Oakland Raiders release JaMarcus Russell - ESPN

well we all knew it was coming I think

about 2 years ago Kimble_79 43 comments 0 recs |

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Can we all thank Al Davis for drafting Jamarcus? Seriously, had he taken Calvin Johnson — as I believe most others in the Raiders wanted to do — the Browns would have taken Jamarcus (I don’t think Detroit would take him), and not Joe Thomas.

Savage was in love with the guy. I think he even tried to trade up with the Raiders to get him, but Al wouldn’t do it.

"We’re going to be kicking ourselves if we lose Beau Bell."

by TheDriveStillHurts on May 6, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

I really want to believe that was an elaborate smokescreen.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 6, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions

This is false.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on May 7, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m not sure if we know that. There were stories that Savage loved Russell and thought about trading up to get him. Of course, we don’t know if that’s true but we also can’t be sure that it’s false.

by Buckeye Brad on May 7, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions

I remember that draft, nearly everyone was saying he was the #1 pick and it was a good one. It is hard to fault the Raiders for this pick.

by holmes213 on May 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

If a guy busts, you can fault the team for drafting him. There is no way of knowing what every team thought of the player, only what the media said. In short, I don’t care what the media consensus was.

by Roger Dorn on May 7, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions

No, plenty of people were concerned about JaMarcus Russell before the draft. He had a big arm but there was plenty of worry about his work ethic and overall knowledge of the game.

by Buckeye Brad on May 7, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Seriously kwoog? Do you deny that if Jamarcus had fallen to us, we would have taken him? Of course, we would have. Savage loved him. Of course, Savage was not alone but the point of my comment was that we are lucky that we did not draft this guy.

You’re beginning to become a parody of yourself. Your willingness to rewrite history for Savage is really something. I think we are going to start hearing things like this from you:

“Comrade Savage had nothing to do with trading for Corey Williams. Comrade Savage did not trade for Beau Bell and Martin Rucker.” Along with airbrushed pictures showing Mangini in Savage’s place with Bell & Rucker on draft day.

"We’re going to be kicking ourselves if we lose Beau Bell."

by TheDriveStillHurts on May 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions

kwoog works for the Minitruth of Phil Savage.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

by bross09 on May 8, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think you should reconsider your righteous didactic style. It only works for very few people who actually have the machinery behind the curtain.

by joeee on May 7, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s funny, because kwoog once claimed that I had “no intellectual integrity” because I made a statement without explaining myself, which is the exact same thing he’s doing there.

by Buckeye Brad on May 7, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

And many other places.

by Simmsinns on May 7, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Survey-course undergrad talk.

by joeee on May 8, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

This is false.

by gahnki on May 7, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not sure why the article is so pessimistic on him getting another shot — wouldn’t he be essentially free with the Raiders picking up most of the tab?

Tribe fan trapped in Kansas

by Avindian on May 6, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

Depends what the market is for him. My bet is he’ll latch on somewhere like Buffalo for two years, $6M.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 6, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions

6 million dollars?!?!? Yeah right. Not. Gonna. Happen. He’ll be lucky to find someone to sign him for one year at the league minimum. Go research what happened to Leaf’s career after leaving the Chargers.

"We’re going to be kicking ourselves if we lose Beau Bell."

by TheDriveStillHurts on May 7, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions

We’ll see.

Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle

by danvail on May 10, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow. $39 million. Is that what they mean by the price of failure?

by JustBob on May 6, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions

wish I could work for a few years and make 39mil

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions

the word work being used loosely

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on May 6, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

ha…true. pisses me off, I won’t even come close to making that in my lifetime and this guy doesn’t even put an effort into it and gets that. Who said life is fair though.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions

It isn’t, but if you don’t think it can be, I feel bad for you.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on May 7, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions

uuhh – what?

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 7, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Life should be fair, and people should embrace that view. The fact that currently it’s not is something to overcome in society, not a reason to accept gross inequities (“who said life is fair though”).

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on May 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Life will never be fair. Joe Q hits the lottery, while Joe X has his family killed in a car accident. Jane X gets married and has kids, while Jane Q cannot for health problems. Its just the nature of, well, nature.

However, I do believe that life is all in how you take it though. I’m not rich by any means, but I’m happy with where I am. I’m doing well for myself, married to a good woman, ect.. I think this is more a life philosophy view that one has than anything else.

That said, I was only being sarcastic above.

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on May 7, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Life isn’t fair, and it will never be fair, and there is absolutely nothing we can do to overcome it. So it’s much better to realize that then to have unrealistic expectations.

by Buckeye Brad on May 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

but just because it isn’t fair doesn’t mean we can’t make it better. sure, because of things like random chance it can never be completely fair. but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to make it as fair as possible.

I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.

by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Societies work to make things more fair, but don’t always do so effectively or really know how to make things fair.

by Roger Dorn on May 11, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Man lacks the ability to accurately gauge fairness.

by gahnki on May 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions

And when people do attempt to gauge such things, either as individuals or as societies, they often come to very different conclusions as to just what is and isn’t fair.

That's just noise.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 11, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions