Around the Pound (5/9): Hardesty Makes an Impact, Edwards' Scholarship Fund, and More Browns News
by Chris Pokorny on May 9, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
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In today's edition of Around the Pound, Terry Pluto has some more comments on the Cleveland Browns' rookie minicamp, a former Browns receivers supports local students with scholarships, and a quick look at the tight end the team signed earlier in the week.
Montario Hardesty Among the Impressive at Rookie Minicamp
The player that Pluto was quick to highlight in his Sunday column was RB Montario Hardesty. As far as why Hardesty looked impressive, Pluto had this to say:
Hardesty grabbed onto the offensive concepts. He impressed when it was time to draw up plays on the board. He also was in good shape, ran hard and showed more than power -- a quick first step and an ability to make sharp cuts. The Browns believe he can step in and combine with Jerome Harrison to give them an excellent 1-2 combination, with Peyton Hillis also in the mix as a short-yardage back.
Pluto also summarized his thoughts on the rest of the running backs on the roster: there is no way that FB Lawrence Vickers' job is in danger, Chris Jennings and James Davis can see this as a message that the team wanted to upgrade their talent at running back, and the team also wants to be stacked at running back given their lack of threat at quarterback.
Some other notes from Pluto's column...
- First-round pick Joe Haden has also been impressive. Along with CB Sheldon Brown, the two will bring a lot more competition to the Browns' cornerback position which should help push Eric Wright and Brandon McDonald to become better players rather than feeling they are "entitled" to their positions.
- Pluto made sure to state that it's probably too early to start making these projections, but Larry Asante looked as if he could push T.J. Ward for playing time this season.
- The general review on Colt McCoy was positive too, as he was accurate with his passes and did not fumble a snap in any of his three days.
Brief Word on TE Alex Smith
A few days ago, the Browns signed former Tampa Bay Buccaneers TE Alex Smith. Some of you were asking, "who the heck is that?", but I definitely remembered who he was because of QB Alex Smith. The quarterback was a first-round pick, and yet all of a sudden in Week 1 of the tight end's rookie season, he caught two touchdowns from QB Brian Griese en route to a victory over the Minnesota Vikings. Ever since then, Smith's name stuck with me.
He faced the Browns once during his career. That came in the 2006 season, when he caught 4 passes for 45 yards in Week 16. The Browns lost the game 22-7, where Derek Anderson was an impressive 10-of-27 for 123 yards and 4 interceptions. It never gets old to throw a dig at Anderson in here.
As far as his roster odds, I think it'll come down to Robert Royal vs. Alex Smith, with Royal having the advantage right now. Royal has proven to be a pretty good run blocker, so Smith will have to show that he is a good enough run blocker, coupled with his already decent ability to catch the ball. Ben Watson is a lock, and I'd like to think Evan Moore is a lock, but in reality that could be far from the truth.
Massaquoi Offers Support to Browns Receivers
A piece is coming up soon about the Browns receivers after Eric Mangini noted the team will consider bringing in a veteran receiver, but for now, WR Mohamed Massaquoi is confident in the group:
"If you just came and saw us work, seen how much we've grown, I think that question would be answered by itself," Massaquoi said. "[Robiskie's] primed for a good year. I'm primed for a breakout year. Stuckey's been working hard. Josh is still going to be the dynamic player that he is."
Massaquoi notes the struggles last year (two rookies, Edwards leaving, Stuckey's sudden arrival, instability at quarterback) versus having a much more stable looking plan this season as a reason to have confidence.
The Braylon Edwards Scholarship
This will probably be the first (and last) positive news piece you'll see regarding Braylon Edwards since he departure from the Browns. Part of his scholarship program that commenced when he was a member of the Browns continues to make an impact:
Nine Cleveland high school students celebrated earning $10,000 each for college Saturday thanks to football star Braylon Edwards.
The scholarships were giving away at the The 3rd Annual Braylon Edwards Foundation Advance 100 Awards Banquet, held at Cuyahoga Community College.
The event celebrates those Cleveland Metropolitan School District high school juniors who continue in the program started several years ago by Braylon Edwards, formerly of the Cleveland Browns, who donated $1 million for college scholarships.
Off-Beat Notes
- How euphoric was that to watch the Cleveland Cavaliers just completely dominate the Boston Celtics on the road from the get-go? Considering the competition that Boston is supposed to offer, that was certainly one of the best games I have ever seen the Cavaliers play. After not really having any offensive gameplan in Games 1 and 2, we changed that in Game 2. On defense, I also liked that we had our defenders stay underneath the screens while Rondo was dribbling around.
- You can't help but think what an idiot Lawrence Taylor is. If you're comparing troubled athletes, what he did versus what Tiger Woods did don't even compare. Personally, the length of the fuss on Woods in the first place was kind of unwarranted. That's what happens when you have such widespread media coverage today though.
