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Browns Fail to Score an Offensive Touchdown in 13-6 Loss to Bills

ORCHARD PARK NY - DECEMBER 12:  Peyton Hillis #40 of the Cleveland Browns fumbles as he tries to jump over Paul Posluszny #51 of the Buffalo Bills at Ralph Wilson Stadium on December 12 2010 in Orchard Park New York. Buffalo won 13-6.  (Photo by Rick Stewart/Getty Images)

CLEVELAND BROWNS (5-8) GAME #13 BUFFALO BILLS (3-10)
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Things were looking up after Cleveland's 13-10 victory over the Miami Dolphins two weeks ago, but Sunday's offensive gameplan against the Buffalo Bills put a sour taste in everyone's mouth. Cleveland failed to score an offensive touchdown the first time this season, against a team that was by far the worst at defending the run in the league.

Let's get to the review of this week's game, starting with the goats and then the game balls. I already trashed offensive coordinator Brian Daboll in my post-game review, so I will try to restrain myself here.

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WEEK 14 - CLEVELAND BROWNS VS. BUFFALO BILLS (COMPLETE GAME REVIEW)

Goats of the Game:

  • Brian Daboll: For obvious reasons.
     
  • Peyton Hillis: It is a shame that I had to list Hillis here for the game that he went over 1,000 yards rushing on the season during. However, he put the ball on the ground three times during the game, losing one of them. On the one he lost, I think it ended up being a real momentum shifter in giving the Bills' defense at least a little bit of confidence. Imagine how down they would have been if Hillis had bowled them over two drives in a row?

Awarding the Game Balls:

  • Chris Gocong: I had a tough time finding a game ball to give, so I went with the defensive player who made the big play: Gocong came from the blind side and forced a sack+fumble on the Bills' first offensive drive, giving Cleveland great field position after Eric Wright scooped up the football. Gocong also led the Browns with 10 combined tackles.

General Thoughts:

  1. Great Start to the Ground Game: My high hopes for Peyton Hillis were only elevated on the team's opening drive, when Hillis started the game with gains of 7, 4, 25, and 8 yards. The Browns were wisely committed to running the football, and I didn't have a problem with the Browns staying with the run on 2nd-and-goal from the two and 3rd-and-goal from the one. It was surprising that the Browns couldn't get into the end zone, but kicking the field goal was understandable at the time: it seemed like Cleveland could have their way on the ground in a low-scoring game.
     
  2. Still Not Too Bad: Mid-way through the second quarter, I still wasn't terribly low on the Browns' offense. After a couple of stalled drives (Hillis' fumble and a three and out), the Browns got Jake Delhomme to connect on passes of 34 yards to Mohamed Massaquoi and 15 yards to Brian Robiskie. Cleveland had to settle for another short field goal, but the offense looked good.
     
  3. Reign Everything In: After that drive, Brian Daboll seemed to go into a shell for some reason. His run-pass distribution wasn't necessarily bad, but when a passing play was called, or when he didn't want seem to think the Browns could run the ball in 3rd-and-manageable situations, I couldn't comprehend what he was trying to accomplish.
     
    He didn't try to play to the weaknesses of the opponent, nor did he try to play to the strengths of our offense. The gameplan set the Browns up to fail, and without a mobile quarterback under center, there was no one available to bail Daboll out of the poorly planned gameplan.
     
  4. Delhomme Going Deep: I heard some complaints about the way Jake Delhomme played. I'm not going to forgive the way he played, but I thought the camera gave a clear view of some of the receivers' routes for once, and I could see why Delhomme was frustrated and couldn't get the ball downfield -- all of the routes saw the receivers crowd each other or fail to run past the line of scrimmage.
     
    Delhomme did underthrow Massaquoi early in the game on a deep pattern, but you know what? The pass was still completed. I would rather have Daboll call for those deep shots throughout the game than to sit in a shell. Delhomme isn't going to light it up downfield, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of it.
     
  5. Wallace Sees Two Plays: Partially due to the incompetence of the CBS announcing crew for Sunday's game, I only thought Seneca Wallace was under center for one play during the game. I didn't realize that he was the quarterback who handed off to Hillis on the third overall play of the game though. On that play, Hillis broke a 25-yard run down the left sideline. On the Browns' other field goal drive, Wallace came in and handed off to Hillis for a nice 8-yard gain.
     
    We didn't see Wallace enter the game the rest of the way. If the Browns are going to operate with Wallace more than twice a game, I see how the formation makes sense. For them not to do anything out of it the rest of the game made the use of the formation almost pointless to me. Are we trying to set up something for future weeks? I don't care about setting up plays down the road so much as I do setting it up for the game we're already struggling in.
     
  6. Not Much Else to Say: I honestly don't know what else I can say about the offense because the playcalling was so bad. I will comment on one other play: in the fourth quarter, the Browns had one play that could have sparked them. The play broke down, Delhomme rolled out and had some time, and Robert Royal decided to turn up field, much like Evan Moore has done at times this season. Delhomme threw him the ball well, but Royal, a player not known for catching the ball exceptionally well, couldn't hang on. I at least credit Royal for trying to go upfield -- you get the feeling many of our other receivers would be content just staying short of the marker as called.
     
  7. Haden and Elam Shine: I loved seeing Joe Haden break up a pass on 4th-and-2 on the Bills' second drive of the game. He picked up right where he left off against Miami, and I don't think Ryan Fitzpatrick tried targeted him much more. Abram Elam came up with an awesome hit to break up a pass on Fred Jackson in the fourth quarter, continuing the string of games with impact plays from Elam.
     
  8. Credit to the Bills' Offensive Line: For having a patchwork offensive line, the Bills deserve a lot of credit working with what they had. Fitzpatrick was only sacked twice, and when the Browns did bring a free blitzer, he was able to use his mobility to run for first downs. I was concerned about that before the game, and sure enough he took off 4 times for 49 yards. Fred Jackson also ran for over 100 yards, and even C.J. Spiller was effective when used.
     
  9. Good Gameplanning: I don't think it was dumb luck that the Bills targeted their tight ends for big plays a couple of times. Cleveland's defensive backs have been having better coverage on receivers, and with the Bills' patchwork offensive line, they probably assumed the Browns would bring some extra pressure and blow off the tight end on certain plays. Tight end Jonathan Stupar was the Bills' leading receiver with 3 catches for 45 yards. They also got fullback Corey McIntyre involved on a nice 14-yard connection.
     
  10. Lone Touchdown Pass: When the Bills hit receiver David Nelson for a 11-yard touchdown pass, the play looked almost identical to the one the Dolphins ran last week for their only touchdown of the game. In both cases, Mike Adams was in coverage. I'd rather have him back there than Ray Ventrone, but it's something other teams will target if it doesn't get fixed.
     
  11. Kick Returns: When Joe Haden returned kicks earlier this season, he added that excitement that made you think he could break a big one. When Mike Bell breaks the opening kickoff for 31 yards after a short kickoff to begin with, coupled with the fact that Joshua Cribbs still hasn't had a return like that, it just makes you long for the "old" Cribbs more and more. Last year, this is the type of game where a punt return by Cribbs would swing the momentum into Cleveland's favor for a victory. It just isn't happening.
     
  12. Special Teams Tackles: Safety T.J. Ward led the Browns with three special teams tackles. Eric Alexander had two tackles and Mike Adams had one. C.J. Spiller did have a big 33 yard punt return.
     
  13. Delhomme's Fumble: I understand the rule, but when Jake Delhomme fumbled and the call on the field was an incomplete pass, the whistle seemed to blow immediately. There were more Bills in the area, but I saw at least one Browns player somewhat close. Who is to say that if that player knew the ball was live that they wouldn't have dove at the ball and created a scrum? After all, I never thought Joshua Cribbs would recover the fumble on a reverse, but he did. I think the rule is for whistles that blow during simultaneous recovery, not for when there is a clear amount of time that passes after the ball is loose.
     
  14. Brownies: I wish I had more bullet points, but the offense left me nothing more to speak of...Phil Dawson and Reggie Hodges each performed their duties fine...it seemed a little surprising that a spy wasn't assigned to Fitzpatrick more often...besides the poor playcalling, Cleveland has had a weird cloud hanging over their heads any time it rains during a game.

Hopefully by the end of the season, this is the game that we can look back at and kind of sweep under the rug. There is a chance that Colt McCoy will return this week, something that can be a huge boost to the offense and the patience of the fans. Cleveland really can't eliminate the Steelers or the Ravens from playoff contention, but with three straight division games coming up, Eric Mangini knows that he needs to make one final strong push to keep his job for next season -- especially with Jon Gruden possibly open to coaching next year.

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So depressing.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 14, 2010 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, sorry if the review was crap too. Like you said, I didn’t even feel like writing a recap. Normally it is a breeze for me to get through 18-20 bullet points.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Dec 14, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I could feel the struggle in just reading that. It was such a nothing game from the O wasn’t it?

