I don’t know who got paid, but somebody did.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 13, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
He’s been caught with stolen property, academically cheated twice and bounced before the university could disipline him, then whored himself until a college paid what he wanted.
He’s screwed in the NCAA. Might as well just jump to the NFL asap.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
yeah wasn’t he charged with burglary at some point?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Nov 13, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
No. He bought a laptop from someone else which turned out to be stolen but he didn’t steal it. And the cheating allegations haven’t been proven and are disputed by Florida.
I know that there are some fans who like to assume that every bad report they hear about an athlete must be true but we don’t know that yet. That being said, it certainly doesn’t look good for him with the multiple reports coming out about his father requesting money for him to attend college.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 13, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t heard anything about cheating, and thanks for the correction on the stolen merchandise.
That said, I’ve read a few articles that don’t exactly speak well of his character, so proven or not I’m inclined to believe the cheating allegations.
I also think it’s not looking good for the recent thing as well. there are multiple people saying the same thing, and the circumstances of him going to Auburn seem iffy as well.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Nov 13, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
and thanks for the correction on the stolen merchandise.
Well, I wasn’t wrong.
He bought a laptop from someone else which turned out to be stolen but he didn’t steal it.
He’s been caught with stolen property
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think BB said you were
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I was responding to NTN’s comment about burglary; I wasn’t trying to correct you.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 14, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
This will be a slobber knocker for sure.
Best thing is that Browns are playing at highest level in years. We are peaking at just the right time for this team. It should be no surprise that the two teams are structured as mirror images of each other on both sides of the ball. We have the better kicker though!!! Browns 9 – Jets 6.
I agree with you, and would wager that someone may even predict an 11-5 score. It is surprising to me that the Jets offense is not markedly better with the weapons that they have. Braylon is an uber talented tool, Holmes dangerous, Keller nice TE and 2 very good backs, All Pro´s on the OL – guess jury must be still out a little on Sanchez and Schottenheimer based on the 2010 performance of the unit.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Yeah, how can that offense be putting up such mediocre numbers?
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Nov 12, 2010 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i appreciate the modifier on the “LT” nickname (since there is only one LT). i’ve been calling ladanian “LDT” for a while now.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 12, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
This would be a great week for some tendency-breakers on defense. Rex knows Rob and how he thinks. Time to switch some things around—terminology, the way we look and/or move pre-snap, etc. Make them think they know exactly what is coming, then give them something else.
I think this would also be a great week to use formations and shifts to get good matchups. Get our better receivers on their interior pass defenders, or make Revis move inside. I have been calling for more Moore all season, but I think he and Watson could be huge for us in this game.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Daboll will be the wild card this week. The other coaches cancel each other out in the battle, while Daboll is the new face and appears to be maturing into a strong leader and game manager. If he can maintain the trust in McCoy, he might be able to keep the Jets D off-balance. It’s all about leverage when dealing with stronger opponents.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Nov 12, 2010 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I respectfully disagree a little bit. I think Rex will have to be the key. To me, it is a certainty that Colt and our offense will struggle. Jets D is just too good and they routinely shut down high octane offenses. Colt and our O needs to avoid mistakes, keep their composure, and hope our D completely flusters Sanchez. Our Ryan has done that to better QBs than Sanchez.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Good point. I might have a little more expectation of what the Cleveland offense will do. I’m not saying they will put a lot of points on the board, but the ability to control the game will give the defense a little extra rest for crunch time.
As I mentioned in another thread – this might be the time to go no-huddle and work to drain the energy from the Jets defense. The longer we keep them on the field, the better chance we have of getting a late score as they tire late… (Provided Rob Ryan keeps it close).
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
I really think that because the Brothers know each other so well, the one who does a better job of fooling the other will succeed. We will have to score points, and the inside knowledge we have on Rex can help this. Same goes for their offense. We’ve got to be better at breaking our tendencies than they are.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
how tough is it to switch up terminology mid-season? or is that something that teams work on in camp/practice … an alternative set of calls?
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 12, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Idk if this helps answer your question but my line coach always gave us new calls to use each week. I mean, sure our playbook was obviously not as extensive as a Pro’s, but Idt it’s that hard to swap calls, as long as everyone on the defense isn’t a total idiot.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 12, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
as long as everyone on the defense isn’t a total idiot
maybe this is my actual question, then…
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 12, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget that the NFL has the radio headsets in the LB’s helmet now too. Especially at home they should not be able to tap into that signal.
The thing that you gotta deal with is the audible terminology/signals. I remember an NFL Films thing where Steve Young was talking about playing Holmgren, who knew Walsh’s WCO inside and out. They deliberately changed a few audibles for that week to screw with the Packers. The term for “run a slant” became “run a sluggo”. Green Bay heard Young audible, thought they knew the play, jumped the route, and got torched. I am of the impression that this is how Brandon McDonald got burned against the Broncos a few years ago as well.
