Mangini Talks About Injuries, Browns Make Several Roster Moves

by Chris Pokorny on Dec 1, 2010 11:56 AM EST in Who Powered Through

In Wednesday morning's press conference, head coach Eric Mangini provided some updates on the injury front as the Cleveland Browns prepare for this week's game against the Miami Dolphins. Here is a brief recap:

Colt McCoy will not practice on Wednesday. As far as later in the week goes, Mangini said that him practicing is still up in the air. Regarding McCoy's health, Mangini noted, "From where we were last week to where we are now, we've made a pretty big jump."
Jake Delhomme will receive more first team reps than Seneca Wallace on Wednesday. That means Delhomme is favored to make his second straight start this Sunday.
Joshua Cribbs is not practicing on Wednesday, but Mangini expects him to be more involved this week. He said he thinks they will have Cribbs available both as a kick returner and as a wide receiver.
LB Scott Fujita, LB Eric Barton, FB Lawrence Vickers, CB Eric Wright, and S T.J. Ward will not practice Wednesday.

The Browns have also made some transactions recently, which a few of you have discussed in the Fanshots section already. If you missed them, the transactions are listed after the jump...

Recent Transactions

The Browns waived kick returner Clifton Smith. Taking Smith's spot is former Browns receiver Jordan Norwood. You might remember him from the preseason in 2009, before he was signed by the Philadelphia Eagles.
Remember the two hard-hitting safeties the Browns drafted in April? T.J. Ward and Larry Asante. Asante had been on the Browns' practice squad all season, but that's not the case anymore. He was signed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to their 53-man roster.
Taking his spot on the practice squad is another former member of the Browns...Coye Francies! While Francies might never get a shot at the NFL level, I have wanted to see how he would play and was bummed when he was let go. He was at a disadvantage this preseason because he was out for an injury for awhile. He played in the UFL after being released by Cleveland. The team he played for, Las Vegas, just won the league championship last week.

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What’s wrong with Vickers and Ward?

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 1, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions

Wondering the same thing, I didn’t know they were hurt.

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by Simmsinns on Dec 1, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions

I had noticed how few plays Vickers was in during the second half and was wondering if something was up with him. It would at least explain why he wasn’t in on some of those critical short rushing downs.

by dvbb on Dec 1, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions

Only you would be that excited to see Coye Francies signed to the practice squad. Never know when you will need some ice in the locker room. Only kidding – we definitely need an additional CB somewhere.

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by realmccoy on Dec 1, 2010 12:10 PM EST reply actions

Way OT – but have you guys been able to check out WR Justin Blackmon from Okie State? He is a red shirt sophmore that is a complete beast. I believe he had at least 1 TD and 100 yards in every game he played this year. Season totals are 102 catches, almost 1,700 yards. He is only 6-1 – but I have to tell you he is the most physical 6-1 speed receiver I have ever seen in my life.

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by realmccoy on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 PM EST reply actions

yes, and did you see J. Jones Alabama? that guy is the real deal…..we must get a dominant WR, and I want him in the first round this offseason…there are just too many that stand out, and we should be in a position to get one.

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by allsides on Dec 1, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

I keep hearing that Wallace is still hurt (from some posters and a couple of radio talking heads).

I’m looking at the team page / ‘official team site’ injury report page, and he isn’t listed.
Injury report link
Is this site not a reliable source?

I can’t find any information saying Wallace is still injured or not able to practice. (cleveland.com, etc. – sites I usually look at that seem reliable…)

Anyone know of a good source of info. on this?

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions

I think last week, Mangini referenced that Delhomme was at 100%, but Wallace was not. It might have to do with the fact that Delhomme isn’t mobile to begin with, where Wallace often relies on his mobility and thus is slightly behind in that regard. As to why Wallace isn’t listed on the injury report, I’m guessing he’s healthy enough to be a pocket passer.

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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 1, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions

i think mary kay cabot has said in various podcasts that wallace isn’t all the way back.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 1, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions

Seems to be a good stream of info here: cbssports.com ‘rapid-reports’
Doesn’t look good this week for Cribbs – apparently he didn’t practice Thursday.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 3, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions

Mangini is very secretive about all this, so there are no sources….he has been fined in the past for not following the league rules on reporting injuries.

Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day.

by allsides on Dec 1, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions

Regarding McCoy’s health, Mangini noted, “From where we were last week to where we are now, we’ve made a pretty big jump.”

Yaaaay!

by emily522 on Dec 1, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions

Mangini had indicated his injury wasn’t as severe as Delhomme’s or Wallace’s.
Also, he’s young – going to heal faster than someone 30+ years old.
Listening to Mangini lately it sounds like he wants to put McCoy back in asap.
I do hope they make sure he’s close to 100% before starting him though. Especially if he’s potentially going to be starting in winter weather down the stretch.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions

That thought hadn’t occurred to me. It is better to make sure he gets a couple games in the frigid weather to get the experience. What’s the coldest weather he has played in?

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by Spidey on Dec 1, 2010 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I’d say he hasn’t played much at all in really cold weather (in college).

But when you think about it, most college players really don’t get much play time in really cold weather because the college season is over by the end of November, except the conference championships which are around the first of December. And for the most part the (big) bowl games, which are played around the New Year are played in warm weather locations or domes.

I think the bottom line is as a rookie coming out of college he probably is on par with most other college players in the “cold weather” playing time department (keeping in mind Nebraska, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and Missouri are all in the Big 12 and Texas obviously has to play one or more of them on the road during any given year…).

That said, bottom line the kid grew up in Texas. It is probably valid to say he is ‘untested’ in frigid weather in general.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."
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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions

he needs that experience, yes, but i am not worried about this guy, he is as tough as they come.

Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day.

by allsides on Dec 1, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions

THIS

I’ve seen enough of McCoy to believe he’ll be able to handle it.

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"If you can't accept losing, you can't win." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions

in reality, there should have been the same questions if Bradford came here…but because he has a bit better of an arm, people didn’t seem to show significant worry about that.

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Dec 1, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions

Right.

(BTW, ok – I know I’m nitpicking here…
“a bit better of a deep ball” maybe – “a bit better of an arm”? Not.)

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions

No, I am pretty sure Bradford has a stronger arm.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions

like … a lot stronger

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions

I’ll be the last to deny Bradford’s arm / how good he is because I think he could be a potential great QB, and has a great arm.

My point is simply: ‘stronger’ NOT = ‘better’

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions

usually that is what people mean when they talk about a “better” arm.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 2, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions

I’m not sure what your point is. I think most football fans would agree that having a ‘good arm’ means a combination of accuracy and arm strength – with accuracy being the most important attribute.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions

nope. when someone says “he’s got a great arm”, they typically mean derek anderson (or someone like him). “good/great” arm refers to strength. when people talk about accuracy, they usually say stuff like “he’s really accurate”.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions

Whatever. We disagree.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 3, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions

I am pretty sure bross meant a stronger arm. Bradford’s pretty ridiculously accurate too.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t have any disagreement about Bradford’s talent.
He is extremely talented in every aspect as a QB. Great arm, head for the game, all the intangibles. As a Longhorns fan of course I watched the UT / OU games and also generally followed OU because of the huge rivalry they had with Texas. I was always very impressed with Bradford and think he great potential as an NFL QB.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions

He has (or is about to?) break Matt Ryan’s rookie record for yards and is pushing Mannings rookie records for completions and attempts, and could end up second in passing yards and touchdowns.

Kid is ridiculous. I really like McCoy and think he has the potential to be a really good QB in this league, but I would trade him straight up right now for Bradford without hesitation.

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by Kimble_79 on Dec 3, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions

Everyone seems to think somehow I am putting McCoy over Bradford.
I’m not. Bradford is a hell of a QB and I’ve said so many times in my posts. Go through and look at any of my posts on Bradford.
I don’t even necessarily even disagree with your statement about trading him. Bradford is a stud QB, no doubt about it.

But its easy to make the statement about ‘trading him straight up for McCoy’ right now because you have a much broader body of work to look at with Bradford – all of the pre-season and the entire season as the Rams starter.

Relatively speaking we’ve only gotten a glimpse of McCoy’s potential at this poing.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 3, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions

this *point.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 3, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions

I understood what you have been saying. I was just giving you my opinion. However, like you said, its still early to grade Colt.

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by Kimble_79 on Dec 3, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions

yes. Bradford has a very solid arm. If we were on an academic grading scale and C/75 was an “NFL Average” arm, I would put Bradford at about a 79/80 C+/B-. Solid arm, above average but nothing special. can make all the throws.

Colt, I see as a 74; a slight tick below average.

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Dec 3, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions

Dude, seriously, rec. You just gave a grade school percentage points grade to two QBs. Does Colt atleast get some extra credit for being a winner?

If we were on an academic grading scale and C/75 was an "NFL Average" arm, I would put Bradford at about a 79/80 C+/B-. S

Seriously, that’s awesome.

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Dec 3, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions

I didn’t consider Winner. If I included other aspects like being a tough leader and a winner, the ability to save a broken play etc…things that colt is good at, he would probably rise up to about a 79/80 range, whereas Bradford would be about an 82/83

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Dec 3, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

I’m confused. I can’t tell if you got my joke and just extended or if you missed it.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Dec 3, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions

I think I missed the fact that the whole thing was a joke. I did get the “winner” joke and tried to extend that. If the whole thing was a joke, then i missed it.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Dec 4, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions

Seriously, McCoy’s had all of 5 weeks of practice in the NFL with a first string. You are way jumping the gun on grading him. Give him at least another few months of action, not to mention a serious wide receiver or two before you start attempting to grade his arm in the NFL.

Bradford had the entire pre-season with the first string. Look at his first five regular season games:
Three games at home – against Arizona, Washington, and Seattle, a game at Oakland, a game at Detriot. Not exactly the NFL’s finest.
Eight interceptions. Six TDs. Eleven sacks. 56% completion pct.
Bradford has come on strong the last several games though, with the first half of the season (and the entire pre-season) under his belt. Now that I’ve seen that body of work, I’m ready to ‘grade’ Bradford as a solid if not outstanding NFL QB.

To be fair in making ‘grade’ comparisons you have to give Colt the same chance.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 3, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions

he was just grading arm strength.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 3, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions

exactly. There are a lot of things I like about him that I dunno how well bradford can do.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Dec 3, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions

Of course St. Louis plays in a dome and so do all their division team except SF, which is only cold by baseball standards.

by HenryDawg on Dec 3, 2010 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

QBs and Climate - the other side of the coin...

Re: climate and playing in ‘extreme’ weather conditions, etc.
In September Cleveland played at Tampa Bay. The temperature was in the low 90s.
In October they played in New Orleans. The temperature was in the low 80s.
Colt should be better conditioned for warmer / hotter climate games than his northern born counterparts. Just a thought (seems to be worth mentioning since the subject of ‘how he will hold up in cold weather’ comes up on occasion…).

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

I suspect that the game in New Orleans was played at about 72 degrees, since it was indoors at the Louisiana Superdome.

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by woodsmeister on Dec 1, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions

Whoops – forgot about that little detail…
(doubt they keep the climate control that cool down there in the dome – probably more like upper 70s I’d guess, but point taken).

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 1, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions

The difference is that Cleveland is 90+ and humid in the summer, so he at least has reps in the heat.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah – there’s been lots of chatter about whether McCoy will hold up when the snow / sub zero, etc. weather – how will he do? He’s from Texas. Fair point to be sure.

I was just pointing out that there is another side to that coin.
I remember watching part of a game back in September – frankly I don’t even remember who was playing, but I distinctly remember the announcers mentioning that the temperature was in the low 80s, and talking about how the ‘heat’ was going to be a factor and some of the players were struggling / cramping, etc.
Having lived in Austin for over 15 years I had to chuckle about that. Down there the weatherman doesn’t start using the word ‘hot’ until it reaches the mid-90s. Take it from me – I used to work out every day down there (running and cycling) regularly in the summer when it was in the mid to upper 90s or over 100 and it makes a big difference in your conditioning long term.
I figure McCoy won’t be ‘struggling’ in any sense of the word in ‘warm’ or ‘hot’ temps unless we’re talking 100 degree range / high humidity.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions

Doesn’t Texas have a much lower humidity level over your summer though. Humidty, not heat, is the killer up this direction of the US

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by Kimble_79 on Dec 2, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions

Most of Texas is relatively low humidity.
Not the case for Austin though (i.e. Univ. of Texas).
Austin is in south central Texas only about 100 miles from the Gulf of Mexico.
The Gulf of Mexico pushes an abundance of moisture up into south / south central Texas.
How close you are to the Gulf in Texas = how humid and much rainfall you get.
Here’s a good picture of what I’m talking about: Texas climate

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

slight correction:
~~How close you are to the Gulf in Texas~~
Proximity to the Gulf in Texas – i.e. the flow of gulf moisture tends to push north-northwest then flow up and to the east…
(when you live down there this stuff gets hammered into your head by the weather guys when the floods hit…)

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by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions

I live in the RGV in South Texas – hottest most humid place in the US. Try late August and Sept of temp 105 and humidity 90%. Full body sweat if you let out a one cheek sneak.

