Benson & Bengals Control the Clock in 19-17 Win Over Browns
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (5-9) | GAME #14 | CINCINNATI BENGALS (3-11) | |||
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For as good as the Browns threw the ball on their opening drive and their final drive of the game under Colt McCoy, you would think the Browns would have managed more than 17 points. Likewise, with how much the Bengals, led by running back Cedric Benson, dominated the ground game, you would think the Bengals would have managed more than one touchdown. It felt like a strange game overall, and ultimately the result was not the one that Cleveland fans desired.
Let's get to the review of this week's game, starting with the goats and then the game balls.
WEEK 15 - CLEVELAND BROWNS VS. CINCINNATI BENGALS (COMPLETE GAME REVIEW)
Goats of the Game:
- Front Seven: The Bengals made it clear what they wanted to do against Cleveland: pound the football. It was surprising to see the Bengals actually remain committed to running the ball, something they should've been doing all season long. Maybe Terrell Owens' injury contributed to that. After all, the only time Cleveland really stopped Cincinnati was on their first drive of the game, before Owens' injury. The front seven are goats because they were consistently pushed back by the Bengals' offensive line, almost to the point where it seemed like they were playing uninspired football.
- John St. Clair: Please don't play him against Baltimore or Pittsburgh.
Awarding the Game Balls:
- Benjamin Watson: Our reliable tight end finished the game with 7 catches for 92 yards. He caught several beautifully thrown passed by Colt McCoy over the middle, knowing full well he was going to take some shots. He helped the Browns' offense be in position to try a late comeback.
General Thoughts:
- Coming Out Aggressive: It was nice to see Brian Daboll allow Colt McCoy to be aggressive and take some shots down the field early in the game. On the first drive, he hit Watson and Brian Robiskie for 15+ yard completions. Later in the drive, on 1st-and-10 from the 20, the Browns lined up in a unique formation that led to a touchdown.
- The Trick Play Touchdown: On the trick play, Cleveland had three offensive linemen in their traditional spots in the middle of the field. Split wide on each side of the field were a trio of players (1 offensive lineman, 2 eligible receivers). Then, there was one random guy in the slot. The play didn't result in a wide open touchdown, and still required an on target throw from McCoy and a great diving catch by Robert Royal. The defense bit just enough to allow for that opening.
- Can't Fault the Calls: After stopping the Bengals on downs on their first drive, Cleveland's offense stayed aggressive with McCoy. After picking up a first down, McCoy aired one out deep to Joshua Cribbs. It might not have been the greatest throw, but if Cribbs had better body positioning, he comes away with the completion. Upon replay, I'm still not sure how Cribbs didn't get to the ball better. McCoy still got another first down on a pass to Robiskie, moving into Cincinnati territory.
- Missed Opportunities (continued): On the next play, McCoy went deep again, this time for Mohamed Massaquoi. The pass might have been better on a little more of a rope, but the fact is the ball was right there for Massaquoi for a big completion. Unfortunately, for as long of a time as he had to find the ball, he seemed to have never seen it until the last second. On the next play, Chansi Stuckey caught his traditional third down short pass and seemed a hair away from highstepping the defender. He was barely tripped up, forcing a punt.
Looking back to that drive, there were several plays to be made that could've led to Cleveland being up 10-0 or 14-0. When you take that lead, I doubt a Bengals team that hasn't run the ball very much all season is going to remain committed to the run. The quarterback made some good throws on this drive -- next year we need some receivers who can convert these type of plays.
- Special Teams Coverage Down: As the injuries have happened on special teams and the season goes on, the Browns' special teams coverage hasn't been as good. Bernard Scott had a 69 yard runback in the first quarter. It was brought back due to a holding penalty though, and the ball should've been placed at the 35 yard line, 65 yards away from the end zone. Instead, the ball was placed at the 50. Why?
- Overreaction by Officials: During the return, an official tripped on Brad Seely, who was barely on the white sideline stripe. The official flagged the Browns 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct, but they tacked it on after the Bengals' penalty. I see -- so the official screws over the Browns there, but later on, when the Browns have an illegal formation and Brian Robiskie is on the receiving end of a defenseless receiver blow, the penalties are offset.
There are so many ridiculous nuisances with these penalties. I'm more so burned that the Seely penalty wasn't ruled as an offsetting one, forcing a rekick on special teams. It didn't cost the Browns, but it irked me as a kneejerk reaction by the official as a result of last week's "intended" and very much different incident involving the Jets.
