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Guess its an "Every QB Must Go" sale.

I still kinda like him ... what a shame

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WTF, WTF, WTF….I really didn’t see this one coming since Anderson was let go. I realize he hasn’t put up stellar numbers, but a QB has to have game experience to get better. I don’t get why we wouldn’t give him one full season before we do this.

by Kimble_79 on Mar 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

right under the story on the above link is a report that bradford scored pretty high on the wonderlic test. i wonder how much stock holmgren puts into those things?

by Dawg Nuts on Mar 10, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

good question? I honestly think Holmgren is going after Dan Lefevour in draft and Seneca to start for this team now. I thought he got Seneca to “train” BQ on the WC offense, and would cut Ratliff as 3rd string for Lefevour. I have no idea what to think now?

by Kimble_79 on Mar 10, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve heard that we have an interest in LeFevour. He has good accuracy, I think.

by emily522 on Mar 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably as much as any other combine-ish test. It might validate what you see on film, but you are looking for generally good scores and you don’t need to analyze minute differences between scores. If he scored a 3, you might worry. But Eli outscored Peyton on the Wonderlic. Both did well, but you don’t look at 5 points and think the guy has a better ‘football mind’.

Some people also look at these things not as the tests themselves (i.e. how fast you can run a 40) but to get an idea about the professionalism and work ethic someone brings to the table. If they are competitive and have the work ethic to make it, they are probably at least going to get training on the Wonderlic, the 40, etc. If you come in and have terrible form in your tests and you aren’t prepared for the combine, what does that say about your willingness to prepare for Sundays?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly right. Performance on the Wonderlic reveals effort and preparation. It’s not an overly difficult test, and practice will certainly make it manageable for most.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Mar 11, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and it showed how great Alex Smith is.

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 11, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he going to be Arizona’s starter?

by emily522 on Mar 11, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know about Holmgrem exactly, but I have heard that scouts and GM’s think highly of the test.

It might be just me, but I’m starting to get the feeling that the Browns are looking to trade up for Bradford. I’m thinking Quinn and the #7 pick for the top overall pick.

by OSUMoneyball on Mar 10, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

gotta admit…that sounds intriguing to get Bradford with that trade

by Kimble_79 on Mar 10, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

No way Quinn is worth six spots.

by gahnki on Mar 10, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s what i would think. a team is gonna want more than quinn to give up that kind of draft value.

by Dawg Nuts on Mar 11, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

We haven’t traded anyone yet. Quinn is on the trading block. Title is misleading.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

This. it may be a lot of hype for nothing.

by Dawg Nuts on Mar 10, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

From what it sounds like the Browns are shopping everyone, so this shouldn’t be a surprise.

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. When I saw the title I was like “WHOA!”

by emily522 on Mar 10, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The only person we didn’t shop was Brodney Pool.

The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.

by North Coast Flea on Mar 10, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

You all saw Holmgren’s to-do list.

I’m not the least bit surprised.

by Simmsinns on Mar 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

The pieces are arranging themselves.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Mar 10, 2010 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

who knows what is going to happen, whether we get McNabb, Vick, Delhomme, trade Quinn, start Seneca.. none of this would surprise me. What would shock the hell out of me and would make no sense on the Rams part is to pass on Sam Bradford. here is their chance to finally get a franchise QB. they absolutely have to take him at #1.

by rockybrown on Mar 10, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

The QB situation is crazier this offseason than last, if that’s even possible.

by emily522 on Mar 10, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure how many people read the Canton Repository here (Anything better than most of the writers at the PD right?), but this is what Doerschuk wrote:

A RELIABLE SOURCE, common sense, and signals from our recent conversation with Mike Holmgren, tell us:
Jake Delhomme is being considered as a mentor and backup.
Holmgren’s previous two teams, Green Bay and Seattle, began their ascents the day they committed to growing with young, unproven quarterbacks. That’s what Holmgren will do in Cleveland the moment he thinks he has the young quarterback, and we believe Brady Quinn is still in the equation.

I hope that this analysis is spot on. If we’re going to have Delhomme, I want nothing to do with him as a starter. But he’s started almost 100 games throughout his career, so as a mentor, I can see him being very valuable. As for Quinn, aside from trading for a different QB, do we really have alternatives that are better?

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Mar 11, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Wallace = offense teacher
Delhomme = veteran mentor
? = the Future

This would stay in line with Holmgren’s statement that he doesn’t want a QB competition.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Mar 11, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s about what I was thinking too, but will Delhomme agree to be 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart? It’s not like Wallace has a choice, but Jake is a free agent and I’m not so sure that he’s ready to give up on being the starter or at least having the chance to be one.

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Mar 11, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he would have a hard time finding another team in the league to compete for a starting job after last year

by Kimble_79 on Mar 11, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Will the real QB for the Browns please stand up, please stand up, please stand up. I have no idea who is QB’ing next year now?

by Kimble_79 on Mar 11, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

If only rec’s can go in the negative.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Mar 11, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, gotta admit after I posted that…I was desperately looking for an “undo” button

by Kimble_79 on Mar 12, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

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