The Pittsburgh Steelers are Hypocrites?
by Roger Dorn on Mar 11, 2010 9:59 AM EST
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I was wondering to myself recently whether or not the Steelers would punish Roethlisberger even if he were to escape legal trouble after his most recent "incident."
Suddenly, I recalled a similar incident with former Steelers WR Cedrick Wilson. Wilson was cut for this indiscretion and Steelers team Chairman Dan Rooney said of the release, "The Steelers do not condone violence of any kind, especially against women."
Ben and Cedrick, though, were not the only Steelers that have been violent against women. Steelers Pro Bowl LB, James Harrison, had a little incident of his own. Was he cut from the Steelers? Actually, Harrison was not cut, but rather given a $51 million contract extension.
So my question to the Pittsburgh Steelers is, do you tolerate violence against women or not? Or is it one of those things where it's okay if you are a Pro Bowler?
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Only if they are Pro Bowlers.
I weep for Mrs. Polamalu
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 11, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I rec every picture of him NOT smiling.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 12, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’d be scared.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You know Roc, you could have posted this without singling out the lone female on the board. Just sayin’…
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I was thinking the same thing, it’s pretty sexist.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 15, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know about sexist, but it’s skeevy as hell.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I think that is what he was going for, Ben=skeevy. Plus she’s the only female here in Ben’s range of “I’d hit that”.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 15, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is the other female?
Bross?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 15, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Although I am somewhat young enough that he might tap that, I am a male. I don’t know if I have ever clarified that but I am of the male gender.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
why? He thought I was a female. I never clarified my gender so I was doing it for him.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I knew you were male dude.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 15, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, you can’t put the genie back in the bottle – even if it belongs there.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 15, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew you were male dude.
oh. I wasn’t sure.
by gahnki on Mar 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yeah. I am a little confused…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
by bross09 on Mar 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you weren’t sure you’re male
Those improv lessons aren’t cutting it, less studying more immersion . Relax a little bit and go with it.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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by Villeslgr on Mar 15, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes I am not sure…I am not sure what you can call me right now. I have had the silicon implants and am taking estrogen pills but am still a man down there…
WHAT DOES THAT MAKE ME????
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
hhhhmmmm….pat from saturday night live?
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
by Kimble_79 on Mar 15, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m a stay at home dad, but at 23 I’m way too old for Ben.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 15, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
my dream is to be a stay at home dad, is it everything i imagine?
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 17, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If you like living in hell, but naw kids are great.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
its good to have a female perspective here, I’m leaning towards lets drop this and not alienate her
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Uh, what?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 15, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s too funny that you pick out the one woman on the blog for a rape joke.
That’s just me though.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 15, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well if ben had been raping boys he would have said “look out guys,” but ben rapes girls, so we have nothing to worry about.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 17, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
This got rec’d? Some of you guys on here are fucked up.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 16, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
relax
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 17, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Rocland and rec’ers need to check there morals. This isn’t funny at all.
Rape only follows murder and child molestation. She already said that she found it offensive, and you’re telling me to relax?
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 17, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop being a fake-ass white knight and get over yourself. She completely took it as a joke
by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe a little bit.
She didn’t take it as a joke completely.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 19, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I just took it as a joke, honestly. I really wasn’t offended by it.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 19, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe a little
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 19, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch out Rocland. Your mom is next.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 20, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Get over myself? Does the truth hurt you that much?
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 20, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
i think you raise good points, especially with harrison. however in this case, as much as i hate roethlisberger, i don’t blame them for waiting to see if charges are filed. if they are, and the team doesn’t act swiftly, i’ll be the first to criticize them for it.
also, even if charges aren’t filed, the team should sit him down and rip him a new ass for his behavior and for putting himself in these positions in the first place. though i’m sure they won’t. they ’ll just trumpet their golden boy and blame everyone else.
I agree completely. They should let the situation play out for making any decision, I am just wondering if they will act consistently with past if the allegations hold any merit.
The James Harrison incident appears to be inconsistent with the Cedrick WIlson incident.
