2010 DBN Big Board
by rufio on Mar 21, 2010 9:50 PM EDT
328 comments
The DBN Big Board is back.
There are many draft gurus and player rankings out there this time of year, but not many that are specifically Browns-oriented. In anticipation of the Draft, I want to collectively rank the prospects as an online community. Do you think we should always take the best player available? Do you think our team-specific needs should play a role in who we value in the draft? How do you think the players stack up?
This is your chance to vote.
Here is how it will work: Using the Scouts Inc. rankings (yes, I am aware of how much you hate Todd McShay) I will compile a pool of 20 or so draft eligible players. We will take a poll and rank players five at a time--1 being the guy you would value the most if you were Mangini/Holmgren/Heckert, 2 being the guy you would take if your first choice was gone, 3 being next in line, and so on.
Every three days or so, the votes will be tallied, and we will take the five highest-ranked players out of the pool of eligible players and put them on our "DBN Big Board". I will add another 5 or so players to the draft-eligible pool, and we will vote again, ranking the next 5.
When we approach the draft, we will have ranked 50 or so players collectively.
If there are players you think I should include in the draft-eligible pool--especially if they aren't coming up in McShay's rankings, let me know and I will put them in for the next poll.
Here is the first poll:
Voting is now closed. Please vote on the next set of rankings!
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We should draft Eric Berry.
Wait, has someone said that yet?
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
Who’s that?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 21, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Eric Berry is a Marketing Specialist in Westchester, Illinois.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Mar 21, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll take him at 7 please.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 21, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That guy can’t hold a job. Look at all the companies he worked for.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 22, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I went pretty gut feeling on this. hopefully a large sample size will average out my ignorance.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
also, is there any way we can see the results of this as we go?
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 21, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t even figure out how to make a forced ranking poll that calculated this for me, so I do it manually in Excel. So sorry, but I don’t have the time (or knowledge) to provide real time updates.
If anyone knows how to do this and can help me figure it out, by all means, lets do it.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
yeah I figured it would be pretty hard to do unless the website already offered that functionality.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 22, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for taking the survey. Now create your own – It’s free, quick and easy.
Screw off SurveyMonkey.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 21, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
is this round by round or top 5 for the first round?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
The end result will be a linear draft board—players 1 through whatever we get to. It is not a mock draft, or a “who should be pick at what spot”, the issue is the ranking of players in the order that the Browns should draft them if they are available.
So if DBN were running the actual Browns’ draft, all we would do is select the highest ranked player on our board that is still available.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
This is probably the coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Props for the idea, rufio!
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine is
1. Berry
2. Suh
3. Dez – I know people hate on this guy, but you can’t deny his talent. His character concerns are overrated, too.
4. Thomas- FS or CB, may have better potential and versatility than…
5. Haden
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 21, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
I can hate on him for other reasons. I still don’t trust his deep speed and unless I see a really good number at the combine, I still am not going to trust it.
I don’t trust his route running. He didn’t run a lot of pro routes. His Dig and curl routes are a couple that didn’t look great to me.
I am not sold on his elusiveness or open field running. From what I saw, he only had an average initial burst off the line and that might hurt at creating separation.
He is the best WR in the draft, but He is not top 5 on my big board.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
He always got deep separation, I put more value in that than in a combine number.
Percy Harvin and Michael Crabtree were supposed to be awful route runners, they did great. Robiskie was supposed to be the best route runner, and he didn’t do well.
He was elusive enough to create a lot of YAC and he was a good punt and kick returner.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 21, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t always get deep separation. first of all no player ALWAYS gets deep sparation. I truly am not sold on his speed.
yeah. lets use an outlying example to prove a point. Bad route runners sometimes do well in the pros, but more often than not don’t. Just because a good route runner did poorly, and a bad route runner did well, doesn’t mean that the rule is invalid. the reasoning is invalid. I am not saying he won’t be good his rookie year either.
he to me didn’t look overly elusive when I saw him. his YAC production was decent, but not great.
so because he is a punt and kick returner he is atomatically the most elusive guy out there?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Outliers? Please.
The WRs last year that had route running concerns drafted early still did well.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 22, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well. austin collie was a crisp route runner and look at him.
the point is, you can take examples of guys that do well and are bad route runners. you can take examples of guys who were good route runners that don’t do well. does this mean route running doesn’t matter? no. you cannot judge a WHOLE GROUP on A FEW examples.
that is what going by outliers means.