Once you do that one or two times to the other team and you burn the s*&t out of them, they have got to start doubting that they actually know your terminology.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Wow, you guys sure hate this guy
I was traveling to Ohio the week that Edwards got pulled over for the DUI. I swear it was on every radio station in the car, and the announcers were almost giddy.
As a Jets guy, I have a different outlook on him obviously…but I sure wish he’d keep his yap shut.
The attitude you heard is not much different from what Braylon dished out (and continues to dish out) when talking about Cleveland and the Browns.
Really, if Braylon were a better receiver, we would be comparing him to Randy Moss in terms of what he says and how he behaves. (And the Anti-Moss talk is happening everywhere). As it is, Braylon is looked at with comic derision by most of the country.
As for the DUI – besides Braylon’s behavior described in the officer’s report, we also recall that he was hanging out with Stallworth in Miami just before Stallworth drove off and killed the guy. Stupid, stupid, stupid…
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
DON’T WORRY THE BROWNS WILL SHUT IT FOR him.
Browns, Indians, and Cavs,
Cleveland Fans, Support all of your teams.
by dawginhouston on Nov 12, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
You really don’t need to have that much of a different outlook. Wanting him to do well for the teams sake in no way means you have to defend him or ‘like’ him. Alot of fans tend to assume they have to all of a sudden ‘rationalize’ or ‘justify’ a players behavior simply because he is on their ‘team.’ Over on the Jets blog I actually saw a post referring to how Edwards was ‘mistreated’ by the fans and media in cleveland. Huh?!
He’s talented sure, but ultimately a completely self-absorbed ass who’s opinion of himself far, far outstrips his actual performance and ability—coupled with an absolute inability to take any responsibility for his own actions, or lack thereof. Would you disagree there? No reason for Jets fans to feel any differently about him than we do, other than that we want him to perform poorly on the field, obviously, and you want him to do well. That’s about it,.
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 12, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
…oh and like Dorn said…this guy has fabricated and manufactured this whole ‘personal war’ and ‘vendetta’ against cleveland fans….and he keeps going on and on about it….what, exactly did ‘cleveland fans’ DO to him again?!?
If he would let it alone no one would care about Braylon Edwards at all.
Actually, I guess that’s the reason…it makes him get headlines and press—something he doesn’t get through his actual performance.
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 12, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
‘cleveland fans’ DO to him again?!?
I believe it was that Cleveland fans had the audacity, the temerity, yea even the ‘nads to actually boo when he dropped yet another presumptive easy catch. Such scoundrels! And even though no fan ever said it, it was obvious that it had less to do with the drops and more to do with his ties to Michigan. We never once considered how it made him feel. I for one would be utterly ashamed of myself … if he wasn’t such a damned tool.
Does anybody else hate the Jets more than the Steelers? Personally, I REALLY dislike almost everyone on their team, especially the fact that they and the media basically pronounced themselves super bowl champs before the season even began
Not really. We know the Jets will have an epic fail at some point – there isn’t much to hate about that… The Steelers OTOH have won SBs and continue to do so.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Nov 12, 2010 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
IOW, hating the Jets is more fun than hating the Steelers, but we’re Cleveland and we never take the easy way out.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Nov 12, 2010 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i hate them more than any team. as an osu student, i hate the jets more than michigan.
by macdowellm03 on Nov 12, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt care either way about the jets except for BE. I would love for the browns to get a win over his team very, very much. I could care less how well he does…a win is enough.
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 12, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Does anybody else hate the Jets more than the Steelers?
not in Cleveland
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 12, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not really sure that the media pronounced them Super Bowl champions before the season. They were mentioned as a Super Bowl contender, but so were many other teams in the NFL. I know the Jets got a lot of publicity, because they play in New York and especially this year because of Hard Knocks, but I really don’t dislike them any more than other NFL teams.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 12, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Brad, they’re the legitimate Yankees of the NFL this year. The minute we lost the cap, they turned into the Yankees. It was disgusting.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 12, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure why they’re the Yankees; they don’t have the highest payroll in the NFL this year and it’s not even close. According to ProFootballTalk.com, the Jets are 6th in payroll but they’re over $40 million below the Redskins in payroll. They’re also behind the Cowboys, Saints, Vikings, and Seahawks. I can’t really think of any examples of them spending extravagently on free agents this offseason because of the lack of salary cap. Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that they’re spending like the Yankees?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 13, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Not that they’re necessarily spending like the Yankees, just that they’ve taken every top FA available and made huge blockbuster trades.
Edwards trade, Holmes trade, Signed Jason Taylor, Signed LT2, Traded(?) for Cromartie.
That’s Yankee – esque.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure if Jason Taylor and Tomlinson count as top free agents; both of the players are well past their prime (or at least everyone thought LDT was last year). And those trades had nothing to do with the lack of a salary cap so I’m not sure how that supports your point.
