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Getting to Know the Enemy: Cat Scratch Reads Talks About Jimmy Clausen and the Panthers' Defense

CHARLOTTE NC - NOVEMBER 07:  Jimmy Clausen #2 of the Carolina Panthers throws a pass against the New Orleans Saints during their game at Bank of America Stadium on November 7 2010 in Charlotte North Carolina.  (Photo by Streeter Lecka/Getty Images)

I was pleased to be joined by Jaxon from Cat Scratch Reader, our Carolina Panthers affiliate, to preview Sunday's game. Jaxon talks about the play of rookie quarterback Jimmy Clausen, how Carolina fans have handled a 1-9 season, whether the Panthers are as bad defensively as their record might indicate, and more.

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Chris: "None of the Panthers' quarterbacks have done well this year, but we're most interested in hearing about Jimmy Clausen in particular. Has he shown any promise in Carolina's offense, or has he just looked like a struggling rookie?"

Jaxon: "The jury is still out on Clausen for the most part. He has been a model rookie off the field essentially debunking his prima donna stereotype. His positives are he plays with composure and does a good job of getting rid of the ball when under pressure. Actually he does that to a fault and doesn’t take a lot of shots downfield. He also doesn’t move his feet in the pocket resulting in a lot of batted passes. He has shown some of the accuracy he was touted for so if he can get time to throw he will start hitting more vertical stuff versus all the sideway passes he throws now."

Chris: "Your team will likely be facing former Panther quarterback Jake Delhomme this Sunday. Despite Delhomme's struggles last season, would it have been worth it for Carolina to give Delhomme another shot this season?"

Jaxon: "I was adamant it was a good move the entire offseason even though we are still paying Jake; nicely I might add ($12M). But now sitting at 1-9 and being faced with these QB options: two rookies and two young cast offs from other teams it’s hard to say I wouldn’t want Delhomme to be starting instead. The reality is we gambled on Matt Moore and then after having Clausen fall to us we thought we had enough to be competitive. I doesn’t appear to have been a smart move releasing Delhomme but then again how many more games would the Panthers really have won? A couple maybe?"

Chris: "It can't be easy going through games with less superior offensive talent at times, such as a street quarterback (Brian St. Pierre), fourth-string running backs, etc. How has the Carolina fanbase responded to the Panthers' terrible season offensively?"

Jaxon: "Most of us have already traversed the four stages of grief: disbelief, anger, depression and now ‘hand me another beer’. I’m already mentally prepared for 1-15 but am heartened by the notion of having the #1 pick. The thought of Carolina finally getting a franchise QB is very tempting no matter how well Clausen performs the remainder of the year. Once the season is over it will make the decision to release Delhomme seem necessary."

Chris: "As bad as Carolina is offensively, their defense doesn't seem so bad. Statistically, they are much better at defending the pass than they are the run. Does that accurately describe the Panthers' defense, or are the statistics deceiving (i.e. are both units terrible)?"

Jaxon: "The defense is not as bad as their stats. They spend a lot of time on the field and have been put in bad spots by the offense all too often. The run defense played better earlier in the season but has been gashed lately. So obviously Hillis is a big concern. The Panther defense will be keyed on stopping him early so Delhomme will need to test the Panthers secondary with a few deep balls. Our safeties are young but athletic but also error-prone."

Chris: "Outside of a win over San Francisco and a close loss to New Orleans earlier this season, the Panthers haven't been too competitive this year. What was different in those two games than all of the other games Carolina has played?"

Jaxon: "We were able to throw the ball in the win over the 49ers and ran the ball on the Saints combined with some good D. You’re right though, most the games the Panthers have been down at halftime and things just got worse in the 2nd half. We’ve had a lot of injuries though so that’s been a big part of the nine losses."

Once again, I'd like to thank Jaxon for taking the time to answer these questions.

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Haha, Clausen.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 26, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Would have loved to see Colt go head to head against Clausen.
Plus the ‘dueling rookies’ story line might have put the game on the media radar
(if that is possible for a game between between teams with a combined record of 4-16).

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 26, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Clausen’s hurt though, right?

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 26, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like he’ll probably be starting

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 26, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Clausen has similar to problems that Quinn did.

by emily522 on Nov 26, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

I never saw him play much in college – just a few highlights.
Attractive to the scouts last year for the typical reasons (“has the physical attributes / size / ‘big arm’ / played under an NFL caliber offensive coordinator – i.e. should be well prepared for NFL style offense, etc.”) but had never really proved himself as someone who could lead his team to win games (i.e. 6-6 record in ‘09 with Notre Dame – lost their last 4 games of the season).
Also seemed to have an oversized ego, without the “IT” intangibles.
Pretty awful performances out of the starting gates with the Panthers.
Seems like he probably jumped the gun foregoing his senior year at Notre Dame – wasn’t quite ready for the NFL.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 26, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t really fault Clausen for bolting for the NFL when his coach was fired.

