Since 1999 16 quarterbacks have started for the Cleveland Browns
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT
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PrintSince 1999 16 quarterbacks have started for the Cleveland Browns. That´s a fact. Factors of facts: real, history, coroboratable, chalengable, publishable...you know the spiel. In other words that´s a historic fact. While some of them may not rate as failures with the Browns faithful, and some of them went on to have meaningful careers, none of them reached the legendary status of someone like Bernie Kosar for instance. It´s coulda, shoulda, woulda, allowed to fail in Cleveland. Now, I´m not a Holmgren acolyte, if you can move in a coordinated manor he´ll find a way for you to win. But as far as I can tell, there were some good ones. The Browns fans are resilient and they take disappointments in stride, but even to them these unrealized potentials must hurt and represent a tarnished team legacy. Bad comentators might even ascertain that it´s a franchise that can´t be trusted to handle the better prospects at the quarterback position, dissent and displeasure being the resulting mind-set, you may not want to dip into this topic emotionally, who knows if you´ll surface. Anyways, here goes. Mooncamping´s suggestion to reach the playoffs this year:
Colt McCoy has shown his meddle, he is a genuine candidate for future franchise quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. While I would like to see his baptism by fire continue, in the current artificial astringents placed on players, I don´t like his chances versus the forced reality that is NFL football at this point. I also don´t feel giddy about Seneca Wallace or Jake Delhomme for the rest of the season.
I suggest this plan of action: Lets hold an ex quarterback invitational during the week following next weekend´s game. Fly those 16 entities in, wine and dine them, and put them through the motions in a loose and friendly atmosphere. Lets see what they have left, and then. Well, extent like five contract offers for the rest of this season.
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For your viewing pleasure, at the peril of the trip down memory lane, let me jog your memory. In short order the 16 quarterbacks that have taken the helm for the Cleveland Browns since 1999:
Tim Couch, Kentucky
Ty Detmer, BYU
Doug Pederson, Northeast Lousiana
Spergon Wynn, Southeast Texas State
Kelly Holcomb, Middle Tennessee State
Jeff Garcia, San Jose State
Luke McGown, Louisiana Tech
Trent Dilfer, Florida State
Charlie Frye, Akron
Derek Anderson, Oregon State
Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
Ken Dorsey, Miami
Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo
Seneca Wallace, Iowa State
Jake Delhomme, Louisiana Lafayette
Colt McCoy, Texas
Dilfer was Fresno State, not Florida State.
I give you much props for finding pics of all these.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 3, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Luke McCown. Also, I think you forgot Ratliffe, didn’t he start a game last year?
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Nov 3, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He should have, considering who we were starting. Sadly, however, Ratliff never started last year.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
As much as I wish this were true, sadly it isn’t.
He started 4 games in 2004.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 4, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He meant Ratliffe on that part.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Nov 4, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, you are correct.
Nevermind, nothing to see here.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 4, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The pictures tell a story. Start Colt McCoy.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
I hope so. Jay Cutler from the whining Bears would suffice too though.
by mooncamping on Nov 4, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why no Delhomme or Wallace?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 7, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
please write more fanposts.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Ha. Punning on elsandito’s part based on this:
Colt McCoy has shown his meddle….
From m-w.com, mostly:
med·dle verb \ˈme-dəl\ — med·dledmed·dling\ˈmed-liŋ, ˈme-dəl-iŋ\
Definition of MEDDLE
intransitive verb
1: to interest oneself in what is not one’s concern : interfere without right or propriety — med·dler\ˈmed-lər, ˈme-dəl-ər\ noun
Example of MEDDLE
1. Please stop meddling with my Madden lineup, even though you mean well.
met·tle noun \ˈme-təl\
Definition of METTLE
1 a : vigor and strength of spirit or temperament
b : staying quality : stamina
2: quality of temperament or disposition <gentlemen of brave mettle — Shakespeare>
— met·tled\-təld\ adjective
— on one’s mettle
: aroused to do one’s best
Example of METTLE
1. This Sunday, our defense will test Brady’s mettle.
You probably meant mettle and not meddle, although MIDAS regards the subjective analysis of your word choices to be an art, not a science.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 6, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, you´re right, I guess it´s called mettle, and it´s more or less as stated in your quote. More importantly, might I expect you to carry a dictionary and a thesaurus now, to distinguish what I´m saying?