- Shut Down Cribbs for the Year: What are the odds that after the season, Joshua Cribbs reveals that he was playing through an injury even before he fractured his toes? The guy just isn't the same on special teams right now as he once was. He provides zero spark. Remember, special teams was a huge reason Cleveland won their final four games last season.
Even Marcus Benard looks like he can make better moves on a return than Cribbs right now. I think it is better to just shut Cribbs down for the year -- why have him in there if all he can do is average 17 yards per return? Mike Bell, Joe Haden, or someone else can do just as well, and probably better, without worrying about a nagging injury. Against the Bengals, Cribbs had 5 returns for just 87 yards. He also almost lost a kickoff when he fumbled but fell back on top of it.
- End of Half Blunder: The Browns did a good job moving the ball as they headed into the two-minute warning in the first half. Cleveland faced a 1st-and-10 from the 37. After the game, Phil Dawson said his max field goal range there was 48 yards, or from the 31-yard line. On McCoy's first pass, he hit Watson for six yards. Perfect! Cleveland is in field goal range. Unfortunately, McCoy was sacked on the next play, and on third down he hit Robiskie for just 5 yards.
That set up a 4th-and-7 from the 34, which was three yards beyond Dawson's range. After offsetting penalties and a retry, the Browns lined up to go for it again. John St. Clair had a false start though, and Cleveland elected to punt. Given the weather conditions that didn't favor kickers though, even on the 4th-and-12, with just 16 seconds left, Cleveland probably should've considered taking a deep shot.
- Pass Defense to Blame Too: For as much as the front seven didn't stop the run well, the pass defense didn't exactly excel. Minus Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer had no problems finding some of his young receivers wide open on short comeback routes. To start the third quarter, the pass coverage missed on two opportunities. The Bengals were flagged for holding on the first play of the half. On 1st-and-20, Palmer hit Andre Caldwell for 21 yards. Later in the drive, on 3rd-and-7, Palmer hit running back Brian Leonard for 20 yards and a first down (the play where he tried to hurdle T.J. Ward). The plays led to a field goal.
- One Drive Killer: It's like a chain reaction of "what if" plays. After the Bengals' field goal, a sack on second down of Cleveland's next drive killed it before it could even get started. After a punt, the Bengals decided to run the ball down Cleveland's throats.
- Bengals' Ground Game Effectiveness: On their second drive of the second half, the Bengals handed off to Benson on 8 consecutive plays. No fakes. No trickery. Just basic running of the football. He averaged 4-5 yards on those runs, eating up clock and setting up another field goal. Not only did it give the Bengals a two possession lead, it showed that Cleveland had no answer for the Bengals' running game. It's tough to rebound from that type of mental state during a game.
- Offense Responds: Again, despite only having 17 points, the offense had quite a few pretty good drives and opportunities -- they just failed to finish them. On the next drive, Peyton Hillis came alive with a couple of big runs. To end the third quarter, Cleveland set up a 3rd-and-1 from the 5 yard line. To start the fourth quarter, the Browns ran Hillis straight up the middle and he was stoned for no gain.
I thought about debating this play call, but instead I'll give the Bengals credit for laying a great smack on Hillis. Mangini opted to go for the field goal. I agreed with that decision, because it would bring Cleveland to within a touchdown. However, I only agreed with the decision under one condition: The Browns needed to load the box a little more to stop Benson. I didn't feel they made the proper adjustments defensively to do that the rest of the game.
- Need a Stop: Down 16-10, the Browns needed their defense to force the Bengals' first punt of the game: a field goal was unacceptable. Things started good when the special teams unit held the Bengals to a short return to the 20. Cincinnati was sparked again by a first down run of 7 yards, and the next play was a well-timed playcall by the Bengals: a quick wide receiver screen as the Browns blitzed the corner from that side. It resulted in a 53-yard field goal, and just like that, Mangini's decision to kick the field goal was negated. Another punch in the gut.
- Robiskie's First Touchdown: Props to Brian Robiskie for a nice catch-and-run for a 46-yard touchdown down the sideline with a little over two minutes to play. From what I've seen this season, Robiskie has had pretty decent separation in the limited number of times he has been targeted on a deep pass. This is the first time a quarterback's pass was on the money though. The play gave Cleveland a chance for an onside kick, down 19-17.
