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Beat the House: WR Edition

Here are parts 1, 2, and 3.  This is the fourth installment of an on-going series:  If you are new to the site, please read the prior installments for an explanation of what this is.

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This is bross-like length.  I apologize ahead of time.

I understand why picking a wide receiver high is a sexy pick.  They sell jerseys and they are fun to watch.  Throw it deep and let Larry Fitzgerald go get it.  Throw a screen to Andre Johnson and watch as he sheds tackles for long gains.  I understand why it could be great.  

Having a game breaking WR is one of the greatest weapons that a NFL team can have.  Ask any coach that has had a motivated Randy Moss.  They change the game, even when they aren't being thrown the ball.  

Is the risk worth the reward in taking a WR early?

Going back to the '99 draft, there has been 46 WR's taken in the first round, for an average of 4.2 every year.  How many of those WR's are worth the pick?

After getting a lot of help from DBN, especially Danvail, we have made some changes in the system.  First of all, we have switched to football outsiders for the data.  If you haven't been there, you should check them out.  They have made my life much easier.  We used Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement or DYAR.  If you need a breakdown on what that means, here is a link explaining it.

As for the scoring we went with the following:

6 points for Elite (a top 10 rank in DYAR)

3 points for #1 WR (a top 32 rank in DYAR)

1 point for a starter WR (a top 64 rank in DYAR)

So we went back and looked at every WR drafted since '99.  We also looked into a draft myth/rumor/common belief, does it really take three seasons to see a WR come into their own?  Does a great WR show signs in the first two years?  

Wide Receivers taken in the first round ranked by points;

 

  1. Reggie Wayne [39 points total, 3 in first two years]
  2. Tory Holt [35 points total, 7 in first two years]
  3. Larry Fitzgerald [27 points total, 6 in first two years]
  4. Andre Johnson [24 points total, 6 in first two years]
  5. Santana Moss [19 points total, 0 in first two years]
  6. Plaxico Burress [19 points total, 3 in first two years]
  7. Lee Evans [14 points total, 4 in first two years]
  8. Santonio Holmes [13 points total, 6 in first two years]
  9. David Boston [12 points total, 3 in first two years]
  10. Javon Walker [12 points total, 3 in first two years]
  11. Donte Stallworth [12 points total, 4 in first two years]
  12. Roddy White [10 points total, 0 in first two years]
  13. Roy E. Williams [10 points total, 2 in first two years]
  14. Calvin Johnson [8 points total, 7 in first two years]
  15. Ashley Lelie [8 points total, 4 in first two years]
  16. Anthony Gonzalez [6 points total, 6 in first two years]
  17. Michael Clayton [6 points total, 6 in first two years]
  18. Braylon Edwards [6 points total, 2 in first two years]
  19. Michael Jenkins [5 points total, 1 in first two years]
  20. Dwayne Bowe [5 points total, 4 in first two years]
  21. Koren Robinson [5 points total, 3 in first two years]
  22. Peter Warrick [4 points total, 0 in first two years]
  23. Bryant Johnson [4 points total, 0 in first two years]
  24. Travis Taylor [3 points total, 0 in first two years]
  25. Rod Gardner [3 points total, 3 in first two years]
  26. Reggie Williams [3 points total, 0 in first two years]
  27. Matt Jones [3 points total, 2 in first two years]
  28. Robert Meachum [3 points total, 0 in first two years]
  29. Percy Harvin [3 points total, 3 in first season*]
  30. Jeremy Maclin [3 points total, 3 in first season*]
  31. Hakeem Nicks [3 points total, 3 in first season*]
  32. Mark Clayton [2 points total, 1 in first two seasons]
  33. Kenny Britt [1 point total, 1 in first season*]
  34. David Terrell [1 point total, 1 in first two seasons]
  35. Freddie Mitchell [1 point total, 0 in first two seasons]
  36. Troy Williamson [1 point toal, 1 in first two seasons]
  37. Troy Edwards [0 points]
  38. R. Jay Soward [0 points]
  39. Sylvester Morris [0 points]
  40. Charles Rogers [0 points]
  41. Rashaun Woods [0 points]
  42. Ted Ginn [0 points]
  43. Craig Davis [0 points]
  44. Darrius Heyward-Bey [0 points]
  45. Michael Crabtree [0 points, but was on the verge]
  46. Mike Williams [0 points]
So, what do we make of this info?

These Wideouts have combined for 221 seasons in the NFL.  Combined they have accumulated 333 points.  On average, they avaerage 1.5 points a season.  According to this scoring system, that is a starter or top 64 in DYAR.  Over a 6 season career that would be 9 points total.