You know what, drew brees doesn’t have a strong arm, jay cutler does. Brees>>>Cutler. does that mean Arm strength doesn’t matter? it does in many ways.
you can ALWAYS find an example where someone doesn’t fit the general rule. does that mean you should ignore the rule?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Do WRs stop learning how to run routes once they hit the NFL?
Do they forget how to get open?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
1. Haden
2. Berry
3. Iupata
4. Suh
5. Okung
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by golanbatrac on Mar 21, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Suh
2. Berry
3. Iupati
4. D. Morgan
5. Price
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 22, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
1. Bradford
2. Berry
3. Suh
4. McCoy
5. Haden
Brady Quinn will never be a good quarterback for the Browns.
1. Bradford
2. Berry
3. Haden
4. Wilson
5. D. Morgan
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
not even listing Suh?
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
We do so not need a tackle at #7. Bad second choice my friend.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 21, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
he may have been raking them in a BPA way and not need. I ranked mine combining both but focusing more on need…how you rank them is not a set rule.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Well, of course. But there is a point where BPA is not necessarily anything you need. We don’t need a RT at #7. That’s a terrible, terrible pick even for BPA.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 21, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be upset at Bulaga at 7.
I know it wouldn’t be of value, but if he is the BPA, I have no qualms with fixing RT for the next 7 or so years.
Of our last 11 first round draft picks, we have two still with this team. Joe Thomas and Alex Mack. Offensive lineman hold their value. That is why I had Iupati so high on my board. We need a solid pick at 7, and offensive lineman are always solid.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 22, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Bulaga was my #2 pick.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 22, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I can see Lupati, we need interior lineman. I just don’t think a RT at 7 is good.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 22, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Davis would be the best RT in this class. I think he will actually be the best tackle in this class whichever side he gets put at.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 22, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Mays over Haden? wow.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 22, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Couch
Courtney Brown
Gerard Warren
William Green
Braylon Edwards
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 22, 2010 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
When I saw the first name, I was like WTF?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?
Don’t forget Chaun Thompson. the guy who wasn’t good at a D2 school.
or sebastian Janikowski.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Did the Browns draft those guys in the first?
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 22, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 22, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Disregard this. It’s a hyperlinked picture fail.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 22, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t forget about him. Since it’s a list of FIVE players, he was merely just sacrificed.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 22, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Would it be considered selfish to tell him?
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 23, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
no way
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Since it has one rec already, I would feel uncomfortable telling someone how to green my post.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 23, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, I should mention that I love this idea. We need a link to last years final board so we can see how we stacked up.
Here is last year’s final DBN Big Board
Top 5:
1. Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
2. Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas
3. Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
4. Beanie Wells, RB, the Ohio State University
5. Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
…Wow.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 22, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
coulda had maualuga in the second…. damn mangini refusing to draft achoholics
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Not without trading future picks, we couldn’t have.
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by golanbatrac on Mar 22, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I got Lauranitis and Maualuga mixed up.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Mar 22, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I still find that slightly upsetting. Just knowing JL turned out to be the second best linebacker from that draft. Behind only Brain Cushing.
I’m confident that if the rams had passed we would have picked Laurenaitis. Maualuga is just as good but tons of teams passed because they knew he was a drunk. Or so the rumor goes.
"My signature is only one line. You're welcome."
Maualuga is just as good
No, he is not. Really, it’s not even close.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Mar 22, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
My understanding was that he was passed over because teams didn’t trust his on field decision making.
He is out of position a lot.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 22, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
(X+4)2=1(3x)
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 23, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate Matrices.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 23, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
seconded, but i can’t get away from them
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The only Math I needed to take in College was Algebra II for a semester since I’m a Social Studies teacher. I’m done with it for life now.
It still pissed me off though because I already had a Pre – Calc credit from my Junior year of High School and apparently it didn’t count. So why the hell did I take it?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 23, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve had to take calc 3, diff EQ, and about a million physics classes that all use complicated math. the strange thing is I feel comfortable with things like double integrals and multiple partial derivatives but I’m still scared of matrices.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean Monomials, Binomials, Trinomials aren’t used in teaching about Native Americans?
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 23, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
NOT POSSIBLE!
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 24, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say Clay Matthews is much better than JL.
That’s coming from a Buckeye fan.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 22, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s completely and totally wrong, especially with the words “much better” being used.
Why do say that?
