Something else to consider about a coaching change.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Dec 28, 2010 4:44 PM EST

While may people are in fact ready to move on from Mangini, I am not. I want to get that bias out of the way before I continue on as I am sure it would get brought up at some point in the comments (if I get any). Having said that one interesting aspect of a coaching change that has not yet been brought up in any threads I've seen crossed my mind today: Who's to say a top tier coaching candidate would want to come here?

I understand we would all like to see the Cleveland Browns as a dream job for a coach, but with our lack of recent success and a sub-par overall roster it is not a sure thing a great coach would want to come here. Especially when you consider the other jobs that may be available.

Dallas, San Francisco, Miami (rumors running rampant that Sparano is out), Tennessee, Houston, Minnesota, possibly the Giants if they fail to make the playoffs. Thats a pretty sizeable market of competition right there. I doubt any of us could argue that the Browns are closer to a title then the Vikings, Giants, or even Cowboys. Arguments could be made to choose Cleveland over the other locations, and I didnt even factor in the Bengals or Bronco's.

I for one would rather give Mangini another year minimum then end up settling for a John Fox.

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While we cannot control the minds of the pool of better coaching candidates, it would be presumptuous to think that only a team’s proximity to greatness enters into the thinking. Cleveland might offer more money or more years, There may be a desire to work with Holmgren. A coach may have grown up rooting for the Browns. Joe Thomas might kidnap a coach.
Exchanging Mangini for a head coach that is considered average probably isn’t productive.

I wanna go fast

by elsandito on Dec 28, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions

I agree. NFL head coaching slots do not open up every day (though it has seemed that way lately), and the reasons to accept a particular job would probably encompass much more than just the cachet of a particular team.

Also, I LOL-ed at the Joe Thomas remark.

by Combat Medic on Dec 29, 2010 7:14 AM EST up reply actions

I assume you are referring to Gruden with the “Grew up rooting for the Browns, and Desire to work with Holmgren” aspects of your post. And its been said he is waiting until 2012 to return to coaching due to his son being a senior in high school.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Dec 29, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions

And its been said he is waiting until 2012 to return to coaching due to his son being a senior in high school.

And Nick Saban wasn’t interested in the Alabama job.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 29, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

This. Personally, I want Mangini to stay; but, this.

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 29, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions

News flash: turns out no one is ‘planning’ to run for president in 2012.
Its looking likely that Obama will be running uncontested.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 29, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

nice.

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 29, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions

I recommend this post.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Dec 29, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions

while a good point its a different situation. If a guy can wait a year, still be a top candidate, still have a good job, and not have to move his family in his sons senior year I think he will do it.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Dec 31, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions

I’d hire Sparano, or the Eagles’ OC.

Mike Marra is the worst Division 1 Starter in college basketball

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 28, 2010 10:18 PM EST reply actions

you mean as the Broncos new coach?

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 29, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions

I haven’t heard that?

Mike Marra is the worst Division 1 Starter in college basketball

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 30, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions

whoooosh!

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Dec 30, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

yup.

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 31, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

Brady hasn’t called you yet?

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 30, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Hire Bill Callahan as the OC and move on

by HenryDawg on Dec 29, 2010 9:21 AM EST reply actions

Wow, haven’t heard that name in a while.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 30, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions

Last night some analyst during the game( I cannot reminder who) indicated the thought by many teams was to go for the cheap , young, hungry coordinators to fill the HC positions currently available around the league. That’s called rebuilding and I just don’t think we are at rebuilding yet. MIN, SF, DAL, yeah OK, but not CLE at least not for next year.

by SBP on Dec 29, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions

If a lock out occurs and both sides settle right before the season starts, do we really want a new coach? He would have no time to get to know our team. It could be dangerous. I like Mangini and think he should stay. The above is just another reason why we should keep him around a little bit longer.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 30, 2010 10:16 AM EST reply actions

For those that are anti-Mangini, would you be okay with Mary Morninwheg instead? Because I think he is a very real possibility if Mangini goes.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 30, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions

Is Mary Marty’s wife (has Marty been tutoring her)?

In all seriousness, are you serious?
(this is a serious question – why do you think Morninwheg’s a serious candidate…)

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 30, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions

Same agent as Holmgren/Heckert and from that same tree of coaches.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 30, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions

Hmm… 5-27 as HC with Detroit…
But that was 8 years ago and it does seem he’s done a very good job with the Eagles offense in recent years – under Reid who is certainly an impressive guy… interesting.
Have you heard something or are you just speculating?

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 30, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions

Well there was the ESPN article last year, can’t remember exactly when. On Twitter whenever I see Browns coaching mentioned if Mangini is let go, Marty is always one of 2-3 guys they mention.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 30, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions