Cleveland Browns 2010 NFL Draft Day 2 - Open Thread (Part 3)
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT
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PrintThis draft thread is for the discussion of round three. After the Browns traded up into the second round to draft Hardesty, here are the two remaining picks the Cleveland Browns have in the third round:
- 3rd Round: No. 85 overall
- 3rd Round: No. 92 overall
QB Colt McCoy is still on the board, and DE Corey Wootton is another player I'd like to target. Discuss round three in this thread!
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Three picks have happened and they are talking to Pete Carroll?
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
Terike Hoheini
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
that is better than mine. i will use this in the future.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Follows the same pattern as Hoheini.
Either way, it sounds like our front office is run by a gay Japanese magician.
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i would be ok with a magician running things.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
tj ward is a football player, myron rolle dabbles in it from time to time between other pursuits.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Cmon man, that’s unnecessary.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
i was almost entirely joking. I like Myron Rolle, but from what little i’ve heard about either i like ward better.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course Ward is better, he’s wearing Orange and Brown.
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by rufio on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha yeah, obviously!
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone mentioned in the other thread that Heckert said no WRs
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt we’ll see a WR at this point. I can’t see that anyone we’d pick up now at WR would be obviously better than what we have right now.
Brownsyup
oh comeon. we need a burner to open up the field for the other guys. with out the field streached nothing happens. im thinking that guy from OU
I cant watch – either Holmgren gave Mangini way too much influence or Heckert did not have enough time to meld with the scouting staff. These moves are just as bad as last year.
yes that terrible draft we had last year… wait, no, i actually don’t think that happened.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yes that terrible draft we had last year….
sucked
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We started with the no 5 overall and ended up with a nice center. 3 2nd rounders zilch – that was nice. Go drink your kool aid
a nice center, a staring DT, a starting S, a backup QB, a quality #2 maybe even #1 WR, and a project LB. I’ll admit Robi hasn’t shown much, but receivers are notorious for taking a long time to develop.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean a great C, a mediocre DT, a mediocre S that sucks in coverage, a mediocre #2 WR, a bust WR, a bad MLB, and a bust DE,
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Massaquoi was a good #2 last year as a rookie, even if you think he’s hit his ceiling, its better than mediocre.
you can’t call anyone a bust after one year.
that MLB played pretty well for us.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Dude - My Remark Was Uncalled For
Just frustrated and had high hopes for the draft. I just don’t like the positions, injury history, and speed of TJ Ward. Heckert knows more than me though anyway.
Ward’s speed is fine. Timed, at least.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
thats plenty fast for a safety, and while Taylor Mays is more physically gifted, he’s not as good of a football player.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And Mays’ college career was really not good.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
The comparison to Polamalu is not convincing, but Ward can be a good player.
But nothing is going to get rid of the injury concerns except him not being injured in the NFL.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I just think that Major Wright and Morgan Burnett would have been better free safeties. Maybe even Chad Jones and Taylor Mays
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I never saw a time anywhere near 4.68. He ran a 4.54 at the combine (the lowest time on your spectrum) than a 4.48 at his pro day. that isn’t berry, thomas or mays speed but thats right up there with Nate Allen and Chad Jones.
I wouldn’t say mays had a better college career. he had 3 interceptions in his freshman year and thats about it.
for a fast guy, when blitzing, mays had trouble getting to the QB. He made a lot of tackles in his career but a lot of those were assisted tackles Ward was much better at bringing the guy down on intial contact instead of needing multiple players.
mays isn’t a playmaker at all (one fumble forced, no sacks, 2 INTs in the last 3 years) compared to Ward ( 6 forced fumbles, 1 sack, 2 QB hurries, 2 INTs and 8 TFLs).
mays is a pure height/weight/speed guy with a midround tape. Ward is a guy with a late first round tape (would be higher with more INTs) butr not great speed and questionable durability.
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Dude, it’s been ONE YEAR. Wide receivers take time to develop. You can’t judge a draft after one year.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i sure wish we could all figure out what the deal with robiskie is? wonder if it has something to do with them firing his dad?
wonder if it has something to do with them firing his dad?
It really shouldn’t.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
yeah, his dad’s been in miami for a few years now.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta, too, I thought.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
ah you might be right. i know he originally went to miami
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He was productive at Ohio State despite non-awesome QBs, no red flags came up in terms of timed speed/measurements, he got over the top of several NFL CBs, he had great hands, and he exemplifies the things Mangini likes (character, hard work, football means something to them, etc.)
The biggest concern was his ability to make cuts and separate, which is probably why he didn’t get on the field. I also suspect OSU’s passing offense is really really simple, which would be a good reason he didn’t digest the playbook last year.
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Draft was good last year.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I misread that. Interpreted as “project to OLB in 3-4”
Please, project away on when he will be drafted :)
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Thad…
GAHNKI!!!!!
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t you have a couple bets you lost that people are still waiting to collect on?
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Only players left on the DBN Big Board:
21. Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
39. Thaddeus Gibson, DE/OLB, Ohio St.
45. Everson Griffen, DE/OLB, USC
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Damnitt I knew I forgot something today!
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I took a peak at the 46-50 spots, but I don’t know if 12 votes is conclusive enough to include them.
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 12?
I lost interest after 30.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction, also add
32. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, yeah. he’s been a 49er for an hour and he already did an interview talking about how pete carroll didnt draft him. wtf? keep your mouth shut and be happy you’re in the NFL
The only players on my wish list from now on is Jon Jerry, Eric Norwood, and Bruce Campbell
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll bet that idiot Mangini won’t draft any of them!
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing is perfectly clear. If you watched the last 4 games last year. Get used to that old school approach. Run, Run, Run, Screen, Run, Run, Run,Run, CROSSING ROUTE, Run, Deep Ball…. Run, Run, Run….
TD
With McCoy, now you’re getting into the territory where a team can draft him just to have a backup quarterback (meaning a team without a QB issue could grab him).
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Nah, most teams don’t blow a 3rd on a backup. They draft him because they think he could be a starter. In the end, sadly, McNugget has been judged judged as a 5yr backup by the scouts. A slight upgrade to a Ken Dorsey. He just doesn’t have the physical attributes. Clearly the Browns scouting staff feels the same. He’s just not big enough. But ya, maybe someone takes him just to take him.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else see the guy in the Quinn jersey getting his pic with Goodell?
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Is there any team with more outdated jerseys from the last decade than the Browns?
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yahoo has made me feel better:
Ward: T.J. Ward is simply a football player. He’s undersized and has some medical issues, but is really fluid when asked to redirect and find the football and loves to bring the wood vs. the run game. A really solid pick in Round 2.
Hardesty: A really talented back who has the ability to make people miss inside and accelerate into the open field. Runs hard and can break tackles, but has some real durability issues.
They are solid players!!
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
my issue with ward is that we already have a supposedly stout safety against the run (abram). we need a free safety and ward looks more like a SS
by Dawgger on Apr 23, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec for needing a free safety
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair Ward has played/can play both.
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by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. We needed a ballhawk, not a hard hitter
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How can it be possible for one person to hate EVERY pick the Browns make? You must try really hard to do that.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
How is it possible for you to bitch so much about my opinion. Got a problem, ignore me and move on
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps he just feels that Buffalo might be a more fitting team for you to root for.
Coleman in the third
by Simmsinns on Apr 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If you haven’t noticed, I’m not the only one who is annoyed by your constant grumpiness.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Have the ball enough to speak for yourself, not everyone else. If you don’t like my opinion, ignore me. You’re constant bitching isn’t any less annoying than my “grumpiness”, so STFU and skip over my comments if you have a problem. Easy right?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you enjoy anything?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
He enjoyed washing Sergio Kindle.
