Cleveland Browns 2010 NFL Draft Day 2 - Open Thread (Part 2)
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 7:07 PM EDT
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PrintIf you missed part one of today's game thread where fans reacted to the selection of T.J. Ward, go here. Otherwise, continue the discussion on the remainder of round two here. Depending on how many comments we get in this one, I'll see if I have to open another thread for round three.
As of this post, the Jimmy Clausen fall continues. Who knows -- maybe Clausen or McCoy will be available in the third round.
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So, do we move back in the second????
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
As my friend just pointed out, with Clausen and McCoy still on the board, Denver could have waited and just picked Tebow now.
That’s not necessarily right at all.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t think so. Word was Buffalo was going to take him.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The Broncos should pick Clausen just to mess with everyone.
by Chemo on Apr 23, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Even odds.
I have been saying for a while that Colt was falling to late 2nd, early 3rd. I am very surprised about Clausen though — I think BQ scared a lot of people off him (logically or not).
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
part of my wants to believe its karma
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
woot!
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i didnt say anything about the war… and honestly i didn’t say anything bad about northerners either
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
it was a joke
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dixie is associated with the war. We won, you lost. Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground!!!
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves . . . for 1995. He tried to get down to Miami for 1997, but had too much fun burning Atlanta.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
dixie might be assosciated with the war with you guys, but it was written in the north and the south is still dixie, just check any Alabama license plate.
But either way, I didn’t come here to start a North-South flame war. I was just friendly teasing you guys about northern weather, and now apparently Im Nathaniel Bedford Forest incarnate.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
no, he’s real. He was a military genius for the South, but a cruddy dude who started the KKK.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
“groomed” is the technical term
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Is troy pissed that the Browns didn’t take a Levi Brown
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not mind trading back into the second for McCoy, which is what I’ve been mentioning for weeks now.
So far, I’m really liking this draft.
Coleman in the third
Cleveland Browns Key Departures: Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
home
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rocland’s bathtub?
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Such a crappy draft for QBs. And it shows.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ve been waiting 2 days to say that. lol
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
a day longer than i thought i would have to.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t be surprised if the Browns pick Kafka in a later round… not tonight. Unless Holmgren is blowing smoke. I kinda wish we’d have gotten Mays over Ward. If you want to see a hard hitter, check out this…
Brownsyup
hows your upside?
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
36 yrs. old, 6’0 tall, 210lbs.; pretty strong, marginal speed. can throw a football 15 feet from my knees. questionable at reading defenses, but i’m a WINNER! (at least i was in midget football)
by Dawg Nuts on Apr 23, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW… LeFevour is the other QB besides McCoy that passes the Lewin test. But there is that small school thing that is supposed to be a negative factor. Who knows?
Brownsyup
I dunno…Miami of Ohio’s a small school, Alcorn St’s a small school, they both produced NFL caliber QBs/
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Just about to.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
TJ Ward apparently ran a 40 at 4.46-4.49 at his pro day, along with a 4.12 short shuttle, and a 7.00 3-cone drill. His vertical at the combine was 34", and he put up 225 on the bench press 19 times.
He can move and he can lay the wood. If he stays healthy he could be solid for us.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Comparable size and measurables to Troy Polamalu. I’d say that his celing is somewhere in modest comparison range of the Steelers safety. However he might never reach his absolute potential.
"Smokescreen."
(homer)
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It is comforting knowing we won’t end having Clausen on this Browns happy.
This draft just keeps getting better and better.
Coleman in the third
by Simmsinns on Apr 23, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Did he hit on your girlfriend?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Who do you think gave Clausen that black eye?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Believe me, he deserved it.
Coleman in the third
by Simmsinns on Apr 23, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, they are sold on Alex Smith’s performance last year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think taking 2 OL in round 1 was a pretty strong statement in support of Smith. They could use some defense or a WR or maybe another back.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Well at least he went to a good situation.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
Well, they got lucky. It’s great value for 47.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably a better situation for Clausen. Less pressure for him, less money for them. Win, win.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Taylor Mays at 48? Can’t fault it. On my mock board I had them taking TJ Ward lol
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If, as alluded to above, Mays really isn’t smart, then he probably isn’t Singletary’s type of guy. Singletary wasn’t a great MLB b/c of his size or speed.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Mays gets a bad rap for that. Hes not stupid so much as he’s overaggressive
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of like the army of northern virginia in the gettysburg campaign!
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Lee never should have called that audible to Pickett
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They got their signals mixed up.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, they read our plays earlier in the season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Order_191
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
And unskilled.
This could be a situation where Singletary will take some pride and say “If anyone can coach him up, I can”.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
And he’d probably be right. I was sad last year when the Browns got Mangini and the Niners got Singletary.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I was extremely upset at not getting the coach that pulls his pants down during half time.
One picture is worth 128K words.
hey, dude goes sans pan taloons, Im listening to what hes got to say. Im calling the cops, but Im listening.
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Vernon Davis did. And the stats back it up.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think we made the better decision. I’m sticking with Mangini until he’s fired.
One picture is worth 128K words.
I’m happy with Mangini now but it appears we will agree to disagree.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Singletary would have bitch slapped Braylon Edwards halfway to Michigan. And then gotten him to produce like it was 2007 again. If he’s gotta pull his pants down to get his point across, so be it.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s 7:37 PM on April 23, 2010 and Braylon Edwards still sucks.
Did I do that right?
One picture is worth 128K words.
by StuckInPa on Apr 23, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yup, the rap on him is it will take him a few years to read zone comfortably. He jumps too many routes. He has all the physical skills, he’s not really dumb, he’s eventually a starter. I wanted him over Ward as a safety but Ward will start day one and won’t be a liability in coverage.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sticking with my gut. Our Quarterback of the future is Skelton.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
You’d rather have Skelton than Clausen?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point, I’m starting worry about that first rd/early second divide that defines QB’s.
by BrownDawg1409 on Apr 23, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve said it two dozen times. And I’ll say it again. We signed Delhomme and we traded for Wallace. We DON’T NEED TO DRAFT A QB THIS YEAR if we aren’t sold on one. At best we’re a .500 squad next year. And next years draft is loaded with talent far above these guys. Meanwhile this years draft is loaded with DL, DB, WR, and OL. Fill slots. Worry about our franchise QB next year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll say it 4 dozen times and 3 more ta boot. I don’t know where you get your info that the QBs are so much better next year. Similar stats, programs and crap shoot! I do think your point is well taken about Delhomme and Wallace but I do you really think either is the QB of the future for the Browns?
Brownsyup
First off, I NEVER said either was the “QB of the Future” for the Browns. Aside from Bradford, and even he has big question marks, I don’t see a QB this year as our QB of the future.
Second, it’s a known FACT if you actively follow college football that next years QB class is far better than this one. Heck, even an amateur can use google for that. I don’t mean that as a personal insult. It’s just a fact.
Case Keenum, Blane Gabbert, Jerrod Johnson, Terrelle Pryor, Christian Ponder, Ryan Mallett, Jake Locker.
I refined my list. That’s what probably will be available. All of them will be gone by the end of the 2nde round.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again, you don’t make picks this year based on what you think might be available next year. So many things can change over the course of one season.
I’m willing to bet that all those QB’s won’t be picked in the top 2 rounds next year.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong but this year seems like a great time to take a chance on a guy from a smaller school in a later round and see if you can’t coach him up. Low pressure, low financial investment and low risk of the fans revolting and wanting him on the field after Delhomme throws his 1st INT.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree on your later point. Less chance of fans revolting after Delhomme throws his first INT. I didn’t want to see a situation like every year we’ve had for the last half decade. Then we toss in whoever is next on the list, they do no better, and we fire the coach.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Good teams don’t make decisions based on what the fans want. Holmgren won’t do that.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you. Unfortunately that doesn’t stop the fans from chanting for insert back-up QB name here
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate addressing only one area of the team in consecutive picks. You can throw anyone in the secondary and get result if you can rush the QB
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
Really? The Browns late round CBs last year couldn’t even get on the injury depleted field.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t be surprised with a receiver. Lots of them available right now.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, makes some sense now, but how good will his blocking be vs. elite from 7s in this league?
Coleman in the third
thats the question. But you figure at minimum he can soften Defenses up for A, and save him wear and tear. Probably goal line work, too
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
probably use him as FB
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN IT. Ran to McD’s and missed it.
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
im also of the thought of drafting a qb next year. id rather have ryan mallet or jake locker than any qb in this draft anyway
The Browns would have to suck bad enough to get those guys. I’d hope for some improvement this year.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Christian Ponder might be available and I’d rather have him than a lot of the guys in the QB class this year as well.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
You are talking outside my scope of knowledge now. I’m lucky to know the guys available this year.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s gaining some hype I think, he had great numbers before his injury against some decent competition. At least as good as what Locker saw. Honestly, having watched a ton of FSU and a ton of Arkansas football, I think Ponder is better than the inconsistent, almost Anderson-esque Mallet.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
i think mallet is gonna have a big year this year.. of course its all a crap shoot, but you always see them times when he just looks like a beast
yeah thats the thing about him, is he’s got it in him, he’s just so inconsistent and doesn’t he also have some character issues? He’ll make a play a lot of NFL QBs cant then miss a gimme.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
well, i dont think he has any character issues. his thing was he started at michigan and then with the coaching change he transferred to arkansas. which made him sit for a year. there was no way he was gonna play for richrod in the spread offense
yeah definitely he wasn’t a good personnel fit, but I’ve heard he’s had some issues at Arkansas. could just be some useless scuttlebutt though.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
i guess it’ll just be a wait and see.. he could shoot up to a surefire #1 pick next year, or drop down in the later rounds.. who knows? for instance, taylor mays was goin in the top 10 if he came out last year
Guess I didn’t look into his stats, but what I did see were his big games. Where all I heard was hype, and he didn’t live up to it.
One picture is worth 128K words.
His stats are really good, and the FSU offense was pretty good last year, mostly because of him seeing as the run game was pretty substandard and the WRs there are mediocre at best. I feel like Ponder kept FSU in most of their big games, and while I really don’t care about FSU at all, I live in Tallahassee so I’m a season ticket holder, so I’ve seen him play a lot.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
He was very inconsistent.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ponder is a stud. Also, Terrelle Pryor might be on the board. Lets see how OSU looks next year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
well, what i would like to see is us trading a couple of those third round picks, for maybe a first next year. heckert was a master at doing this at philly for years. not sure if we could pull it off or not. even if we traded for some 2nd’s next year, then we could use them to trade up into the early first next year..
We would have to trade all our remaining picks to get a first rounder next year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Gerhard is a poor man’s Peyton Hillis ;)
by DrewskiC on Apr 23, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey How’s it going?
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
Well, I just figured out who ‘TRSS’ refers to.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
haha.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course the Bengals take Dunlap
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
Yes. It seems a lot of teams are making the perfect moves. Our draft seems a little disjointed this year. It seems like we have a 3-headed monster (coach, GM and Pres) compromising. I’m pretty sure that most of the pundits would give us a C or B- at this point for taking 2 players a little two high—not that there is anything wrong with that. What do they know?
Brownsyup
Scroll up to see my reply on next years draft class.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
so i think we can all agree that from here on out, we should draft Boris Lee, Cameron Sheffield, Levi Brown, Jorrick Calvin, and Brandon Lang, right?
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Troy also has a LB named Bear Woods, and he has long flowing white guy dreads and crazy face paint.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Our new QB’s name is Max Killmaster and he has a huge mohawk and teardrop tats under his eyes.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Could McCoy fall to #71? Looks like a decent possibility! Seahawks at #60 are a possible threat, and KC at #68.
Coleman in the third
I will grudgingly accept a McNugget selection at 71. If we select him I will never call him McNugget again.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I really dont beleive KC is in the market for a QB at all. Theyve got Cassel who I think theyre deadset on trying to make something out of, they really like Croyle as their no 2, and Matt Gutierrez has brownie points with Pioli and isn’t a terrible number 3 anyways.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Let’s hope this guy hits the Krispy Kreme hard this summer.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I like your sentiment but posing as a Ravens fan is one thing I cannot do.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you guys think about Golden Tate? We definitely need a WR and he is still on the board. Amazing.
Brownsyup
Kindle and Mount Cody to the Ravens? I don’t like this one bit.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
its ok, cody is only good for 1 down a series because he gets winded so easily
by superbacker56 on Apr 23, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention, they really improved their offense with Boldin. And an emerging Ray Rice.
Everyone else in the AFC North should be worried as hell.
Coleman in the third
You can see why the ravens are always so good. Ozzie Newsome having another fantastic draft. Traded his third rounder to get Boldin, then replenishes his draft by trading out of the first round. Gets two solid picks in the second in my opinion and still has 2 more picks than he started the draft with.
"Smokescreen."
i gotta be honest. i dont like the idea of drafting a WR. we gotta find out about robiskie and massaquoi
nothing wrong with a little depth at WR.
by superbacker56 on Apr 23, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If they’re available in the third round, I might be eying McCoy, Wootton, and Tate.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
i do
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam_Schefter — Cleveland just traded up – has to be Colt McCoy. #nfldraft
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Colt?
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Colt McCoy is sweet at this spot
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
woot - Hardesty !
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
un no we’re not
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
LOADED I tell you!
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda like Jacobs from NY
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
cannot be tackled !!!!!!!
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
We have a top 5 offensive line. And we need 2-3 backs. We are officially loaded at running back. We can sub studs in over and over.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
We do NOT have a top 5 line at all
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand drafting RB’s.
What I don’t understand is trading up for a RB.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 23, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And Mel Kiper is blowing his top. All good things.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking more of a scat back. Who is going to be gone now. Harrison? Davis? The new guy from Denver?
Brownsyup
did we get rid of jennings yet?
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Of the four, surely Davis.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
so we have 2 backs splitting time and a good backup…I like it…small fast back and sopme power now
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree. Harrison still hasn’t signed his tender. Davis is a big? This is what the Jets did. They stocked up on RBs and guess what, they led the league in rushing week after week.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So they really didn’t think he’d last?
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
no way we dealt four picks for that
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m shocked by that. Not in a bad way. But I’m shocked.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
Hardesty is fucking sic.
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
I guess I should be pissed, though. I just looked like an utter moron when I stated, “There is no way we trade up for anyone but Colt McCoy, I don’t even need to watch the announcement.”
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If Vickers is done after being a monster fullback, then we’d be insane.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
After looking at this maybe the Browns were worried about Hillis:
http://www.zimbio.com/Cecil+Sapp/articles/5/Peyton+Hillis+Denver+Broncos+Player+Bio
Injury concerns and he seems like more of a Vickers and we already have a Vickers. So why did they get Hillis in the first place. To make the Quinn trade look better?
Brownsyup
How soon before Harrison signs his tender.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Mike was just talking about how Holmgren told him he would entrust Mangini to make these picks with Heckert
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean the guy who turned around the Jets?
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
can we wait to see robiskie and massaquio actually play before we just keep drafting wide receivers?
Well we already know that Robiskie didn’t play and in a losing season in which there wasn’t a lot of reason not to play him unless he really stinks. And he was touted as “NFL ready”. Bust.
Brownsyup
the point is, if the kid isn’t even seeing the field in our substandard WR corps, that doesn’t rally bode well for what the coaches are seeing.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Must have thought the Jets or Colts would get Hardesty.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
some hardesty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4PWCT4srx4
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
yeah im thinking waay down the line maybe…
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys are NUTS if you thinik this even remotely compares to Butch or mangini’s drafts
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
They are taking explosive physical players. You can argue that you wanted “that guy” but there is apattern here. Physical, explosive, hard working, lots of upside. And all of the picks fill needs.
Some disagree that running back was a need. It does give us more depth, but hardly needed a RB. Harrison is awesome, and Hillis is a great compliment, and Davis is there as well.
Coleman in the third
It’s my opinion that in Cleveland you can’t have enough RBs. We need to return to the days of 2 1000 rushers.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No, this isn’t the 70’s any more. The NFL is a passing league now. Running the ball is important, but you score through the passing game.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Why are yall so high on Lafevour? Not saying he isn’t solid, I’m just genuinely curious why so many people on here seem to really like him.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
He’s kind of like the mini Tebow with a better release. That’s why people like him. I think he’s too small but I wouldn’t be upset with a 5th rounder for him.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
this
4 year starter; super tough SOB. Good arm too.
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he play much under center? And I agree he’s undersized. He also underperformed in big games IMO.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
he won two MAC championship games. those werent big?
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but it’s still possible he’s on the board in the 6th.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yahoo says Hardesty has durability issues. I can’t confirm that’s right, but I am just so confused about this whole thing.
Who doesn’t have “durability” issues? I hate that word. Bradford just sat out the entire last year and was taken first. Hardesty missed time in his first two years, I think and a little bit last year?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
he didnt miss any last year just his first two with a knee injury
by Cameron Curlings on Apr 23, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Want to twist this thinking a little bit. Who says Harrison stays healthy? Mangini always ran 2-3 backs with the Jets. And 2 of them cleaned up. And when one got hurt they’d just swap in a youngster.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea. I’m not a fan of this draft strategy so far
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN is really screwing up this “Primetime” thing. Commercials are cutting into it and even worse, their montages and interviews are as well.
Coleman in the third
I’m with you. Seems like half the pics happen during commercial.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Really shitty coverage.
No chemistry between the panelists. Bad timing with the commercials. Kiper. They hardly look interested.
he missed the first year with a knee injury
by Cameron Curlings on Apr 23, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Rule #1. You do not punch people in the face and stay in Cleveland. Rule #2. You do not punch people in the face and stay in Cleveland.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s the breakdown of pics the Browns have left?
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks. So what should they go for?
OT
DE
OLB
Developmental QB?
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Could. Maybe someone like Jordan Shipley or Gilyard.
Just don’t think so. Heckert already said no WRs are coming in.
I’d like to see a RT. After that I don’t care. Although the age of the D line is scary.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
and 186 (6th)
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as he keeps the eye gouging to a minimum. I have a feeling Roger won’t be nearly as forgiving as the University of Florida.
Coleman in the third
by Simmsinns on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it was sickening to me that even the player knew his punishment wasn’t enough. he had to go ask for a worse punishment.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Montario Hardesty
“good muscular build. presses the line. not afraid of contact- lowers his shoulders and fights for extra yardage. flashes a spin move. nice hands as a reciever. willing blocker. "
“Decisive, one-cut inside slasher. solid back who does everything well but nothing great”
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
We DEFINITELY take a receiver in the 3rd.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Seahawks have had a great draft. Possibly the best tackle, second-best safety, possibly the best wide receiver
we don’t pick again until 21 in the third round
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Point analysis for trade.
Moving from 71 to 59 310-235 = 75
Pick 134 = 39
Pick 146 = 33
Total = 72
Pretty much followed the points.
Brownsyup
Think of it this way, Haden, Wright, and Brown ill rotate as starters and play all downs all year long. Ward will be either starting at Safety game 1 or at least playing regularly and should be starting by mid season. And Hardesty will get serious burn as a first/second down back. We strengthened our DBs and solidified our solid running game.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew that it was a possibility…but man…
I didn’t see Colt McCoy dropping to the third.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
1. He’s not Delhomme.
2. He’s not Delhomme.
Coleman in the third
by Simmsinns on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you don’t like Delhomme or Wallace as 1-2 year fillin guys while we build positional strength then you should be calling for Holmgren’s firing. Cuz that is what they are doing. Period. They are determined to build positional strength and worry about the “Franchise QB” next year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
rec
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
3. He’s not Wallace.
4. He’s not Ratliff
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus: Big. Strong. Cannon arm. Accurate.
Minus: Played at Fordham. Not a lot of touch on his throws.
At best, he’s Joe Flacco. At worst, DA.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
His worst could be a lot worse than DA.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No such thing. DA’s worst is the worst I have ever seen.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I meant DA overrall. Not at his worst.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 24, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
God I hope not…who’s left? No one that couldn’t wait until our next pick anyway.
by Combat Medic on Apr 23, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone has mentioned watching ESPN or NFLNetwork…is anyone listening to Sirius NFL Radio? That’s what I’m doing, and I love it. The guys speculate their own thoughts, and then let the suspense build by letting Goodell actually announce the pick without spoiling it ahead of time.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
ESPN gotten to the point where they don’t even televise the announcement. It is terrible.
Coleman in the third
NFLN too. It’s all talking now.
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, looks like they’re gonna keep the big nasty around for a last year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
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