Pride of Detroit Mock Draft
by Latif Masud on Mar 30, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
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Hey guys, Pride of Detroit, SBNation's Detroit Lions blog site is having its annual mock draft, and I'm in charge of picking for the Browns. I have already made the first round selection, which I can't reveal until it is annouced on the site, but I will tell you that the choice is pretty obvious. My concern now is the 2nd round pick.
I have looked through this site, and looked at you roster. The biggest need seems to be in the defense, assuming Scott Fujita will take over for Kamerion Wimbley, is the secondary. Brandon McDoland and Mike Adams don't seem like starters to me, so I would say that a safety or a corner needs to be drafted. What do you guys think of someone like Patrick Robinson or Devin McCourty or a safety like Nate Allen or Morgan Burnett. I also think there is a decent chance Taylor Mays is still on the board when I pick again.
On the offensive end, ESPN has John St. Clair listed as your starter, who I know isn't starter material. You guys recently got Tony Pashos too, who is a solid RT, so does his signing make drafting a tackle out of question? How is the right guard situation. Is Hank Fraley good enough?
Lastly, with Brady Quin gone, you're in need of a franchise quarterback. How do guys feel about Colt McCoy? Tim Tebow?
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Lastly, with Brady Quin gone, you’re in need of a franchise quarterback. How do guys feel about Colt McCoy? Tim Tebow?
you clearly didn’t get bradford in round 1. bummer. McCoy would be cool with me then.
this scares me. who was the obvious choice he referred to in round one? it wasn’t bradford, Berry or Haden, did Suh slip that far?
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by notthatnoise on Mar 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…he pointed out corner or safety…I am just hoping he didn’t think the obvious was Dez Bryant. I am thoroughly unimpressed.
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that would be my guess…maybe he doesn’t want to hint at it so he suggested CBs
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I suggested all problems of the team
and even with the first round pick, I think that position may need some work :)
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There’s a lot of enthusiasm for the idea of getting McCoy in the second if he’s around. Not so much for Tebow. We have glaring needs at CB, S, and QB.
I can’t imagine drafting the right RT is even close to out of the question. We have solid, unspectacular options at RG. We could definitely use that pick on an OG.
We could use impact LBs across the board, but again have solid if unspectacular players and depth there as well. We could use some youth on the DL but it’s not a huge need.
We could use more talent at WR, but if we were to use another 2nd round pick on a receiver there might be a riot. TE is a luxury we won’t address in the second. We could draft a RB, but it would have to be a steal.
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I would take Taylor Mays in the second over few others.
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Taylor Mays in the second would be good. I’m all for McCoy in the second. I don’t think we need to draft a lineman in the second round unless its a guard with a lot of upside. No on Tebow in the second.
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by notthatnoise on Mar 30, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
few more quesitons
You want talent in at Wide Receiver, what about Golden Tate. Hes a first round talent that I think will be there in the 2nd.
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If this FO felt EXTREMELY strongly about him over others, then fine. We just spent two second rounders on WR last year, though. There’s a lot to be said about giving those two a chance to take charge.
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yes, but I believe front office wants to get the best players. they realize this but if tate is there, and they have a first round grade on him (or the highest grade significantly of everyone available) I don’t think they would be afraid to pull the trigger.
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I think there could be three WRs there for our 2nd round pick that are all more talented than either MoMass or Robi.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Damian Williams or Golden Tate are the only ones i like at all in the second and only if there is no suitable CB or Rush OLB or QB available whatsoever.
"Smokescreen."
btw. I just love how you mentioned those guys. I was watching a video where mcshay talks about Dez Bryants draft day. then ESPN showed McShay’s top 4 WRs. No Damian Williams…no Golden tate.
Dez
Benn
Demaryus Thomas
Dezmon Briscoe
Ironically…I have the most questions now about these 4 whereas I feel confident in what I am getting with tate.
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Benn is underrated.
The fact that he did anything with Juice Williams as his QB is amazing.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 31, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this 100%
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by notthatnoise on Mar 31, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF Briscoe?
Now that Todd McShay has dez at #1 I don’t think I would draft him.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 31, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…mcshay truly is the village idiot of draft analysts.
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Do you have a link?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 1, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Hughes, Devin McCourty, Kareem Jackson, Tim Tebow. All are good options.
i they are all gone take Damian Williams or Tyson Alualu
"Smokescreen."
Alualu in the 2nd!?
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If you want a safe pick.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 31, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the the feedback so far
Am I correct to say that people on this site are 50/50 on drafting vs not drafting Tebow. You guys do use the wildcat pretty frequently, so he would be able to impact your offense from day one, and has the potential to develop into a starting quarterback in a few years
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I think except for a couple outliers, most people here (especially the regulars) are not fond of tebow, especially in the 2nd. yes we use the wildcat, but should we draft tebow high because of that? Josh cribbs is one of the better wildcat players. He breaks tackles and runs like a power back, has decent speed, can catch the ball, and is a former QB. I don’t see a need for more help in the wildcat. we already have versatility at running back, and an excellent player to run the wildcat.
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however, if we DID draft tebow, Josh Cribbs could become a Percy harvin-like slot receiver who could motion into the backfield and do some nice things like what harvin did. However you could do the same thing with Seneca wallace too.
"Smokescreen."
exactly. we have wallace to do that. plus cribbs can do everything (motionwise) that harvin did AND throw the ball. I don’t think we should be drafting anyone in the first 3 rounds and using the wildcat as a reason we drafted them (or a significant reason). We should be drafting tebow primarily for his passing skills. for that, I don’t think he should be had in the 2nd (and IMO, not even the first half of the third round).
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I am a huge Tebow supporter, but I can’t find a reason for him in the second, we have too many needs elsewhere, especially S/CB. Tebow I think has great value to us in the third round, since we have 3 picks, and it would make more financial sense.
by OSUMoneyball on Mar 30, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it would be a steal in the third, but he just won’t get there. Moreover, if you think he is your franchise quarterback you should be grateful that he fell all the way to #38.
"Smokescreen."
he’s someone’s franchise quarterback at earliest in 3 years, and that would be absolute best case scenario.
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by notthatnoise on Mar 31, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
“a year or two” not five.
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by notthatnoise on Mar 31, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I just though of an analogy for Tebow, and a lot of us would definitely understand this situation. Tebow is like a snow blower. If the Browns go after him in the second round, it is like buying a snow blower in the middle of January, where you need to use it right away, and you probably paid a premium price. But if the Browns take him in the third, it is like buying a snow blower at the end of March. You have some time before you need to use it, and you probably got it during some spring sale. Plus if it is broken, you can afford to have it fixed.
Don’t know if that made sense, but it did to me.
by OSUMoneyball on Mar 30, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
or getting tebow could be like getting the snowblower I used to have…it needed a tuneup of its mechanics every year….
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well,
running the wildcat isn’t the main reason I’m suggesting Tebow. I think its just an added bonus. The thing is the Browns don’t really have a franchise player. Nationally, the best player known from the Browns is Josh Cribbs, and most regular NFL fans don’t know anyone other than that (at least not in a positive manner). Tebow would immediately bring attention to the team, help sell tickets. He would be able to come in contribute immediately in the wildcat, and I think he has the measurable needed to be an NFL quarterback, just not this season or next season.
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yeah…lets draft a guy because we want national attention. I highly doubt this is the way the front office is thinking…especially in the 2nd round. they just want to build a team.
I am not sold on his ability to be an NFL QB. I think he could be but there is definitely significant risk. and again, you mention the wildcat. This shouldn’t have ANY factor on the browns drafting him. we have a running QB AND a wildcat QB…what else do we need…plus it is questionable if Tebow can do what he did in college. he can’t run over NFL D-Backs and can’t outrun all linebackers anymore.
also, the browns definitely do not need to sell tickets. I know the team is crap, but we have one of the best fan bases IN THE COUNTRY. you know the last time we had a blackout? 1995. it was the last game before the browns left…I will give the browns a free pass there. Before that, I cannot find a record of a cleveland blackout since the blackout rule was made. even when the team is dreadful, people come to watch. because they love the orange and brown. browns fans are diehard fans. we have fans who tailgate by the thousands in december for a 2 win team. THAT is loyalty. you cannot bottle the kind of loyalty that the browns fans have to their team. there is not a player who can alone give that kind of loyalty in any city. I don’t see the browns needing to sell tickets. the tickets SELL THEMSELVES.
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by bross09 on Mar 31, 2010 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was not aware of that
I knew you guys have a great fan base, I had no idea its that good. It was dumb of me to assume that they would have trouble selling tickets just because the browns are a losing football team in a relatively small city.
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its okay. many people don’t realize the loyalty of the fanbase. last year was a little tough and we had a couple blackout scares, however we still have not had a blackout so personally I am not worried about their ability to sell tickets.
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There is also a large national following. While the Browns aren’t the Steelers, Cowboys or Raiders in terms of the number of followers outside of their locale, they are probably just behind them (there are Browns Backers clubs everywhere — here in LA there are a ton of them and a lot of the people attending do not have any real history in Cleveland other than a relative). That is pretty amazing, given that the other teams I mentioned have all been to numerous Super Bowls, while the Browns have either sucked or been non-existent for the better part of the last two decades.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Mar 31, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
and the browns backers as a whole organization is the biggest of its kind in the world too. Its amazing the kind of national and international support such a bad team can have.
