Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals - Official Game Thread (Part II)
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 19, 2010 2:30 PM EST
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PrintThe passing game has been a little funner to watch under quarterback Colt McCoy, but the offense only put a touchdown on the board in the first half. The Browns' defense has struggled against Cincinnati's running game, but the Bengals only have a three-point advantage. Will the Browns be able to overcome their 10-7 deficit in the second half?
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Game: Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals
Date/Time: Sunday, December 19, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WOIO/CBS, Channel 19 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Don Criqui & Steve Beuerlein
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St. Clair sucks
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Dec 19, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ha.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Is the wind super strong or something? We didn’t go for the Dawson FG earlier, and his kickoffs are very low and short.
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The Bengals’ kickoffs have been short too.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 19, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
“Couldn’t have missed that ball if he wanted to, it was so perfectly thrown.”
Who the hell says that, seriously?
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
Why can’t we do that?
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Dec 19, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions
Why does Eric Wright always look so lackadaisical when he is out there before the snap?
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
Im really starting to think that our success early in season was similar to ‘07. No one had footage on DA, and didnt give us half a thought. Since we beat the Saints and Patriots, people are checking up, and shutting down Hillis. We’ve got to do more offensively. Daboll gone, McDaniels in?
You’re forgetting the change that occurred at QB and RT after those games against the Saints and Patriots.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 19, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
What’s the deal today? I just tuned in and took a quick look at the stats for McCoy… It looks like he’s been accurate but has a low YPC. Has Daboll been doing his usual sissy play calling? Maybe we can try challenging his arm a little bit?
How many of the last 4 games do we win this year? Do we really feel better about the team this year?
by palcal on Dec 19, 2010 2:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
LOL
looks like handwriting is on the wall…Bengals playing today…browns -not
I'm Polish...what's your excuse?
We can blame Cribb’s injury for our poor returns, but what is up with our kick and punt coverage?
I am effing hurdling you and you can't stop me.
Good question!
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
We should consider Haden for the kickoff here for a spark.
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I would, and I may be Josh’s biggest fan.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Hikkkis!
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by golanbatrac on Dec 19, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Solid end to the half, hopefully we can punch it in right at the start of the fourth. I’d hate to waste three plays of clock only to settle for three.
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Love the coaching decision to run up and get one more rush play off before the third quarter ended too. That’s what I always advocate but never see from teams who are down multiple possessions.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 19, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Shoot, they didn’t get it in the third quarter? :-/
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Checked the replay just now, his behind was on the ground shy of the marker.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 19, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
This is a must go in my opinion, oh well.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
Closing to within six early in the fourth is okay by me, but we gotta get some defense here.
I am effing hurdling you and you can't stop me.
SH**!!!TT my stream is dead!
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 19, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Ugh – its back. Missed the end of the last series dammit.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 19, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Fingers crossed. Hope it’s a bad one!
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I am not having flashbacks of Buffalo. I am not having flashbacks of Buffalo. I am not having flashbacks of Buffalo….
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Very creative – run Hillis up the middle right on third down deep in the red zone.
Who’d have ever guessed?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 19, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Is Sheldon Brown active for this game?
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
Not injured, able to get snaps.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
Ah, crap.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions
Well, that was unpleasant.
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Dec 19, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions
God damn it, why the f*ck would they take out Cedric Benson?
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
If we are going to allow yards, I want it through only one of their players, that would be Benson.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
Don’t get me wrong, if I could press a button before this game that would cause Benson to fumble five times and gain no yards, I’d have pressed it even with him starting on my fantasy team.
But I don’t have that damn button.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
A W is a W!
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
So does today’s defensive performance calm the Ryan HC talk?
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
flag
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Dec 19, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell happened to our o-line? I guess we never had the right side.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
What o-line?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 19, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, so is going for it. We are not very good.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
the best thing that gets us is hodges to the pro bowl
by macdowellm03 on Dec 19, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Can we please try Womack at RT and Lauvao at RG?
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How bad is Lauvao if they don’t have the confidence to bring him out though?
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Dec 19, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I think maybe Mangini is losing his job right . . . . NOW.
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Dec 19, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions
New poll: How many repeats of the Buffalo game will it take to cost Mangini his job?
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
both lines are getting slaughtered.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
defense especially.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
This. Damn.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
So if this performance means the end for Mangini, who is the vote for HC? Gruden for me.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
I’m with golan on Dungy.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
same.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
You’re right, he just turned the worst team of all time into a SB contender and won a SB for the Colts. He mentors troubled youth and behaves classy all the time – what a twat. Compared to a cynical prick who lives in his mom’s basement? sure
Drop it.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Compared to a cynical prick who lives in his mom’s basement?
Irony of the day!
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
who is this “worst team of all time?”
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
thats a gross exaggeration. Especially if you look at the fact that the team was at least somewhat respectable at times the 2 years before Dungy got there. I will take the Sam Wyche led Bucs over the Millen era Lions any day of the week.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
look, if you want to add something to the discussion or try to back up your point, great. otherwise, you need to stop posting.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
please don’t resort to insults. that doesn’t do you any good.
years with 3 wins or less: Detroit 4/8. Tampa 0/4
years with 5 wins or less: Detroit 6/8. Tampa 2/4
Overall Winning % Detroit: 25. Tampa 36.
Now look at all of the history of the Tampa Franchise: 31%.