You only get cut if you are a 2nd or 3rd stringer ala Cedrick Wilson.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 11, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
exactly. the hypocricy isn’t the being cut, but the quote by rooney. I understand the being cut, but if you say you don’t condone violence of any kind, why not cut harrison? is one’s crime worse than the other? Actually, in their eyes Harrison’s wasn’t as bad b/c he was a good player…or at least that is what their actions say.
Good points Dawg. Here’s a link that Schefter posted on his Twitter account. I always thought Ben was a dick but this guy blows him out of the water…
“A respected Pittsburgh broadcaster voices his feelings on Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger.” http://is.gd/amyHu
by Monsters of the Midway on Mar 12, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Steeler Fan Disclaimer
Coming from my point of view your article hits many heated points that have been discussed over at BTSC. Although I wouldn’t say Steeler fans are hypocrites, if charges are filed and BB is guilty the case in the hands of ownership. Should they not act swiftly you could call them hypocrites. The court of public opinion on BB is very split right now after his latest act of foolishness. I personally don’t think there is any place for it charges or not. There is a strong movement within the fan base that wants him out.
As for the Cedric Wilson situation. he walked into a crowded restaurant walked up to his girl and hit her. There was no debate if he did it or not, the evidence was plain as day. I think BB is an ass with the ladies and I’m sure somethings not right. Should he catch charges and eventually be convicted I would expect the Rooney’s to part ways without hesitation.
Also one closing point…I don’t care what franchise in pro sports you are running, but your franchise 100M player will and probably should get preferrential treatment over say a third WR. That is he world we live in, not sure how hypocritical that really is.
by TheCommish on Mar 13, 2010 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with almost everything you say here. I agree that your franchise qb will get preferential treatment. I don’t agree that he should. just because that’s how the world works doesn’t make it any less hypocritical.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 13, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Good job NTN. I was typing something similar when yours popped up.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 13, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t care how popular and loved he is or how much money he makes, he is not above the law.
And if found guilty, I hope your FO does the right thing and sends him packing. I wouldn’t feel sorry for him. I would feel sorry for you fans over in Pitt.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 13, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you which is why I put the question mark at the end of the title. There is not enough evidence yet for the Rooney’s to make a decision on Ben. I do think it is hypocritical as someone else in this thread said, to make an example of a 2nd string player and use talking points like Rooney did, while ignoring it for a bigger name player if that is what turns out to happen.
There is one major difference between those cases and Big Ben’s case. Ben has not yet been arrested or charged…yet. There is also a larger stigma
And it may not be fair, but life isn’t fair. If you are a replaceable WR like Wilson you best be on your best behavior, if you are a superstar and you make the team millions of dollars, the team will see what they can do to keep the money coming in. At the end of the day this is all a business and is about making money.
Sorry, I got interrupted when typing, and when I came back I forgot what was in your original post, and I completed my reply with out re-reading. As evidident by my incomplete sentence in the first paragraph.
by OSUMoneyball on Mar 11, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yup. Stars can always get away with more than low-level players. That’s life.
by Buckeye Brad on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
The difference is one guy can be made an example of because his talent level was expendable, and the others guys are an intricate part of the teams success. We all know why Wilson could be cut, but Roethlisberger not, but this is the only forum where anyone will even mention the debate.
Kudos, Mr.Dorn.
You don´t want to support a guy with a pending case, if you´re not an eye witness. And if they claim it was off camera, so to speak, with a star the credibility goes down. You start talking in what ifs, but if it didn´t happen, you have to curse the system for allowing 300 million people to accuse a guy, on a whim, at any given time.
Now if Ben is a dastardly, bastardly goon, well yeah, then you´d bag him.
But personally I think he´s the Big Bear in the big blue house.
And if he did molest those women, beyond an acceptable flirtatious environment, I´m of course extremely dissappointed. Usually there is some kind of innuendo, for these accusations to even have a base. We´ll need the nasty details, I guess.
But until then, I guess he´s a semi fugitive in two states, as seems to be acceptable in the states.
what does the bear in the big blue house have to do with anything? Does he not know the meaning of no either?
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 11, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
He’s harmless.