Just for reference
Player A: 16 starts, 120 tackles (107 solo), 2 sacks, 2 interceptions, 5 passes defended
Player B: 16 starts, 50 tackles (36 solo), 10 sacks, 0 interceptions, 7 passes defended
For the record, the do play completely different styles of linebacker. Mathews primarily being a pass rushing OLB, in the 3-4, on a team with great pass coverage (Charles Woodson having a career year), finishing 5th in the league. Laurinaitis being a MLB in the 4-3, forced to anchor the team’s defense, also showing the ability to pick the ball off.
and he shows the ability to occasionally get to the QB.
I agree with you. they are 2 completely different positions. It is truly like comparing apples to oranges.
If you put JL as a 3-4 OLB, he would NOT get 10 sacks (but may get more solo tackles)
If you put Clay at the 4-3 MLB, he would not get close to 100 solo tackles (but might get a couple more sacks).
While they are both linebackers they have 2 completely different roles, positions, and skill sets. neither one can do the other’s job better.
It is like comparing people who have jobs in a similar market or area of the market, but the responsibilities are completely different. you cannot say accurately which one is better at their job (maybe you could a little easier with actual jobs, but still)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Player C: 15 starts, 137 tackles (108 solo), 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 6 passes defended
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Beats me, I couldn’t find any rookie (or any player) with those statistics, at least not this season.
?
Wali Rainer, Cleveland Browns (1999).
The point being: an ILB on a truly bad team can rack up impressive numbers. The jury’s still out on JL.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Mar 23, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Andra Davis effect?
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 23, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Every time I watched the Packers, Matthews was all over the place.
I think that Matthews will grow into one hell of a football player and will be a multiple time Pro Bowler (already been to one). Dude can play anywhere in that defense. I think JL is more like a Levon Kirkland.
As for JL and the Rams, who else was going to make tackles?
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
that may be a valid point. JL seemed to be in a lot of places on the Rams D too. I just feel that they have 2 different roles and it is hard to accurately judge who is “better”. It is hard to judge who is “better” at a role after one season.
After Wimbley’s rookie season, I would say he may be better than either…look now.
I just don’t feel that you can compare 2 players, in one isolated season, who play 2 different roles, and get an accurate reading of who is “better”.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I can respect your opinion, but disagree. I don’t see JL stats just being a product of a bad team. He has the skills and talent to do this anywhere.
And I still think the case can be made that the opposite might be the case for Mathews. The fantastic pass coverage on the Packers, allows for a lot more sacks and other plays to be made. I’m not aware that it is, just saying it’s plausible.
Only time will tell, but I’m sure both will be great linebackers for some time in this league.
Lastly, the asinine popularity contest that is the Pro Bowl shouldn’t even be mentioned as any indication of a players talent. Unless your ready to defend David Garrard?
To be fair, Garrard was something like the 9th AFC QB to be named.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think JL will be a consistently good ILB in the league, putting up those kinds of numbers every year.
I do not think he has the physical ability to truly be a great ILB in the league. He is miles away from Willis or Lewis.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Yeah, you all are right. No one on here likes players more than they should because of the school they attended.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 22, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
you realize there’s a USC player on there and a Texas player on there right? My guess is most Ohio state fans don’t like USC or Texas. I also think Beanie Wells deserved to be ranked highly (maybe not top five, but probably top 15), and remember, I don’t care about college football.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve admitted several times that I’ve got a bias in favor of Ohio State players, but only to a certain extent. (I still hate Holmes, like everyone else here.)
That doesn’t mean I’m going to be a fan of what ever team drafts Terrelle Pryor. And if the situation ends up anything like Quinn’s, follow them up until said team realizes their QB sucks and was a major bust, and trades him for some lint in the Bronco’s pockets. Then become a Bronco fan only to watch him either ride the bench or fail miserably there.
I’ve admitted several times that I’ve got a bias in favor of Ohio State players, but only to a certain extent.
That makes sense, though. You watch them a lot more than any other college team, so you’re able to recognize and evaluate their talent a lot easier.
But not against other top talents if that’s the only school you’re watching. And let’s face it, most of the time OSU’s playing scrubs.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think “scrubs” is a pretty strong word. I acknowledge that the overall level of the SEC, for example, is superior to the Big 10 (11), but the upper half of the conference has strong teams, and OSU has scheduled some good national opponents in the past few years. True, they haven’t beaten most of them, but they’re playing top 10 teams annually. So, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota: yeah, pretty weak sisters for the most part, and Michigan the last couple of years. But Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin and sometimes Northwestern are competitive or excellent teams. I don’t think they can be called “scrubs” by any stretch.
I still reserve the right to call them ‘scrubs’ until they pull a Purdue over us. Teams that are constantly being beaten out by us I will continue to dub ‘scrubs’. Mostly because I like the show. :3
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s is blatantly false and sounds like the same typical ignorant generalizations we hear from an SEC fanboy trolls.
What was the Big 10’s record in bowls this year, and how did they stack up against the SEC?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Whatever you say, man.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 22, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Not real fans anyway, I could care less if the Browns draft a guy from Florida, USC, or god forbid another Notre Dame QB…lol. They are Browns from that point on..unless traded or cut :)
Love the Team not the Players
by Mr Orange on Mar 22, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At which point they stop being Browns and become super stars.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Seeing Maualuga at #5 is kinda funny considering he is hated on quite a bit by everyone.
by BornInThePound on Mar 23, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I know, at least outside of this blog, there was a lot of (unwarranted, IMO) love for Maualuga when draft day got closer. I didn’t understand why, but a lot of average fans around my area really wanted us to take him. Perhaps they just wanted a bigger name? I think maybe some of the more casual fans like to their teams to draft the big names they heard called more often on Saturdays.
Bruce Drennen did everything but dry-hump Maualuga’s leg in the weeks leading up to the draft.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
If it´s not Jimmy Clausen, I´m blank, given the choices we´re given.
It doesn´t get tasty until you´re into most guys´ third round.
If we could move Major Wright to cornerback, I´d upgrade him, take him mid first round, if we can get it. Stuart Schweigert, who was the Michigan state High School champion in the 100 Meter Sprint, and was very successful at Purdue, got cut by the Detroit Lions last year. They´d make nice bookmark safeties. They´re both 6foot1, strong and fast, and not adverse to contact.
McCoy at Nose Guard would not hurt me. Torrell Troup, Central Florida, is much more preferable. If you crank the hype, he´s also acceptable as a late first round draft pick.
Since Mike Holmgren adressed the Offensive Line as a problem, I repeat my solutions:
OT Joe Thomas
OG Mike Goff
C Eric Steinbach…Alex Mack to Nose Guard
OG Chris Kuper/Logan Mankins/Marshall Yanda…take your pick
OT Tony Pashos
CB Major Wright (1st round with CB designation)
CB Stuart Schweigert (cut by Lions last year)
FS Eric Wright (I still have hope he will tackle people)
SS Abe Elam (one of the better Strong Safeties in the league, so why draft another one?)
With this or a similar solution, maybe Prez Holmgren can warm to Jimmy Clausen.
by mooncamping on Mar 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that, in a draft with talent like Gerald McCoy and Ndamukong Suh, you’d prefer Torrell Troup.
But here’s the real gem, Alex Mack to nose guard!
I know! in my opinion he has the ideal body type for a guard.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 22, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God!!! Mooncamping is back and spouting nonsense! I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a week there…
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah it was scary how many of his posts made sense
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
so we should draft steinbach, elam, and eric wright this year?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Oh, was this a fantasy prompt? I hate fantasy.
by mooncamping on Mar 23, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you understand what fantasy football is?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
One could only imagine what Moon’s fantasy team would look like????
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Rob Konrad surrounded by other FB’s that are either retired or still in college.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you post all this to Cleveland.com and see what kinda responses you get?
Y’know. Just for laughs?
Probably the only Cleveland Browns fan in all of Sydney, NSW.
Out of curiosity, how many “succesful” former Florida players are there in the NFL?
One picture is worth 128K words.
http://www.gatorzone.com/football/draft/index.php?year=2003&page=year
Not the best list of players, but here is most of them
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Thanks. Well atleast they have Percy going for them. If there’s a way we can trade Rodgers to Oakland for their first, I say we take Haden, or trade down and get Kyle Wilson. This is assuming we get Berry at 6.
One picture is worth 128K words.
To be fair, Meyer is fairly new at Florida. New enough that it shouldn’t be expected that players he recruited and worked with for 3-4 years could have already been able to mature in the NFL.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Murphy did pretty good for having played for the Raiders.
Caldwell is what you expect from a third rounder.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 22, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Pouncy will do well too. I think Major Wright will produce like you’d expect for where he is drafted.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Pouncey is Jeff Faine 2.0. Wouldn’t draft him in the AFC north
by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 23, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Faine make a pro bowl after he left?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I think the point about pouncey is that he wouldn’t fit in the AFC north. This is true in a sense.
Faine made pro bowls after he left but he tended to struggle against big NTs. He had decent strength but he did seem to struggle at the POA when lined up against a NT. while the bengals don’t run a 3-4 I believe, you have to beat the Ravens and Steelers to do well in the division and to beat them, you can’t be overpowered by the NT.