Clausen was attractive to scouts because he played for Weiss but he also put up some huge numbers. He usually looked good on tape; solid accuracy, solid arm, solid decisions en route to huge yardage and stats.

I am less inclined to give Clausen the same benefit of the doubt that Quinn got when talking about “big games”. The QB is one player. While he has the biggest impact that one player can have, he can’t win games all by himself. Quinn was going up against some of the most talented CFB teams in history with not a whole lot of talent on his side. Clausen had some of the best recruiting classes in the nation alongside him including several high draft picks.

I don’t think wins in big situations by themselves do much in an evaluation of the QB. Maybe looking at how well the QB did in those situations means something.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 26, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t necessarily blame him for wanting to leave for the NFL.
But so far he has been in way over his head. I read an article recently quoting him in an interview admitting that he wasn’t ready for how fast the NFL game is compared to college. I think the bottom line is he would have been better off spending another year playing in college.

Clausen’s 15-21 record in college – I guess I just disagree that it can be overlooked. Its hard for me to see how that can be so easily shrugged off come draft day when looking at a Junior in college QB prospect. Seems to me a QB has to prove he can take the team on his shoulders a few times and do what it takes to win, not just put up big passing yardage stats.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 26, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

admitting that he wasn’t ready for how fast the NFL game is compared to college.

How ready is anyone though? The QBs that have a ton of success in their first year typically have a ton of support. Sanchez was making 2 reads per dropback; they were able to pare it down for him because of the running game and defense. Ryan had a monster running game too, as did Flacco.

Seems to me a QB has to prove he can take the team on his shoulders a few times and do what it takes to win

What I am saying is that as a QB you can do this and still lose. It was a lot more explainable with Quinn’s surrounding talent than it was with Clausen’s. He had some opportunities that he didn’t capitalize on.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 26, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

True, he’s at a disadvantage in that the Panthers don’t have much of a supporting cast compared to other rookies who are able to show something their first year.

I do think though that from indications so far it seems like one more year of experience in college would probably have been better for his overall development.
As I mentioned I haven’t actually watched him yet – will be interesting to see him in action on Sunday. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 26, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing. when reading Jaxon’s paragraph on clausen, I thought “this sounds eerily similar to what we were saying about quinn early on.”

by Dawg Nuts on Nov 27, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Random, but walterfootball has AJ Green falling to us with the 7th pick. Interestingly enough, he never liked McCoy but is now saying he’s the real deal.

by emily522 on Nov 26, 2010 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

Then in the 2nd round he has us taking Kyle Rudolph and in the 3rd Rashad Carmichael from VA Tech.

by emily522 on Nov 26, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see us taking Kyle Rudolph.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 26, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Many Panther fans want us to take Rudolph

and reunite him with Clausen.

Our 3-headed TE solution is not only ineffective but has become a tell to opposing defenses on what play we are calling. Of course that falls on the coaches for the most part but we’re tired of beating that drum.

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by Jaxon on Nov 27, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Rudolph would make sense in Carolina, however the browns already have a 6’6’’ Tight End with speed in Evan Moore.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 27, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d probably take Rudolph over Moore.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 28, 2010 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I would too, I just don’t think of big, athletic TE of a huge need now. For a team like us, taking Rudolph would be a luxury pick IMO.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Nov 29, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be pretty pleased if AJ Green fell to us near the bottom of the top 10, actually.

by ahowie on Nov 26, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t stand that guy.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 26, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Me either. His mocks are decent though.

by emily522 on Nov 26, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You can’t completely hate a guys who says

As much as I love the Adventures of Derek Anderson’s Magic Flask, the Cardinals need to find a franchise quarterback. Anderson, sober or not, is certainly not the answer.

by HenryDawg on Nov 26, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet by the end of the year we draft later than 7, but he also has Nick Fairley from Auburn going at 8 – that guy looked pretty awesome today vs. Alabama (but like all highly ranked DLs, has huge bust potential)

by HenryDawg on Nov 26, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He has been beastly this year.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 26, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

He had us picking Fairley for a few weeks.

by emily522 on Nov 26, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Julio Jones watch

10 catches for 199 yards and a touchdown today in the Auburn game. Saw him drop one he should have caught though – but he looks very impressive overall. Big, athletic, physical – great athlete. Reminds me of Michael Irvin. Seems like someone the Browns should be keeping an eye on.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 26, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I love him, the drops are his question mark. Also, you gotta wonder what happened to him on the drive where he was hurt…that’s one of the biggest rivalries in college football, you have to try to get back in the game.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 26, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Their BCS hopes were also on the line.