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by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
kids are easily entertained afterall
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you mean approve? I Enjoy lots of things, I dont approve of many of these moves
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I mean enjoy. You seem to be mad about everything that ever happens to the Browns.
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Admittingly I have low patience with the Browns after years and years of bad personel management. But honestly my “grumpiness” seems accentuated lately because the browns have honestly done nothing, NOTHING that I truly approved of the past 2 years. seriously
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize that nobody respects your opinion when all you do is whine all the time, right? You just seem to be a grumply old guy who always complains about something, and nobody takes that seriously. Why even bother telling us your opinion when it’s always negative? What is the point?
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right. I give a shit about you’re opinion of my opinion. So you shouldn’t feel the need to express it
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just trying to improve the quality of the site.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m admittedly have low patience with the Browns after so many years of seeing the same things over and over. But it seems accentuated because the Browns have honestly not done anything I really, GREATLY approved of the past 2 years. I seriously wasn’t this bad before.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Mangini covets guys who can play both positions.
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Ward used to be a CB so I think he can cover well enough for FS. I think he may end up being solid but I doubt he will be good. JMO
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
a) ward has played both
b) elam is more of a hybrid safety like ward. Elam isn’t a bad cover guy for a FS.
c) rob ryan has stated he doesn’t want a SS and FS, he wants 2 safeties who can play the run and pass and that is what elam and ward are.
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T.J. Ward is simply a football player.
Now I’m relieved.
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still wondering about Hardesty. I hope he turns about to be an assume back behind Harrison.
Coleman in the third
lol
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ward is 215-220lbs. Height is overrated.
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MOST FS’s are still over 5’10. I know some good ones are that size but usually you want a taller one
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Polamalu, Sanders, Reed. I’ll take hard hitter, agile, and fast over 6’+ any day. I’d also like no college injuries, though.
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i dont like the medical issues. hes has two surgeries on his knees
by The Brown Note on Apr 23, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Players I like that are still around:
QB Colt McCoy
DE Corey Wootton
WR Taylor Price
WR Brandon Lafell
WR Damian Williams
OLB Ricky Sappy
NT Cam Thomas
OT Bruce Campbell
LB Donald Butler
i wouldn’t mind throwing a pick at bruce campbell here. i would get to make tons of evil dead references.
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Honey. You got real ugly.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I smile just seeing that name.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Because championship teams have 3265 running backs. We’re almost there.
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good question. Especially since the running game is the ONE thing that seemed to pick up at the end of last season.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t love the Hardesty Pick. Tell you the truth i really like the other 2. I think we should have gone Vladimir Ducasse with that Hardesty pick.
Hopefully we’ll find a few deals on offensive lineman later in the draft.
At this point I think Dan LeFevour is the guy, I hope anyway. Seems like a pretty good athlete, nice release. NFL weight program could benefit him.
"Smokescreen."
There are a lot of QBs left. I cant wait to see who we get. Maybe not till round 5 or 6.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
ya we gave up a lot to get that Hardesty pick. i also think we didnt have to many issues with the RBs we have already. should have gone a different direction.
by The Brown Note on Apr 23, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Our FO might not believe in our RBs.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t hate the hardesty pick. I am not in love with it, but I think it was solid, even considering what we gave up. he has all the tools to be a feature back in the league. he has underrated speed, soft hands, good blocking, great vision, but he does lack in lateral mobility. he could still be a great runner and has been compared to another great running back who came out of Tennessee and was recently on the browns.
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for those still waiting for a qb: anyone we take now is developmental, agreed? What’s the point in drafting a development qb this year when we’ll probably have a high pick next year in a much deeper qb class? let’s just spend whatever later round pick on some depth at another position.
why not get a second round quality QB this year and get a get a great player in a different position next year with our first.
by The Brown Note on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
why not get a second round quality other position and a first round quality qb? qb is more important than most positions
because its more likely a 1st round quality player at another position will be a 1st round quality player 2 years later than a qb will be. us browns fans know this all to well
its so hard to get a good qb in the later rounds. i know there is the huge bust potential when you pick them high, but when you pick them in the 2nd round and they dont turn out, then thats a pick wasted that should have been a starter as well
Perhaps if we’re in good position to take a top QB next year, we will.
Meanwhile, developmental QB learns this year and starts next year. If he shows promise, he starts the whole season, and maybe we have Brees/Rivers, Brady/Cassell, or Vick/Schaub situation.
It’s tough to say who will take McCoy at this point. Now it’s almost like, “gee, if we basically made it an afterthought to take the guy after having several opportunities, did we really even want him?”
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking that Holgren is so set with not taking a QB till the 3rd round that he would take the best available at that point….and i would say that is mccoy
by The Brown Note on Apr 23, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So in the SB Nation Mock Draft, I took Colt McCoy in the second round. If I didn’t take him, I was taking DL Corey Wootton.
It’s mid-way through round three, and they are both still available. Mock draft fail for me.
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Mock draft fail for everyone.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I took Haden and Demaryious Thomas when I did one for the Browns. Win?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Wooton’s injuries scare people.
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He also seems like jarron gilbert of last year. too small to really have a position
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston
Pittsburgh
Atlanta
Cincinnati
Cleveland
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if McCoy is coming anytime soon
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there some major downside to Bruce Campbell that I don’t know about? I’m surprised he’s still on the board.
Coleman in the third
People are afraid of a guy who is a freak athlete but doesn’t play like one?
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Interesting, I didn’t know. I just saw him projected anywhere from top 10 to early second at the latest. I didn’t follow him closely at all in college though, so I don’t know much about him.
Coleman in the third
so i just youtubed john skelton…does anyone else HATE the way he throws? even tho he can throw it a mile
How much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 23, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No players have been traded in this draft, right?
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Seeing if this comment will post…DBN lagging right now…
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Good, it worked again. Just in time for being on the clock in a few minutes.
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get it, we didn’t trade up? Not according to Sirius.
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Colt and Norwood for our next 2 picks please
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
I don;t think we moved up. I think Cincy picked Shipley.
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Why can I just see Michael Smith hanging out in the hallway outside the war room with his ear to the door, like a kid spying on his parents?
by Chief WaDrew on Apr 23, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
At least he made it to the hallway. Poor Grossi spent the draft sitting in his Camry watching the real journalists come and go from the facilities.
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by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, we did NOT move up. We’re on the clock at No. 85 as scheduled.
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LOL fucking morons
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But, but, but, but we shoulda traded up into the 1st to get him!!
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
gtfo
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you prefer Brian Brennan?
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by Spidey on Apr 23, 2010 9:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Joe Jurevicius
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by notthatnoise on Apr 24, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Mack Brown selects Colt!
great value for Browns
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Sending Mack Brown up there was a nice touch.
This pick is the “In Holmgren I trust” pick. It was between Colt or Dan LeFevour and I suppose Holmgren likes Colt’s arm and such better. I’ll live with it.
Get this kid in the weight room though, buff him up and see if he can solidify his arm and prevent injury.
"Smokescreen."
his only weakness is that he isn’t tim tebow.
by Dawg Nuts on Apr 23, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mid third round is an excellent place to pick him up. And Mel Kiper is finally happy.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t argue with #85 for the kid. Still don’t think he’s big enough. But he gets a year to soak up the offense. He’ll be a 3rd/4th stringer year one.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I called it last night — we would not draft Colt unless he fell to the 3rd round. Buckeye Brad said he was 90 percent sure I was wrong. Book it.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
BuckeyeBrad doesn’t like what I had to say about McNu….. I PROMISED, I’ll never say it again!
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But we can both be happy about it.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Apr 23, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I am. It worked out in the end. Hopefully we were able to get two really good players in the 2nd before we got McCoy.
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
pick #92 is coming up…
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop being a nutsack
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Posts I want to do this summer:
-Browns offense: running plays and what few passes we threw.