I dunno if anyone thinks a team in the AFC north will actually draft him (he definitely won’t go to the browns)
Both however do have a similar negative attached to them in a lot of scouting reports. Faine wasn’t overly strong and one criticism was that he lacked a mean streak. that showed when facing big snack. Pouncey has some of the same weaknesses. he has solid strength but isn’t overly strong. He isn’t overpowering or a mauler and lacks the mean streak.
that being said, both are great.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
This long post could have been summarized simply as
like Faine, Pouncey is weak against NT and like Faine, wouldn’t be great in a heavy 3-4 division like the AFC North. The browns shouldn’t draft him
by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 24, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
after he left
emphasize on that
by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 24, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Where’d this “Major Wright” thing come from? Honestly, I’ve never heard it before.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a DB from Florida in this years draft.
I like him as a sleeper.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. he is one of a few safeties i really like in this draft. this draft is surprisingly deep in safeties (and a lot of other positions).
There are a lot of guys I would like the browns to take around that area (third round-ish)
Personally, out of the 3-4 Safeties projected around the third round, stuckey may be my favorite and I also think he may be the one the browns are most likely to get.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Did anyone see Peter King quote Pioli today in MMQB? Could be a bluff, but makes me think Pioli will stick to his guns and go with positional value at pick 5 meaning Berry looks likely to at least get to pick 6.
Pioli would trade down too. I’m confident if we want berry we can swap picks with the chiefs for very little.
"My signature is only one line. You're welcome."
Whether it’s the Chiefs or someone else ahead of us, I think we have the picks to afford to trade up for Berry, and it would be well worth it.
this
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 22, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, we could wait until he gets to pick 7.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 22, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m afraid of exposing Berry to seattle, unless a player like Gerald McCoy is also available to them. Now that they have acquired Charlie Whitehearst I’m guessing they will pass on Clausen. Their options are Berry or a tackle. If the redskins and chiefs both take offensive tackles the seahawks will be down to the third best left tackle or Berry. I’m guessing Pete Carroll takes Berry there.
"My signature is only one line. You're welcome."
Whitehurst won’t affect their decision on Clausen
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 23, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It may, or it may not.
i believe it won’t.
Maybe whitehurst was signed purely as a backup or a guy to show Clausen the ropes in the league. Maybe Whitehurst in a way was a smokescreen.
Or maybe, they think that whitehurst has something special that they are looking for that they don’t see in clausen. I can’t tell you what they may see, I am not them.
I believe whitehurst won’t but I cannot make a statement that it 100% won’t at all.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Maybe Whitehurst in a way was a smokescreen.
A smokescreen that cost 8 million and a draft pick? Doubt it.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
8 million and a draft pick also seems like a costly investment if they still planned on drafting Clausen, also sacrificing 6 overall (which could mean G. McCoy, Okung, Berry, etc…)
It seems to me like it would have an impact, but I could be wrong.
that too…it is a lot to invest in a backup QB…and if you invest #6 pick money in another QB, it becomes a lot of money at one position.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
How many years is that 8 million?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Yet WE’RE the team that signed Jack F****** Delhome to 7 million.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The Browns apparently also signed Jack’s twin brother Jake to a contract. Should be interesting to watch
/sarc/
by drjeo on Mar 23, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I doubt it too. Coaches may do elaborate things for a smokescreen…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Like signing Delhome for 7 million or claiming the world will explode into a pile of brand name muffins if they’re not allowed to draft Bradford or Berry.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you people think of Dez Bryant? I realize we drafted MoMass and Robiskie last year in 2nd round, but if Berry isn’t there I think we should seriously consider Bryant… the west coast offense relies heavily on talented WRs and after watching videos of Bryant I now am very excited at the prospect of getting him. I think probably the biggest thing holding us back would be character concerns…
I have not watched interviews or really followed him off the field at all. Purely based on his on-field talent and position, he would not be that far down my list of players to take at 7.
I would like to trade down more than I would like picking him, though.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Dez Bryant is an animal, but I hate drafting a wideout that high when we have such huge hole elsewhere on this team.
Realistically you could start the season with Robiskie and MoMass and Stuckey and feel like you might be at least adequate. You just can’t go into next year with the same defensive secondary we had last year.
"My signature is only one line. You're welcome."
If Robiskie and Mass did not improve from last year, and we went in with those 3WRs, I would feel like we would be in the discussion for worst WRs in the league.
