RT Tony Pashos to Visit the Cleveland Browns, Brodney Pool to St. Louis?
by Chris Pokorny on Mar 6, 2010 9:33 PM EST
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Two more rumors related to the Cleveland Browns were just floated around. First, let's start with former Browns safety Brodney Pool. Pool was not one of the players to receive a tender from the Browns before Friday, so he became a free agent. According to Pro Football Talk, Pool might be scheduled to meet with the St. Louis Rams on Monday.
I didn't mind Pool as a player, but he never really reached the level of being an above average safety. With his history of concussions, I'm more than willing to address the safety position in the draft. The free agent pool has thinned out, with Antrel Rolle signing with the Giants and Kerry Rhodes being dealt to the Arizona Cardinals.
The other news is that RT Tony Pashos is on his way to visit with the Cleveland Browns, according to the National Football Post:
Veteran offensive tackle Tony Pashos is on his way to Cleveland to visit the Browns, a league source with knowledge of the situation confirmed tonight. Pashos completed a visit with the Washington Redskins, but no deal was completed and he's moving on to visit the Browns.
It's sort of surprising that we are getting the opportunity to meet with Pashos, because a few hours earlier there were reports that he had a done deal with the Redskins. Pashos, 29 years old, has started in 54 of his 69 career games. He played for the San Francisco 49ers last year but his season ended early after he broke his left shoulder blade.
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I would like Pashos now that we have 0 Depth on the OL.
I would also like Pool because of zero depth in the secondary.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions
I liked Pool also, but I agree with gahnki, we don’t want to see the guy die on the field. He’ll probably not even know his own name when he gets another concusion. Shady’s also right, our secondary depth is getting close to “0”. I sure hope we get the holes filled with a couple FA’s & the Draft. So, it’s starting to look like the DB & OL getting the higher picks in this coming draft.
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I mean, we have two starters (if we keep Elam), and two nickel backs. Then an unproven guy in Coye.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
We only have 2 servicable starters. That’s the problem, we need at least one great starter. We need to upgrade the DB’s 1st, the look at the OL.
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I think Wright can be great
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
right now Eric Wright is a pretty good #2 corner. We could use Eric Berry next year (yeah deep cover 1 guy) and a good man to man corner, those two things could make rob ryan a whole lot more aggressive on defense and change the way we play most teams.
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there are rumors about donte whitner not being kept in buffalo would anyone be interested in bringing him to cleveland? i know he is a local guy but he is also a former first rounder
I’d be very interested. The Bills need a nose tackle for their new 3-4 scheme. Whitner + Pick(s) for Shaun Rodgers could work out well for everyone.
To expand upon my post, it would fill the Browns need for a safety and add picks to this year’s draft. There are limited options at the nose position and the Bills may be induced to overpay.
what about just offering draft picks for whitner? what round pick would you offer? if we acquired whitner would the browns still look at berry in the draft? and if you trade rogers do you look at a d lineman in the draft to take his place?
kerry rhodes sets the market. Whitner hasn’t been as effective as Rhodes and rhodes was traded for a 4th and a 2011 7th. If the bills want to trade him the price is probably a 5th and next years 6 (conditional on stats or somthing maybe)
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I would give one of our fifth rd picks for whitner and I believe we have two sixth rd picks as well for whitner and then look at berry or haden in the first rd and a linebacker or runningback in the second
by scc2o4 on Mar 7, 2010 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ok i love the idea of bringing in donte whitner, as long as it only costs a 4th round pick or lower. a 5th and 2011 sixth (conditional) would be a nice trade. Dude is a downhill run defender and if paired with a dynamic free safety (read: Eric Berry) whitner could add about 10 lbs this offeseason and be at his best. Plus hes only 24. Go get him.
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Not saying it’s a problem but would you prefer to do with Elam if we were to get Whitner and Berry? Trade? Back-up role?