Even if you take one of the top 5 worst franchises between 1970-1990, they are still worlds better than the crap that Matt Millen created.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
for real? wait two more games.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
but we also beat teams we shouldn’t. don’t judge a coach until you see the body of work.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
All our coaches have beaten teams they shouldn’t have. I think we’ve seen the body of work and I just don’t see Mangini taking a team to the SB ever being as stubborn as he is
Ok really? How has he been stubborn? do you have any actual examples?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
well I think you made that clear when we were winning and playing close against good teams HenryDawg…so you have a predisposition for this thought so I will just ignore you on this.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I really want Mangini to stay, i don’t know that Holmgren sees it the same way as me though. I think that this performance along with last weeks may be too much to overlook.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
why? because they’re the most recent performances? why are these games weighted more heavily than the Patriots and Saints and Jets?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
often the end of the season gets significantly more weight than the beginning…its a “what have you done for me lately” phenomenon.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I just think when you look at the season as a whole it’s easy to see why we’ve looked bad lately. Mainly, injuries and poor QB play.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
but a lot to do with injuries.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
you are insufferable.
good teams have depth, bad teams don’t. how is it the coaches fault that we don’t have depth?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Really? who Quarterbacked the Steelers when Rothlisberger was out? Is that depth? Is Danny Woodhead, Benjarvus Greenellis and Julian Edelman depth?
yes. that is actually quality depth and the ability to find solid players in later rounds and as UDFAs.
they started Dennis Dixon when he was gone who was a steal in the 5th round, because he was coming off injury and was from a Spread O (but its a great steal for a project QB). the guy was a Heisman Finalist and they got him in the 5th. That is good drafting, not some coaching thing.
these FOs build depth from top to bottom and we just aren’t there yet.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
…and its not like the Steelers or the Pats don’t have injuries. the Steelers lost Aaron smith who has an impact similar to fujita has had here (maybe not as much, but a lot) and he has been out since week 7. Plus around a dozen other missed starts by starters (including Brett Kiesel being injured at the same time smith is).
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
those are four great examples of depth. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
You absolutely have to take the good with the bad, but I can see how it could be viewed as our team playing inconsistently between those games and these games.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
but there are reasons beyond coaching for those inconsistencies.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you, and I really hope that Holmgren sees it this way too. My original post was that “if these last two weeks mean the end for Mangini.” I guess I’ll just call it a gut feeling that these recent performances will spell out bad things for Mangini.
"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin
Really, although I’m depressed too.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Paterno.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 19, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hey everyone! I’m in Cleveland right now watching the game now. Sucks we’re going to lose… (Oh! Nice throw by McCoy there!). I missed the opening TD though :(. At least he looks good.
I wonder what this loss means for Mangini’s job security.
ROBISKIE FIRST NFL TOUCHDOWN!!!!
It’s not ever yet.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
THIS.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Watson the former Bengal hahaha!
his pick sexes put us over the top
by North Coast Flea on Dec 19, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions
holy balls that was cool
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Well this sucks. But honestly, even with the loss, I’m glad that Colt looked good today. The season’s lost, so I’m more concerned with player development at this point.
Surely you jest.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 19, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
no he didn’t. he looked pretty good. more good throws than bad ones; more good decisions than bad ones.
You are a ray of sunshine. Agree about Colt. Can’t figure out why we looked so flat today.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, thanks. Trying to stay positive. The fact that we need a QB so badly and I think we have ours makes me feel a little better.
As it should. Baffled about where the rest of the team is failing, but that is a good thing.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’m also happy about Colt, but this more than sucks. I want wins and this is a complete kick in the nuts. nothing like finishing the season with a crash and burn. complete opposite of last season.
True, but I still feel better about this season than last season.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
this one’s on the guys in the trenches. awful, just awful.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
If you have a long losing streak, invite the Browns to your party.
by palcal on Dec 19, 2010 3:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Enjoy, hoping for better results next week!
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Thhe Browns have been flat and emotionless the last 2 weeks.
by palcal on Dec 19, 2010 3:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Can they get up for Pitt and Balt? Or have they packed it in for the season?
by palcal on Dec 19, 2010 3:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
His fate may already be decided. Win against Carolina due to technicality(sucky kicker), lose to Buffalo, Cincinnati. Not to count all the other close games that we lost.
the technicality was the fact that we were almost shafted on a bad call…but thats moot now.
Buffalo is a much better team than people realize. they took Pitt to OT and have an extremely tough SoS, so it shouldn’t be a shock to lose to them on the road.
This game we were competitive, but we DID play a divisional game on the road and divisional games are often closer than they should be.
We lost close games against good teams. Those games outside of the ones you mentioned where we lost by 1 score or less, the teams have a combined record of 44-25, and over a 16 game season, the average team is better than 10-6. I would say that losing a handful of games to playoff caliber teams by a score or less is nothing to scoff at.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Go Jacksonville!
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
It’s pretty obvious this team can beat passing teams like the Saints and Pats with exotic defenses and blitzes but we have been hopeless against running teams all year long.
this is just all sorts of wrong.
Cincy is a passing team; 30th in both yards and ypc. I don’t know how you are getting that they are some great team from this. we just sucked today on D.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
yes I do. Cedric Benson has sucked. Cincy is not a particularly great passing team, but they rank above 30th in yards and yards per carry. They ARE a passing team, because of the breakdown of plays. they are 4th in attempts. that makes them a passing team. end of story.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I hope the Jets effing ANNIHILATE the Squealers. Not that I want the Ravens to win the division, but right now I’d enjoy that.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 19, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions
The Maggot
Its time to fire the maggot Mangini and his butt buddy Dabol, no need to wait till the end of the season,hell a high school coaching staff could out coach the friggin morons the Browns have for coaches
Perhaps you’d like to make these ever so intelligent comments over at cleveland.com?
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Oh wow.
Golan’s early prediction may have just been cemented.
a Delhomme [a·del·homme·] -noun
1. an interception that is returned for a touchdown
2. a useless, drive killing checkdown pass
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