If we went in to next year with exactly the same team as last year, you could say the same things about S, TE, CB, RT, and QB.
There are big holes everywhere, and the only positions we shouldn’t think about at #7 are RB, C and LT.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
probably LG and KR as well, though anyone that would take those positions that high is probably crazy (unless that LG is a generational talent).
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 22, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I think we could move the Guards around such that our best 5 play, as I don’t think they have as specialized roles as LT/RT. So I think we could take a G and make him or Steinbach the RG.
KR was a big oversight on my part.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Steinbach fits great as the left guard. He is on the small, athletic side and can pull effectively. Usually your left side is more apt pass protectors and your right side is a bit larger and better at run blocking, since you generally run to the right a little more.
I’m guessing they will add one or two guys in the draft and have porkchop, pashos and a couple rookies fight it out for those two spots on the right side.
"My signature is only one line. You're welcome."
And don’t foget about all-around Steeler Ass-kicking utilitiy guy. More would be nice, but we’ve already got one of those.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Compensatory picks were awarded today. The Bengals somehow got a third and a fourth. We got bupkis.
Our picks:
7 38 71 85 92 105 134 137 146 160 177 186
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I can’t think of any free agents that we lost last season.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 22, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured. I was just asking. We lost maybe pool and hadnot…but we got at least like 4 guys from FA that weren’t on our team before.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Compensatory picks are doled out the next season i believe, so if we get any picks for pool or hadnot they will be awarded in the 2011 draft.
I could have misunderstood this when it was explained to me, so you might want to double check it.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
We did lose Andra Davis and Sean Jones. I don’t know how compensatory picks work, but I thought we might’ve got something for them.
by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 23, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We picked up 4 FAs that year. I think that nullifies and compensation.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 23, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
According to the PD, the system for handing out compensatory picks is “incomprehensible”. Big surprise.
I believe how many FAs we signed vs lost, as well as the performance of those FAs (that we both signed and lost) all come in to play. I assume the “performance” aspect of this is tied to the league’s pool of money for players who outperform their contracts, which is a far from perfect way of determining performance.
All that said, I think the FAs we signed could have easily displaced Davis and Jones’ production with their new teams.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
According to the PD, the system for handing out compensatory picks is "incomprehensible". Big surprise.
Is the faux surprise about the NFL having an incomprehensible system or the PD not being able to understand something?
Brady Quinn will never be a good quarterback for the Browns.
The PD not being able to understand something/thinking that their readers are too stupid to understand it.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Sean Jones and Andra Davis.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Mar 23, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I should have said I can’t think of any good free agents we lost last season.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
If Ryan Fitzpatrick netted the Bengals a 4th, you’d think the two players above would be worth a 7th at the very least.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
but we lost those guys a while ago…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Compensatory picks are granted for players lost in the previous year.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Ohhhhh….
I think maybe fitz netted them a 4th b/c
a) he isn’t a brown
b) he is a QB.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Here’s something I recently learned: the prefix “fitz” combined with another name (Fitzgerald, Fitzpatrick, etc.) originally meant “bastard of”. So, calling somebody Fitz is the same as calling him bastard. Weird, but might be useful in a weird kind of way.
From Wikipedia:
Fitz forms a prefix to patronymic surnames of Anglo-Norman origin. This usage derives from the Norman fiz / filz, prononciation: /fits/ (cognate with French fils < Latin filius), meaning “son of”, which was coupled with the name of the father (e.g. Fitz Gilbert, meaning “son of Gilbert”) in the noble families according to the scandinavian tradition to add -son behind the father’s name. Although there are exceptions in which the name of a more noteworthy mother (Fitz Wymarch), or parent’s title (Fitz Count, Fitz Empress) was instead used.
No mention of bastardhood.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
that doesn’t mean that it isn’t true/
Wikipedia can be useful. However the most glaring problem with Wikipedia is omissions, sometimes glaring omissions…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Joe Thomas, hallowed by thy name, protect and preserve us from another Wikipedia conversation, amen.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is Wiki-reliability a recurring topic of conversation here? I hadn’t noticed, if it is.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I don’t think recurring, but there was a long digression on the subject while you were away. Bross made a comment about Wikipedia’s reliability, and much amusement ensued. Here be said dragons:
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2010/2/8/1288012/7-round-browns-mock-draft#30591213
I think the subject has been covered – at least until the next bold claim surfaces.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 23, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
as no one says its infallible, I think we are set…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I say it is infallible!