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thats really interesting
I guess I never lived in an area to see browns fans. I’ve lived in cowboy land, Lions land, and now in Bills territory
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lol. I have lived in browns territory all my live…Now I actually live in bills territory too.
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lol. I go to school in buffalo. Is TO Toronto?
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Terrell Owens dude.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 31, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and Toronto
I dunno if u remember all the TO in TO ads.
(Terrel Owens in Toronto)
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TOtally just ruined my joke.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 31, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t remember those commercials. I didn’t know TO lived over there…I never really thought toronto was Bills Country…does explain why they play a game there every year.
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well,
The bills are the closest NFL team to Toronto so the Canadian channels actually show Bills games, and whenever they stop talking about the leafs (which seldomly happens), they either talk about the raptors or the bills
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by Latif Masud on Mar 31, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe.
Thomas.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
And the only thing the Browns need to do to sell tickets is to be a respectable team.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
We almost had a few blackouts, didn’t we?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Quite a few. WMMS and WOIO saved Clevelland from a few of em.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 31, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, we came close, after watching the fourth front office iteration in 11 years start off historically poorly. Even then, though, nothing doing.
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I was being a little facetious.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
facetious
The only word in the English vocabulary that contains all the vowels in alphabetical order.
This is what separates us from Cleveland.com. God bless you Rufio.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 31, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
My mom uses that world all the time. Instead of saying “sarcastic” she goes, “I was just being facetious.”
She’s probably using it wrong then.
Facetious means to be sarcastic but to not intentionally offend. Your mom probably intends to offend.
Just saying.
Oh, also. Next time she says it, throw my fact at her, you’ll blow her mind.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 31, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
NOT Y!
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 31, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a vowel
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Mar 31, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to come up with something funny about “sometimes y”.
I could not.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I pondered this myself.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 1, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
good point. but unfortunately, by writing his name in an unorthodox way, you’ve incurred his wrath and will be pancaked.
I love the image of him just showing up out of nowhere and leveling someone, then walking away without explanation.
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same
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Mar 31, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
The Browns should do some sort of commercial with Joe Thomas and Alex Mack just running around the streets of Cleveland pancaking people.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Then Fraley comes out of nowhere to pancake a woman and is just horribly denied.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And somewhere in the background, a man in a foil hat is admiring his ass.
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by danvail on Apr 1, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Steinbach might get jealous.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
IHOP commercial?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Tebow would immediately bring attention to the team, help sell tickets.
you know what else helps sell tickets?
winning football games.
I’d rather find guys that can help us do that than bring a national magazine reporter into town every other week to do a cover story on our seldom-used halfback, 3rd string QB.
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In regards to the Wildcat, I don’t think Tebow will help the Browns in that case. Reason being Cribbs already runs it, and runs it well, and I don’t think the Browns want to take plays away from their best offensive skill player. Also putting Tebow in the Wildcat would mean that more snaps in practice would be taken away from Delhomme/Wallace, both who need to learn new personel.
If the Browns draft Tebow, it will not be with intentions of putting him in the Wildcat, it will be because Holmgrem/Heckert/Mangini think he is capable of being developed into a pro-style QB.
by OSUMoneyball on Mar 31, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Tebow isn’t running the wildcat for us.
Josh Cribbs.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 30, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
but I will tell you that the choice is pretty obvious.
Please let it not be Haden.
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That would be cool. I’m just sick of hearing Haden’s name. He’s not worth #7.
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by Brownie's Year on Mar 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he develops into one of the five best players in this draft.
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I see him as good but not great. His well rounded play against the run and on the blitz is what makes him just a little better than the next few guys at the position. If berry can be had I feel like you are just as good getting a guy like Kareem Jackson in the second.
"Smokescreen."
Kareem Jackson is already as good as he’s going to get. Haden is better, and has only played the position three years.
Berry is the better player right now, but I think we’ll be kicking ourselves in five years were we to pass on Haden in favor of Berry.
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I disagree. He could be good, but I don’t think he is for sure going to be the best AT HIS POSITION in the draft. he is not miles ahead of guys like McCourty and Wilson.
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Allright, I got some potential players
Here is how my draft board is looking going into round 2:
1) Taylor Mays
2) Jared Odrick
3) Jerry Hughes
4) Colt McCoy
Outside shots:
Carlos Dunlap, Tim Tebow
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at that point…I would say Odrick or McCoy. I look at it as, the browns have a lot of needs and get the best guys available. I think odrick if available is a great value. he might not fill a huge position of need, but you have to pounce on a guy who is a steal like that. Colt is also a good buy too.