- The Onside Attempt: The highlight of the day for Cleveland's special teams should have come here. Phil Dawson hit the onside kick, and it took a perfect bounce into the air for our oncoming players right at ten yards. I swear our player should have had it -- it looked like Ray Ventrone -- but just barely whiffed in the bang-bang situation. Cleveland emerged from the pile with the ball, but the referees seemed to get it right as the Bengals player had a pretty clear recovery and was down by himself initially.
- One Last Gasp: Cleveland still could've stopped the Bengals and actually would've had a full minute to get into field goal range given their timeout situation. The Bengals ran it three times and got the first down, which wasn't a surprise given our run defense the entire game. I wish the Browns would have shoved T.J. Ward in the box at the start of the run plays. In that situation, if Palmer wants to throw to a receiver one-on-one, even if it's relatively open, let him. This is a quarterback who has not thrived on fourth quarter throws this season. Oh well.
- No Third Down Niche: One of the reason for Cleveland's downfall offensively has been their lack of success on third down. Earlier this season, Chansi Stuckey was money on third down. The second half of the year, I don't know if he's been able to convert one third down. Cleveland needs an answer in those situations, because it's preventing Cleveland from keeping a Fujita-less defense off the field.
- Special Teams Tackles: Each having one special teams tackle were T.J. Ward, Joe Haden, and Jason Trusnik. A bunch of guys assisted on tackles.
- Brownies: The Bengals had the ball 38 minutes to the Browns' 22 minutes...Ward seemed to have a pretty fair game overall...for the first time in weeks, Abram Elam didn't have a big play (although no one did) on defense...Reggie Hodges had his worst day statistically of the season, but based on how everyone punted and kicked the ball, it was attributed to the cold weather and not an "off" day for the punter.
Next up, the Browns take on the Ravens and the Steelers. The last two losses have been downers, but I'm still excited about the prospect of Cleveland upsetting their division rivals this week. Hopefully the team appears a little more motivated and plays a complete game to close out the season with at least one more win than last year.
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This defense is completely out of gas. The coaching staff should really rest the starters as much as possible this week and let them freshen up for game time. If necessary do more film work and less on field drills
by HenryDawg on Dec 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I’d run them out for an hour of hamburgers every day and just stick to the film room other than that.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 21, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Marvin Lewis.....and Browns looking forward..
One point that is lost that Chris Pokorny hit on that is lost is that the BENGALS should have been favoring the run all year. If they ran the ball it would have set up the veteran receivers and helped Palmer (who I think is done). Marvin Lewis is not what I would call a championship level coach. Just his record, he has 2 winning seasons out of 8. He is a coach that I believe should not be there next year and the team dismantled completely. Problem is management is cheap. How many more years will they give this guy? The BROWNS are moving in a better direction than the Bengals. I also am calling it now, but i think the STEELERS are slipping and can be over taken next year if the Browns take a step forward. The RAVENS, I see a problem on defense, I know they have guys hurt but this is not the same defense as it once was. I think they are the class of the division for now. It may take a couple good drafts to pass the RAVENS. I am torn about the BROWNS getting a new Head Coach and I am hoping Mangini has his team ready to win these next two games. With McCoy showing promise we could be moving in a good direction. A new system and new coaches could put us another step back. next year unless Holmgren is convinced Mangini cannot produce a solid winner. I know Daboll needs to be replaced. If the Browns get embarrassed the next two weeks, Mangini will be in real trouble. Thoughts???
The Steelers are slipping?
Are you saying we should take Lewis as our coach?
I’m confused?
Or is this just another should we get rid of Mangini comment?
One of the Fins players said he was in complete shock because he thought they were going to crush the Browns. That is just bad coaching if that is the case.
If so, i’m of the opinion that regardless of the outcome of the last two games, something will happen this offseason in terms of the coaching situation. Whether it be Mangini getting a vote of confidence, Daboll being let go, someone coming in to assist Daboll under the guise of some other position, or Mangini being let go.
One of the Fins players said he was in complete shock because he thought they were going to crush the Browns. That is just bad coaching if that is the case.
I think if the Browns would have lost a close game and dominated one of the last two games things may look a little less confusing. The last 4 games have been confusing, Carolina, dominate first half, gave up the lead in the second half and should have lost. Miami, was a defensive struggle, in retrospect not a bad game, good defensive effort. Buffalo and Cincinnati were perplexing to me. Especially Buffalo.