The closest to average for this exercise is Roy E. Williams of the Dallas Cowboys (10 points in 6 seasons).  That should give you some idea what the average WR drafted in the first round should give you.

Does that excite you?  Considering I think Roy Williams kinda sucks, it doesn't make my socks go up and down, but maybe you think differently.

Our Study: What are the chances we draft a bust?

What about WR busts?

We decided that a "bust" for us would be pretty easy.  We figured a WR should average a point per season in the NFL, considering that means that he is a "starter".  If you use a first round pick on a guy who can't crack the top 64 on DYAR, on a consistent basis, is definitely not worth the first rounder that was used on him.

How many of the 46 got the bust label?  22 out of the 46 fell under the bust tag.  (In case you were wondering, only 2 rookies this season didn't make the cut, that would be DHB, who by the looks of it sucks, and Michael Crabtree who was killed by his holdout.  Even with the holdout, he barely missed the top 64.)  That is almost 50% (actually 48%) of the WR's taken in the first round didn't even rate as a starter.  That is staggering.  You take a WR in the first, it is a coin flip if he is even a starter.  Wowza.  (If you take out the rookies from '08 and '09, citing the two year rule, it changes from 20 busts in 40 WR's, an even 50%.)

Second of all, yes it takes three seasons for a WR to become a star.  Key word here is star.  Most of the WR's that we don't consider busts, made some sort of impact in their first two seasons.  I am not saying that they are stars in their first two seasons, but they at least rank as starters (top 64) or better in the first two seasons.  There have been some outliers (Tory Holt and Calvin Johnson on the star side and Roddy White and Santana Moss on the bust side) but most WR's fall into the starter category in the first two years.  You gotta see a glimpse in two seasons.

What WR's have been elite since '99?

So, who makes up the elite WR's in this league?  Well here is a quick rundown from '99 until '09: (First rounders in bold, and players with a * next to their name are in our study)

1999: 5 out of top 10 were first rounders, none in our study (not a shock there, they are rookies)
  1. Jimmy Smith
  2. Cris Carter
  3. Randy Moss
  4. Isaac Bruce
  5. Tim Brown
  6. Marvin Harrison
  7. Patrick Jeffers
  8. Marcus Robinson
  9. Michael Westbrook
  10. Keyshawn Johnson
2000: 4 out of 10 were first rounders, with one being in our study
  1. Randy Moss
  2. Isaac Bruce
  3. Terrell Owens
  4. Tory Holt*
  5. Ed McCaffery
  6. Amani Toomer
  7. Rod Smith
  8. Marvin Harrison
  9. Derrick Alexander
  10. Cris Carter
2001: 6 out of ten, including two from our study
  1. Marvin Harrison
  2. Terrell Owens
  3. Derrick Mason
  4. Jerry Rice
  5. Rod Smith
  6. Tory Holt*
  7. Jimmy Smith
  8. David Boston*
  9. Tim Brown
  10. Kevin Johnson
2002: Three out of ten and we were 1 for ten with study
  1. Marvin Harrison
  2. Amani Toomer
  3. Hines Ward
  4. Laverneus Coles
  5. Joe Horn
  6. Plaxico Burress*
  7. Donald Driver
  8. Jerry Porter
  9. Dennis Northcutt
  10. Jerry Rice
2003: 4 out of 10, with two of them being in our study.
  1. Randy Moss
  2. Tory Holt*
  3. Derrick Mason
  4. Chad Johnson
  5. Marvin Harrison
  6. Justin McCareins
  7. Hines Ward
  8. Darell Jackson
  9. Bobby Engram
  10. Santana Moss*
2004: By far the best season for our WR study with 5 out of 10, with 4 being in our study.
  1. Reggie Wayne*
  2. Musin Muhammad
  3. Michael Clayton*
  4. Brandon Stokley
  5. Joe Horn
  6. Javon Walker*
  7. Nate Burelson
  8. Tory Holt*
  9. TJ Houshmanzadeh
  10. Randy Moss
2005: 3 out of 10 with only 2 of those in our study.
  1. Steve Smith
  2. Chad Johnson
  3. Santana Moss*
  4. Donald Driver
  5. Eddie Kennison
  6. Hines Ward
  7. Kennan McCardell
  8. TJ Houshmanzadeh
  9. Larry Fitzgerald*
  10. Rod Smith
2006: 6 out of 10, with 4 being in our study
  1. Marvin Harrison
  2. Reggie Wayne* (Think Peyton was good this season?)
  3. Lee Evans*
  4. Chad Johnson
  5. TJ Houshmanzadeh
  6. Terry Glenn
  7. Terrell Owens
  8. Larry Fitzgerald*
  9. Marques Colston
  10. Roy E. Williams*
2007: 4 out of 10 were first rounders, with three being from the study
  1. Randy Moss
  2. Reggie Wayne*
  3. Terrell Owens
  4. Wes Welker
  5. Marques Colston
  6. Chad Johnson
  7. Greg Jennings
  8. Larry Fitzgerald*
  9. Andre Johnson*
  10. Bobby Engram
2008: 4 out of 10 with all four being in the study.  Interesting that this was the first season 1st rounders captured 1-3
  1. Andre Johnson*
  2. Larry Fitzgerald*
  3. Roddy White*
  4. Vincent Jackson
  5. Steve Smith
  6. Reggie Wayne*
  7. Hines Ward
  8. Antonio Bryant
  9. Anquan Boldin
  10. Chad Johnson
2009: 3 out of 10 with only 2 being in our study
  1. Sidney Rice
  2. Vincent Jackson
  3. Wes Welker
  4. Miles Austin
  5. Randy Moss
  6. Reggie Wayne*
  7. Marques Colston
  8. Steve Smith NYG
  9. Hines Ward
  10. Santonio Holmes*
What do all of these stats mean?