Really makes me wonder how a team, with that much on the line, can go from 3 touchdowns in the opening quarter to only 2 field goals for the remaining 3.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Nov 27, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

With 2 losses already Alabama had no hope of a BCS title shot – a higher profile bowl game maybe, but I think for Alabama the game was more about pride and SEC bragging rights.
Watching Alabama blow a 21-0 lead though – unbelievable. The fumble by Ingram early in the 2nd quarter was a game changer. Kind of a freak play, but a heads up one by Antoine Carter punching the ball out. Ingram would have had them in scoring position again. Took the wind out of the sails for Alabama.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 27, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

“a higher profile bowl game” … “and SEC bragging rights.”

In this modern day BCS era that’s all anyone can really hope for. (Well, in their respective conferences. )

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Nov 27, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially a Saban coached team. He was furious.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 28, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve never seen Julio Jones play, but every time his name gets brought up here I get Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard stuck in my head. I think we should draft him.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Nov 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazing, same here! Someone starts talking about him and BAM that song starts playing.
Usually for me its after a couple of shots of Don Julio tequila.
Has to be a sign. Draft him!

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 27, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m glad it’s not just me.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Nov 27, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be awesome, booming in the stadium after he makes a big play.

by Dawg Nuts on Nov 27, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

There are so many variables that can change between now and April that any draft predictions made right now are nothing but a giant circle jerk.

by Monsters of the Midway on Nov 27, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

speaking of jerks

Seems to me your post is uncalled for.
We’re not Browns agents scouting the college ranks for prospects for Christ sake.
Just a few folks having a friendly discussion and doing some casual speculation.
Go find another parade to rain on if you’re in a bad mood today.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 27, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right. That was in poor taste and misdirected towards you guys instead of the walterfootball’s, Todd Mcshay’s and Mel Kiper’s of the world.

I agree it’s fun to talk about potential talent the Browns could get. I just think it’s silly that “draft experts” already have predictions for rounds 1-3 on who teams are going to pick.

My apologies.

by Monsters of the Midway on Nov 28, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

rec for “giant circle jerk.”

by Dawg Nuts on Nov 27, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we rec this post please? Wasn’t Jeff Davidson our OC anyway?

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Nov 27, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah... from OL coach to OC in Cleveland to the demise of the Panthers...

Just watch Carolina’s playcalling during the game. If it’s what it normally is… you’ll get a good laugh out of it. Why Davidson is our OC or anyone in charge of anything is completely beyond me. One way I have described the our Davidson playbook is… “The reiteration of retardation” See you guys on the field! :)

The inexpensive, inexperienced, derelict and flawed experiment... Your 2010 Carolina Panthers!

by SwankTheTank on Nov 28, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

As you can tell, I am pissed at our over-conservative front office

this could be the most unnecessary disclaimer of all time. great post, funny stuff. rec.

by Dawg Nuts on Nov 27, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the rec!

I hate how this team has suffered. I know there’s more than one person to point fingers at… but I’m at least going to make the best of our situation and have a little fun with it!

The inexpensive, inexperienced, derelict and flawed experiment... Your 2010 Carolina Panthers!

by SwankTheTank on Nov 28, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Panthers salivating over 2011 draft (re: Luck, etc…)

An Interesting read over on the Panther’s board

Sounds like Clausen (or his ego at least) may be in for a rough ride for his first couple of years in the NFL.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 27, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if Carolina drafts Luck.

by emily522 on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this the biggest “Duh” of the season, or what?! How much longer must we wait for our franchise quarterback? Sorry, they deserve to lose.

by mooncamping on Nov 27, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

NFL.com just made me aware that there is an entity named Armanti Edwards from the giant beaters Appalachian State on the roster, could that be the reason for the negative reinforcement making the highly improbable quality disintegration of Jimmy Clausen feasible? By the way, I think Pike and Null aren´t half bad either.

by mooncamping on Nov 28, 2010 6:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Classic Moonism. The verbose sentence structure and choice of vocabulary are brilliant. I’m still convinced this stuff couldn’t possibly be made up.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Nov 28, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, literary concoctions served chilled.

by mooncamping on Nov 29, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Once more in English?

his pick sexes put us over the top

by North Coast Flea on Nov 28, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

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