Bear In the Bg Blue House
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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by Chris Pokorny on Mar 11, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I watched that show when i was 4 haha.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 11, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
You must be young. I don’t know what it is.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 11, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
me neither…what ever happened to Mr. Rogers and such….or better yet anyone remember Fragel Rock….loved that show when I was a lil tyke.
The new version of the Electric Company is pretty good. I like Yo Gabba Gabba as well.
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yo gabba gabba would be awesome on acid
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 11, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Luckily for us 30 is the new 20.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 12, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Mr. Rogers was cool. He always wore long sleeve shirts to cover up his tatts.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 11, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
One summer I was doing my job working with kids, and one child showed up wearing all blue. I asked her if she was dressing as a smurf today. All the kids looked at me and asked, “What’s a smurf?”
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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I remember Fraggle Rock, I was born after it ended, I’m pretty sure at least, so every time I watched it was possibly reruns.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 12, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
His best friend is a rat.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 11, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
From what I recall Cedrick Wilson DID hit his GF. He cam out and said he did it. As of now, all we know about Ben is that he has been accused two times. The first one, Ms. McNulty, pretty much appears that she was just crazy and called rape after a sexual encounter. As far as this second one, Ben is innocent until proven guilty and nothing surmountable has come out about the case. Ben has denied both occurrences. I am not saying he did or did not sexual assault anyone, just making a point. If teams went ahead and kicked every player off their team because of accusations I would file a lawsuit against every QB the Steelers faced, claiming he touched me inappropriately.
Anyway, I do believe that Ben will be in deep S, not with just the law but with the Rooneys, if it turns out that he sexually assaulted this woman. To what extent the punishment will be I will not speculate.
Additionally, I believe Harrison’s case was similar to Ben’s. He denied the accusation and then the charges were dropped.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
That’s right. The difference in this case is that Ben is not guilty of anything, except being really, really stupid. And if Rooney were to react strongly against stupidity, he would be slapping the faces of all Steelers fans… Heyoohhh!
Thank you. You can catch me all week down at the Best Western, just off exit 62 on the expressway…
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
He’s innocent until proven guilty. So, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him not guilty.
But there is no doubt that he is a moron. I mean, he is a freak of nature in terms of how his actions violate Darwin’s Law – the guy should have been dead after that accident; could have been thrown in jail after Lake Tahoe, and is pushing jailtime again. I think the reason we hate him so much is not because he is just a Steeler, but because he is living such a charmed life in spite of himself.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
In the eyes of the courts he is innocent until proven guilty, but in fact he is either guilty or innocent depending on what actually happened.
He then said she fell down and hit her head.
He essentially called her stupid and delusional. Nice Benny.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 11, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I heard that part too. Just to think that the girl accusing him is about 2 and a half years older than me makes me want to vomit. I mean, Ben is just gross.
by emily522 on Mar 11, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just saying, social boundaries for men and women relationships change dramatically over a short number of years.
Middle school: Heaven forbid you date outside of your grade and you’re certifiably insane to date a High school freshman when you’re still in 8th grade.
High school: Dating a year or two outside of your grade is fine but freshman/senior dating is a little much.
College: It’d be odd and weird to see an 18 year old with someone older than 25 – ish.
After college: Once you hit 20, I feel that older age boundaries don’t really apply anymore and it’s whatever.
That’s just me though.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 11, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec for Ben is just gross.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Laughed out loud at this comment at PFT:
You know, if Big Ben would make even a casual acquaintence with a bar of soap and a bottle of shampoo he may not have to force women to have sex with him. What a greasy bastard.
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by golanbatrac on Mar 12, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
That was a cheap shot - and hilarious.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 12, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
This … is … HILARIOUS
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 13, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
(hypothetical it didn't happen)
What would you call someone who falsely accused you of sexual assault? A nice person?
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
what would you call a person who rightly accused you of sexual assault if you stood to lose millions of dollars if convicted?
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 11, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
not saying he’s guilty. but it doesn’t sound good that there was contact then she “slipped and hit her head” when her story is that she left as soon as he assaulted her.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 11, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
You completely missed my point.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
No he didn’t, he was saying Ben isn’t necessarily innocent, and that from what any of us can tell it certainly doesn’t look like he was a model citizen in this situation.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
From what any of us can tell is that we know really nothing about the case. It’s just “he said, she said” right now. Anything we think we can tell is completely conjecture.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
From what any of us can tell is that we know really nothing about the case.