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by realmccoy on Dec 2, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions

…Yeah, I walked out of work yesterday to a car with frozen locked doors. Jackass.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I prefer the cold to the heat. you can always put on more clothes, but you can only take so many off.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 2, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions

That’s what pools and AC are for, but then again I have arthritis so I’d prefer a warmer climate.

his pick sexes put us over the top

by North Coast Flea on Dec 2, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions

I grew up in Illinois. Woke up one day at 3am when I was 17, living in a mobile home and it was about 30 below outside – gas lines had frozen, had no heat.
Moved to South Texas – lived there for over 20 years.
Five years ago (living in Austin) I went to an outdoor music festival at the end of September. It was 108 degrees. That was one of the last straws for me. (ACL Festival – see under ‘Weather’).
Moved to Raleigh-Durham, NC a few years ago.
Would be hard for me to have to pick between moving back to extreme cold or back to extreme heat – not fond of either.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions

Interesting. I just took a look at the ACL festival link (from my post – its a wikipedia page…)
Someone removed the ‘Weather’ section the same day I posted the link (I checked the version history).
There’s been a big controversy down there about having it in September because of the heat. I’m betting the promoters removed the section – makes me wonder if they actually monitor inbound links or if its just a coincidence.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 4, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions

I like sleeping in a cold room and September climate, but winter in Kent is an extreme bitch.

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by SpecialBrownie on Dec 2, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions

As a snow belt dweller I don’t want to hear any complaining.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 3, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions

kent is a wind tunnel… and even though you may get more snow when its 20 or less and the wind cuts through KSU campus it aweful… but i still would take it over 90’s and humid

by crazyL80 on Dec 3, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions

I’ll take 90s and humid.

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by rufio on Dec 4, 2010 2:56 AM EST up reply actions

This.

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by Simmsinns on Dec 4, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions

no way.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 4, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

I retract my “This.”

I just watch one of the most epic games that I’ve ever seen in person (OHSAA football, D1: St. Eds vs. Huber Hts.), it was 28 degress (20 with windchill) and snowing in Canton, Ohio. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Braxton Miller is a BEAST, by the way! (Huber still lost a crazy close one though.)

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by Simmsinns on Dec 4, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions

OSU has a recruit on St. Eds too, right?

What was the score/what did you see out of Miller?

I love watching football in the cold, but if I have to be outside in it and not watching football, I’ll take the 90s and humid.

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by rufio on Dec 6, 2010 4:10 AM EST up reply actions

agreed

by crazyL80 on Dec 3, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions

There is a difference, though. Colt has never played in the kind of snow he would face at home in the winter in Cleveland.

Cold weather teams traveling to, say, Miami in the winter and cramping is an issue of being acclimated, not of never having experienced something.

I’ve lived in many different climates and when I go back to some of them now after being acclimated to where I am now, I can’t take it like I used to.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions

Like I said, it is definitely fair to question how Colt will play in the snow or frigid weather. I agree with that. I’ll be interested to see how he does.
I was just speculating that in very warm weather games, there may be a slight advantage to the fact that Colt is from Texas since he is probably very will acclimated and conditioned for hot weather.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions

He will at least have been in that situation before. Texas is HOT, so he’ll likely have experienced hotter than anything he’ll play in for an NFL game.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions

i live in the sun and warm now … and i literally can’t go outside in cleveland when i’m home for christmas. it’s pathetic.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions

I seem to remember an article earlier in the year when McCoy said he had played in cold weather before, like as low as 45 degrees even!

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by notthatnoise on Dec 1, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions

Lol.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions

He grew up and played all his high school ball in West Texas. Home of the largest wind farms in the US – terrible weather. In addition, he lead a nice win in Nebraska as a freshman – driving snow storm. Texas Tech – terrible place to play. That is about it.

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by realmccoy on Dec 2, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions

Definitely need him fully recovered if he is likely to come in with El Matador at RT. The boy will have some running to do.