-Browns D: how/why Rob Ryan is awesome
-Texas O: what Colt did in college
-Florida D: Haden’s responsibilities
Sound interesting? HOpefully I have enough college game tape.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Browns D: how/why Rob Ryan is awesome
Awesome.
by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 23, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
you got a lot of work ahead rufio
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and boom goes the dynamite
Dan LeFevour for Browns QB 2010
by BringBackKosar on Apr 23, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rome qoutes are not allowed
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Rome?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Jim
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Rome says it all the time as a joke.
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Only someone who listens to Jim Rome would know that.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
He’s the only thing on during my break at 10 am
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
OK didnt know it was from that. My bad.
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 23, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
85. Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
I don’t like Colt McCoy as a prospect. I could be wrong, but I think he’s a mini-Kyle Orton. Having said that, he’s a great value toward the bottom of Round 3. He’s a natural fit for Cleveland’s West Coast offense, but why then did the Browns pass on him twice on Day 2? That’s the huge question. (Pick Grade: A)
Wow, I’d expect good ol’ Walter to slam this.
Knowing McCoy would fall to #85:…………
Coleman in the third
by Simmsinns on Apr 23, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Yes! Brilliant indeed! I think he is as good a prospect QB as any in this draft including Bradford. Bradford has a lot of downside risk with his injuries last year and lack of play. McCoy will have one of the best QB developers on the planet in his corner. Bravo Browns!
Brownsyup
The nice thing about taking him at 85 is that he can be a bust and it’s not a big deal. If they don’t like what they see then they can justify taking another QB next year.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We gave up even value to move up and picked a physical/explosive RB and solidified our RB corps. Just like the Jets did for years under Mangini we will ALWAYS have a RB on the field who can break one.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
wtf
wtf who did we trade with what team i mean 2 get that rb can some1 plz tell me
teh eglez got r pics.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re already in to Clemson, as long as you don’t blow your GPA or fail, I think you’re doin alright.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
It’s only AP Government, not a really important class like AP Calculus!
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was a lot easier than Pre-calc, actually.
And then I got to Ohio State and decided to try honors math…now I am an art student.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
They wouldn’t be saying that if they were in my class. ;)
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 23, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i loved calc.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I got a 5 on that test.
And my teacher was on Jeopardy.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Wow, nice. I’m just hoping for a 3. Our class exam is tomorrow, not the actual AP. I could get like a 65 and still have a B- for the year.
I am fairly hog certain I didn’t deserve a 5.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
i think i got a 3, but my teacher was awful and did not prepare us at all for it.
by superbacker56 on Apr 23, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
When I took the test, AP had a deal where you could pay to take the AP government test and then take the AP comparative government test for free. So my entire class took the AP comparative government test without taking the class, which turned the thing into a big joke. In the end, though, I got a 5 in government and pulled off a miracle three in comparative government — I have no idea how this happened — and scored some extra credit hours for college.
lol, I guess it’s not the internet without a “can i haz” line
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW… Prisco on CBS give the McCoy pick an A. First from him in the draft. Bummer about Cincy though. I liked Shipley for the matched set.
Brownsyup
You know McCoy’s coming in with a chip on his shoulder if nothing else.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I am really hoping they can motivate him with his draft day fall.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Not saying that’s how it should be but that’s the reality of the situation. I mean Tim Tebow went in the 1st way ahead of him. I’d certainly feel like I had something to prove.
by Monsters of the Midway on Apr 23, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll be motivated…just getting drafted is a huge honor. He is NOT the kind of kid that isn’t going to work his ass off and he knows why delomme and wallace are there…b/c they want him to learn, listen, and eventually take over…
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve watched Colt McCoy since he first started at Texas and you would not believe the how much he has changed. I doubt yall need to worry about him working hard. He always works hard .I think back when Vince Young first left he walked into Greg Davis’s office(the oc at Texas) and said that he would be better than Vince Young. That kind of thing is rare for someone to say. Anyway…I suppose I’m rooting for both the bengals and the browns.
by willyoubemycharizard on Apr 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone rather of had taylor mayes from usc over the ss we got? or am i the only one who feels that way?
mays would not of been a good fit. he can’t cover anybody all that well
by superbacker56 on Apr 23, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I originally had us selecting Mays and San Francisco picking TJ but I understand their reasoning for the pick. TJ is versatile and can be moved around. He’s also really good in zone coverage. Something Mays hasn’t shown the ability to do.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
cant believe we trader 3 picks 4 that rb dam we got robbed i mean come one we orginally had 12 pik then after the trade we had 10 going n2 the draft and now were going 2 finsh with 8 i mean i thought this draft we could of turned things around but im not so sure abt what were doing i bet
…you need to seriously think about the following things before posting:
(1) punctuation
(2) spelling
(3) logic
(4) not posting.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Emphasis on number 4.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We actually gained 3 trade points for the moveup. Stop posting or learn more about value.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
why dont you use punctation i mean its really hard to reed long runon sentences and it doesnt make you look smart and do you think you know better than holmgren and arent you jumping to conclusions way too sonn and may i suggest another website for you cleveland.com its perfect for you
by Matt Y. on Apr 23, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe in 2011 if McCoy is actually the guy.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
who?
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
Guard from Arizona state. He’s probably the 3rd or 4th ranked Guard on most rankings
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I know nothing about this guy, anyone?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
Big, physical, hard worker, pretty blue collar guy. Durable, won his team’s award for winter strength/conditioning, solid run blocking technique, not a dominant mauler in terms of strength. Needs to get lower in pass pro.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Knew I could count on you Rubio. Reading about him a little more (thanks for the link below emily). Love what I read. How disgusting is our OL if he works out? Damn.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I know even less. What the hell is his name?
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Seriously. If I click a link or open another page my browser will crash.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Shawn Lauvao
Arizona St. 6’2 7/8", 315lbs.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
They were. He’s a solid prospect. Excellent value for the 3rd round. Can play both sides. Strong kid. Good speed.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL TEBOW in the 1st. ha ha ha oh wow
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Don’t know much about Lauvao… hadn’t even heard of him until his name got called. But just some quick reading has made me like the pick.
no
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re drafting BPA, not filling holes.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I am not so sure we are.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
It sort of looks like we’re not, but I’m taking Heckert’s word for it. He said we’d be taking BPA.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s true to a point, but with certain qualifiers. We wouldn’t take another RB, for instance. We have no damn room.
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
Yeah, definitely. We’re not taking anymore Backs.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he ever come out and say that? The only thing I had read had said “we’d like to be able to go with the best available”, meaning that would be ideal but we might have too many bigtime needs.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I thought he said it after the Sheldon Brown trade. That bringing in Brown (and Delhomme anf Hillis, etc..) would let them go with the best player available. I could be wrong though (and my current computer situation makes it near impossible to fact check).
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I don’t remember reading that but it was what I was hoping/thinking. I hope we weren’t reaching for need. It is a little coincidental that we ended up filling 4 of our biggest needs, though. I’m not complaining.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Ill trust Heckert in the late rounds at this point. I don’t hate any of our picks but I definitely don’t love the trade up for hardesty. This team must have really liked Lauvao for that right guard spot. Lets hope the strength coach does some good work with these guys.
Still would like to see a wideout. Andre Roberts was a steal for the cards, I think.
"Smokescreen."
Sort of, we’re drafting the BPA based on what we view as needs. The weird thing is, we’re actually considering “Need” as creating dominant sectors in our lineup. We looked to create a dominant DB situation. We did. We looked to create a dominant RB situation. We did. We looked to create a dominant Offensive Line and we did. And we got a hell of a QB prospect at 85 which won’t be considered a dismal failure if he busts.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
“I know you can never have to many OLs”
So ya. Just stick with your first thought.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And that’s a wrap. Off to normal tv now.
If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, you own it. If it doesn’t, you don’t own it. And if it doesn’t, you’re an asshole. Just like you.
I know this has been mentioned…but I have found the coverage on ESPN to be absolutely horrible. Jesus. That was completely unwatchable at points. Berman would just stare into the TV, 3 or 4 talking heads would say something irrelevant, they’d have a commercial and 3 picks later…we get more awkward moments with Berman!
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Radio Coverage > TV Coverage
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I’m outta here. I need to keep studying.
I’m very happy about our picks! I know earlier I was all pissy about Ward and Hardesty, but it was b/c I didn’t think we’d get Colt. Sorry if I annoyed some people by being like that.
After some reading though, I’m liking this draft. Hopefully we can get some steals in the 5th and 6th!
Glad your feeling better…you were getting a bit tense there…
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I was never sold on Colt. Still think he’s way to small. And hated the idea of picking him at 38. BUT, love him at 85. And we all get to be happy now.
by gentryholdem on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s an inch shorter and 7 lbs lighter than clausen. its not that big a deal.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
also, wikipedia already has him listed as a quarterback for the browns.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad we dont have any 4th round picks. lots of good prospects left
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
what the patriots just did.. this is exactly what im talking about!!!!! trade thirds this year for seconds next year!
Except we just got Colt McCoy with our third rounder. Anyone NOT okay with that should really think about getting their head checked.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
im always trying to think ahead… could have traded a couple of our third rounders for seconds next year… then packaged them next year to trade up high in the first round… then got jake locker, ryan mallet, whoever the top qb is next year… instead, we’ll be trying to develop this guy while some other teams are drafting these guys
Crap the saints took Jimmy Graham
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
i know i was!
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 23, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Do not do a bing image search for that. I wanted to post a funny picture and well. . .
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
dont think i saw a single magician…….well maybe i did
by superbacker56 on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Paging Doctor Faggot!
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually think this was the area where he was supposed to be drafted. He only seemed to shoot up the draft boards after Kiper began hyping him up, other than that he was always considered a 3rd round pick
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Take whatever Chris says and subtract a half hour.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 23, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There are some good TE’s left on the board — Hernandez, Pitta, Dickerson. I’d love to get one of them but we’d probably have to trade up to the 4th.
I think WR is a bigger need too. We need a slot guy with some speed. If Robo and MoMass are going to play on the outside we could use a speedy guy in the slot to stretch the defense.
"Smokescreen."
…except that goes away from our identity as a power running team. Why split the guy out wide when you can’t run from the spread (because of our personnel, not trying to get into the college offense stuff right now)?
Ben Watson is our guy to stretch the middle of the field. Versatility and multiplicity mean nothing if the defense knows what you are doing when you line up in a certain formation. Maybe if we had the most success from 3-wide sets we would need a speedy slot guy. We got the guy we needed (Watson), a slot WR would be just a bonus.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
what? you can run from 3 wide with no college trickeration or anything. If you have a slot receiver, especially one who is really fast, the defense generally has to put a nickelback on the field to cover him. This, in turn takes one of the front 7 out of the box, letting you run more effectively. You can be a power running team from whatever formations and personnel groupings you want.
We could have plenty of success out of 3 wide receiver formations if we had any receivers, right now I’d like to see us come away with at least one, and I wouldn’t mind if it was Jacoby Ford.
"Smokescreen."
WE can’t run from 3-wide.
The Browns’ personnel. Not some hypothetical in a vacuum theory.
Drafting Jacoby Ford wouldn’t change that. Really good play from Delhomme might, but I’m not counting on that.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
if i had to pick one of the newcomers, i would say Fujita. just my gut.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 24, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I am expecting very little from Fujita, and that’s from a Fujita fan.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
same, i like the guy a lot, but my expectations are very, very low.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Apr 25, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yea we signed watson. Between him and evan moore we’re not drafting another TE
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 23, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
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