Mangini is Ready to Get Creative With Seneca Wallace
Cleveland Browns head coach Eric Mangini elaborated some more Monday on the thought of backup quarterback Seneca Wallace seeing some special packages this year. I love Mangini's direct answer here, which might stem from Mike Holmgren rubbing off on him a little bit:
"Seneca’s going to have plays in there where he’ll be involved, and maybe he’ll be involved with Josh (Cribbs), and we can have some fun with that."
Questions were also posed to Mangini as to whether or not Wallace would have a legitimate shot at becoming the starting quarterback if Jake Delhomme struggles in the preseason. Mangini didn't directly answer that question, but overall it still seems like it will be Delhomme's ship to captain to start the season:
"They’re different types of quarterbacks," Mangini said. "Jake definitely has a larger body of work, although I’ve played against Seneca, and he was tough."
If Romeo Crennel had stated that Wallace would have some plays for him, then I probably would have discounted it immediately as a nonsensical smokescreen. Although Mangini was not perfect in utilizing players last season, he along with Brian Daboll started getting things right by the end of the season by utilizing the best assets on offense as much as possible.
Wallace probably shouldn't have too many reps -- after all, if he enters a game, we want to catch the defense by surprise. We also want to establish continuity in the running game, some level of stability with Delhomme, and a way to keep getting Cribbs into the game. That limits Wallace's chances, but even if it is one play every two to three games, it could be that play that contributes to the Browns winning another ballgame.
Mangini is also getting better when it comes to being short and sweet. On Monday, he listed the core characteristics of players who play for the Cleveland Browns:
"Smart guys, tough guys, hard workers, fiercely competitive, selfless. Football is truly important to them. They’d play if they weren’t getting a bunch of money. They live football."
That's better than the time last season where he rattled about 50 more traits.
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My opinion of Mangini is slowing turning around. Thanks Holmgren.
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
by Andrew Tolliver on May 12, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
I think my favorite part of this is Mangini in a suit. Has he ever been in front of media with anything nicer than a polo? He’s def. looking quite dapper in that picture.
Holmgren imposed a new dress code on the staff.
by TheDriveStillHurts on May 12, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And how about that haircut, and those improved hand gestures, the way he’s speaking.
I think Mangini is really coming around, fellas.
I hope he makes jokes like his twin Kevin James.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 12, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The way he treats and talks to the media does not affect my opinion of him.
by Roger Dorn on May 12, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh come on, did you not see the pin he is wearing on the suit? The old Mangini would not have conformed to such high-class behavior.
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by Chris Pokorny on May 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. Bill Belicheck rocks a hoodie but I doubt Patriots’ fans care. Mangini can streak naked as long as he wins.
Thanks for the cringing visual.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 12, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he rocks a Toodie. Or an H – shirt.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 12, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
“I cut off the sleeves cause it looks awesome, now get back out there!”
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 13, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
No it’s, “Now get your head in the game”
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
what is that? Besides a “Toodie” obviously.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
it looks like its from yo gabba gabba or something
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
my buddy just sent me this telling me that his kids are into this show. This is disturbingly weird to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCXZkfvIfhk
I can’t get the d@mn song out of my head now.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
The black dude is weird, no lie.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew what this was before even clicking on it
I laugh every time.
Go Rockies! First and only member of the Manuel Corpas fanclub right here! :/
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by UZ on May 13, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t be happier to hear news like this. Now is the time to figure out what kind of a team this is going to be going forward. Get out in front of the curve.
"Smokescreen."
It’ll be a smart, tough, hard-working, fiercely competitive, selfless team.
Whatever that means.
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
by Andrew Tolliver on May 12, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll be a smart, tough, hard-working, fiercely competitive, selfless team.
This is why he is man-genius: most coaches try to get a dumb, weak, lazy, uncompetitive, selfish team. Mangini — iconoclast that he is — is willing to buck the trend.
by TheDriveStillHurts on May 12, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
say what you will but Mangini turned Romeo’s disjointed bunch into a disciplined football team that could play smart.
Mangini shipped out the malcontents (those guys Mike Singletary would have sent to the locker room) and stressed basic fundamentals like blocking and tackling and disciplined football, you know those things that the Browns were absolutely terrible at under Romeo.
I’m pretty sure we could do a whole lot worse than Mangini.