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by JustBob on Dec 1, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs

REC for “El Matador at RT”

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by Kimble_79 on Dec 2, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions

isn’t it amazing how one person has changed the whole mentality of a fan base? I feel the same way you do! The game was just OK watching without him in there…haven’t felt this way about a QB since Kosar(which I was 6,7 when he came here)

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by allsides on Dec 1, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions

McCoy's a stud

Lived in Austin 26 years, Son’s a Senior @ UT. Followed Horns every play for 20 years, McCoy as good as it gets. All the results of Young, none of the drama. Great kid, hardest worker ever. Program’s lost after 7 years of Young/McCoy, absolutely lost.

Y’all have gained 10’s-of-thousands of Browns fans here in Texas this season, we’re excited too. Hoping for a long, successful relationship for McCoy, the Browns & us. Trade for Shipley & you can start printing 2011 playoff tickets. Go Browns!

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by Cardsfansince62 on Dec 1, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions

A fellow Texan as well – I have always admired that while Colt was an All American player at Texas – he was even a better person and role model.

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by realmccoy on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions

+1

by sahyouni on Dec 3, 2010 4:49 AM EST up reply actions

Hello, Sabby Piscatelli. Some more defensive backfield help from the waiver wire.

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by woodsmeister on Dec 1, 2010 4:39 PM EST reply actions

From the Plain Dealer:

Piscitelli, 27, was a second-round pick of the Bucs out of Oregon State in 2007, but never lived up to expectations.

Piscitelli was the Bucs starting strong safety last season, but missed about 19 tackles and was replaced by former Browns safety Sean Jones. Sunday against the Ravens, Piscitelli replaced injured rookie safety Cody Grimm, but apparently blew an assignment on a 65-yard touchdown catch by tight end Todd Heap.

He sounds like the perfect addition to our secondary! :p So, we basically swapped Asante for Piscitelli it sounds like.

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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 1, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

Sabby was apparently the worst tackler in the league last year (most likely edging out BMac

by Roger Dorn on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

We’re so screwed. (re: our Qb situation)

we need to stack up our (already decent) O-line.

this is reminding me of the end of…last year? when we went through DA, Quinn and Ratfill and had to start Joe Blow.

this shouldn’t be a yearly occurance.

by discoinferno083 on Dec 1, 2010 8:48 PM EST reply actions

No quarterback other than DA and Quinn took a snap last year.

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by golanbatrac on Dec 1, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions

Yup. Ratty has never taken a regular season snap for the Browns. You must be thinking of the year before when we started DA, BQ, Ken Dorsey & Bruce Gradkowski. Funny thing is that in retrospect Gradkowski was clearly the best of them and he was our desparation guy that we picked up after losing DA & BQ.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 1, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions

yes.

Dorsey sounds familar.

still my point remains… is this coincedence, or does it suggest we can use one more stud on o-line? or at least better depth.

by discoinferno083 on Dec 1, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions

Probably youth. We’ve had decent depth this year, but tons of injuries. We could use a stud at RT, though.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions

Dorsey was around to be a mentor to the two youngsters & it might be a stretch to say Gradkowski was the best, after all he ended up starting for the Raiders…

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by LondonBrown on Dec 2, 2010 6:18 AM EST up reply actions

I know that is the reason Dorsey was on the team but that always puzzled me. Who the f was Ken Dorsey? He was never even a decent QB. He never was a regular starter. I never understood why the hell he was supposed to be a mentor. I know Bernie liked him though.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions

Dorsey got shell – shocked after playing in San Fran and it screwed him from there on.

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by SpecialBrownie on Dec 2, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions

Where does this line of thinking come from. It’s up above with Couch as well. These guys didn’t get shellshocked, they sucked. Especially Dorsey, he played in 9 games in San Fran and was a 7th round draft pick.

Wait a minute.

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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Dec 2, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions

He liked him because he was from the U

by HenryDawg on Dec 3, 2010 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

I found it funny that he was the “vet” presence on the team because he had what 1 season over Frye and 2 over Anderson?

his pick sexes put us over the top

by North Coast Flea on Dec 3, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions

it had everything to do with his purported intelligence. i never met the guy, so i can’t comment on whether he was actually smart or not, but that was why they liked him. he could teach.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions

DA and BQ were Joe Blow.

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by realmccoy on Dec 2, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions

DA and BQ ~~were Joe~~ Blow.

Fixed

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by Kimble_79 on Dec 2, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs

Why would we hog Piscatelli, when we already have a dozen defensive backs vying for playing time? Glaring omission continuously, linebackers quicker than a sloth.

by mooncamping on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions