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Browns Sign Six Tryout Players, Roth Requests Trade

The Cleveland Browns signed six of their tryout players to contracts today. The six players are listed below:

  • TE Ryan Moya (UCLA) - 6-1, 230 pounds
  • DL Kwaku Danso (East Carolina) - 6-5, 336 pounds
  • DL Brian Sanford (Temple) - 6-2, 280 pounds
  • DL Martin Tavaseu (Nevada-Las Vegas) - 6-1, 310 pounds
  • DB Matthew Harris (Arkansas) - 6-2, 193 pounds
  • K Leigh Tiffin (Alabama) - 6-0, 209 pounds

Tiffin seems interesting, since he connected on 30 of his 35 field goals last season.

As some of you started discussing earlier, LB Matt Roth has asked for a trade if he doesn't receive a new contract. Is this an effect of so many players taking the front office's handling of the Joshua Cribbs situation as a gesture that they will be handing out new deals left and right?

This seems like a rehash of what's been said on D'Qwell Jackson and Abram Elam already, but some of these guys need to start facing reality. They are playing on a team that has not had a winning culture for awhile, and none of them were even close to being above average players last year. Jackson missed most of the season and you could argue that the linebacker unit got better without him. Elam was healthy throughout the season, but the Browns' secondary was still vulnerable. Roth is probably the highest on my list of our defensive RFA's because he was a monster when the Browns signed him late in the season, but that's all he had -- a few games in a down season.

All of this talk is probably pointless anyway. It would almost be a shock if all of our RFA's did not sign before June 15. Sure, they will have missed out on OTA's, but they aren't going to forfeit the money that is already on the table considering few teams are probably ringing our bell about them anyway.

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Awe, Graham Harrell got sent home again.

Boo.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 17, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Moya is very tiny, plus he only had like 150 yds his senior year

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 17, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

he might have been signed to get reps at fullback

by Bumblyjack on May 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a fan of Leigh Tiffin and anyone named Kwaku.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on May 17, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Kahlua?

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 17, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm…Kahlua…tastes like liquid candy.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 17, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never drank it so wouldn’t know.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 17, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any alcoholic beverage that combines well with coffee cannot be underestimated.

That's just noise.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 17, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on your tastes, that could be a rather large field of candidates. Eliminate ouzo (it’s not bad, but has no business getting near my coffee) and the list is still pretty extensive.

by JustBob on May 18, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right you are. The world is my wet bar!

That's just noise.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 18, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it basically tastes like a mocha frap with a shot of vodka…at least to me. it is a cofee liquor but is very chocolatey too.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never tasted any of that so still wouldn’t know.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 17, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’ve never had a mocha frap?

by emily522 on May 17, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Coffee’s disgusting.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you probably wouldn’t like it then…although to me it is more chocolatey than coffee-like

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 17, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, still not the slightest bit interested.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 17, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats perfectly fine. to each, his own.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 18, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re 19?

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 18, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think SB drinks alcohol, at all

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but the point remains I don’t drink regardless.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do give you props for that my man. Not many can go through college w/out atleast getting wasted one night.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 18, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I commute which makes the process even easier.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice…rec

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 18, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the ultimate test of adversity.

It should be it’s own sport.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t really drink till later in my college career. Mostly because a lot of the people who were drinking at 18 were idiots/made it really unattractive.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hahaha. People are young and stupid. I was too, just in different ways.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 18, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here. I didn’t start drinking until I was in Panama City on spring break my junior year, when I was 20.

by Buckeye Brad on May 18, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A big group of us from college went there 2 years — 2000 and 2001. We rented a house right on the beach and about a mile down from all the party hotels and bars. It was awesome. We had a nice, quiet place to hang out by the water during the day and we could walk down to the parties at night.

by Buckeye Brad on May 18, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. People who drink underage (myself not included) do it because they think it makes them cool and rebellious. At least that’s my opinion.

The funniest thing is is when you look at underage people’s facebook pictures and they deliberately pose with beer cans in their hands as if to say, “Look at me! Look at me! I’m such a rebel.”

by emily522 on May 19, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop it you’re making me feel old. Don’t old worry old people do that same stuff.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 19, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree mostly. I confess I have drank underage but I have not done it to be rebellious. I also do not enjoy getting blackout drunk like many I know.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You all can make fun of me for it, but I wouldn’t drink much cause it tastes nasty. Plus all the other bad stuff

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 20, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It can actually hurt you a lot more from a physical standpoint if you binge drink when you are young vs. when you are of age, so that’s probably a great mindset for you to have. At least for now.

I didn’t really drink anything until I was 21. Don’t let anyone make fun of you for it.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 20, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, anyone making fun of you for it, is probably only drinking and making fun of you because someone made fun of them.

If you want to drink be responsible if you don’t tell them to kiss off.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 20, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

As rufio said, don’t let anyone make fun of you for not drinking. You want to stay away from that stuff in high school; you’ll have plenty of time for drinking in college and when you’re older.

by Buckeye Brad on May 20, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

this, do your own thing TRSS. I started probably my senior year of high school or so. I had plenty of friends that didn’t though and nobody ever gave them a hard time.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 20, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that at 15. When you get older, you will find something you like. No rush.

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anything in moderation (other than heroin, crack and meth) is good for you.

It’s women you want to stay clear of.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Everything in moderation. Including moderation.

That's just noise.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 20, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just what I needed, another excuse to drink.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are wearing your drinking hat.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 20, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

coincidentally, I have a drinking hat!

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

My job here is done.

That's just noise.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 21, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that possible?

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 21, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, I think it tastes disgusting too.

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats actually a good thing. its not the most pleasant taste the first time you taste it.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wasn’t trying to generalize about the rebellious thing. People do it for obvious reasons but for many it seems… actually I honestly don’t know the motivation for it.

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point and I do agree. especially in high school, it is a rebellious thing. in college, it ends up being more of a social thing, though its not at all mandatory and very rarely is there a ton of pressure to drink.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was referring to high schoolers, not people in college.

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah…most people who drink in high school are stupid…at least at my school.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a different experience. then again I went to a high school with relatively few dumb kids, and a lot of smart kids.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here. Or there. Whatever to make that past tense.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drink underage because i think its fun. then again I’ve only ever gotten sick once in my life, and i’ve never blacked out. honestly if the drinking age were lower we would see a lot less binge drinking and a lot more responsible drinking. the problem is that at 19 or 20 i can’t jsut go out to a bar with a few friends and have a few beers. i have to go to a house or apartment once a week where people feel like they have to take advantage of their opportunity to drink.

like the commercials are legally mandated to say, drink responsibly. being drunk can be fun, you just have to know your limits and remember its a social activity.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly if the drinking age were lower we would see a lot less binge drinking and a lot more responsible drinking.

+10000000

It should be 18 imo.

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

being drunk can be fun, you just have to know your limits and remember its a social activity.

I also agree with this. Not that I’m advocating to go get drunk, but as long as you don’t harm anyone or go out and drive, then whatever.

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

this times 1000. I do not find getting really drunk that enjoyable. I will admit I have had a couple nights where I did get blackout drunk…however the next day i had major regrets.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly if the drinking age were lower we would see a lot less binge drinking and a lot more responsible drinking.

untrue. many european countries have no legal drinking age but similar binge drinking and alcoholism rates.

being drunk can be fun, you just have to know your limits and remember its a social activity.

the problem is that kids don’t know their limit because, 1) they don’t have experience drinking and therefore don’t know how their bodies will react, and 2) they haven’t matured. at least those who reach the age of 21 have a better chance of having matured more, although i know there are exceptions. its also been shown that the younger you start drinking, the more prone you are to problem drinking or alcoholism.

i’m a probation officer, you’re not going to sell me on an argument that underage drinking is okay.

by Dawg Nuts on May 20, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you might get assigned to LT here soon

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 20, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

many european countries have no legal drinking age but similar binge drinking and alcoholism rates.

I stand corrected.

I still think if you can die for our country when you’re 18 you should be able to drink, though. But I’ll leave it at that.

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

HUGE REC!
+1000000

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

its okay, i wasn’t trying to ruffle any feathers. you seem to have a decent head on your shoulders for a young person.

i sound so old…

by Dawg Nuts on May 20, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You also probably work with a lot of…not the best of the best?

I would be spewing tons of those slogans and feeling really old too.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 20, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i’m forced to remind myself from time to time that the majority of people are pretty decent and hard-working.

half the time i feel like a babysitter, regardless how old the offender may be.

by Dawg Nuts on May 21, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would not have the patience to do your job. I think I would end up strangling one of my parolee’s

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i’ve been close a few times. but its easier to just taser them.

by Dawg Nuts on May 21, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

HAHA!

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would add that kids that young are also obviously having to get their drinks in when they can which i think also creates an unhealthy drinking environment (that sounds weird) where there is no concern for responsibility and alcohol is just a tool to get wasted. In my opinion if you learn to treat alcohol like that when you’re young you’re going to be in a world of hurt when you’re either in college on your own or out in the world on your own and making your own choices regarding alcohol.

Unfortunately like other things in our society the goal seems to be deny deny deny and then we wind up with uniformed immature teenagers trying to behave like they think adults behave.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 20, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then we wind up with uniformed immature teenagers trying to behave like they think adults behave.

Let’s call this the Mad Dog 20/20 Postulate.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i second that motion

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 20, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAD DOG. If liquor stores were open at 3:15am, I’d be out there buying some right now.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 21, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

untrue. many european countries have no legal drinking age but similar binge drinking and alcoholism rates.

I would like to see your information on this.

a couple quick google searches said the highest in europe was 44% and the third highest was 36%, with most other countries being in the mid 30’s. in america, its 48%. I’d say a 10% decrease in binge drinking is significant.

europe: http://health.yahoo.com/news/afp/euhealthdrinkalcoholpoll_20100421180757.html

america:
http://ncadistore.samhsa.gov/catalog/facts.aspx?topic=159

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly if the drinking age were lower we would see a lot less binge drinking and a lot more responsible drinking.

I think we’d also see that phenomenon with better parents.

A lot of the kids at school out here are of the “Mommy and Daddy never paid attention to me and I am wealthy and now I am at school so I am going to try to emulate Paris Hilton” variety.

At OSU “My parents never let me do anything, now its time to go nuts” was a little more common.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 20, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

all you have to do to see the psychological factor at work is look at prohibition. drinking went up during prohibition, probably because the illegality of it made it exciting. thats what we see with america’s youth.

I also think it’s age discrimination. According to the government you are a full citizen at 18. why, then, do i not have all the rights of an adult?

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Roaring Twenties were also a very poor time to try the experiment.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on May 20, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drink underage, not because it looks cool, but because that’s just what we do when I’m hanging out with friends. But believe what you will.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on May 20, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i know it wasn’t the intention, but i was a little offended at the generalization that all people who drink in high school were doing it to be cool or rebellious. maybe we did it for the same reason college kids and other young adults do it, because its fun.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. I agree. I rarely drink by myself and rarely did it because it was taboo. In fact my dad had very loose rules about drinking

a) if you drink, DON’T DRIVE

b) If you drove, then drank, Call me.

c) I don’t care if you drink, smoke, or do any sort of drugs, just don’t bring it into the house.

when I was a teen, my dad told me stories of stuff he did, not as a suggestion, but just to point out that it would be hypocritical for him to oppose it. He trusted that I would be responsible and I never drank and drove.

Maybe it doesn’t have appeal to me as something taboo because it never really was in my house.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I had said that everyone I knew in HS who drank. Not everyone in HS that drinks ever.

My apologies if I failed to say that.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 21, 2010 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you’re saying you found that Mad Dog?

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

this…i remember countless days of sitting around campfires during the summer or on weekends having some brews during high school. I don’t think we did it to be rebellious and we certainly were not stupid.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize if I offended you. Same with you, StuckInPA.

by emily522 on May 21, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drank underage because it was goddamn fun.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bingo!

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should rephrase this:

It seems like the people that I’ve encountered who drink underage do it because they think it makes them look cool and so they can feel like they’re rebelling.

And again, sorry for offending anybody. I should’ve been more careful in my wording when I typed something like that.

by emily522 on May 21, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

My school’s private and has a strict policy on stuff like this. Not even kidding: if you go to a party where there’s alcohol and they find out (& can prove it), you’re expelled. Even if you didn’t take a sip.

So many of the people who do it are the “popular” kids who think they’re awesome for being so rebellious.

by emily522 on May 21, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. private schools are like that. I know someone who came to my public school because the situation (even the not taking a sip) happened to him.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 21, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to a relatively small public school, about 600 students total (150 per class for the less math inclined). the school didn’t really care about drinking. if they could prove you drank at a party, you might get a couple detentions. If you were on a sports team, however, you got suspended for 25% of the season, but that might be an ohio thing, not necessarily school specific.

cliques were almost non-existent. sure, everybody had their specific group of friends, but everybody hung out with everybody, and that carried over to parties.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 22, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

My school’s super clique-y. It’s ridiculous.

by emily522 on May 22, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to Ignatius, so I know what your’re talking about. I never drank in HS, and don’t feel like I missed out on anything.

And kudos to you for realizing that the group “awesomeness” mentality is, essentially, retarded.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 22, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, everyone tells me I’m missing the college experience by commuting. No, what I’m doing is not killing myself and sustaining myself with a job.

Responsibility FTW!

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right on, bro. Your not missing out on anything. I’ve been to many a college parties back in the day. They’re nothing special. There’s a time to have fun AFTER you get your shit together. It’s called weekends. Like the saying goes…. Do what you have to do today so you can relax tomorrow.

Who will be my role model, now that my role model is gone?

by Brownie's Year on May 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

I am actually going from dorm college to commuter for next year and the only thing I feel i will be missing is less clubs to get involved with at this new school. college parties are overrated and all the same. I totally agree.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 23, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. This is what I am going to start doing. I am transferring over to CSU for next semester.

A lot of the college experience is honestly overrated IMO. The best part of the college experience is hanging out with friends on campus or doing club stuff, but you don’t miss out on that as a commuter usually. I am going to miss buffalo, but mostly I am going to miss my friends, the clubs I was in, and just chilling. The parties…meh.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 23, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brilliant!

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!

"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"

by Andrew Tolliver on May 18, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dude does not abide.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 17, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

be careful man, there’s a beverage here.

by Dawg Nuts on May 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s players realizing that they are on a less than stellar team that quite possibly might be lining itself up for a bright future. I think they are hoping that they can get a good contract due to the lower talent level on the team. I think Delhomme’s contract is more to blame than Cribbs.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 17, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Delhomme’s contract is not a whole lot for a starting QB.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m referring to the fact that we gave him a deal and a starting position after his recent performances. I think some of the guys are looking to get good contracts based off of their perceptions of Delhomme’s deal. While some might see it as a hope that a once competent QB can return to some measure of his past, I think the players see it as a signing of a less than stellar replacement player, which in my opinion is how the team probably views alot of those guys.

I just don’t think they’re sitting at home realistically comparing themselves and what they did last year to what Cribbs did.

Also, on some level I think these guys have an idea that they could be replaceable and are looking to test the FO and see just how replaceable they are. I guess we’ll all find out soon enough.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 18, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the money Derek Anderson signed for the Cardinals with to come in and be a backup.

by Roger Dorn on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think these guys’ desire for a long-term deal has less to do with the “we’ve earned it” and more to do with “I should have already hit free agency and received a $5million signing bonus”

Delhomme took a pay cut to stop playing with the Panthers and start playing with us.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, they can. It doesn’t cost them anything to ask and none of them are likely to get cut before the 15 June deadline, so why not? It doesn’t hurt to ask.

by JustBob on May 18, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they can have an excuse to sit out OTAs as well.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 19, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know that skip had two good D Lineman down at ECU but I haven’t heard anything about this one.

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 18, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

He is 336 lbs. and an undrafted rookie.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not trying to sound rude, but so?

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 18, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’ve heard about him. Huge, undrafted, rookie.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is also a 28 year old undrafted rookie.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 18, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t like the stance some people seem to be taking with these RFAs. “Who needs ’em?” Well considering they are some of our best LBs, I’d say the Browns need them.

by King Tony on May 18, 2010 3:58 AM EDT reply actions  

The general attitude is more: they have no leverage whatsoever so just wait until June 15 and they’ll have to sign their tenders. The worst that can happen is they sit out the year in which case they’re right back to where they started. They can either sign a tender or retire. Not much of a choice.

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by danvail on May 18, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, don’t they get to hit FA if they sit out the year?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure it’s like the year never happened and the contract is unaffected right?

Unpaid and a year isn’t taken off their contract.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they don’t play by November 1, then there years accumulated is void and it’s as if the year never happened.

by Roger Dorn on May 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So these guys have absolutely no leverage.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 18, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nada.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because they might be our best linebackers, does that mean we should overpay them when they have no leverage?

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on May 18, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Tiffin has a real shot at being this teams kicker.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 18, 2010 4:08 AM EDT reply actions  

He certainly looked good in college. Great accuracy

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 18, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, swing and a miss buddy.

You suck at predictions.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe this will be Dawson’s second hold-out.

Add in that he missed 5 games last season with that, and I have no issue with bringing in a new kicker.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not what I meant.

I think Tiffin has a real shot at being this teams kicker.

He just got cut.

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 18, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

they signed him only to immediately cut him? why?

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 18, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the Browns have signed Shaun Suisham.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suisham is terrible though

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 18, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would prefer a youngster, like Tiffin, myself.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 19, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am willing to trust the coach’s judgment with kickers.

by Roger Dorn on May 19, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

terrible? he isn’t particularly great but I would say he is at least decent. why is he so terrible (though I do prefer tiffin)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 19, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

we shoulda signed Nooge.

"Smokescreen."

by jaws. on May 19, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously???

what has Nugent EVER done. Look at the kicking stats. Suisham has been a better kicker throughout his career. Noodge had one solid season (his second) then fell off the map.

I bet you, if Nugent wasn’t an OSU guy, you wouldn’t be saying this…Neither one is that superior over the other, though suisham has a bit better stats in every kicking category. The only thing Noodge is good at doing is the easy kicks. after 40 yards, he is pretty bad and after 50 yards, just close your eyes and pray. He is phil dawson without the accuracy.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not true.

He was a great singer/songwriter
He has a great show on the outdoor channel
He is very entertaining to watch as well

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

THAT nugent? yeah, he is awesome. It is hard to have a bad thing to say about him…

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno, he’s a pretty racist, sexist bigot. he also threatened to shoot the president over health care.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats true…

I doubt he was being serious about the healthcare thing, but still…

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? about the president? suprised the secret service didn’t take him out. that is not something to joke about when your as big a celebrity as he is. (not to mention knows how to hunt)

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 20, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wrong, it wasn’t about health care. it was before the election. he told obama to “suck on [his] machine gun,” while holding an actual machine gun on stage.

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/ted-nugent-threatens-hilary-clinton-barack-obama/11416/

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was a little “off”, but that just proves my point. You can’t say stuff like that.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. I think I have seen some outrageous political commentary of this sort at almost every concert I have ever attended. I am seeing Pearl Jam tomorrow and I expect something of this sort from Vedder.

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt Vedder threatens violence against anyone though.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

From wiki:
“The band made news when it was reported that several fans left after Vedder had “impaled” the Bush mask on his mic stand at the band’s Denver, Colorado show."

While not a direct threat, I think Pearl Jam and many other bands have probably done similar things.

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the message there is “I would like to see george bush dead.” not “I am going to use this machine gun that I am holding right now to murder the president myself.” there is a big difference between wishingharm on someone and threatening harm on someone.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the same thing. Trying to get a reaction out of a crowd. Neither is a big deal.

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying its a big deal, just trying to show it isn’t particularly hard to find a bad thing to say about him, as was originally posited.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 20, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you mean. I wasn’t implying that he doesn’t have his faults, which he definitely does. I was more just saying it in a joking manner that he is a cool dude who plays good music.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let us know how the PJ show is.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 21, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will do, pretty pumped for it.

by Roger Dorn on May 21, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are people at my school who think this guy’s awesome.

Welcome to South Carolina!

by emily522 on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nugent is very funny and has some really good songs.

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a roommate freshman year who LOVED ted nugent.

He was really conservative, he used the N word all the time (after checking to make sure no dark people were around, of course), and he was really in to “being a man” and “hot chicks”. He was bigoted in every way imaginable.

But he had never lifted weights in his life, he hated football and almost all sports, I am pretty sure he got his nails done routinely, he giggled like a schoolgirl, and he wouldn’t drink beer so he drank wine coolers (because of course, being a man means getting drunk). He also refused to stand up and fight me “like a man” after he called me a jap.

That’s my Ted Nugent fan experience.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 20, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a pretty good summary of most all Nugent fans.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, you’re of Asian decent?