Welcome Joe!
Go Seneca!

by LondonBrown on Dec 14, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t blame you.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Dec 16, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m literally done with this.

i’m only checking the site once a day to see if/when Daboll gets fired.

then, we’ll see.

by discoinferno083 on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Daboll seems incapable of putting together a coherent 4 quarter game plan. No creativity or complexity.
No adjustments of any consequence coming out of the locker room after half time.

Chris I disagree with your assessment of the end of the first drive. The 3rd down play was predictable and had little chance of success, and IMHO they should have gone for the TD on 4th down. (then again, evidently Daboll had no clue at that point how to construct a play to get the ball into the end zone, so ok, 3 points it is…).

I don’t know what to think about Mangini, but I think Daboll is history at the end of the season.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 14, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

BTW – Good write-up Chris. Always enjoy reading them.
(aside from my different take on the end of the first drive… ;)

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 15, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I was mulling over the quality of our players on either side of the line and think the O has as much quality- if not more- than the defense. It can’t be all down to the O being so dependant on the QB so the discrepancy I’d say is coaching- Ryan is very good, Daboll ain’t.

Starters I could live with:

O: LT Thomas, LG Steinbach, OC Mack, RT Womack, TE Watson, RB Hillis, FB Vickers. Of whom I’m really happy to have Thomas, Mack & Hillis.

D: NT Rubin, DL Rogers, LB Fujita, S Ward, CB Haden, CB Brown.
Of whom I’m really happy with Rogers, Haden & Ward.

Ryan is geting huge mileage out of some very average linebackers imo.

Welcome Joe!
Go Seneca!

by LondonBrown on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Ryan is geting huge mileage out of some very average linebackers imo.

I concur.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Dec 16, 2010 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Offensive Line

To me it seems the right side is very weak. At best the become average. Joe Thomas for all that he is and he is very very good, to me has had some below average games this year. It seems to me it is feat or famine with the O Line this year. I am afraid 2/5 of the line needs to be upgraded to have the solid line we need.

Next question. Do the Browns draft a quarterback as a back up or third Quarterback or Make a trade or acquire a veteran to back up McCoy if that is who they decide to go with next year. (two young quarterbacks to me is very unlikely, so maybe acquire a competent veteran?) I am assuming most think Delhomme is done as a player. If Wallace is not starting infront of Delhomme now will Wallace be on the roster next year? Comments? Thoughts?

by champion64 on Dec 14, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

I’d project McCoy as starter, Wallace as backup and Delhomme in a mentoring role at most.

OL depends a bit on Louvao’s development. I can live with pork chop at RT & steinbach at LG but we will need to splice in some youth behind those two for the future.

Welcome Joe!
Go Seneca!

by LondonBrown on Dec 14, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i would cut delhomme out of your scenario, and insert a rookie taken in the 6/7th round as the 3rd qb.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 15, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I really think if we get a RT, the RG is easy to find.

I believe this is Mangini’s philosophy as well.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Dec 16, 2010 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

plus, b/w yates and lauvao it seems that there may be a competent RG already in the building.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 16, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I would call Womack a competent RG

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Dec 17, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly; there are a number of players who we could plug in there and be OK. Womack is surprisingly (because I don’t think he is a great athlete in space on the edge) the only guy we have who seems to be passable at RT.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Dec 18, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Why has no one mentioned that Daboll is bad and Delhomme makes it worse?!?!?

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Not arguing with you especially about Delhomme. One thing though with McCoy at least it seemed the offense under Daboll worked a little better. McCoy has a 85 Quarterback rating. Remember also McCoy is a rookie with limited work so for him to play well maybe the system is not horrible. I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH, and Daboll may go. I am not a fan of Daboll.

by champion64 on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah the combination of the two of them is totally sickening. Daboll is so bland and delhomme is just a poor decision maker with zero scrambling ability. That seems like something that we should be preferring if we don’t have a breakout wide receiver.

your quote is awesome by the way.

The only reason Joe Thomas didn’t catch that ball was because the ball was too afraid to come near him.

by the_fox_and_the_browns on Dec 15, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

neither one I believe is truly terrible on their own. Daboll’s gameplan actually looked competent at times with colt in there, and Delhomme has done well under competent OCs (his problem last year was confidence anyways…and Carolina doesn’t have that good of an OC to begin with)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Dec 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Come on, McCoy is overrated!

I live about an hour outside of Austin, and look how much we improved once we dumped him and Shipley.

