Shaun Rogers Arrested for Having Gun
"19 Action News has learn Cleveland Browns Defensive lineman Shaun Rogers has been arrested at Hopkins airport with a gun.
It happened as the NFL'er was about to board a flight. The gun was discovered in a bag. Apparently, Rogers told officers he forgot the gun was in there."
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Reported via the Plain Dealer too, and as PFT states, it’d start stretching into poor legal/slander usage if it were a joke. I posted this under the belief that the report is sadly valid.
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The joke’s not funny anymore! >=[
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt that
lead story on our site also
CB85......Collaros for Heisman
by TennBengalfan on Apr 1, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yep. we’re just joining the club. the ravens had both lewis boys (one for drug smuggling one for murder), no need to explain the bengals, and the steelers are a bunch of misogynystic rapists.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Having a gun is a legal right, if he had a permit, it was legally allowed to be concealed.
It could have just been a mistake it was brought into the airport.
We are not, nor will we ever be part of the club Bross.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was making a joke SB…I was more commenting on how there have been huge legal troubles with players on the other teams in the AFC North. Personally, I agree with you. However I was just making a joke.
We probably joined the club last year when BE suckerpunched some dude at a club and Stallworth killed a guy. We are a temporary member of the club but we have to have a felony case or two to be a permanent member.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
right. fans of every team turn a blind eye towards their own players’ mistakes or make excuses for them.
the only difference is that the Bengals have openly become a magnet for 2nd-chance guys. the Browns aren’t above having a few bad apples any more than any other team.
You are reading my signature.
Who in the hell carries around a loaded pistol in a bag? That dangerous and stupid.
by Oscar_the_Dog on Apr 1, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
…A lot of people.
It’s called legal concealment. Protection dude. We have a right to bear arms, it’s not really stupid but is potentially dangerous.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Stallworth
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 1, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Question for lawyers or people familiar with Ohio gun law: If the gun were properly registered, what kind of punishment should we expect? What about if the gun were not registered?
If it was registered, it was just an oopsey forgetting about it but could hols some serious terrorist scares. If it was unregistered, I expect bad things…
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea if it was unregistered the organization might wanna begin considering the drafting of Jared Odrick
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 1, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. I don’t even think it would be a misdemeanor. I know it is prohibited but I cannot find an actual crime on the books in ohio for it…or a sentence for it.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
It would be a FEDERAL offense, because it is at an aiport.
He was arrested for a federal offense — attempting to board an airport with a gun. Ohio law is not what you should be looking at.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 1, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Specifically, 49 U.S.C.* 46505. Carrying a weapon or explosive on an aircraft
(a) Definition.— In this section, "loaded firearm" means a starter gun or a weapon designed or converted to expel a projectile through an explosive, that has a cartridge, a detonator, or powder in the chamber, magazine, cylinder, or clip.
(b) General Criminal Penalty.— An individual shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both, if the individual—
(1) when on, or attempting to get on, an aircraft in, or intended for operation in, air transportation or intrastate air transportation, has on or about the individual or the property of the individual a concealed dangerous weapon that is or would be accessible to the individual in flight;
(2) has placed, attempted to place, or attempted to have placed a loaded firearm on that aircraft in property not accessible to passengers in flight; or
(3) has on or about the individual, or has placed, attempted to place, or attempted to have placed on that aircraft, an explosive or incendiary device.
*United States Code, not Univ of S. California
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 1, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A prosecutor filed the fourth-degree felony charge……………………Rogers was booked by police on a third-degree felony, a local practice allowing officers to hold him for investigation, but prosecutors decide what charge gets filed in court. A third-degree felony carries a possible five-year prison term, a fourth-degree felony up to 18 months.
This means he’ll spend 24 days in jail.
Everything seems less funny to me since I quit drinking.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 3, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe a fine and probation or something to that extent?
by Western Reserve on Apr 4, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Or teaching basketball at the YMCA for community service hours.
Everything seems less funny to me since I quit drinking.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 4, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
What is the definition of registered we are going by here? My understanding is that in Ohio you don’t have to register a hand gun just to own one (i.e. I can buy your hand gun from you, not tell anyone and it’s perfectly legal). If you want to do the concealed carry thing then I guess you have to ‘register’ but I don’t even know if that is specific to a certain gun. I think that is more like registering yourself.
Just looking for clarification like you guys.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 1, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You need a registered permit to carry and conceal
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a license that allows a person to carry a concealed firearm. The gun itself has nothing to do with it. “Registering” a gun is not something Ohio, or just about any other American government does. Mostly just a Law & Order myth, as I think NYC does something like that.
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
I’ve heard plenty of times that someone was arrested carrying an unregistered gun.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
I know CA and NY both require registration of firearms. A few other states here and there might, but most do not.
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
ok, that may explain it.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 2, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly. they always talk about it on Law and Order like you say, but NY requires it. so does CA, and I think Illinois does (although I am not up to date on their gun laws but they may still be almost completely illegal anyways…like DC was)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
When I bought my gun it was registered to me. I live in PA and I’m not absolutely sure it’s an across the nation thing, but I think it is.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
They do a background check, but the gun itself is not registered to you. At least not in Ohio. I just bought a Sig last year.
