DBN Big Board: Slots 21-25
by rufio on Apr 13, 2010 3:47 AM EDT
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PrintThe votes are in, and after 135 votes our DBN Big Board slots 21-25 are as follows:
21. Colt McCoy--208 total points
22. Trent Williams--182 total points
23. Dan Williams--162 total points
24. Golden Tate--151 total points
25. Ryan Mathews--110 total points
On to the 26th-30th slots!
The draft board to date:
1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2. Ndamukong Suh, DL, Nebraska
3. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
4. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
5. Gerald McCoy, DL, Oklahoma
6. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
7. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
8. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma St.
9. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St.
10. Mike Iupati, OL, Idaho
11. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
12. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
13. Taylor Mays, S, USC
14. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE/OLB, USF
15. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
16. Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
17. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
18. Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB Texas
19. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise St.
20. Jared Odrick, DL, Penn St.
21. Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
22. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
23. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
24. Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
25. Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno St.
Our Draft Board
Our draft board will be a ranking of the players that are draft eligible, from best to worst. It should also take need, value, and character into account--if you think these things should be taken into account at all. If you always want the best player available, just rank them from best to worst.
For more information, see the initial Big Board post.
Instructions
Rank the top five available players. Take talent, value, need, and character into account if you think the Browns should take these things in to account when drafting.
Players will receive 5 points for every first place vote, 4 for every second place, and so on. They will receive 0 points if they are unranked. Total points from all ballots will be added, and the 5 players with the most votes will be taken out of the pool of available players and put up on the big board.
This is not a mock draft.
Don't predict what will happen
Don't think about other teams
Don't worry about who is available. Assume everyone you can vote for is available. (I will take players out of the vote-able pool once we put them on the board)
Just rank your guys in the order you would like to see them drafted by the Browns.
For instance, I think the top five players purely in terms of talent are:
1. Ndamukong Suh, DT
2. Eric Berry, S
3. Gerald McCoy, DT
4. Sam Bradford, QB
5. Anthony Davis, OT
Because of need, value, and character, my first ballot will look like this:
1. Suh
2. Berry
3. Bradford
4. Earl Thomas
5. Rolando McClain
Please vote only once.
Using the Scouts Inc. rankings (yes, I am aware of how much you hate Todd McShay) I will compile a pool of 25 draft eligible players. We will take a poll and rank players five at a time. New polls will happen every two days or so until the draft.
If there are players you think I should include in the draft-eligible pool--especially if they aren't coming up in McShay's rankings, let me know and I will put them in for the next poll. Thanks for voting!
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I officially drafted positions for the last two on this section, not knowing anything of value about the remainder of players.
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
this happened to me after about 10-15 players. i still know a good deal of these names and players, but i wouldn’t be able to rank them on anything other than gut feeling.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 13, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Ideally to 50, yes. That’s what we did last year.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Now if we could only get Lerner to answer our calls!
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 14, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Colt Mccoy is not a top21 player
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 13, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
That is not what we are trying to accomplish. We are trying to combine both player’s overall talent along with Browns needs.
Him over Dan Williams or Tony Davis is ridiculus though
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 13, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
We have a Pro Bowler at NT and a Pro Bowler at LT.
For the Browns it makes complete sense. For the Bronco’s, I am not sure.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 13, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t the theory that the Pro Bowler is going to be moved to DE while NT is manned by another very qualified player?
by BrownDawg1409 on Apr 13, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Count me in the camp that still wants Rogers at NT for the majority of the time.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 13, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really know about that. Weren’t we better defensively with Rubin than Rodgers at NT? Wasn’t there the theory thath Rubin plays his assignments and Rodgers is more of a free-lancer-do-what-it-takes kinda guy?
by BrownDawg1409 on Apr 14, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Too small of a sample size to judge. Not saying Rubin isn’t good, but to believe at this stage that Rubin is better than Rogers is farfetched.
Yes, we were better with Rubin at nose. And Holmgren and Co. agree (if you can believe anything printed in the Plain Dealer).
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by golanbatrac on Apr 14, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Our whole team played better with Rubin at nose, but whether or not our improvement was because of Rubin or just a coincidence is up for debate.
We played really well defensively in a few games (with Rogers at nose) that don’t often get mentioned because our defense played great for 3 quarters, then checked out mentally/got tired while our offense displayed it’s ineptitude.
Like the Denver game, or to a lesser extent the Minnesota game. Or the 2nd Baltimore game.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Shaun rogers is going to have to change his game quite a bit to succeed in our defense. Guy needs to stop trying to make big “glory” plays like pass rushes to be the nose tackle. Either he is going to get moved out to DE (where he will still have to conform to the program) or get sent packing to a 4-3 team.
In our scheme the 0 technique absolutely has to ignore any form of glory and making a big play in favor of just doing his sometimes thankless job. in a nutshell the nose must prevent the tag block and the jump-thru at all costs. He must not get pushed out of his gap responsibility (even if the offense double teams) and he must not let one of those blockers move up to the linebackers (tag block). This is his responsibility. I don’t think Rogers wants to do the thankless job of 3-4 defensive lineman when he could be a more glorified 4-3 lineman where they are asked to fire through gaps and blow over the offensive lineman in pass rush mode. Essentially the same problem corey williams had.
"Smokescreen."
Who knows what happens to Rogers and dan Williams is a hell of a player Davis would also be great at RT or RG
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows what happens to Rogers? Really? Did he do something else that I didn’t hear about?
In all likelihood end up being a slap on the wrist. Maybe suspended one game by the NFL (and I think that is a stretch).
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 14, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Why Pouncey over Davis? Mack daddy has u covered. Can’t say the same about pashos
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 13, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
Pouncey could play any interior position.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 13, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
As a guard he is nothing special
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 13, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to be a jerk, but how can you say this?
Are you basing it off his freshman season where he started there?
What makes you think he is “nothing special” at guard?
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 13, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Fill me in, cuz I’ve never heard of him unless he’s the guy Don Banks has been projecting to go to the Steelers until as of late.
by BrownDawg1409 on Apr 13, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Center. Florida. Beast. He’ll be a ten year starter at any of the interior line positions.
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by golanbatrac on Apr 13, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I picked Jahvid Best at 25. He’s a good back and I give him some credit.
*Pac-10 homer. :)
Everything seems less funny to me since I quit drinking.
I would have voted for Best a while ago, but his injuries terrify me.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I consider that concussion that kept him out several weeks to be much scarier than anything Beanie ever suffered. Beanie had a long list of what seemed like nagging, small injuries. Best has suffered some pretty serious injuries that have kept him out substantial periods of time:
2007: Misses three games with hip injury. 2008: Misses spring practices with hip injury. Dislocates left elbow and misses Arizona state game. 2009: Misses spring practices recovering from foot and elbow surgeries. Misses practice time with a toe injury during preseason. Sustains a concussion and injures his back during Oregon State game, misses the final three games of the season.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
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