Again, out of 110 "chances" at an elite season, first rounders were 47 for 110.  That is 43%.  Not looking too good for first rounders are elite theory.  That is ALL first round WR's not just the ones that we care about.  What about the ones we care about?  I needed to go deeper. 

Our Study: Elite WR's

To do this, I had to make some changes in the evaluation.  Like I said right above, even the bona fide star WR in the NFL don't always become elite right away.  

To combat this, I am not going to count the rookie WR's from '09 (I would have added in '08, but there were none).  Taking them out takes the total number of WR's for this study from 46 to 40.  I also took out the first two seasons of this study (even though Tory Holt was elite in his sophomore season), I worried that it would skew the numbers too much.  Doing this takes our total seasons from 11 down to 9.

We are looking at 40 WR's over 9 seasons.  That is 90 chances for a WR to log an elite season.  Counting only those seasons, our draft study WR's accounted for 24 elite seasons out of a possible 90, or 27%.  Scarier still, those 24 seasons were made up of only 12 different players.  Yikes.  Only 12 of the 40 players drafted had put up an elite season.  30%.  You have a 30% chance to draft a WR that will have at least ONE season in the top 10.  Those odds suck.  As a team we will be dropping 40 million on a 30% chance?

Conclusion:

This study is not perfect.  WR's more than any other position on the field depend on their team mates doing their jobs.  There is no way for me to factor this in.  That being said, I think this is a pretty in depth look at drafting a WR.

So, with all the holes that we have on this team, why should we risk the number seven pick on what at best looks like a 50-50 shot at becoming a solid starter for this team?  Add in the fact that our QB situation is far from settled, it seems very unlikely that Dez Bryant would be a good pick with the seventh pick.

Unlike the Quarterback article, I wasn't very surprised at what I have found (If you didn't read it, we found out that a QB taken outside of the first round has damn near no chance at becoming a decent NFL starter).  WR's are the high wire act of the NFL draft.  When it goes right, it goes right in a big way.  When it goes wrong, splat.  

Winning in the NFL without an elite WR is possible.  Drafting them is damn near blind luck.  So why take the risk in the first round?




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Thanks bross. I’ll read the rest tomorrow.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Mar 29, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

hahaha…A while ago when I had a really long post I wrote about the same issue and how WRs had high bust rates…its not much of a secret but its always nice to see it on paper.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on Mar 29, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very interesting article that depicts what Browns fans have known for a while now. But what about second to late rounders? What are the odds on those?

by BrownDawg1409 on Mar 29, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

It just seems messed up to me that we can’t account for the WR’s talent (or lack thereof) around them. It would be insanely complex, and probably impossible to account for both defense and QB/OL/Running game but something just feels odd about calling a WR not elite or not starting material or a bust when their QB could be Peyton or David Carr.

The fact that A. Johnson can do what he has done before Schaub/when Schaub is injured is just incredible to me. Likewise with Megatron. And it impresses me a lot less that Colts’ WRs do it. I mean Gonzo has 2 less points than Calvin Johnson…really?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 29, 2010 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Calvin I think gets dinged for last season in which he was basically injured but still playing the entire season.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 29, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right his year by year ranking goes 52 (rookie), 10 and 61 (last season).

