Colt McCoy Set to Receive Some First Team Reps Today, Decision by Thursday?
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 15, 2010 11:29 AM EST
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PrintAccording to head coach Eric Mangini, he would like to announce the team's plans at starting quarterback when he meets with the media on Thursday. The reason for the delay is that he wants to evaluate how Colt McCoy does in Wednesday's practice. McCoy is expected to see some first team reps Wednesday, so unless something seriously goes wrong during practice, it sounds like the rookie is in line to reclaim the starting role at the Browns close out the season with three division games.
Mangini also mentioned that regardless of who starts at quarterback, Seneca Wallace would probably be the No. 2 quarterback due to the special offensive packages they have available for him. That doesn't mean they will use him more in my opinion, but rather that it's better to have the option of using him. If he was the inactive third quarterback, Cleveland loses that luxury.
Players missing Wednesday's practice include DL Shaun Rogers, LB Scott Fujita, LB David Bowens, and TE Evan Moore. The Browns made a transaction yesterday, promoting CB Coye Francies to the 53-man roster. To make room for Francies, the team waived CB Eric King.
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It´s kind of sad Colt McCoy is culled back up for the cheap games of non contention. But what the heck. He needs to keep showing “how” he intends to play quarterback.
The other priority is maintaining the roster. Upon viewing it, I had to realize it´s pretty thick. Nary an incapable guy on it. You know what I think about the behemoth linebackers, but I know you consider them roadblocks other teams must run to, due to some kind of magical agreement. We need to shuffle it up with greater and greater talent.
It´s kind of sad Colt McCoy is culled back up for the cheap games of non contention.
The more experience/playing time he gets the better. (as long as he is absolutely 100% healthy).
Upon viewing it, I had to realize it´s pretty thick.
Thaaaat’s what she said
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 15, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Games against Baltimore and Pittsburgh are hardly “cheap”. Especially when the last 3 games could determine Mangini’s fate.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Dec 15, 2010 5:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
People keep saying this about the last three games, and I have to say it again, I would hope that our PFO is smarter than to judge the fate of our HC on a whim like like 3 games at the end of a lost season.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Dec 16, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
No, he won’t be judged entirely on the last three games of the season, but those three games will be considered along with the rest of the season. Winning 2 of those 3 games makes the season look much different than losing all three.
After all, people made a big deal of the Browns winning their last 4 games under Mangini last season and used that as an indication that the team was headed in the right direction, so by the same logic wouldn’t losing the last 4 games of this season (if it were to happen) indicate that we might be headed in the wrong direction?
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 16, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Right, that’s the reality of the situation.
by Western Reserve on Dec 16, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
This is true. 3 games have a big impact on the overall W-L record. 6-10 or 9-7, big difference.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Except we have 8 losses.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 16, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I used that 3 game swing because it illustrated a difference between potentially being in the playoffs and having a winning record and having no shot at the playoffs and having a pretty poor record. Not because that was where we could end up.
Similar things could be said about 5-11 and 8-8 but I feel the perception difference is greater between 6-10 and 9-7.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
That´s what I was saying above, why don´t we hang onto good people for a change.
by mooncamping on Dec 16, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Has there been any reports as to when Fujita is expected back. Our defense is really missing his presence it seems. Also to moon above…I REALLY hope we pick up a speedy, strong, OLB this offseason. I know that would make your day.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
Fujita – not looking promising for this week
"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 15, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like a good chance next week againts the ravens, steelers……we will need all the help we can get AND eric wright out of the lineup to win those.
Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day.
by allsides on Dec 15, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds promising for Colt. Hurrah!
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 15, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions
McCoy is back so long Delhomme
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
Hell no. No. No. No.
We fired Savage years ago. We don’t do dumb stuff like that anymore.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 15, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Absolutely not. We don’t trade up and we don’t reach for positions, we pick the best available player. Heckert is pretty damn good at this too!
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
During Heckert’s tenure with the Eagles, the team drafted or acquired 10 players who would go on to earn Pro Bowl status, including kicker David Akers, defensive lineman Trent Cole, wide receiver DeSean Jackson, offensive lineman Jason Peters, cornerback Asante Samuel and fullback Leonard Weaver, all of whom were selected to the 2010 Pro Bowl. Of the 22 Eagles starters at the end of the 2009 season, 13 were draft choices of the team during Heckert’s tenure while two more were signed as undrafted free agents. In fact, three players from the club’s 2009 draft class were among the 13.
Love that we have this guy drafting.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
by Simmsinns on Dec 15, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
See also LeSean McCoy.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 15, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
While Phil Savage was with the baltimore ravens, they drafted Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, Chris McAllister, Peter Boulware, Jamal Lewis, Todd Heap, Ed Reed and Terrell Suggs.
Was Phil Savage in charge of the draft?
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 15, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Odgen and Lewis was the first Ravens draft. I do not believe Savage was with the team then. Ozzie draft I think.
Savage was a scout not the GM.
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Dec 16, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
i just have to say that i love the fact that the first player listed above is the kicker. the freaking kicker.
“among his many player acquisition successes in cleveland, heckert brought in punter reggie hodges, drafted quarterback colt mccoy…”
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 16, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I think Hodges was brought in under Mangini, but I think the fact that he got a legit shot here this year is a credit to both him and heckert. Hodges played in Philly early in his career, and played in NY during mangini’s time there.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Trent Cole sucks and was a product of Johnson.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I don’t see how you can say he was just a product of Johnson when he already has 9 sacks this year (5th year in a row with 8+ sacks). Yeah, McDermott is the successor…but can’t you say anyone who is successful is just a “product of the D” until they leave that D? Its very difficult to make the distinction until they leave that team. I guess I don’t buy into someone being a “system guy” or a “product of ____” when the guy has 51 sacks in the last 4-5 years (plus, 8 passes defended and 10 forced fumbles)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
He just isn’t pro-bowl level. Maybe “sucks” is a little harsh, I’m just bitter that announcers still thought he “beat” JT repeatedly when we last played them.
Still, to some extent the Eagles are very good at getting to the QB, and he just happens to be the beneficiary. You won’t see him straight dominate the best LTs in the league like a guy like Freeney.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
thats fair. He definitely gets some boost by the system. I guess I did take a little bit of offense to saying he “sucks”. Maybe his numbers might not be as great in another system, but its hard to suck and get as many sacks as he does. I am of the belief that he would still be a very productive player in another system (still getting 8-9 sacks a year on average).
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I’m hoping Heckert sees something in Julio Jones.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
I hope he doesn’t. We don’t need another half-motivated receiver who has a case of the dropsises.
"Smokescreen."
If that’s the case Heckert won’t take him. If Heckert thinks he is worth taking, than Julio Jones isn’t a half-motivated receiver who has a case of the dropsises. Personally, I’ve only read things about how hard Julio Jones works.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
I love Julio Jones.
I know he’s got question marks, but the kid loves to play and he’s pretty damn good at Alabama.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I agree – I think Julio Jones is an excellent prospect.
I’ve seen him play a couple of times and he is impressive in just about every aspect.
I saw him drop one ball he should have caught in the Auburn game, but he does not have the ‘dropsies’ by any stretch as far as I can tell.
Jones is a great athlete, fast, very physical, great blocking WR and works his tail off from all accounts.
"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 16, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
Mangini also mentioned that regardless of who starts at quarterback, Seneca Wallace would probably be the No. 2 quarterback due to the special offensive packages they have available for him
They are available….. Daboll does not know what they are, but they are available. Wait, we used one of those special packages in the Bills game… Yes that’s right the very effective Cyclone formation of Wallace handing it off to Hillis….. ONCE! Outstanding formation. We had the defense fooled at that one!
That reads surprisingly dirty.
"Quote goes here."
by Adrock2099 on Dec 15, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Haha, now I read it like the raging clue guys from SP.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
C’mon dude, It’s the Hardy Boys.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Dec 16, 2010 7:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’m so excited to see Colt back out there! Hopefully it will bring back the variety on offense that we’ve been lacking for a while. I also hope that this means we’re not as reliant on Hillis, because I really worry about overworking him to the point that he’s not as effective next season.
by Legoman0721 on Dec 15, 2010 8:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
how sad would it be if Colt played well enough for Daballs to keep his job?
by discoinferno083 on Dec 15, 2010 9:49 PM EST reply actions
Tom Brady himself may not be able to do this…
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
by Browns town on Dec 16, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Jake played horribly against Buffalo.
He stopped doing all of the things he had done well previously. I don’t think I have ever been so frustrated.
At this point, I am hoping Colt has done enough weekly M-Sat. to truly earn the starting job, and I hope we play him the rest of the way. I hope he stays healthy, I hope Holmgren and Heckert get a good look at him, and I hope he learns some things about pre-snap reads, the hard count, etc. from the veterans.
Good lord that Buffalo game was ugly. Credit to them for getting a W, but we looked BAD.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Colt needs to play. I need something to be excited about for this game.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
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