"Smokescreen."
by jaws. on May 12, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This is true. It may seem obvious to all of us that these traits matter, but past coaches have not emphasized them as much as Mangini has. There’s no way last season’s team finishes as strong under Romeo.
by gahnki on May 12, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Which is why I supported Mangini from the get go. More than anything, even a franchise quarterback, the thing this team has needed since 1999 has been a disciplinarian coach. Someone to teach fundamentals and to hold players responsible for lack of effort.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
More than anything, this franchise has needed a strong front office.
by gahnki on May 13, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
this is it, in 1999 and 2000 we had a Disciplinarian coach in Chris Palmer. Policy fired him because A: the team sucked ass and B: the veterans Policy brought over from the 49ers didn’t like that Palmer ran training camp like he was running a boot camp.
Any great team has to have a cohesive structure from the ownership down to the head coach. The head coach has to have a good system and everyone (above and below him) has to buy into that system and believe it can work.
I think the reason Mangini didn’t get along with some people is because he realized they were incompetent. He realized Tannonbaum’s style would never work well with his own and he realized that George Kokinis apparently wasn’t quite the football man Mangini thought he was. Mangini probably knows that he has good people around him now and now he isn’t trying to grab power from anyone because he has a reasonable expectation that they might do their jobs well.
"Smokescreen."
Policy fired him because A: the team sucked ass and B: the veterans Policy brought over from the 49ers didn’t like that Palmer ran training camp like he was running a boot camp.
I have never heard of any of this before. I don’t think that there was any veteran players good enough to get a coach fired. I think it had more to do with Palmer being in a horrendous situation.
He realized Tannonbaum’s style would never work well with his own
So he got himself fired? Give me a break.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 14, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That disjointed team of Romeo won 11 games.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 12, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And then the largely same team fell apart the next year. Romeo’s teams had a tendency to give in to tough situations.
JUST SAY NO!
Thanks, Nancy.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Over how many seasons?
Heyo!
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
stole my joke.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And a more speedy team.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 12, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how the talking heads are calling it a possible “quarterback controversy” instead of a coach trying to get creative with his play calling.
I think that there should be no need for a qb controversy. If we can just establish the running game throughout the first couple games then the critics will be silenced. Also if we find success with the wildcat and utilize Wallace as much as possible that will silence the qb controversy critics as it should be noted that qb controversies normally follow struggling teams and that would do away with some negative press in cleveland.
I think any further evolution of our flash package based on personnel depends on Cribbs and/or Wallace’s ability to throw the ball. If we put both of them in the game and run…that really isn’t any more surprising than running with Massaquoi and Harrison.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I think the effectiveness should ultimately stem from Wallace’s ability to throw it (according to Holmgren). You could probably run the zone read or the motion counter trey or qb power or whatever you like with Cribbs or any back taking the snap. The possibility with wallace is that his ability to throw could force the other team to cover all the receivers and leave at least one deep safety; which is requisite to maintaining the offense’s numbers advantage in the box. Gotta be able to constrain the defense and keep ’em honest, a la Dan Mullen.
"Smokescreen."
I want Seneca sat on the bench unless it’s absolutely indispensable.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on May 13, 2010 2:49 AM EDT reply actions
Just to see your thoughts, or should I call it strategic suggestions, reiterated, not necessarily reflected this time, here´s a quote:
“…Although Mangini was not perfect in utilizing players last season, he along with Brian Daboll started getting things right by the end of the season by utilizing the best assets on offense as much as possible. Wallace probably shouldn’t have too many reps — after all, if he enters a game, we want to catch the defense by surprise. We also want to establish continuity in the running game, some level of stability with Delhomme, and a way to keep getting Cribbs into the game. That limits Wallace’s chances, but even if it is one play every two to three games, it could be that play that contributes to the Browns winning another ballgame.”
Ok, that done, here´s my suggestion. You field the 11 best players at each position on both sides of the ball, and play to win. If someone sucks or you have a special play, you replace certain players. If you project some kind of catastrophe in a casually causealy linked world, we cede the win and contact the NFL comish secretly."
There were no portrayed astringents regarding the signings of Delhomme and Wallace. McCoy on the other hand was available to us based on promise.
Please don’t make us think THAT hard, Moon.
by Nuclear Power on May 13, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
There were no portrayed astringents regarding the signings of Delhomme and Wallace.
This escape me, but I like the sound of it.
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 14, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite part? The dangling quotation mark at the end of this ambrosia, because he knows he’s giving a quote of the day:
If you project some kind of catastrophe in a casually causealy linked world, we cede the win and contact the NFL comish secretly."
There were no portrayed astringents
?
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
I have an idea for involving Seneca Wallace.
Picture this:
We line him up at Flanker or Wide Out. When the play commences, he does a stutter step then gets back behind the line of scrimmage and positions himself as a potential second quarterback.
I expect to see that. Backwards passes, WR reverse passes, run him out of the Fly (as WR or Freaky) and let him throw or run….. the possibilities are endless.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 14, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions

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