This is completely wrong. We know that Ben says that someone who accused him of serious crimes “slipped and hit her head”. We know that someone accused Ben of serious crimes and that there is enough to go on that police are investigating the matter and not dismissing it outright. We know Ben had contact with this woman. We know he has denied having sexual intercourse with this woman. We know two investigators are working full-time on this case. We know two more investigators are working part time on it. We know Ben loves nightlife, drinking, and aggressively hitting on girls:
Amber Hanley, a 21-year-old college student, said she and a few friends were also in the VIP area with Roethlisberger. She said she asked the quarterback to take a photo with her friend, who was a fan, but he seemed disappointed that’s all she wanted. Hanley said she rolled her eyes, and Roethlisberger called her an expletive and walked away. Later, Roethlisberger was aggressively hitting on another girl, Hanley said.
We know restaurant/bar owners have claimed he has tried to slip out on bills. We know Ben has been anything but elegant in the public eye, often being photographed in questionable situations. We know that he has been accused of sexual assault more than once, although he has not been found guilty.
None of that is completely conjecture.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Amber Hanley, a 21-year-old college student, said she and a few friends were also in the VIP area with Roethlisberger. She said she asked the quarterback to take a photo with her friend, who was a fan, but he seemed disappointed that’s all she wanted. Hanley said she rolled her eyes, and Roethlisberger called her an expletive and walked away.
Oh, that’s nice, Ben. Real nice. (If this is true.) God, who does he think he is? Ben, a 21 year old girl is not going to get with you when you look like a troll! The end.
No photos for girls who won’t put out, but one of the cops who’s investigating sexual assault allegations against him? Sure thing.
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by golanbatrac on Mar 12, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
according to espn he was one of the officers to respond to the incident, but is barely involved in the investigation.
still, what an idiot to be taking pictures with someone when you just got a call claiming they sexually assaulted someone.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
yeah this link isn’t working, and now i’m really curious what it was about
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Here is another link to the original article.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 12, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
i think you missed mine.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 11, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
No, I didn't.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
ok i’ll try to spell this out for you.
1. somebody said he basically called the girl stupid and delusional
2. you said thats what an innocent person would say, implying that it pointed towards ben being innocent.
3. I pointed out that its also what a guilty person would say, so it just ass easily could point to his guilt.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
You do realize that I said I didn’t miss your point?
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
ok then, please explain to me how i missed yours
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by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still waiting on an explanation of how we know “nothing” about the case.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
its been 5 days and i’ve yet to learn what his point was
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 17, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a Quarterback. They’re not going to completely destroy their team just to be politically correct
by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 11, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions
If he is found guilty
I don’t think he will be playing for the Rooneys for very long…
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
I wish the nfl would let them make the decision. if he is found guilty he won’t be playing in the nfl very long because of league actions, i doubt the rooneys would have to do a thing on their own.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 11, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’d be banned from the league. It wouldn’t be the first time an NFL player sexually assaulted a woman. However, that’s much irrelevant because I believe if found guilty the jail time ranges from 18months to 5 years of prison in Georgia.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
I didn’t say he would be banned from the league. I meant that they would suspend him for at least a season probably, and after that the rooney’s may not feel as much pressure to act.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Also, why did it take ESPN almost 4 hours to even report this story? Fox reported it right away.
To answer your question Dorn, It’s all politics.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
ESPN sat on the original story for DAYS, not hours.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 11, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I could have sworn it was at least mentioned.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 11, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure of it now. ESPN radio in LA brought it up hours after Fox did on that day.
But still, there’s something “buddy-buddy” between Pitt and ESPN.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 11, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
THIS. ESPN loves the Steelers more than John Madden loves Brett Favre.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty certain ESPN posted it on their site and then removed it. Then the focus shifted to Iverson for a bit and then Ben’s story became the focus.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
ESPN issued a “do not report” memo to their employees.