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I’d prefer McCoy over Mays for the 1st and 2nd options.
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This.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I think mays might be at a slightly bigger need, but I think odrick might be the better prospect. mays has much more physical tools but I am not sure if he can be a pure Safety. I see him fitting a 4-3 best. because in a 4-3, he can play safety in the box, or he can play SLB. I actually think he can be better as an SLB and if he puts on 10 pounds. He is dreadful in coverage, but would be solid if he only has to cover RBs and TEs.
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In the Colt’s system he would be awesome.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah dunlap is probably a very slim chance in reality. Mangini Doesn’t take poor character guys.
I’d be absolutely astonished if Odrick falls to the second and Hughes to the third. The latest Hughes goes in the mid second. good targets though. (i’m a tebow over McCoy guy though)
Look at some CBs in the second as well. If McCourty, or Kareem Jackson or Kyle wilson fall to you, snap them up. Wilson > Jackson > McCourty
"Smokescreen."
The top 3 are all great values. Mays is a high potential guy but the other two are safe picks.
McCoy and Tebow have HUGE bust potential but have position valu.e
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and Mays doesn’t have a large bust potential? I would say he is the most likely to bust IMO…close would be tebow though. McCoy might bust just b/c it is hard to predict QB at times, but Tebow and Mays are miles ahead of him in bust potential IMO.
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Mays has high bust potential in the first but in the second I don’t think his bust potential is as high.
McCoy has questions about arm strenght, product of system, being a running QB, height, bulk and durability
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not see the questions about durability for McCoy, but I understand the others. I would say McCoy might be risky there. I guess I see the point that in the 2nd, mays wouldn’t have as much bust potential (because he isn’t a first round pick). I just don’t see him as being a guy who can play coverage that often as a safety. I see either 2 destinations for him unless he vastly improves his coverage skills.
a) be the in-the-box safety that roy williams was later in his career.
-this is nice, but I think the browns need a safety who can cover. rob ryan likes versatility and you aren’t as versatile when one of your safeties is constantly in the box. plus elam isn’t spectacular in coverage, and might be a little better against the run (but is still solid in coverage).
b) be a 4-3 OLB.
-He would have to bulk up a lot to be a LB in a 3-4. I just don’t think he coudl do it. He doesn’t have the tackling ability to be an ILB and I don’t believe he could be a pass rushing OLB or if he could, it would take at least 2-3 years just for him to be at all effective at the position.
mays could be a good value there, but i just don’t see him fitting the browns scheme at all.
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We got a guy who can play an undersized linebacker or mostly in the box safety. Kaluka Maiava is the kind of versatile guy Mangini and Rob Ryan could see in a hybrid role like that. I don’t think Taylor Mays really fits their defensive philosophy.
"Smokescreen."
The “in the box” safety is something no one in the NFL wants anymore.
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I put bulk and durability together because Colt is pretty small and could get beat up a lot.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
but has he proven not to be durable?
I understand that, but i don’t think you can automatically label him as not durable just because of his size. I believe it makes him more prone to not being durable but thats it.
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I just said questions though.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree mostly about Mays.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
bad news
Mays got picked 12th in the draft :(
That leaves me with either Hughes or McCoy as the pick.
How good are your pass rushers?
I see you guys have David Bowens and Matt Roth as starters, neither of whom seem like starters
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WTF the Dolphins? Parcells wouldn’t do that.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 3, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Roth is starter calibre. Someone can tell you his stats in limited games but I don’t have them now.
Bowens had a good year at ILB last year but it is doubtful he’ll hold up much longer.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 3, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Iupata still on the board? If he falls to us in the second, that has to be the pick.
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Iupati. (Not trying to sound like a jerk)
by skipkirk on Apr 3, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see know way of him falling that far.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 3, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
well
Not too may people in POD liked Mays, which made me think he could possibly be there in early 2nd round
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Our starters are projected to be Chris Gocong and Matt Roth, Who are physical analogs for Rosevelt Colvin and Willie McGinest respectively.
An undersized speed rusher like Hughes doesn’t really fit what Mangini usually wants in his OLBs. If he is there it’d be a good pick but take a look at Damian Williams – WR from USC first. Tyson Alualu would also be a nice pick.
I’m a Tebow fanboy soooooooooooooooooooo…………………………
"Smokescreen."
Pick Announced
Like I said, pretty obvious pick, although it probably won;t happen now that Sheldon Brown is on the team
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I don’t think that’s “pretty obvious”.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
well
thats what most mocks have, unless Berry falls, so it really was one or the other
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