Yeah, many of these games that we have lost at the end of the season feel like games we would have found a way to win at the end of last season, whereas this year it feels like we have found a way to lose. It’s a confusing situation and i can’t put a finger on why it’s happening.
One of the Fins players said he was in complete shock because he thought they were going to crush the Browns. That is just bad coaching if that is the case.
omeone coming in to assist Daboll under the guise of some other position
Tried that already. Did not work.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 21, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I had that same thought. He should just go now.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 21, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I think the Steelers are not as dominating. Who does anyone fear on the Steelers? Hines Ward? He wont last forever. I dont fear them running like in the past. They are 17th over all in offense. The lowest they have been in years. NOW I know Rothlesburger was not there all year, but I dont think they move the ball as they once did. They would pound teams, now they not as dominant. Their defense is still strong. I dont see the Steelers beating New England, nor the Ravens or Jets in the playoffs.
Lewis, no I did not say the Browns should have him as coach. He should not be a head coach.
Mangini, I think I prefer him to stay, but if the Browns are totally out played the next two weeks I am thinking he may not get another year. They are divisional games and both teams should be looking to win, The Ravens more so than the Steelers in the last game of the season.
I don’t fear the Steelers, but they have a pretty good team sitting atop the division.
I was confused about Lewis because of your heading, sorry about that.
One of the Fins players said he was in complete shock because he thought they were going to crush the Browns. That is just bad coaching if that is the case.
I’m not saying we should hire Lewis, but being .500 in Cincinnati is like being .800 everywhere else. I think he will be a good coach wherever he goes.
too bad he’s not .500 in Cincinnati.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 22, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
You’re missing the point. I’m shocked.
by HenryDawg on Dec 22, 2010 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What’s your point? he’s bad in cincinnati so he’ll be average somewhere else?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 22, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
The guy has all kinds of talent on that team, but can’t find a way to win. Cincy is too “up and down” and inconsistent. That points back to the HC of this team.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
Who does anyone fear on the Steelers? Hines Ward?
Ben Roethlisberger. his emergence at being a dominant QB came at the same time as the emergence of Santonio. Now he doesn’t have Santonio, but is still has proved he can be a great QB without elite weapons. Wallace has emerged, but he is still not as consistent as Santonio. Also, Ward kinda sucks right now. They are as efficient of a team as ever, they just don’t pass a ton.
This team is top 10 in Net Ypa (adjusts for sacks), opposing ypc, and opposing net ypa. This D may be the most dominant Defense in a decade. The Offense is efficient and gets points when needed.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
No need to say all this stuff.
"There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.’’ - Josh Cribbs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 22, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
the BENGALS should have been favoring the run all year
I don’t remember chris mentioning this anywhere. Anyways, I disagree with the sentiment. when you are 30th in the league in rushing ypc and have one of the most pedestrian starting RBs in the league, I don’t see how running more would help.
I don’t see it with the steelers. I hate saying this, but they may be the most efficient team in the NFL on a week-to week basis. they have an offense that executes, easily the league’s best D IMO, and one of the better Special Teams units. Plus, its not like they have a bunch of 35 year old players. they have young guys like Woodley, Mendenhall, Mike Wallace, etc…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Chris did say that the Bengals should have remained committed to the run all year . Read above under Goats of the Game. “It was surprising to see the Bengals actually remain committed to running the ball, something they should’ve been doing all season long”
As far as the Steelers they have the Second Oldest team in the league and Have the OLDEST starting team on Defense this year. Quoting New York Times “Pittsburgh once again fields one of the oldest defense in the league in 2010”
The average age of the steeler team is 28 years old. League average is 25.89 years old.
NOT SAYING THE STEELERS AREN’T GOOD because they are. I am saying I think they may be getting old and the NFL seems to be a league or youth. Look at the Eagles offense, maybe the youngest in the league. Just my opinion is all.
