Gameball of the Week: Joe Haden

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Are you really this pessimistic

I’m not pessimistic I’m realistic.

do you just personify this on here to get a rise from people

Both. But blind unrealism irks me.

rookie playing at his level in his first year

At what level? The knock I’ve always had against Haden is he’s always seemed to be fortunately opportunistic. Even in college every one of his int’s came off a sucky QB throwing the ball straight to him. This game is a prime example. Even with his defended passes how many of them were with Haden actually creating an advantage on a good play, rather than taking advantage of poor play from a sucky Henne? I like my CB’s to do whatever they can get away with, but was the play where he held the guys arm to prevent him from catching the ball a good play or bad refing?

Now to be able to take advantage of bad plays is very important, but sooner or later you’re going to have to rely on your OWN skill when going against good players. I haven’t seen that so far. To be honest he seems like the same type of player Wright is; having good enough skills to stick to lesser WR’s and take advantage of a mistake, but not really having the physical skills necessary to prevent getting beat. The kind of play showed when he got beat by hartline is the same type of play Wright has been decimated for this year.

Gumbel and Dierdorf were certainly gushing over him.

Dierdorf did say future All-Pro. That is close to shutdown.

I was thinking that LP was saying that Chris was calling Haden a shut-down corner, when Chris explicitly typed that he was going to tame his expectations.

Dallas is so desperate for corners, and it was his favorite team growing up, I’d be surprised if he isn’t a Cowboy next year.

I would sign him just to get the numbers at CB. If we don´t sign Wright – we are basically down to 1 corner with any shelf life. We will again have to throw both numbers and premium picks in the draft. I would overpay slightly, have him as a backup CB and hope he shows some of the playmaking ability he flashed last year. I still think he can be a top 10 backup CB.

wright is more of a liability than he is serviceable, hell i would rather have francies out there, hes serviceable.

Hyperbole alert.

We have no DB depth. We have no pass rush. Hell, we have no QB. But the season is chalked up to Eric Wright. Nice theory.

okay yes.

you guys are Turds.

“Eric Wright singlehandedly cost us the Baltimore game, which, if we had won, would have us sitting much more comfortably in the playoff race?”

happy?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Seriously?

Please, don’t be logical about things. . . . Eric Wright once said something on twitter that I don’t like, he is therefore the reason we are not 10-2 right now.

Thank you.

Yeah, well since it´s cover corner unfortunately, and not knock your head off corner, it´s Wright over Ward. And since safety still means safety type player as the name implies, I would also wager that it´s Piscatelli over Ward.

Shocking that Haden goes in, the backfield is stacked.

Funny how our safety coverage is all of a sudden appearing to be much better with Wright not in the game.

and if I remember correctly, the other pass he broke up was a good throw too.

That’s Rocland’s job… oh wait, you said #1.

I want to move him back to RT. Is Lauvao expected back at all?

so he then had free reign to do whatever the hell he wanted.

Best defensive assignment ever.

Yea, he said they were in Cover 5 and his and his man stayed in the backfield.

his assignment was to cover the tight end. The tight end stayed in as a blocker, so he then had free reign to do whatever the hell he wanted.

This is what it looked like to me. He stayed in as a kind of a “floater”, reading the QB and just reacting instinctively.

Excellent point. As lukewarm as I am on Jake, at this point I’d gladly take him over last year’s bad rubbish.

Yes, but it also shows just how horrible our QBs were last year. One guy keeps getting benched for an undrafted rookie and is basically a laughingstock of the entire league and the other guy is barely holding on to the 3rd string job on a team that’s won like 3 games.

Not buying it.

Smokescreen.

And anything Hardesty can give us.

At first, I thought what the hell, then you could tell they were tying to get them to bite, and with a good hard count from Brees, they did. We actually f***** up earlier with 12 men on the field when we were about to get the ball back with the lead in the fourth, but I have been through a lot of these games with the Saints (a lot of 49er games in the 80’s and 90’s) where the good team finds a way and the other team plays their hearts out but makes too many mistakes only to be disgusted (players, fans). I take no wins for granted because of that, but for now, it is nice to be the good team finding ways to win for the most part—minus first game against Atlanta.

Sean Payton is the best current head coach from the Bill Parcells coaching tree. That’s right.

Haden’s is more honest and humble, not boasting. But hilarious nonetheless.
Leave the Haden quote in there – its a classic.

Keep the Haden quote, if you didn’t use it, i was going to. Also, you’ll just have to have a quick trigger on replacing it this sunday if things go downhill.

There weren’t a lot of us that liked the pick on draft day. But we had our hearts set on Berry. Clearly, things worked out for us. If we took Berry, we would have taken a lesser CB in the second round and not gotten Ward.

It wasn’t that I thought there were better players out there (Dez Bryant was probably the only one who I thought was clearly better, but I don’t think I would draft him unless he fell to the 3rd round).

I thought Haden didn’t have a good chance to make it to the level that we should expect from a top 10 pick, and the 40 times scared me. He’s a corner, he knows he’s fast, and yet he doesn’t put the work in to be able to display that speed to everyone in the world at the combine? What about that is supposed to make me believe he’ll ever reach his potential and transform himself into Revis/Nnamdi?

Obviously, it’s great that I don’t get to judge our draft picks’ character through the media. But at the same time, he isn’t the star he should become yet. He’s got a lot of work to do. I think he clearly “gets it” and is easing those concerns about being a professional and taking this game seriously because you can see his improvement already. I am hoping he doesn’t get complacent and he doesn’t allow himself to settle for being a good player.

I’d have been devastated at the time if we traded up for anyone other than Suh.