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
This one is for PA, at least currently guns are not registered to an owner.
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
I stand corrected.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Btw, I totally bookmarked that link, thanks for it.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I own a gun, and I damn sure know where it is at all times. Also if I am going to an airport or a government building I leave it at home.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
Also if I am going to an airport or a government building I leave it at home.
This is “punch in the face” obvious. I don’t see how Big Baby misses this.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 1, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t find this offense particularly troubling, but others may. It was a stupid decision or oversight on his part.
I find it stupid, but not necessarily showing bad character.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
Agree with this. Idiocy sure, but not necessarily a terminal case.
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Apr 1, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
This alone isn’t troubling, but like Elam and Wright, he has a sexual assault accusation on his resume. All three are on a very short leash so far as I’m concerned.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I think this probably deserves a bit more time to play out.
by Western Reserve on Apr 1, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Right.
Wasn’t it Barry Switzer who did this a long while back?
Stupid yes, but I don’t think he should be cut.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 1, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it was, when he was coaching the Cowboys.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 1, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed — hardly a cuttable offense, especially because he almost certainly was not trying to hijack the plane or anything. It was a dumb, dumb mistake, but it was just that, a mistake (and not one that hurt anyone or really had the potential to hurt anyone).
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 1, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oversight?
An oversight is forgetting to pack shampoo.
If you have a loaded gun on your person or baggage, you better damn well know that at all times.
You are reading my signature.
Right. If some trouble had gone down before he arrived at the airport, I bet he wouldn’t have forgot he had it.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 2, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I expect that when Rogers releases a statement it will be that he needed protection, but was unable to book a flight with Joe Thomas.
by JustBob on Apr 1, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not excusing the stupidity, but I can definitely see where an athlete could forget this if he makes a habit of always carrying it. And if I were a professional athlete, I would definitely carry a gun.
Or made them fast enough to outrun a bullet.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Sean Taylor wasn’t fast enough to outrun a bullet.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Wow.
You really need to work on that improv thing.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
" If I was a professional athlete I would be carry a gun" Then your in the wrong part of town, doing shit you shouldn’t be doing. Guns and carrying guns lead to know good. Fine have them in your home, I have no issue. Carrying loaded guns in my carry on, no freaking good.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
Fine have them in your home, I have no issue.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 6, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Collier was in his car.
I would be willing to be that most professional athletes don’t walk around with security. Also I would be willing to bet that many athletes outside of their size would be unrecognizable by the general public. I’ve seen many people walking around my city (Louisville, KY) who have the build of a professional athlete. It’s stupid to tell a professional athlete that they have to live a cloistered life.
From what I’ve read Rogers was driving back and forth trying to sell a house. If by chance someone did recognize him, he would be a fairly easy target.
Honestly I’m not even trying to defend him having a gun as i’m not a big fan of guns myself. However it’s legal to own a gun and for some a gun can offer protection and it’s stupid to tell athletes that they shouldn’t carry one and to label them as being in the “wrong areas” if they feel they need one.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
This statement is naive and foolish.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 4, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If this is true? I smell a trade! Either way theres 2 sides to what Rogers did. Good and bad! But examples have to be set. I do also understand he needs gun fr protection but how can you forget about that??
Never underestimate the crazy of Al Davis?
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
Remember when we actually use to debated who was better between Shaun Rogers and Haloti Ngata? Those were good times…
I don’t understand how this makes him a worse football player…
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
Naw, it doesn’t make him a worse football player. It just reinforces the idea that the guy isn’t bright enough to remember that he’s got a loaded, concealed, undeclared weapon in his bag that is not locked in a protective case. Add that to the fact that he freelances on D and doesn’t care about playing to his potential and you have a bad team player.
Trade him or cut him. The D played better without him anyway.
The Drive, the Fumble, the Shot, the Meltdown...still hopefull.
What?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly. I guess Ray Lewis is not as good as I thought . . .
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 1, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Stallworth will suck for ’em then
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Like before Lewis did the shank shank?
Yep, good times…
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Lewis might have taught Ngata how to stabby stab. But they do say never bring a knife to a gun fight… unless the knife is spring loaded.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I know right? Where have you been? Wow…
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 1, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha… You’re obviously entitled to your opinion.
I honestly assumed that Ngata>Rogers was the general consensus around the league and wasn’t trying to stir things up. Most NFL fans that I talk to think that Ngata is the best defensive lineman in the league, and most of them are Redskins fans.
Most NFL fans are Redskins fans? That’s news to me.
But no hard feelings I suppose.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 2, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Most NFL fans that I talk to think that Ngata is the best defensive lineman in the league, and most of them are Redskins fans.
Considering the Redskins track record of brilliant free agent signings, I would zig when they say zag.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 2, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s debatable. I don’t claim to be an expert but have talked to people and read articles that agree.
Here’s an interesting video from Inside the NFL on Showtime where they debate Ngata versus Haynesworth.
It’s obviously not anything conclusive but is interesting.
Remember when we actually use to debated who was better between Shaun Rogers and Haloti Ngata?
No.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 1, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dumb, just plain dumb. I don’t want to hear protection bullshit arguement. Your getting on a freaking plane. Grow up.
by Grockcubs on Apr 2, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You’re on a public forum cusing.
Grow up.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 2, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
New slang for (ex)cusing?
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Apr 2, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is no excuse, If you don’t realize your carrying a loaded weapon on your carry on, you have some issues. The whole gun thing with athletes is insane. Streets are littered with kids who don’t understand the consequence of handguns. Obviously either does Shaun Rogers.
He has no defense, just like Arenas. Rogers should get suspended for about 4 games, which is just.
Go ahead, defend him.
Yay for learning!
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 4, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we do it for the children.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 6, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rogers Gun was legal and registered. He had a conseal and carry permit. if it was a legitimate mistake he didn’t commit a crime. He should probably be more careful. Arenas had 4 firearms in the teams’ locker room and pulled one on a teammate.
"Smokescreen."
*didn’t knowingly commit a crime.
He was only charged by the state system, as he was stopped entering the airport, rather than on a plane. I think he will get off pretty easy, because they could have charged him with a federal offense, which would carry much more severe penalties.
"Smokescreen."
He should probably not bemore carefulsuch an idiot!
Fixed
I have plenty of firearms around the house, but I also know where they are at all times and I definitely would double check my bag before getting on an airplane!
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
It was probably a mistake, but it was a huge mistake.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Agree, I do believe him that he just completely forgot. However what a huge mental mistake. I’m not in his shoes, so maybe he had a million other things going on, or got rushed, something, but man…forget you have a gun in your handbag?
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
except his argument is that he forgot about it, not that he needed it for protection, so…
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 6, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they told Mr. Rogers “no”, when he asked them “won´t you be my neighbor?”.
by mooncamping on Apr 2, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Mr. Rodgers’ Neighborhood reference.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 2, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ve been hilarious lately
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 2, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well maybe I was a little off. I was just trying to wrap my mind around the buffoonery apparent here. How can I forget that I have a loaded gun in my bag? Does he have them stashed away all over the place? Is Cleveland a dangerous place?
Depends on the area.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 5, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
agree, I got off one exit somewhere up there once when I was lost and I wished that I had a handgun
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Most likely on the East side.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 6, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think so, pretty sure there was a drug deal going on with the store clerk when I walked in and some cracked out girl outside asked to use my wife’s cell phone. Needless to say, we left quickly and just drove until I found some form of interstate.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Well lets see how this effects the Browns’ draft this year… Figures we can’t go 1 year without having to amend our draft board due to staph or jail… (jail streak being new with Stallworth and now Rogers)
I’d figure so much considering its a Federal felony.
Also with Plaxico’s sentence for a weapons offense might sway the commissioner to continue with steep punishments as the trend for weapons crimes among professional athletes is continuing to rise.
If I remember correctly, Plax didn’t have the proper paperwork for the gun.
Plus he shot himself. I doubt he will do any jail time.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 5, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaun Rogers crime is much less severe than Plaxico. Plaxico actually discharged a firearm in a public place. Also the gun was unregistered. New York gun laws are much more strict than Ohio.
Also they have only charged Rogers with a crime in the state system, and have not ruled it a federal offense, which would likely carry a much greater penalty. I think he will get off easy compared to Plax.
"Smokescreen."
Shaun Rogers is an all century Nose Guard. He is a veritable freak. Normally I look for guys like Chris Zorich. So to me he is not naturally proportioned for that position. But man is he awesome!
He is signed through 2013. That means he could be dominant for us for four more years.
I know it takes a while to be truly identifiable with a team, and I think Shaun Rogers isn´t quite there, yet.
I think he´s an All-Decade player. You need to keep him in the Brown jersey!
Like I said, if he doesn´t have a world beater of a clever finality excuse, he needs to plead stupidity. Maybe he was inabreviated or pulled an all-nighter, but we need a very good reason for the lapse in judgement.
Saying, sometimes I drive to Michigan, and it´s not unusual, especially for a famous person, to have a firearm stowed away on the Highway, going in and out of cities, makes a lot of sense. But people are thinking, quite simply: How can you forget you have a loaded hand gun with a bullet in the chamber, and amble on up to airport security in this day and age without checking yourself for unallowable carry-on items?
i think moon was inabreviated, give him a break.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 6, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean he broke his leg. Is he still on pain-killers?
Did he receive a death threat?
Did he actually think the laws are such, that he could challenge the decision against carrying a gun onto a plane?
Did he have an affair with a dubious person, who planted the gun?
Did his Mom pack his bag, thinking he would drive instead of fly?
You know, what the heck?
by mooncamping on Apr 6, 2010 4:50 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Keep ’em coming.
I like the ‘mom packing the bag’ one though. Plausible. Just gotta get his mother on the act now.
Maybe he was having a handyman moment???
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
by Kimble_79 on Apr 6, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for the awesomeness of In Living Color.
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Apr 6, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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