because they are older than average doesn’t mean they are going to collapse soon. it seems like whenever they lose an older player, a younger guy just steps up. they lose Joey Porter, Lamar Woodley steps up. once Larry Foote is gone, Lawrence Timmons steps up. Wallace has replace Santonio, Bryant McFadden replaced DeShea Townsend, Mendenhall has replaced Parker…The one thing I worry about is the front 3 and the safeties. outside of Ziggy Hood, they really have no one I can see stepping up.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
and the safeties
Agree completely. The Steelers D isn’t the same with Troy not playing. That is one hard void to fill with what he does for that team.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
yes. and Ryan Clark is now over 30 (and he is a solid player). The only guy I see with starter upside as a backup at D-Line and Safety is Ziggy Hood. these are their oldest positions on D. If they don’t address these areas in the draft, I definitely see a collapse coming.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Well I would say I compare the problems Pittsburgh could have in the near future to that of the Colts. The Colts got old quickly (yes I know injuries did not help them). Peyton had to try and have the same timing and execution with new group of players. The COLTS are not the team there were 2 years ago and now the drop off is starting to be significant. I would say I am starting to see the same with the Steelers. Ok let me say it this way I am HOPING to see the same with the Steelers. It is time someone else took this division and ran with the title for a decade or more. I just think the Steelers are escaping with victories now more than out right dominating teams. Troy being out till the playoffs and possibly into the first round hurts them.
have one of the most pedestrian starting RBs in the league
Are you calling Cedric Benson pedestrian? Dude, their rushing attack is what they utilized to sweep the division last year. TO was supposed to add even more of a passing dynamic to compliment that rushing attack. They do pretty well when they actually put a game plan together for rushing the football. (See: Bengals 2009)
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
last year
not this year. 3.6 yards per carry is not anything special. in fact, pedestrian is a pretty nice word for it.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I disagree with you on that one, however I know many feel that way this year. I would say 1000yds with 2 games left and 7TD’s is hardly pedestrian. Not stellar, but more than pedestrian IMO.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
He’s steady and consistent. Steadily and consistently below average.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
As a pedestrian Benson certainly excels on occasion.
Did quite a bit of walking last Sunday. Sorry for the pun – I jest.
Of course Benson’s no elite RB by any stretch. When you combine YPG and YPC over his career, I’d say he’s ‘average’. Would I want him as my starting RB? No.
Steadily and consistently below averageI’d have to disagree and say “he’s been inconsistent / up and down from week to week and from year to year”. Probably in large part because he’s been in and out of trouble with the law, had some injury problems, etc.
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 23, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
It was a joke. Benson is just not that good and, hasn’t lived up to his potential, and probably can’t at this point in his career.
Even in his best year he was not that “up”.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
hasn’t lived up to his potential
Totally agree with this.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 24, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
As a pedestrian Benson certainly excels on occasion.
Brian Robiskie had a good game last week and calling him “pedestrian” would be extremely kind.
YPC over his career, I’d say he’s ‘average’.
thats very kind. If you look at the league average for rushing attacks over the past decade, the average team rushes at between a clip of 4.1-4.2 ypc. Benson for his career is at a 3.8. That means his rushing average is around 10% lower than the average ypc for the average team.
Also, you have to consider that other positions (FBs, QBs, WRs rushing the ball) generally bring down the rushing average. For example, Hillis has 4.5 ypc but the team rushes for 4.1 ypc. The starting RB averages between .1-.3 more ypc than the whole team. So, Benson only rushes for about 85% of the yards per carry that the average back in the league does. Put his ypc career-wise in any given year, and he will be bottom 5 in ypc.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Good write-up.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Chris, my take on your overall assessment(s) is that you are generally satisfied with the offensive game plan and play calling to this point. If you were in Holmgren’s shoes, how would you approach the coaching situation. Are you looking at other options, or do you keep both Mangini and Daboll and forge ahead? Do you still need to see what happens in the next two games?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 21, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions
I’d keep Mangini. First, who out there is better than him? Second, Mangini isn’t on the field blowing games. Jake and Seneca were the guys throwing pick sixes. Injuries have forced John St. Clair back into the starting lineup. And Josh Cribbs has been playing hurt. Third, continuity.
I give Mangini a lot of credit and could write an entire post in his defense. I don’t like our record but this team is night and day from last year. Hopefully we can finish strong and have another good draft.
As for Daboll, I’d like to see analysis of his calls for games with McCoy under center versus Delhomme/Wallace. I feel like he has done a better job calling games for McCoy and if Colt is the guy going forward then maybe you give Daboll another year.
End of the day though, I trust Holmgren to make these decisions. I’m just tired of seeing “Mangini on the hot seat” headlines from Grossi because the guy is a hack and can’t provide any worthwhile analysis.
by Monsters of the Midway on Dec 21, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
my take on your overall assessment(s) is that you are generally satisfied with the offensive game plan and play calling to this point.
I think there are segments in which the playcalling is good, such as the opening drive of a game. This has been a consistent problem with Daboll though — he seems good at scripting the opening drive, but can’t adapt on the fly after that. Therefore, I’m not generally satisfied with the offensive gameplan and playcalling to this point, especially with the underutilization of Cribbs earlier this season from the Wildcat.
For the Bengals game though, I wasn’t furious at Daboll or anything. Still frustrated about a few calls, but no where near the magnitude of the Bills game.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 22, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks
I think that the problem in evaluating the failures (or successes for that matter) stem from the idea that you don’t really know how much blame should fall to the player(s) or the coach(es).
I am not trying to absolve anyone from blame but unless we know the play-call, the adjustments/reads (or lack thereof)…we really can’t tell exactly why something failed. I mean, on the 3rd and 1, Hillis gets stuffed. The right side of the line was weak and Steinbach pulled to his right and blocked AIR…he blocked NOBODY! I have a hard time faulting the coaches for that.
Otherwise Chris, I really like your breakdown. I too would have gone for three there but the defense didn’t live up to its half of the bargain. I don’t like to make excuses especially when it comes to injuries (because everyone has them) but I would agree with you on Cribbs. He hasn’t been able to make a cut since training camp. He’s been a straight line runner all year. Early on, he was listed in the injury report as “ankle” and I would think that he’s been playing hurt all year. Another thing that rarely gets mentioned is that Brian Schaefering, while a reasonable depth player is not going to make anyone forget the injured Robaire Smith. Robaire was playing very well when he got hurt. Lastly, our defensive troubles really began to unfold with the loss of Scott Fujita who is not only instinctive and intelligent but also a leadership presence on the field. While he won’t win any sprints, replacing him with Barton or Bowens isn’t a good solution for the remaining season.
While all this seems plausible………..Cleveland plays week in and week out against teams that have their own injuries. Many of these failures do not come against the first team players of our opponents. And our opponents’ attacks and defenses are played despite injuries. Excusing our own performance because of our own injuries becomes a worn excuse. Perhaps this team wins 8 games against a less daunting schedule. It’s a shortage of quality starters and depth on this team that prevent Cleveland from winning more and not injuries.
Ye damned whale!
That was my point
I’m not trying to use the injuries as an excuse. Like I said, everyone has them. It is a reason for our decline however (amongst other reasons as well). Just pointing out that this team really misses Fujita and the Cribbs we all expected.
I agree. the problem isn’t truly injuries but depth. overall, this team was doing great when it was achiving a very slim margin for error. to be successful, this team has to have a very slim margin of error by not making mistakes and having most of the key players staying healthy. We have lost a couple players, so our depth is exposed.
Being competitive with this team was walking on a thin tightrope and once guys like Fujita, Pashos, and Yates went on IR, our lack of depth was exposed. once we lost those 2 pieces on the right hand side, we were pretty much forced to start St. Clair because we only had one O-Lineman left who could fill in on that side. As it stands, we have only 7 active Lineman. Most teams have at least 8+. and our 7th is a backup Center who has been here all season and only appeared in 5 games (and the other was injured for almost half the season).
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I hate that we run the drive play or other plays with those shallow crossing routes on 3rd down. Defenses just hang back to cover everything else and force us to throw short. We don’t have the athletes to consistently be able to catch the shallow cross and turn it up field for the 1st down.
I’d like to see us maybe keep a TE or back or two in to block and get more vertical.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I’d like to see more draw plays and screens.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Dec 21, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Successful offenses find ways to convert third downs, even third and long, vertically. Unless you can protect the pocket, have guys break open and deliver the ball, it won’t happen. We have all seen the failure to do any of these things any number of times. We have also seen successful teams convert these situations. The vertical game takes a lot of physical orchestration and the talent isnt there.
Ye damned whale!
+1
Yes, if I see Chansi Stuckey get caught from behind on a two-yard route I’ll puke. That said, this problem is an NFL one where they cover everything and force you to take the checkdown 2-yarder. That’s why staying out of third and long is helpful.
I don’t know about keeping a TE or back in…you need at least one of those players to stretch the horizontal seams.
great write-up, chris.
how in the world did royal roberts catch that ball?
could john st. clair be any worse than he is?
the inability to get the stop on the final bengals possession was inexcusable.
St Clair is worse than a subject line.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Dec 22, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs

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