And the fact that the Jets traded for those players had nothing to do with their willingness or ability to take on salary, which is why the Yankees are able to make some of the trades that they do, so I don’t really see how that is comparable at all.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 13, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oh forget it. I’m not getting into one of these with you… again. All I know is, is that’s what I feel like and Dorn agrees with me, so.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Get in to what — where I ask you to provide evidence to back up your statements? You can think it “feels” like whatever you want to think, but that doesn’t make it true.
Also, how do you know Dorn agrees with you?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 13, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Get in to what — where I ask you to provide evidence to back up your statements? You can think it "feels" like whatever you want to think, but that doesn’t make it true.
Also, how do you know Dorn agrees with you?
Oh holy crap BB. YOU ALWAYS START THIS. You can never let something go. You always have this attitude that everything is always good, and no one is ever evil. Just like the Jets. No, they weren’t hoarding talent like the Yankees do, they weren’t on the front page of SI for all their trades (mind you this is hyperbolic but you understand what I’m trying to say), they did it nice and quiet, built through the draft and became good. Bullcrap. They hoarded in FA and made big name trades, like I’ve already said. Ryan stated in his article that they were pretty good last year, built through FA and trades and became better. I don’t see how you can’t say they didn’t act like the Yankees in some instance. I mean I never meant to say it was true, how can you make this true anyways? Is there an actual term to say when a franchise acts like the Yankees? Do I need to go to the library, write out a Works Cited and credit sources mid – comment so you believe me?
And how do I know Dorn agrees with me? Because he said it, duh. Not in this thread but in a fanshot somewhere, I can’t say I remember which one though.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, that the Jets are Yankee-esque.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 14, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
You always have this attitude that everything is always good, and no one is ever evil.
What in the world are you talking about?
And your entire rant makes no sense. I’m sorry that I ask you for evidence to support your statement, but I do that for everyone. So stop acting like I’m picking on you. If you don’t have evidence to support your statement then don’t make those statements. Or, when someone shows you that you’re wrong, admit it instead of saying that it “feels like” you’re right. You sound like Stephen Colbert — it doesn’t matter what is true, it just matters what you think is true.
The Jets didn’t sign a bunch of expensive free agents. They didn’t trade for players under big contracts because other teams couldn’t afford them. They’re not acting like the Yankees. I don’t really care if you like them or not, but don’t say things that aren’t true. And stop whining when someone calls you out on them.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 14, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
lol are you always going to use that as an excuse? “dorn agrees with me”
If you can’t support your own argument or it doesn’t have the merits to stand on it’s own, you shouldn’t be using it.
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Nov 13, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
You love calling the kettle black don’t you? Also you love popping up to belittle me when I’m already down. It’s childish.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
don’t take it personally, he belittles everyone.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Yes, I suppose you’re right.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 13, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
steelers, ravens, ,jets yankees are teams I HATE,
Browns, Indians, and Cavs,
Cleveland Fans, Support all of your teams.
by dawginhouston on Nov 13, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Just win. I really don’t care how Edwards performs as long as the Browns win.
by Grockcubs on Nov 12, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Man it would be nice to win this game. Make no mistake, the jets’ defense is a lot better than the patriots’. I don’t see us piling up rushing yards like we did last week. However, I do think that if our defense can shut down the likes of Drew Brees and Tom Brady, we should be able to disrupt the Jets’ Mark Sanchez. I see the game as a low-scoring affair and a real slobberknocker — Just the kind of game that I think this browns team can win.
Heres to hoping that Braylon has a key drop and the browns are able to force Sanchez to commit a turnover or two while our guy Colt McCoy continues his ‘beyond his years’ play in terms of avoiding negative plays and doing just enough on offense to get us by. If we win the turnover battle and avoid giving up big plays, i think we win the game.
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Given all of the receiving weapons that the Jets have, I think it will be problematic anytime the Browns D only rushes 3. They need to get into Sanchez’ face early and often.
I don’t think that Hillis has to put up huge numbers, or that he even will in this one, but the Browns as a team need move the ball enough to keep converting 3rd downs.
It could be that our ST will be the difference maker.
When Sanchez doesn’t get any pressure, he can actually look like a good QB. The browns haven’t been good at all at getting to the QB and that will ultimately kill them
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by The Licensed Pessimist on Nov 13, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
When Sanchez doesn’t get any pressure, he can actually look like a good QB. The browns haven’t been good at all at getting to the QB and that will ultimately kill them
You just described 2 different things. Pressure=/=getting to the QB. you can put pressure on the QB without “getting to the QB” We haven’t gotten a ton of sacks or QB hits but we have put pressure on other QBs.
Also, saying “we haven’t been good” is your classic over exaggeration of a point just for the sake of pessimism. the browns are 18th in adjusted sack rate. thats marginally below average but I wouldn’t call it “not good”. Yeah, we don’t have a lot of sacks, but we are also below the league average in opponents passing attempts and 5 opponents are in the top 12 in sacks allowed, and 7 in the top 16…
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
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