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
Why not keep him we need 2 safeties
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind keeping him along with mike adams in a backup role. Like heckert said you can never have to many dbs. I also wouldn’t mind taking a look at the rams safety Atogwe, Oshiomogho if he is at the right price if we can’t get whitner
by scc2o4 on Mar 7, 2010 6:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Elam is a borderline NFL starter quality player. The kind of guy who adds great depth to your roster and can contribute in different nickel and dime schemes and such but really is out of place starting. I wouldn’t mind keeping him and using him on special teams and other situations or to spell our starters. Brandon McDonald is the guy who needs shown the door.
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Elam is good enough to start but shouldn’t isn’t someone who will win you games or you build around. McDonald is fine as a nickel or dime guy.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
What tender did Atogwe get?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think he got the lowest tender. I don’t think signing him would even cost us a draft pick. And he was their franchise player last year.
by scc2o4 on Mar 7, 2010 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Correct.
The Rams have the chance to match his contract, but would receive nothing if they decided to pass.
In other words, add in a poison pill and you can have him free and easy.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Is he a free agent you would throw a lot of money at? I sure would (not Rolle money but I would still give him a large contract.)
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather bring Donte Witner here in trade (no other teams competing on bids) but Atogwe is a nice player.
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I would be very happy to have Atogwe. he is a 28 YO that makes plays all over the field.
If he played on a good team he would get much more recognition.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
What kind of money would you pay him though? Top 5 Safety money?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Top3 or 2?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 8, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
I would be cool with 5 years 25-30 million.
Locks him up until he is 32-33 and we get a safety that makes plays all over the field.
This being said, I haven’t heard a peep about Atogwe coming to Cleveland.
Atogwe is better than Rolle, just older.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 8, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting idea there.
Wouldn’t hate that.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
He is a classy guy
But I think he is a backup nothing more. In ‘09 training camp he was beaten out from his job by 2nd round selection rookie Eben Britton at my Jaguars.
San Fransisco didn’t want to resign him either …
But if he ends up in Cleveland I’m glad he got a shot. As I said he is a great person; good to have in the locker room.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 7, 2010 4:10 AM EST up reply actions
pashos is ryan tucker and Hank Fraley’s replacement i think. Veteran depth. I think the browns will add at least 2 offensive linemen in the draft this year, probably in the third and fourth rounds.
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I’m down with getting two in the draft.
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by Brownie's Year on Mar 7, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Pool is a free agent.
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by Chris Pokorny on Mar 7, 2010 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am on my phone so I don’t have a link but Schefter is reporting that Pashos is a done deal. 3 years for 10 million.
I really like the signing. Won’t be surprised to see St Clair cut soon.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 3:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we got somebody at least. Huzzah.
In all seriousness I’m glad the Browns brass has set its sights on shoring up the offensive line.
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I think so but my opinion of St. Clair is pretty low.
Here is a quick scouting report I found:
Assets
Huge, physical blocker with a long wingspan. Aggressive, intense player who also makes good decisions. Gets a good pop and drive when run blocking. Plays with good leverage.
Flaws
Not a super athlete. Not quick out of his stance. Has slow feet, and footwork and technique needs refining.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Just read that we acquired QB Tyler Palko?
Here near the bottom.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
I did some looking and I can’t find anything where we acquired him. Maybe it is a Yahoo mistake.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that the Cheifs got him on the 3rd.
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by Brownie's Year on Mar 7, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Just curious, does anyone know the exact difference between a 3-technique Dt and a 5-technique? And why is one better for a 3-4 then the other?
Just think of the holes on the line (starting with the center/guard hole) as 1-3-5.
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by Brownie's Year on Mar 7, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
generally the 3-4 defense has one nose tackle (a 0 technique) who plays heads up on the center and two Defensive ends who play in the so-called 5 technique most often line up heads up on the offensive tackle or just shaded inside of him in the base 3-4 (two gap)
However the lineups vary based on numerous factors and over / under fronts and things like that. Rex and Rob Ryan often like to use the “Bear” front where you bring your DEs in to play 3-technique (inside number exactly aligned with the guards outside number)
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If you want some further info, Rufio did an awesome write up before the season.
by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 7, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
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