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 23, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
nope. it has some mistakes…but so does brittanica
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Bross, do you really want to start this discussion again?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
dude it was a joke
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Mar 24, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Good stuff. Thanks for the link!
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
No sweat. Glad it was still worth reading downstream.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitz Fitz noun [ Old French fils , filz , fiz , son, French fils , Latin filius . See Filial .] A son; — used in compound names, to indicate paternity, esp. of the illegitimate sons of kings and princes of the blood; as, Fitz roy, the son of the king; Fitz clarence, the son of the duke of Clarence.
Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary 1913 edition, via http://www.encyclo.co.uk/webster/F/35
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 23, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
In that definition, Fitz is a noun, not a prefix. While bastard applies to the compound names Fitz roy and Fitz clarence, it doesn’t apply to names like Fitzgerald or Fitzpatrick in which ‘Fitz’ is used as a prefix.
That appears to be how it works.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I think you’re right, although “Fitz roy” often got merged into “Fitzroy” and so on, so the prefix \ compound distinction is pretty unclear in common usage. If I understand it, the origins of Fitzgerald and Fitzpatrick seem to predate the illegitimacy angle.
If you modified drjeo’s statement so it didn’t use those examples and added ‘sometimes’, it’d still be accurate.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Educational, this. DBN often reminds me of a Dr. Seuss book: Oh, the Places You’ll Go!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 23, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he was. He was also a WWII cartoon artist who depicted Nazis and minority groups in a pretty vulgar fashion.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 23, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it funny that you say that.
From what I read he was one of the first people to come out against the Nazis. please show me a link to some sort of cartoon (or alternate universe) where this is true.
he also wrote a book about the problems of discrimination.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
sorry, but you should be banned from any further conversations regarding race and discrimination on this site. just sayin.
by Dawg Nuts on Mar 23, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
just sayin…
my point is valid, I shouldn’t be banned from conversation.
Where are these mysterious 3rd reich cartoons from Dr. Seuss.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Stop.
Now.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
what?
The guy is saying that Dr. Seuss was a Nazi Sympathizer…Its just not true…Can I not call him out on that?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
You don’t need to have an answer for everything. Especially with your 5 internet windows open and searching for facts non stop just to have a point about anything and everything.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Mar 24, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
geez…
Especially with your 5 internet windows open and searching for facts non stop
this is just wrong. I knew from my knowledge of Dr. Seuss that he actually was one of the first people to speak out AGAINST hitler…
I don’t need to have an answer to everything, but at the same time, do I have the right to call someone out if they are being an idiot and spreading not only false facts, but very strong false facts…
I am sorry. I take crap about Nazis and the Holocaust pretty seriously and take it seriously when a serious accusation like that is made…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Just stop.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
what. So you are allowed to criticize about the Al Sharpton comment and everyone else does, but when I try to call someone out on a blatant lie about a serious subject, it isn’t okay?
what gives me any less right to call someone out on here than another?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Don’t fuck with me, Bross.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Mar 24, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Again, you need to stop. Not after another comment. Not after you post “okay”, I mean now.
I don’t need an answer to every single post. If someone said something that you believe isn’t correct, feel free to email them about it.
This is a thread for the Browns big board. We don’t need another thread hi-jacked with political discussions or anything like that.
Again, just because you feel differently about something does NOT mean that you have to be baited into a long discussion.
If it is Brown related, then by all means let’s talk. If it is about Dr. FREAKING Suess, let it go.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 24, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I am done with it anways…
There is a difference though about feeling different about something and someone making a completely false statement.
there is opinion and there is fact.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
This is exactly what I am talking about.
You don’t always need the last word.
Just let it go.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 24, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wow, Bross is calling ME out saying that I’m full of shit. Funny.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 24, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And here I was going to regard his request for verifiable facts as progress.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 24, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this comment with me or against me?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That comment prefers not to take sides.
Seriously, I just meant that you could mock bross for asking for provable facts, or you could say hey, here’s someone who’s coming around on the value of verifiable information. Your choice I guess.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
After the war his feelings changed, see Horton Hears a Who.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
yes. I knew he had some anti-japanese feelings.
however, he never was a nazi sympathizer as SB claims.
also check out the sneeches. that was all about not predudging people.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
My response was to SB.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
yes…I wasn’t sure. I was trying to expand on your point anyways…is that a bad thing?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
No, I just didn’t want you to think i was questioning what you typed.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
And you’re right, he wasn’t a sympathizer. Just like I said, thanks for agreeing.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I apologize for bringing up Dr. Suess. I was not aware that he was such a sore subject around there parts.
I apologize for bringing up Dr. Suess. I was not aware that he was such a sore subject around these parts.
What’s with the self-quoting, gahnki? Joke I’m missing there?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 24, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, very good. Looked right past that!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 25, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry. I got out of hand.
To me, I like Dr. Seuss and have a lot of respect for him.
Plus, if this started as a joke (or as a false accusation) I do take things about Nazis pretty seriously…I would say that wouldn’t be a matter to joke about or take lightly unless you know the audience (and now you know)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
It was a reference to the misinformation that was propagated through Wikipedia.
I was not condoning fascist, anti-semitic behavior. I’m sorry if I confused you into believing I was a Nazi.
I didn’t think you were.
I think it was SBs comment that got me going. I took it way to seriously and sometimes I do that about that part of history.
I do agree that sometimes there is misinformation on Wikipedia and sometimes they leave out major elements
However, there are many types of articles it has that would not be found anywhere else…plus there is always the fun little tidbit that you only find on wikipedia (like including Demaryius Thomas’ nickname of Bey-Bey)
and Again, I apologize for those who had to see all those new posts.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Dude, don’t get chocked up that I de – faced Dr.Seuss k?
And I was just saying that because I’ve witnessed an actual book of all his WWII Editorials, and they were pretty vulgar depictions even though they were still all seussical characters. And just letting you know, most of the time you’re un – credible, so it was really an insult that you called me out. And finally when you call someone out, bring factual evidence also, because you falsifying statements like you claimed me to be doing.
Now, back to football please.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 25, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
What was the name of that Seuss collection so I can research this myself?
And goshdarnit, let’s just talk about football from now on, please!
(WARNING: THIS IS SARCASM)
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 25, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Seuss Goes to War: The World War II Editorial Cartoons of Theodor Seuss Geisel
Good read. Well worth the thirty bones.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Thank you.
There’s my proof.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 25, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool, danke.
And now, we shall not speak of this matter again.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 25, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought they got the fourth rounder for TJ Housh, but I could be wrong. I will try and find some info on it.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The article I read said a third for Andrews and a fourth for Fitz. Not sure now where it is I read it though.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I found this from the Cincinnati Bengal Examiner:
The league announced Monday the Cincinnati Bengals are one of 19 teams who will receive compensatory picks in the upcoming 2010 NFL Draft. The Bengals received a third round (96th overall) because of the loss of wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh to the Seattle Seahawks and a fourth round (131st overall) after right tackle Stacy Andrews signed with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Anyway ya cut it, the Bengals got a decent haul for their troubles.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s 12:38, Wednesday, March 24th, 2010 and Braylon Edwards still sucks.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
Additions to Board
Maybe add the two PSU LB’s to the board, Sean Lee and Navarro Bowman. I know these guys may not be considered first round talent, but anyone who has watched them play can tell you that they are in on virtually every play, and are very sound tacklers with good football IQ.
Without looking it up, doesn’t Bowman have some off the field issues?
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 24, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
and where would either fit in our D? Would Lee be an ILB?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
They are both ILBs in our 3-4.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
He was, but ever since that incident, which was about a year and a half? ago, he’s been good. So it would still be somethinhg to consider before drafting, but his talent is definately first round. So maybe not worthy of the board but if he’s available round 2, it would bea steal.
I see that you are new to the board, so this is a friendly reminder to use the reply button. It is below each post and it keeps the comments straight.
You wanted to reply to my comment above, just click the reply button, a new box appears, and you can type your message in there.
Look forward to seeing more of your posts.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 24, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
would anyone mind a breakdown on Delhomme in 2009? it may take me a week but i’d do one if its cool.
Go for it. A Delhomme primer would be useful, for sure.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I am excited to see if my prognosis of Delhomme being horrible is true.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
At the risk of being depressing, I’d like to read that, sleepy042. Thanks!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 24, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Whats with the clusterf’’k of Dr Seuss and Nazi posts?
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 25, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Just some Browns stuff.
What is the latest on the Broncos?
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 25, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
IDK, haven’t been thinking NFL a whole lot lately?
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 25, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
its a new offense that Haskill is working on involving plays like green eggs, a cat in the hat (wildcat play), and ham (Hillis-goal line play).
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
by Kimble_79 on Mar 25, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The “Oh, the places you’ll go” Special Teams formation.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 25, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Cribbs at QB: “There’s a Wocket in our Pocket!”
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Mar 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And to think I saw it on Prospect Ave.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 28, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
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