Here is the breakdown from PFT.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 12, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was talking about the recent accusation. I’m fairly hog certain that they put up an article, took it down and then put it back up later.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
My fault, I have no idea about the recent one.
At this point in time it seems like the media has taken off the gloves for Big Ben.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s a question for you guys: would you want Roethlisberger on the Browns even with all the problems he’s causing and how much of a douche he is? Assume he’d have the same success with the Browns as Steelers.
My answer would be no.
I’d wait and see what sort of evidence turns up and how the legal situation plays out, but I would say no if he is guilty.
if he’s guilty i hope he never plays again, especially not for the browns. That said, he probably would play again, but i still wouldn’t want him on the browns.
if he’s innocent, i don’t know. if it means a super bowl, i’m ok with having a douche like that on the team, as long as he doesn’t cross any bounderies. But just because they win doesn’t mean i have to like all the players.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
At best, he’s rude, classless, arrogant, completely lacking in common sense, and likely to star in the police blotter during any given week. At worst, he should be taken out back and castrated.
I think I’d pass.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 12, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I would have to say an emphatic no, especially after all the weeding out that has been done lately of players with “character issues”.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 13, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
I have a question for you guys…if you HAD to take one or the other…would you rather have Big Ben or Hines Ward wearing the Browns colors? That is a hard question…I can’t stand either, but would have to say Ben
I’d take Ben. Then I’d trade away Joe Thomas to the highest bidder, shop around the rest of the offensive line, and concentrate solely on building a completely dominant defense. Let’s see how many hits ol’ Ben can really handle!
(Wow, I feel uncomfortable even joking about a Joe Thomas trade.)
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 12, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thomas will hook your melon down the lane and get a strike.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 13, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Thomas looks at the pins and they fall down.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Mar 13, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He doesn’t even have to look at them, just think it.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 13, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
He sits at home and get’s a 300.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, just wow. I went over to the steelers blog to see what they thought of the whole thing. What a bunch of terrible people. Somebody said she was probably some dumb bitch who regretted sleeping with him and then cried rape, because that happens to stars all the time. Then someone from a different blog explained that sexual assault is actually an under-reported claim and very few athletes, let alone big stars, are ever accused of it. the response to that was:
I hate people like you that think they are holier than thou. Is the reason you hate jocks because they kicked your pansy ass and took your lunch money in school?
I can understand wanting to wait till he’s been proven guilty, but the overwhelming opinion over there seems to be that ben is a saint and this is obviously some whore looking for a check.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
I’ll link to the exact post i’m talking about
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2010/3/9/1364321/i-am-so-ticked-off-at-big-ben
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I have the self control to take a look over there now.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 12, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I hate defending Steelers fans, the guy you quote (DIRE WOLF) ends his first post with ’I’m not a Steelers fan…’, and a quick look at his profile confirms it (5 total posts at the Steelers blog, 2200 at the Cowboys blog).
To the credit of the regulars at the Steelers blog, they took him to task for what he said.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
after forcing myself to read further, I see I do indeed owe an apology to many of the people on the site.
That said, I think you need to look at the post i quoted again. there isn’t a single reply to it. i don’t see where they took him to task for what he said.
maybe you were referring to DogTown, who responded to DIRE WOLF’s original post, but he is not a steelers regular, and the response to him from a steelers regular called him an idiot, so clearly i don’t owe everyone an apology.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
this is from another post on their site, the link to it can be found in the new “around the pound.”
Do I want Ben Roethlisberger quarterbacking the Steelers in the future? Even if he is guilty of some sort of wrongdoing beyond merely carrousing with college students and making a tawdry advance at a young lady in a bar restroom? Yes, yes I do. I’m no legal expert, but I did a quick perusal of Georgian sexual assault laws and read that sexual battery (non-aggravated) is a misdemeanor, not a felony. It’s a serious misdemeanor, but we’re not (usually) talking jail time. Again, we don’t know what happened, but assuming Big Ben did in fact sexually assault this woman, I personally don’t think he’s committed a transgression that merits blackballing him from the Steelers organization permanently.he goes on to explain that his reason for wanting ben even if he’s convicted is because ben is a good quarterback. I draw the line there. I can’t respect a person who would forgive someone for sexual assault just because they’re a good football player.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that, too. Nice, real nice.