"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."

by SpecialBrownie on May 20, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems pretty decent to me. Not sure what that has to do with being Asian though?

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was probably referencing how rufio’s roommate called him a “jap”

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

bross, just don’t respond to golanbatrac anymore. His subtle jokes are killing you.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on May 20, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it now that I gave it a second look. I thought golan was questioning whether rufio was asian and why it was relevant…I think I misunderstood what he said completely (whether serious or a joke)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The word decent is not descent. Go back and look at the series of posts now, starting with SB’s.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on May 20, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t clue him in, I like watching golan dangle the thread over his head.

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s cruel, RD. And, I agree, sometimes quite entertaining.

That's just noise.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 21, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

gahnki…no need to be a dick.

I get it now that I gave it a second look

did this clue you in as to my understanding of the joke? well if not, I guess I have to say again, I read it again and I understood it.

The word decent is not descent

this is either

a) irrelevant

b) you being a condescending dick.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 21, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude he was explaining it to you.

Relax. No need to fly off the handle at the one person who was helping you.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 21, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 21, 2010 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

well…I already told him I understood it and the way he said it, it sounded kinda condescending..

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 21, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh… as the World of DBN turns.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i think the most hilarious thing about all of this is that you claimed at one point that you were attempting to become an improv comedian, yet you are often the very last person, literally, to get the jokes on here.

that, my friend, is comedy gold.

by Dawg Nuts on May 21, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a comedian, they want you to do other things besides comedy. Write us a script. Act in this sitcom." They want me to do shit that’s related to comedy, but it’s not comedy, man. It’s as though if I was a cook, and I worked my ass off to become a really good cook, and they said "alright you’re a cook… can you farm?

getting a joke on the internet and performing and learning improvisational comedy are pretty unrelated and do not take similar skills.

I get jokes face to face, I just understand a lot and learn a lot from people by their facial expressions and tone, which plays a big factor into improv…

and people also misconstrue improv as “whose line” where they are just constantly making jokes. that is one type, short form, because the scenes are short. I personally like long form which lets you develop a story, characters, and more emotions. it relies less on the (albeit fun) “cheap gags” and more on developing characters on the spot and truly creating scenes out of nothing.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 21, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is throughout this thread you’ve been developing a story?

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 21, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

good one…

but not really.

I am not as honed as some other people I know. I am not always in improv mode and am rarely in that mode when posting on here.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 21, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Priceless.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 21, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not trying to be a “dick” at all. I was trying to explain it to you because I inferred that you still did not understand after this statement:

I think I misunderstood what he said completely (whether serious or a joke)

The joke had nothing to do with his manner of saying it, it was just a word play.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on May 21, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah…sorry…it felt like the way you said it was condescending. maybe I saw stuff that wasn’t there.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a good one. I feel for you and your freshman year.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 20, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two Words: Damn Yankees.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 20, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you ever watched him?

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on May 19, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he isn’t bad. He has some consistency issues but he is not a “terrible” kicker. I would consider him maybe a bit below league average.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 20, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know this isn’t Browns related, but has anybody here looked at the WVU blog on here (Smoking Musket)? I am very disappointed. Nobody really posts on it and just about every front page image is just beer and scantily clothed women. Doesn’t say much for our fans.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 18, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

just about every front page image is just beer and scantily clothed women

do you realize what you just complained about?

by Dawg Nuts on May 18, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry momentarily lapse of judgment there

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 18, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bet you’re going to the beer free zone in the stadium next year!

by BuenosAires_Dawg on May 20, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are many times in morgantown that I don’t even make into the game. Man, I love tailgating

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to go to a WVU-Louisville game, my only fear is that I wouldn’t make it out alive

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on May 20, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate you. Go root for PITT

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

/sarc

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would be good coming into Motown, we don’t mess with Louisville fans too much. (If that’s what your referring to) Its the PITT fans we hate

You would also be good coming to Motown if you are meaning that you may not have any memory of what transpired while you were there. The flashes in between are always fun that you can remember. Good stories to tell anyways.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

it took me a minute to sort out which “Motown” you were talking about. I’m feeling slow today.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 21, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn’t really think about people out of the area…pretty much what everyone calls it here in WV

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 21, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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