On a serious note, I hope CM is ready to go for the Bangles, almost as much as I hope both ocho uno and johnson get a very solid hello from Ward.

by CaptainPorkchop on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

I believe you are trying to illicitate sarcasm?

Stuckey watch: 31/30. Haha! I AM SET YOU UP THE BOMB!!!!

by BrownDawg1409 on Dec 15, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Illicitate?

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 15, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It means to commence.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 15, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, didn’t know we were going for the spelling of the word, just the definition. Continue.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 15, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

ostentatious

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that really a word? isn’t it just elicit?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Dec 15, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I checked, elicitate is a word. a form of elicit.

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 17, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

well, you learn something every day.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Dec 18, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure he meant “elicit”.

"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 15, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just gonna get it out there.

I hate double d’s

(delhomme & daboll)

The only reason Joe Thomas didn’t catch that ball was because the ball was too afraid to come near him.

by the_fox_and_the_browns on Dec 15, 2010 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

Daboll needs to go. Seriously. He won’t until the end of the season I don’t think, but he just can NOT be allowed to stay. He’d definitely be in the running for worst OC in the league (I think)

by shep615 on Dec 15, 2010 1:46 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t know if I would call him the worst, but yes, he should be fired after the season.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

The lack or progression from Daboll is unfortunate. Over a year of experience under his belt as O.C. and he’s still not improving. The passing routes were just vexing.

This game was incredibly uninspiring. I know Fred Jackson is solid but how did he seem to get 5+ yards every time he touched the ball with a patchwork o-line blocking for him? Buffalo flipped the tables and beat us the same way we thought we’d beat them.

Apologies if any of this has been discussed already. Been busy and I missed the “Instant Re-cap” thread.

Good write-up Chris, especially for a suck week like this.

by Monsters of the Midway on Dec 15, 2010 6:52 AM EST reply actions  

Damn it’s been a long week. Can’t get this bad game out of my head.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 15, 2010 7:36 AM EST reply actions  

You and me both. I’m going to make a conscious effort try to forget Sunday’s abomination and look ahead to the Bungles.

Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 15, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

agree completely. It has been awful this week. I’m in such a funk that I’m feeling we may lose to Cincinnati this week. can’t shake the negativity for some reason.

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 15, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

MCCOY’S GONNA BE BACK THOUGH! =D

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 15, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, same problem for me. Monday was awesome, but that faded away quickly, and the reality of finals week hit.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you gonna do any write-ups on our UDBN League?

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to try very hard. The other write ups I’ve attempted were all scraped because I realized breaking down 14 teams that I hadn’t been following individually wasn’t practical. Now it’s just four teams and 2 head-to-head matchups, so I should be able to do it. It’ll likely be Friday, possibly Thursday, worst case scenario Saturday.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Sucks for you. Because of the snow, I was allowed to opt out of one of my finals if I was satisfied with my grade.

I only have one final tomorrow. And it’s basically a sociology variant. Breaks already here for me haha.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 15, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

For me 2 were online, the other is a massive take home (Spanish), that will take me about 4-5 hours in front of Google Translate. Also have some assignments to make up for one of the online classes.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Make sure you put some voodoo jinx on StuckInPA when you write it up. Dude is hard to beat this year.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I beat him.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 15, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet! We don’t want him having any momentum coming into the playoffs.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Scraped? As in aborted?

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Dec 15, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot on.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Daboll and Delhomme need to go probably Mangini and get Gruden draft 2 WRs some offensive line a LB and get another good CB

by Luke C on Dec 15, 2010 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

Gruden is not coming here. Out of the draft ideas, I agree…but how many of them would pan out? This is really a case of needing to weather the storm a bit. We’ve, sort of, maybe, climbed out of the basement of the NFL but now we get to decide if we want to be in ‘no man’s land’ or make some moves beyond the NFL Draft; free agency is key to moving to a playoff level. At the draft level, Julio Jones is almost a “must-get” for us. Free agency is cloudy, who do you think?

There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you.
- Woody Hayes

by Culp's Freaking Hill on Dec 15, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Gruden is not coming here.

…why are you so emphatic about that?

If Mangini goes, and Gruden decides to come back to coaching (which are 2 big ‘ifs’ of course) there’s no reason to think Cleveland wouldn’t have an excellent chance to land him

by johnnyphoenix on Dec 15, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun Pretend Time

If you were a Superbowl winning coach who now had a real sweet gig at MNF, and also a series tearing apart, friendly-like, soon-to-be rookie QB’s…would you want to come coach the Browns?