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Separate comment for separate idea:

Just looking at the numbers from the first rounders, it appears that WRs bust out at a high rate. But it would also be my guess that WRs bust out at a high rate from any round.

If all we have is a bust%, does it really mean anything? Obviously it has big cap implications, especially when talking about the first 10 picks. Is the difference in salary between the 20th and 33rd picks enough to make it worth it to take a shot at a guy in rd2 but not rd1?

What if 1st round WRs bust out at 70%, but 2nd-7th rounds bust out at 80%, 90%, 95%, 98%, 99%, and 99.5%? Is there a “sweet spot” for risk vs. reward? My guess would be 2nd round.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 29, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I did a little checking, emphasis on little, but for the second round what I found was also in the 50% round.

I may do a little more work on this.

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 29, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah…thats what I noticed when I looked at this a bit at one point. WRs have a fairly high bust rate wherever they go…but why bust high then? there are a lot of good WRs taken in the 2nd too. even though many might not want us to take WRs in the 2nd after last year, that round might be just as smart…amount of players (% wise) who become elite.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on Mar 29, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not just after last year, it’s always been that way.

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Mar 29, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well even at an even bust rate, the first round pick is still inherently more valuable and therefore a bigger risk to lose on a bust.

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by danvail on Mar 29, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You also have to consider how much more money a first rounder makes than a 2nd rounder. To pay a 1st rounder so much money at such a high risk of bust doesn’t mae a whole lot of sense.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 29, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus WRs make a relatively large salary – so it’s worse to miss on a first round WR than say, a safety or a tackle.

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by danvail on Mar 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, hence the idea of a “sweet spot”, maybe where WRs bust out at a slightly higher rate than 1st rounders, but cost much less. Risk in the first is inherently higher, what about risk:reward ratio?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 29, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It´s too bad you adhere to this, because when everyone comes unhinged next year you have no bearing what so ever.

by mooncamping on Mar 29, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Just curious, who was #7 in ’05?

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Mar 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you talking draft selection?

If so, it was Troy Williamson to the Vikes.

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite picks ever for two reasons:

1. My db roommate loved the Vikings (because his dad liked the colors when he was a kid…)
and 2. it made Mel Kiper’s head explode. I can’t remember a pick that came so close to causing a stroke on live television.

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by danvail on Mar 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kiper chastising Colts GM Bill Tobin for taking Marshall faulk and Trev Alberts when Heath Shuler and Trent Dilfer were still on the board.

“Who in the hell is Mel Kiper, anyway? I mean, here’s a guy that criticizes everybody, whoever they take. … And in my knowledge of him, he’s never, ever put on a jock strap. He’s never been a player. He’s never been a coach. He’s never been a scout. He’s never been an administrator. And, all of a sudden, he’s an expert.

“Mel Kiper has no more credentials to do what he’s doing than my neighbor, And my neighbor’s a postman — and he doesn’t even have season tickets to the NFL.”

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Mar 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

^Attribution fail. The quote is Tobin’s on air response to Kiper’s criticism.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Mar 29, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kiper is a nutsack. I don’t listen to anything that plastic Ken Doll says.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Mar 29, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken… that’s a good way to describe him.

by emily522 on Mar 29, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking about the jersey Suck Boy is wearing in the pic. I already found out. Ted Ginn.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Mar 29, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did in fact not try everything…

He didn’t try to catch better.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on Mar 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

yep. thats what I was thinking too. he tried everything except CATCH THE DAMN BALL!

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on Mar 29, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where have we seen that before?

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Mar 29, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work as always.

On the subject of WRs, I hope Robiskie can see the field this season.

by emily522 on Mar 29, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

This.

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Mar 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’ll see a sizable improvement from robiskie, but thats mostly based on my gut feeling. I think after a full year of being an NFL player in the same offensive system will be good for him.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on Mar 29, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

My gut feeling tells me a breakout season with at least 40 catches and at least 600 yards…but this isn’t based on anything but my gut.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on Mar 29, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It feels dumb to call that a “breakout season” but that sounds like about what I’m expecting.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on Mar 29, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

After not seeing the field almost at all last year that would sound great to me.

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Mar 29, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

A 600 yard season from a #2 WR sounds okay by me – especially if we add in a pass-catching TE.

by JustBob on Mar 30, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I looked at that picture and thought, “Who is that?” Then I saw the pic and was like “Is that Ted Ginn?” But the caption about the Browns hating him didn’t make sense.

Then I realized it was Braylon being a smart ass.

by emily522 on Mar 31, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Ginn the Buckeye. Ginn the Dolphin can suck eggs.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on Mar 31, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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