I’m no legal expert, but I did a quick perusal of Georgian sexual assault laws and read that sexual battery (non-aggravated) is a misdemeanor, not a felony. It’s a serious misdemeanor, but we’re not (usually) talking jail time.
Oh guys, chill! It’s a serious misdemeanor so it’s no big deal unless it’s a felony!
Hell, the other guy’s from Texas too. Any bets they’re the same person?
Anyway, you’re right. The Steelers faithful acted as we’d normally expect them to act.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Mar 12, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
also in response to the original intent of this fanshot, I think the linked article from around the pound confirms that yes, they are hypocrites. almost all of the responses are along the lines of “he shouldn’t be released or anything, but this is the last straw!” well, did Cedrick Wilson get a “last straw”? no. he didn’t. because he wasn’t the starting quarterback.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
this person sums it up nicely, even admitting the hypocrisy of it:
Ben made ANOTHER stupid mistake with whatever occurred in GA. That said, he is the best QB in the game in crunch time. He is the best QB in the league to lead this band of athlete’s. Let’s let the chips fall where they may. Like the Rooney’s I am disappointed and would say this is his last shot to grow up, behave and lead my team. The Rooney’s lead a model franchise but let’s face it…Pittsburgh ain’t the Vatican. If you produce, you get somewhat of a pass. See Ernie Holmes, Santonio Holmes, James Harrison etc.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 12, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
So what this guy is saying at the end is that smoking pot is as bad as beating your girlfriend or shooting at a police helicopter. I know pot is illegal, but tell me, has it killed nearly as many people as bullets and fists? Personally I would rather have a team full of stoners than a team full of alcoholics such as Big Ben or Jeff Reed.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 13, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
I hear pot secretly thinks women shouldn’t be in the workplace and even wants to repeal their right to vote, that bastard!
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 13, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I could see that one coming and it still made me laugh. Nicely done.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 13, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
The quote NTN put up really set up the whole thing.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 15, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyway, you’re right. The Steelers faithful acted as we’d normally expect them to act.
Well, not all. My friend’s (yeah, I have a friend who likes the Steelers…) probably in the minority, but she’s really disgusted about what Ben has done. I don’t know how she feels about him QB’ing, but she doesn’t think he should get off easy.
I heard once that the Steelers have the largest female fanbase in the NFL, I wonder how this will effect that.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 13, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well, people forget after awhile. If Ben’s found guilty, it wouldn’t surprise me if he still remained the Steelers QB. He’d probably get a suspension, right?.
Once he throws some TD passes and wins some more games, a lot of fans will probably forget about this. Sad, but true.
Being female, if Ben continued staying on the Steelers, I would probably still cheer for the team but my disgust for Ben would remain.
I think you mean the son of god, not a saint.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 13, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
How Arnold Palmer put Ben Roethlisberger in his Place
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Mar 14, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Great article.
I DON'T CONDONE INCEST. All I did was ask a question.
by North Coast Flea on Mar 15, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the Onion is supposed to be satire, so I was shocked to read a serious article.
by Roger Dorn on Mar 15, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
by the way, if anyone saw South park tonight, they made fun of Big Ben for being a sex addict. they started diagnosing some of the kids with it and they met him at a sex addiction clinic…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I thought it was weak.
When they were discussing money being the cause of sex addiction, I thought there were going to run with the “Obama is a socialist” theme.
I thought it was up and down. the whole money causes sex addiction was stupid
The stuff with obama wasn’t that great
The alien wizard thing was stupid
The thing with butters and kyle being sex addicts and kenny dying, and the butters obsession with bush was hilarious
The Tiger Woods game was hilarious
the part with the celebrities in sex addiction was funny
Ben roethlisberger jokes always get me.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
yeah that was hilarious. decent episode. funny at parts, but far from their best work.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 19, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yes. the last season was hit or miss.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I don’t know what season it was, but the Billy Mays/Micheal Jackson episode was great. “Make Billy Mays go away Kyle!”
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 20, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
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