Oh, there’s also this:

Gruden said of coaching Miami: “That was not something I wanted to do. I’m excited with where I am and that’s the bottom line.”

Jon Gruden said he was committed to “Monday Night Football” and it appears that a meeting with the University of Miami athletic director didn’t change his mind.

There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you.
- Woody Hayes

by Culp's Freaking Hill on Dec 15, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

According to his son ‘Deuce’, it’ll be 2012 at the earliest. Duece is to finish high school before the senior Jon moves the family.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Dec 15, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you misspelled it – it’s “Douche”

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 17, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see Gruden coming here nor do I want him to.

I follow Tampa pretty closely and have seen most of their games with Gruden as HC. He had what 5 or 6 years after the Super Bowl win and he never developed a QB or even much of an offense.

I don’t consider him much/any of an upgrade over Mangini.

So long as Mangini agrees to replace Daboll and Delhomme I would like him to come back.

Remember, we have dealt with a ton of injuries this year. IMO, just Cribbs in good health = at least 1 more win.

Message to Brian Daboll: RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!

by mgtbfb on Dec 15, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

daboll has had to deal w/ many of the same injuries.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 15, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

nothing like a loss to Buffalo to make the sky fall down.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Dec 15, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

Sky is falling because if a good team looks past a team and gets surprised by a bad team (ie Saints losing to the Browns with all the trick plays) they can rebound. THIS Browns team cannot even think about looking past anyone, and they were outplayed by a bad football team. Buffalo is not a good football team. Much like Detroit and Carolina. The Browns should have handled this team. If the defense could hold Buffalo to less than 14 points there is no reason this Browns team should not have won this game. Buffalo’s defense is not good. So yes the sky is falling, WE ARE NOT WHO WE THOUGHT WE WERE. HA!

by champion64 on Dec 15, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

They took the Steelers to OT . I think they are better than we gave them credit for. This is what happens when you let your guard down in the NFL. They find ways to stay in the game and have all season. We find ways to play up or down to our opponents level but we do not have a true identity or game plan. Place the blame where you will…

Resident of Believeland.

by browndawgbacker on Dec 15, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

THIS Browns team Every team in the NFL cannot even think about looking past anyone

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Dec 16, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

*passed.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 16, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Dec 16, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure “past” is the right way.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 16, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Past is the correct way when denoting time.

I was just saying, it bugs me. If I am wrong, please let me know.

ROHC THE SOHC.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 17, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Beats me

One of the Fins players said he was in complete shock because he thought they were going to crush the Browns. That is just bad coaching if that is the case.

by Villeslgr on Dec 17, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

“past” is correct

“passed” is the past tense of the verb “to pass”

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 17, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

pass
– verb (used with object)
1. to move past; go by: to pass another car on the road.
2. to discharge or void from the body: His grimace did not betray him as he silently passed gas while quarterback called the play in the huddle.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 18, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we really should go root for Buffalo.

Stuckey watch: 31/30. Haha! I AM SET YOU UP THE BOMB!!!!

by BrownDawg1409 on Dec 15, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

OT: my fantasy team is about to die due to injuries.

by emily522 on Dec 15, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

Aaron Rodgers is probably out. Steve Smith is done for the season. Chris Ivory is questionable, and so are Manningham and DeSean Jackson.

Fabulous.

by emily522 on Dec 15, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Playoffs start this week and doggrad has Rodgers, so I’m quite giddy about that. Manningham however, I have and I am not so giddy about that!

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

My receiving core has been pummeled all year. Andre Johnson went down earlier this season, Austin Collie was out by Week 8, Steve Smith (NYG) stopped scoring in Week 9, Steve Johnson has a fragile little mind, Bradon Lloyd lost McDaniels.

Sad state of affairs for my WRs.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m down to starting Deion Branch, and possibly Woodhead at WR. Awful situation for an 8-team league with three WR slots.

I am the #1 seed though, finished 11-3.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice…I’ve kept Ocho on my team thru the entire year, reluctantly. Harvin won’t stop getting headaches, so I’m pretty beat up there as well. Starting Derrick Mason (who went nuts on Monday), and Ocho for this playoff matchup unless Manningham miraculously recovers before Sunday.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Dec 15, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

actually… given everyone else’s situation and the way the Pats are turning it on…. you have nothing to complain about.

by discoinferno083 on Dec 15, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m referring to my $ league (8-team league with three WR slots).

Even with the Pats tearing it up, thats are bad WR core.

a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass

by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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