All MIDAS members carry a dictionary and thesaurus as basic survival gear. One’s personally compiled lexicon may actually be of more benefit, but all attempts to gather and edit such idiosyncratic documents into a standard organizational publication have broken down in doctrinal conflicts. Fear not, no annotated copy of Finnegans Wake is more scrutinized than your posts.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 7, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
A little misleading because a lot of these guys were never named our “starting quarterback.” Rather, they simply started games due to injury of the starting QB. I think a more accurate list would be as follows:
Detmer
Couch
Holcomb
Garcia
Dilfer
Frye
Anderson
Quinn
Delhomme
All these guys won the starting job. Still nothing to be proud of, obviously.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Nov 3, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, he runs like a buck, maybe we could utilize that.
by mooncamping on Nov 4, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Unless the other teams shine headlights at him.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Nov 4, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, you know, we´re losing. I think Cleveland still gives you a good chance to field 11 guys on each side of the ball, that give you a good chance to win a physical football game. A pow-wow is in order. I also don´t want Mike Holmgren for head coach, and it seems like that´s the silent trajectory.
Did you see that last night the IL governor race was Brady vs. Quinn?
Bugged me out when I saw it on the CNN ticker.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Let me guess, they both lost.
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by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
haha. So far this is actually kinda true because its been almost a day and there is no declared winner.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Prediction: They’ll recount the votes twice and then say ‘to hell with it’, and flip a coin. Brady and Quinn will take turns as Governor for a year until Brady gets fired and Quinn gets traded to Colorado for rufio and a handful of Myoplex coupons. Bank on it.
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by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Is that you as Pippen dunkfacing on Magic Johnson?
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 4, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s golan being “on fire”. It really could use the text “he’s on fire”. I’ll try harder next time.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
3 still on the team
1 TV announcer
3 still on other teams F$%#ing up as backups, posing as mascots or attempting to bang the team Mom.
1 on a minor league team and would orally pleasure Andy Reid at the drop of a hat for another chance to play with the Eagles.
8 Gas station managers…
There is a special place in hell for Steelers fans.
by CW78 on Nov 3, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Correction:
4 are on other teams.
Frye (on Oakland’s IR), Anderson, Quinn, Gradkowski.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
Luke McCown on Jaguars’ IR too.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 3, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The correction stands corrected, good call.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
LOL
That was an interesting read, I’d bet the Cards would pay us to take DA back.
Insted.
How about we get Ryan Leaf, very cheap at that, on a work release from jail?
I’m sorry to be a smart a$$ but my suggestion is on the same sanity level as former Browns QB try out day.
This sounds like something B19K would say.
Always take a risk for talent.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 4, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Where is your imagination. Probability that all these guys sucked? Minimal. Probability that their joints have atrophied? Slightly.
by mooncamping on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Couch won’t come back after we booed him and he cried.
There's a new sheriff in town, his name's McCoy
I think it may have been the cheering he heard as he struggled back to his feet after an injury that brought in Kelly Holcomb
That would be it.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Nov 5, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
To conclude, I think I like: Kelly Holcomb, Charlie Frye and Ken Dorsey and of course Colt McCoy. Any chance?
Tim Couch, Carlie Frye, and Colt McCoy for me.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Nov 5, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Charlie Frye was never going to be anything.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
whatever he was and whatever he could be is certainly better than DA or BQ
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
eh.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Nov 7, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Colt McCoy, is going to be the best quarterback, the Browns have had since the GREAT BERNIE KOSAR, period. Watch and see.
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That’s not saying much, because all he’d have to be is better that Testeverde.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Nov 5, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
While I find it fascinating we have started 16 QBs in 12 seasons, I’d like to see how that compares to other franchises not named Indy. Just for a reference sake.
The Bills are about as bad as us in the same time frame. The Patriots finally hit it with Brady. Hell, look at the damn Raiders.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 5, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Bills aren’t even close with 9 since ’99. This is what being broke on a Friday night does to you. I actually went through Wikipedia & counted. Below are all the double digits.
Cardinals – 10.
Panthers – 10.
Vikings – 11.
Broncos – 11.
Raiders – 12.
49ers – 12.
Redskins – 12.
Ravens – 13 (this one was a surprise; guess I’ve just gotten used to Joe Flacco)
Rams – 13.
Lions – 13.
Bears – 14.
Cowboys – 14.
Dolphins – 15.
Bucs – 15.
This list includes starts due to injuries.
Well, for the Ravens, the ones I can think of are Flacco, Dilfer, Smith, Boller, McNair… I mean that’s 5 right there.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 8, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget that being an expansion franchise, it is unfair to compare the new Browns to established teams. We were given extremely unfavorable conditions in the expansion draft. This inhibited our ability to protect a QB or establish any running game. We even had to settle for Lerner’s 4th choice for head coach because more proven coaches passed on the expansion gig.
Unfavorable conditions or not, it was up to our GM/coach to draft a complete team. We didn’t do that. Do any of you think that any of these guys wouldn’t have done better if those douches running the team had actually tried to build a real offensive line? Butch was the biggest douche of all, he passed on so many really good O line guys and went for the supposed glamour players. O line is not usually glamourous but JT makes it so, and we still need more like him. we want a consistent winner, fix the line.
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