- Any people near the Cleveland/Northeastern Ohio area know that the winds we had on Friday night were pretty darn high. How high? When I went down the street adjacent to mine the following morning, I saw one tree that completely snapped right at its base, and I saw another tree that had half the tree snap from its base.
- The episode of LOST this week had me choked up a little, but I'm more intrigued than ever at the good guys seeking vengeance on Smokey.
- For anyone who has seen Iron Man 2, feel free to leave your (non-spoilerish) reviews in the comments section! Better, worse, or the same quality of the first one?
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the news on hardesty is excellent. i’m feeling pretty good about him; i feel he has the potential to be the steal of this draft. the bit about the quick first step is outstanding. it just feels good this year, like every pick was well thought out and has the potential to help us.
And it seems like most of the picks will get playing time, as opposed to how guys like Maiava, Francies, and Veikune were treated last year. Hardesty is in line to split reps with Harrison, Haden is a lock to see the field at least at nickel back, and between Ward/Asante, one of them will see significant playing time at safety.
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by Chris Pokorny on May 9, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he was referring to Romeo never ever ever ever playing rookies?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Romeo did nothing, absolutely nothing, right. I am convinced that if every single decision he made was completely reversed, he’d have had a better record. It’s very safe to assume that many of the rookies he didn’t play were good, and the wholesale lack of development from a single player under his tutelage points towards some very good rookies being ruined by him.
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But wouldn’t some of those players have gone to another team and played well if it was all Romeo’s fault? We’ve seen plenty of examples of players underforming for one team then playing much better when he goes to another team (so you can’t just say that Romeo ruined them for the rest of their careers; if they had talent then another team would pick them up and give them a chance to play).
by Buckeye Brad on May 11, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
but this point of view implicates phil savage
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
This is basically the point I have tried to make before. It would be one thing if Browns were leaving and finding success elsewhere. I cannot think of one example where we really screwed up letting a guy go.
I think Shaun O’hara was the last good player we let get away.
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by golanbatrac on May 11, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Expensive free agent contract though which makes it more understandable. You could argue Jeff Faine was a dumb trade and way too hasty.
it was a bit of a gamble, but at the time it made sense. If Bentley doesn’t blow up that trade looks decent.
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by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a a poor decision.
We started Joe Andruzzi at guard. We could have moved Bentley or Faine over to guard.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 11, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
but at the time faine sucked, thats why we got bentley in the first place.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
yes. but neither henry or O’Hara were gotten rid of during the savage/crennel era.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
yes. I was not implying either you or Danvail said that. I was just pointing out that these moves where players were successful were before crennel…and this conversation started about crennel really. Just trying to tie everything together.
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Romeo did nothing, absolutely nothing, right.
Dumb statement. For someone so interested in “intellectual integrity,” I would expect an avoidance of absolutes.
What’s with the drive-by false-ings? I mean, if you could point and carve that in stone with your finger maybe then I’d be impressed.
by Western Reserve on May 11, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Iron man 2
Saw it, not as good as the first. The first hour was a snoozefest before the action began and when the action finally did take off it was not too impressive. I would wait to rent it if I could do it all over again. Just my opinion.
GO BROWNS!
Iron Man 2 was pretty weak. The pacing was off and the showdowns with the antagonist were short/underwhelming.
by The Licensed Pessimist on May 9, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
We still have some room on the Montario bandwagon, but seats are filling up fast.
I hope I am wrong, but I have this feeling that TJ Ward is never going to amount to anything. Just a feeling.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 9, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think the Assassin will over take him fairly quickly.
Also, can DB’s have numbers under 10?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The natural positions for Ward and Asante are FS and SS, respectively. If not some time this year, expect these two to be the starting safeties in 2011. This is exactly why both were drafted and they will be given every chance to succeed.
by theotherJimBrown on May 9, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Just filled up sorry, I booked the last one.
Have fun eating microwavable plastic in Coach… I’m eating steak.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Bross isn’t even allowed on the flight.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is moon sitting?
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He is piloting the all FB offense bandwagon.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Hardesty could fit in as a hybrid FB.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not as worried as you about Ward, I think only injuries prevent him from seeing the field. I do think Assassin will get his share of PT.
I am looking at the last few games from this past season right now…if Asante can be a more talented version of Mike Adams our secondary can be awesome. Poteat and Furrey were clearly our weak spots (as most would probably assume), and I think it would be a disappointment if we haven’t already upgraded over both of them and McDonald.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Prior to the draft, I had replied on numerous Browns sites that they should draft him.
Can I be president of the bandwagon?
by theotherJimBrown on May 9, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree about Ward. Being a good FS has a lot more to do with just hitting hard, but that seems to be the only he has going for him. He’s a poor man’s Taylor Mays
by The Licensed Pessimist on May 9, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You can can’t me off this bandwagon. I like him, but I think Harrison is the real star, and I’ve been saying it since 2008.
Agreed. RB selection seems like such a crap shoot. There are many RB’s with Hardesty’s skill set who’ve failed, and random late round picks without physical gift’s who’ve came on their team and made an impact. Not saying any of that reflects his chance at success, but I’ll take actual NFL production in Harrison.
by The Licensed Pessimist on May 9, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t say it’s a crapshoot because it doesn’t have that high of a bust rate.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wanna hop on the TJ Anti-bandwagon with me?
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if he had played for Notre Dame you would like him more? Aren’t you a Broncos or Panthers fan yet TRSS?
by BrownsFanRegina on May 9, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, let’s all root against our rookies.
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by StuckInPa on May 9, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Notice you said our.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This is another example of what I was talking about. Coming to a team’s board to intentionally antagonize.
Does it surprise you? If he’s going to constantly be an ass just ignore him. Sorry for swearing BB, but it’s the only word that fits here.
Kill them. Kill them all.
K peace
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
We respect differing opinions. I have no problem that you don’t think Ward will turn into much. It’s the way you go about it right now.
You, rufio and Bernie can email me at slimshady@blackvoices.com if you wish
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 11, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you have an email account at a web site called blackvoices.com?
by Bernie19Kosar on May 11, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Slimshady plus blacvoices – dumb play on words
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 11, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a terrible, terrible pun.
Just GTFO. Anyone who makes a pun that terrible should be banned from DBN. Wow.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 11, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya i know
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 11, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a long time ago and I’m too lazy to make a new one.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 12, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to say, my first green comment makes me feel pretty good. Especially after the raise.
Kill them. Kill them all.
by StuckInPa on May 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Have another one, it’s on the house.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 13, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Take it easy, I thought you all could see the sarcasm.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you seem to suck at sarcasm lately.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Seemed like a joke to me, playing off of the bandwagon idea up above. I’ve seen way worse and don’t understand why it seems to be jump on TRSS week.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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by Villeslgr on May 11, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What happened to the other 4?
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 11, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I never know if you’re serious. It seems every comment you make is supposed to be sarcastic, so you’re taken serious every time. Like bross just makes dumb comments, yours always just seem dickish, even though you’re just being sarcastic. You just come across like an ass, sorry if that’s not what you’re going for.
Kill them. Kill them all.
Are u the Louisville fan here (please don’t delete)
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 11, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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I met Coach Strong today
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 12, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome. Excited about him?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
After Kragthorpe I would be excited about Moon coming to be the head coach!
But yes, I am very excited about Strong. He has recruited very well so far and I’m ready to see him make UofL actually look like a football team again.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 13, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you from Louisville? I missed out on previous conversations, or is that your other college team?
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I’m from Kentucky, but not Louisville, and yes, I’m definitely a Louisville fan
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 14, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked you before Ville, but thoughts of Brian Brohm keep going thru my head. I’m not sure I can continue to keep you on my good side.
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Don’t even get me started on WVU…
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 12, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Even after 2005?
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I wonder if Browns coaches are not too concerned about adding veteran receivers because tight end has become a strength. Watson has the speed, size and hands to create mismatches as a receiver, and we have four other tight ends who could rotate in a more traditional tight end role. Apparently Hardesty has pass catching skills as well. The receiving corps may not be so thin after all.
tight end has become a strength
Seriously?!? Maybe — maybe — we are good enough at tight end, but a strength? I think you need to look up the definition of strength. Ben Watson is a decent pass-catching tight end — he ain’t K2. After that, we have . . . Evan Moore. He definitely had some flashes. Alex Smith? Robert Royal? To call tight end a strength is a joke. A freaking joke.
by TheDriveStillHurts on May 9, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I am expecting big things from Watson. I don’t know if they will show up in the stat sheet. Alex Smith is a pretty good #2 TE, IMO, and Moore is the “wildcard”. We are lightyears ahead at TE of where we were last year. That isn’t saying a whole lot, but we should look a lot better at that position.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I would call it a strength relative to, say WR or QB, but I agree that it’s not one of the best units in the league. Still, you underrate Alex Smith and Ben Watson both.
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A relative strength to WR or QB — that might not be saying much.
by Western Reserve on May 10, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Iron Man 2 had better villains than the original ,terrorists and Obadiah Stane do not compare to Mickey Rouke’s portrayal of Whiplash and Sam Rockwell is really funny as Stark’s competitor.
Plus, how can anyone not love War Machine?!
It was witty, action-packed, entertaining, and funny…all of the things that made the first film great, but minus all the origin stuff.
Anyone who thinks that this movie was off, also probably thinks that X-Men: Last Stand was a good movie too.
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I haven’t seen the movie yet, but War Machine was awful in comic form. Marvel really should stay away from anything that had it’s origin in the 90’s boom (except for Carnage. A sick-ass, blood and gore, x-rated spidey flick could be awesome).
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War Machine was an orgy of disaster. Everyone who wore the suit basically died or became crippled. I’m pretty sure Carnage was going to be the 4th installment but now that there’s a reboot, you might have to wait four more movies again. I personally hope they don’t re – do Doc Oc, that one was less than desirable. Carnage is cool because he’s Venom’s weird, love sick baby. And Toxin is also cool but less known because he’s a crime fighter.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
oh. I don’t think i heard about that reboot. I was really looking forward to someone like Carnage…carnage was a sick (in more ways than one) villain.
Doc Oc was cool, but they did not do it well in the movie. Personally, I think he is cool, but doesn’t translate as well to the movie form.
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I guess you never read the U.S. War Machine trade.
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Carnage is a terrible excuse for a Spidey villain and just a wannabe Venom copy.
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…Carnage literally is a Venom copy dude. Duh.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. That’s why he’s lame. Duh.
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Carnage is awesome. Duh.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s Venom rendered without restraint. Full on blood and gore. He’s the signpost that marks the exact date when a) Marvel ran out of ideas, and b) Marvel said “to hell with the kids, let’s sell our books to the flabby middle-aged cellar-dwelling fanboys who’ll buy twelve copies of anything we produce”. He’s the tombstone atop the cape and tights genre, and as such, should be celebrated.
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Comic geek does not equal computer nerd.
There are differences dude.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Read: “Shutup, stupidhead!”
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by danvail on May 10, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. Mickey Rourke was great and Scarlett Johansen/Samuel L. were nice additions also. And I like Don Cheadle better than Terrence Howard- he sounds less whiney.
Overall, there is more plot than fighting in this one versus the last one, but I don’t completely consider that a bad thing. Maybe slightly less good than the first, but still a witty and entertaining movie.
I completely agree that Cheadle was better than Howard and Marvel has already announced that they will proceed with a third installment that will probably start filming after the Avengers film.
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Also, forgot to mention. Can’t remember who I was discussing this with re: Delhomme’s contract, but Grossi’s mailbag today featured a question asking the details about Delhomme’s contract. Grossi mentioned that his thought was that Jake had a fully guaranteed signing bonus of 6 million which would be paid this year, but his base salary in both year 1 and 2 is just above the league minimum for a player with his experience.
Huge. Smart. I think I want to keep him both years anyway.
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Hardesty could be the starter some time this season.
It’s good to see Mass with that confidence. He’s taking the leader role as he should.
FRINGE!!!!! That last episode was AWESOME!!! Peter’s real father, Walter from the other dimension, totally showed up to bring Peter to his real home. Things are popin’ off!
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I tried watching that Fringe show this year.
I had no freaking idea what was going on even with my buddy trying to explain it.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 9, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t start from the beginning you’re screwed.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…with most of J.J. Abrams’ shows that is true…Lost, Fringe, even Alias was a bit confusing if you didn’t see it from the beginning. I think some of the better shows are like that…because all the episodes link together…like the Sopranos.
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I can see how it would be confusing. There is really only a few things you need to know. If you start at the beginning of a season you should be ok.
This is why I don’t watch LOST. I watched one episode with my Limey bro-in-law during the 3rd or 4th season and felt like an idiot. Had no clue what was happening. I saw some black mass ghost type thing and was like "WTF is that? I’m done!".
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by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Limey bro-in-law
what is this, the 19th century? I haven’t heard of that being used since the 1880s.
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bross and BY, I deleted that entire thread because there were too many swear words and other offensive words. Let’s stop the personal attacks — both of you.
by Buckeye Brad on May 10, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
thats perfectly okay…
just to clarify though
Let’s stop the personal attacks —both of you. BY
I know as moderator you have to be the peacekeeper. However, during this whole thing, I tried my darndest to avoid personal attacks.
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LOL You were the one who started it. That comment is still lingering up there. Just because me and that other guy completely burned you, doesn’t make you the lil’ kitty cat in the corner. You started running your mouth and got knocked out. We all saw it.
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by Brownie's Year on May 10, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL You were the one who started it
wow. first of all, way to be mature.
second, I started it by pointing out that limey is an outdated word…plus it is pejorative slang that would be insulting to many who are british.
Just because me and that other guy completely burned you
wow…you always seem to have an interesting view of history. you burned me SOOO BAAD!
You started running your mouth and got knocked out
not really. Chain of events:
-you use questionable perjorative slang
-I point out how it is outdated, in an attempt to later point out how it was unnecessary and possibly inappropriate
-you go back to your best friend. Mr. Ad Hominem. Instead of facing the issue of the word limey, you then attack me for not knowing what it is, making suppositions that not only did I look that up but that I look everything up.
-like every debate, instead of debating the issue, you feel it is completely necessary to attack and falsely denigrate my intelligence based on no evidence at hand and only your vast suppositions.
really, it was you that was running your mouth…not like its the first time you have gotten into something with me or someone else here and just started attacking them out of the blue.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
You really find "Limey" that offensive? You must not know anyone from England. My sister married a Brit and his family became my family. Them and I have had this discussion. They’re Limeys to us and we’re Wankers to them. It’s all good. How do you think I know the true definition of Limey? From my family.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 10, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously, bross . . . what that really necessary?
by Buckeye Brad on May 10, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
possibly not…but was it necessary to falsely say that I was slinging all sorts of personal attacks?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
STFU.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You called him an a-hole so don’t tell me that I falsley accused you of anything.
You need to learn when to stop. Don’t make me tell you again or I’m going to get really upset.
by Buckeye Brad on May 10, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hate to even ask, but who is this?
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
I don’t know if anyone ever clicks: “More photos >>” on the images. Well, I did and saw this.
And though of this:
by Simmsinns on May 9, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Weak.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmgren looks like he is playing amazing purple nurple defense.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 9, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those of you interested in seeing a movie, please go see Kick-Ass! It’s ten times the movie that Iron Man 2 is. It’s sad to see not doing well in box office despite being easily the best movie to come out so far this year.
Kick-Ass is a must see. It’s an incredible movie, with all the elements. Keeps you on the edge of your seat and laughing the whole time. There’s a not single part of the film where it slows down, or is uninteresting. Easily the best “super-hero” film since the Dark Knight.
I heard it sucked. Like straight sucked. I don’t like the use of guns in it. If they were nerds being superheroes, that’s cool. But nerd superheroes using guns? Completely stupid.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t suck. It’s widely accepted as awesome by most people who see it. Of course it’s all opinion, and if 5% of people who actually see it, don’t like it than that’s fine for them. But most people who see this movie find it a fantastic comedy / action movie, because it is.
If you don’t like “use of guns” in movies, I feel very bad for you. Some of the best movies of all time have vast use of guns. (i.e. Pulp Fiction, The Departed, Saving Private Ryan, Goodfellas, Gran Torino, The Boondock Saints, Reservoir Dogs, Full Metal Jacket.)
Goodfellas is the only movie on that list that’s anything to write home about. Pulp Fiction is Tarrantino’s fourth best flick; The Departed is good, not great; Saving Private Ryan is flat-out awful; Gran Torino was good, but nowhere near as good as Unforgiven or The Bridges of Madison County; Boondock Saints is worse than Private Ryan; Reservoir Dogs is Tarrantino’s third best flick; and Full Metal Jacket is the worst movie Kubrick ever made.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I think this may be your most offensive post ever.
That is saying something.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 9, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
+4
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Mostly agree with your post, except I like the Departed more than you. Kill Bill is my favorite Tarantino movie, not sure how you are ranking them.
I like The Departed a good bit, just not to the degree where I’d consider it as one of the ‘best movies of all time’.
I’d rank QTs films as follows:
1. Jackie Brown / Inglorious Basterds (tie)
3. Reservoir Dogs
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Kill Bill (vols. 1 & 2)
6. Death Proof Car
The Kill Bill movies are probably a bit better than my estimation of them, but I don’t know which movie I’d bump to move them up the list.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Personally, I thought Reservoir Dogs and Pulp fiction had much better scripts and were more interesting to me than Jackie brown. You know what, I want to vote for the movie where Nazi’s die, and it was one of his better movies, but I just can’t put it up there…and btw, I am jewish and loved that movie…
I would put Pulp, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Basterds (close behind brown) and Kill Bill (close behind basterds).
Either way, I still think tarantino does a lot of good movies.
I do like the departed but agree to an extent. i think it is one of the better movies of its type this past decade, but history it is not great…it is good, but not up there with goodfellas, etc..
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I thought Inglorious Bastards one of the worst movies I have ever seen.
But don’t put too much stock in that, I think Quentin Tarentino is a complete hack.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This is my opinion on QT.
Good dialog? A crap load of talking for the sake of talking doesn’t make it great dialog to me.
I believe that most people think QT is great, because he is the “cool” director (not saying this is the case with you). If you don’t think QT is walking, talking, film perfection you are somehow an idiot or you “don’t understand his greatness”.
What I do understand is the fact that every time I watch one of his movies, I want to light myself on fire an hour in. The worst part about this is that I really like parts of his movies.
Why does he have to have eleventy billion characters and story lines in every movie? We are talking about 90-120 minutes here. I don’t have time, nor the want, to learn 45 different people. Why not develop 5-6 great characters?
Kill Bill was a car wreck. It should have been one movie.
Wanted to set myself on fire during From Duck ’til Dawn
Wanted to set myself on fire during Hero
Wanted to set myself on fire during Natural Born Killers
Wanted to set myself on fire during True Romance
Wanted to set myself on fire during the 15 minutes I watched of Grindhouse/what ever the hell the other movie was
Didn’t see Jackie Brown.
The one that really pisses me off was Inglorious Bastards. After the opening scene I was expecting a war movie about Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz. Instead I get some half assed movie that somehow has rewritten history. Freaking Brilliant. The two best characters in the movie were cut off at the knees. It could have been a really cool movie. Instead it was a complete waste of time.
If you dig QT, cool. But for me, I have never walked out of one of his movies and said “that was worth it”.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand how you may not like his stuff…and really everyone has their own opinion.
If you don’t think QT is walking, talking, film perfection you are somehow an idiot or you "don’t understand his greatness".
yes, this is the attitude of many tarrantino fans. I do not believe everything he touches turns to gold. I do however like some of his earlier movies a lot (resevoir dogs, pulp fiction).
Tarantino’s style does not appease everyone. I do not even think this in a condescending way. I can see how someone can dislike his films too.
Some people may think he walks on water, but he just doesn’t. very few directors do, or even come up with a great movie every time. I will admit my favorite directors, the coen brothers, have come up with some stinkers. the only guy where I can say they never had a “terrible” film was Kubrick (though I wasn’t a fan of eyes wide shut).
that attitude annoys me too…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
The movies you wanted to set yourself on fire for were not directed by Tarantino. He actually had little to nothing to do with Hero other than purchasing and distributing the movie in the US.
And he hates Natural Born Killers. There’s very little left of his script in the final cut of the film.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
From Duck ’til Dawn
Zombie waterfowl?
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Pulp Fiction is Tarrantino’s fourth best flick
Reservoir Dogs is Tarrantino’s third best flick
I wonder which of his films you think are better? I really liked Basterds but nowhere near that much.
Saving Private Ryan is flat-out awful
what about it? The unique story? the great characters? the most accurate movie portrayal of WWII done in hollywood?
Gran Torino was good, but nowhere near as good as Unforgiven or The Bridges of Madison County
a) I disagree about Madison country…completely.
b) unforgiven was brilliant.
I guess by this theory, there is no point in watching Heat or Ronin (both great movies) because De niro was better in goodfellas and raging bull. Yes, Unforgiven is better, but Gran Torino was a great eastwood flick.
I do agree with you on boondock saints though…
I thought full metal jacket was brilliant. It delves into the minds and psyche’s of soldiers. It definitely wasn’t his worst film though. I couldn’t stand Eyes Wide Shut…and just b/c everything he does is brilliant doesn’t mean a movie is terrible b/c it isn’t his best.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
“Stay off my lawn”
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
by Kimble_79 on May 9, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I went 30 mins in to that Inglorious Basterds movie and turned it off. Waste of money.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll agree the first 30min is really dull, but it does get better after that if you can force yourself thru the intial dull part.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
I don’t know what any of you are talking about… the bit with Liev Schreiber that opened IB was fantastic!
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
The beginning and the bar scene were the best parts.
Agree.
Hated the end.
Disagree.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I loved all of it. But don’t put it even close to either of Pulp Fiction (the second greatest movie of all time, IMO, behind only Fight Club) or Reservoir Dogs.
I think Shawshank Redemption is the greatest movie of all time. two and three are the Bill and Ted movies, in any order. The Godfather has also got to be up there.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Shawshank Redemption is up there for me for sure, it’s an incredible movie. But personal tastes have Pulp Fiction, Fight Club and probably The Departed as my top 3.
The Departed above The Godfather, or even Goodfellas?
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
???
I love the departed, more than many…but seriously? besides you, pretty much the consensus opinion is that Goodfellas is much better and may be Scorcese’s greatest movie. public opinion is not always 100% right, but there is something to be said if everyone independently shares the same opinion.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
public opinion is not always 100% right
In this case, it cannot be right or wrong. It’s a matter of opinion, and I loved them both, a lot. But I’m sticking with The Departed.
yep. I agree. you are entitled to your opinion and movies really are just opinion. I might not agree about the departed, but I understand where you are coming from…i just don’t agree, though I don’t object to you having that opinion.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
The Usual Suspects is an okay movie, but it wouldn’t even make my top 1000.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I can already tell from your previous infamous post that we have very different tastes in movies, so I’m certain my top 100 would look quite different from yours.
Not going to lie, my favorite movie is Titanic.
I took a film class this semester. It was fun, except I hated the westerns we watched.
That’s good because your taste in movies is a giant, sinking ship.
Just kidding, of course.
by Western Reserve on May 11, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Anyone else have “Rochelle, Rochelle” at the top of their list?
by Bernie19Kosar on May 11, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
kramer: helloo, welcome to Movie phone. If you know the name of the movie you’d like to see, press 1.
- george: come on, come on.
- kramer: using your touch-tone keypad, please enter the first three letters of the movie title, now ……… You’ve selected … Agent Zero? If that’s correct, press 1.
- george: what?!
- kramer: ah, you’ve selected … Brown-Eyed Girl? If this is correct, press 1 …….. Why don’t you just tell me the name of the movie you’ve selected?!
- george: Chunnel?
- kramer: to find the theater nearest you, please enter your 5 digit zip-code, now…
(george enters his zip code)
- kramer: ……. Why don’t you just tell me where you want to see the movie?
.
Probably my favorite moment in the entire series.
by gahnki on May 11, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, it’s definitely up there near the top.
by Buckeye Brad on May 11, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
WHEN SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BLOW YOU UP – NOT BECAUSE OF WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YO DO, BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS ALL TOGETHER
Actively seeking inspiration for a new handle
by danvail on May 12, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you! I was trying to think of that line last night but couldn’t remember the first part exactly.
by Buckeye Brad on May 12, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh . . . a story about an erotic journey from Milan to Minsk.
by Buckeye Brad on May 11, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it starts off slow, but definitely pays off. its a long movie. resevoir dogs wasn’t an extremely faced paced movie either…(another tarrantino flick)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Maybe I should give it another try.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder which of his films you think are better? I really liked Basterds but nowhere near that much.
See above.
what about it? The unique story? the great characters? the most accurate movie portrayal of WWII done in hollywood?
Remember when they were going to shoot that German soldier who had surrendered and the translator guy talked them out of it. And then later that same German soldier stabs the Jewish soldier. And then later that same German soldier surrenders again, to the translator, and the translator shoots him while he is unarmed and has his hands in the air? Remember all of that? Ten years later Dick Cheney would make the same argument that Spielberg makes here to excuse extraordinary rendition and the torture of prisoners, and to justify the suspension of habeus corpus and the gutting of the Geneva conventions.
Though technically dazzling (especially the first 30 or so minutes), SPR is ultimately little more than a modern day Leni Riefenstahl film. Genre porn masquerading as a celebration of the ‘greatest generation’. As propaganda it’s a first rate example, but to call it a great film is to ignore the content of the film.
a) I disagree about Madison country…completely.
It’s probably Eastwood’s best film.
b) unforgiven was brilliant.
It too is probably Eastwood’s best film.
I guess by this theory, there is no point in watching Heat or Ronin (both great movies) because De niro was better in goodfellas and raging bull. Yes, Unforgiven is better, but Gran Torino was a great eastwood flick
Ummm… I’m talking about films that Eastwood directed. You’re talking about films that DeNiro acted in. There’s a difference.
To say that GT wasn’t as good as Unforgiven or TBoMC isn’t to say that it’s no good (clearly it is a good flick). But in a discussion of the ‘best movies of all time’, to say that it’s, at best, the third best film Eastwood has made is to pretty much eliminate it from the conversation.
I do agree with you on boondock saints though…
Awful movie. Two hours of my life that I’ll never get back.
I thought full metal jacket was brilliant. It delves into the minds and psyche’s of soldiers. It definitely wasn’t his worst film though. I couldn’t stand Eyes Wide Shut…and just b/c everything he does is brilliant doesn’t mean a movie is terrible b/c it isn’t his best.
Meh (though I never said that it was terrible, just that Kubrick has made, what, a dozen better films).
And don’t sell Eyes Wide Shut short. It’s his most personal film, and the culmination of everything he did from A Clockwork Orange on. Watch it again, only watch it as if it were a David Lynch film. It’s the synthesis of all of the themes in his earlier work. Kubrick’s id on full display.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Ten years later Dick Cheney would make the same argument that Spielberg makes here to excuse extraordinary rendition and the torture of prisoners, and to justify the suspension of habeus corpus and the gutting of the Geneva conventions.
this is a terrible argument to say a movie is bad.
As propaganda it’s a first rate example, but to call it a great film is to ignore the content of the film.
I go into movies with an objective mind, however I didn’t find propoganda in SPR. I thought the content was very good.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on Bridges of Madison country, Eyes Wide Shut, and Full Metal Jacket.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
this is a terrible argument to say a movie is bad.
Criticizing a film’s content is verboten? What makes it a great film then? Spielberg makes the case for the inhumane treatment of POWs in SPR. He states clearly that the only possible answer to violence is violence; that no matter how low the enemy goes, we should lower ourselves to that level and are justified in doing so. This is explicitly stated in SPR. That Cheney & Co. a decade later would use the same argument to excuse and justify what should rightfully be war crimes is just icing on the cake.
Spielberg goes on to link pacifism (as represented by the translator) to the Holocaust (the death of the Jewish soldier at the hands of the German soldier). Pacifism is an implicit cause of the holocaust in SPR.
The only way you can call SPR a great film is either to ignore the content of the film altogether, or to be in agreement with the content as presented. I sincerely hope that it’s the former, because you have to be a pretty horrible human being to be in agreement with the latter.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
He states clearly that the only possible answer to violence is violence; that no matter how low the enemy goes, we should lower ourselves to that level and are justified in doing so
when does he do this?
Cheney & Co. a decade later would use the same argument to excuse and justify what should rightfully be war crimes is just icing on the cake.
pretty irrelevant to the movie IMO…unless they explicitly referenced the movie. a similar scenario would saying jesus condoned the crusades because the people killed in his name…totally irrelevant scenarios…
Spielberg goes on to link pacifism (as represented by the translator) to the Holocaust (the death of the Jewish soldier at the hands of the German soldier). Pacifism is an implicit cause of the holocaust in SPR.
again…jumping to conclusions much???
you should check out the scrotie mcboogerballs episode of south park…it seriously sounds like you have overanalyzed this more than anyone in history and found things that just aren’t there.
Every film is not a masters level english class. not every single thing in movies is a message, allegory, or symbol.
honestly, either you are smarter than the rest of the human population which hasn’t come to the same conclusions as you or you have overanalyzed this movie ad nauseum.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
when does he do this?
I’ve explained it twice now.
pretty irrelevant to the movie IMO…unless they explicitly referenced the movie. a similar scenario would saying jesus condoned the crusades because the people killed in his name…totally irrelevant scenarios…
Again, that Cheney would make the same argument that Spielberg makes is not the basis of my criticism. That Spielberg would make that argument in the first place is what is being criticized.
again…jumping to conclusions much???
It’s all there on screen. Being observant is not the same as jumping to conclusions.
you should check out the scrotie mcboogerballs episode of south park…it seriously sounds like you have overanalyzed this more than anyone in history and found things that just aren’t there.
Every film is not a masters level english class. not every single thing in movies is a message, allegory, or symbol.
honestly, either you are smarter than the rest of the human population which hasn’t come to the same conclusions as you or you have overanalyzed this movie ad nauseum.
You should read up on some of the reaction to SPR. My view of the film is far from unique.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That Spielberg would make that argument in the first place is what is being criticized
Fair enough. I can agree with that.
It’s all there on screen. Being observant is not the same as jumping to conclusions.
At the same time, I watched that movie with an observant eye and came up with different conclusions and couldn’t really see at first where you got yours.
You should read up on some of the reaction to SPR. My view of the film is far from unique.
you may be right in this regard, but I couldn’t find any all that easily.
Also, just a final point. many people can see something a bit different in a movie and I can respect that. I guess now you have explained it more, I do understand more where you are coming from and what you see, I just don’t agree and don’t personally see these things in the movie. I don’t think that makes either of us right or wrong…both are really just an opinion. In the realm of movies, I do not see there being a defined right and wrong.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I think this analysis is fascinating and well done. The scenes with the German POW are high drama for the audience, but I think we can also rightly assume Spielberg is smart enough to understand the significance of that presentation. (If this is mere storytelling, then Spielberg isn’t nearly as smart as we all think he probably is.) At the same time, Spielberg is capturing some of the worst of war, including what amounts to a war crime.
I sincerely hope that it’s the former, because you have to be a pretty horrible human being to be in agreement with the latter.
This is a pretty broad stroke here; too broad I would say. Pacifism in the face of the Nazi German war machine? I’m not buying it.
by Western Reserve on May 10, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The scenes with the German POW are high drama for the audience, but I think we can also rightly assume Spielberg is smart enough to understand the significance of that presentation. (If this is mere storytelling, then Spielberg isn’t nearly as smart as we all think he probably is.
Exactly. You have to take the film at face value. Spielberg is too skilled a craftsman to give more than a passing consideration to the thought that maybe he somehow lost control of the material. If it’s on screen, you can bet that he intended for it to be on screen.
At the same time, Spielberg is capturing some of the worst of war, including what amounts to a war crime.
I don’t think you can make excuses for Spielberg by claiming that he’s trying to capture the brutal realities of war (if that’s what you’re getting at here) any more than you can downgrade a film like Inglorious Basterds or The Thin Red Line because it’s ‘made up’.
To quote Todd Solondz Storytelling script: “Once you start writing, it ALL becomes fiction.”
This is a pretty broad stroke here; too broad I would say. Pacifism in the face of the Nazi German war machine? I’m not buying it.
Pacifist might be a misnomer. I was using ’pacifist as shorthand for the character of the translator as presented on screen.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think you can make excuses for Spielberg by claiming that he’s trying to capture the brutal realities of war
so he is a terrible person if he wants to portray this? from what I got of it, he is neither condemning or condoning killing german POWs but just pointing it out there that it happened and you have to make the judgements for yourself if you would do it or not. I do not believe that this severely detracts from it…just like I do not believe the scene where Captain Spiers shoots prisoners in Band of Brothers detracts from it.
I think the key message being sent is “War is Hell”
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Saving Private Ryan is my favorite movie. I died a lil’ when you said that. :(’’’’’’’’
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my favorites as well.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
But I didn’t think it was as good as Black Hawk Down.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I was talking about the use of guns with teenagers who are supposed to be portraying nerds in costumes to an otherwise young audience. I don’t see the correlation between guns and their characters
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This is NOT a film for young audiences! DO NOT take anyone who is not mature enough to accept violence to this film. It is rated R for a reason. This is NOT a kids movie. Please don’t take 10 year olds or younger to this film expecting a Spider-Man like movie.
This movie was intended for adults, and it entertains that market.
I meant young as in pre – teen to adult.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You haven’t even seen the movie. How can you judge it? Don’t sit there and talk about it as if you have.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey you. Shush.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 9, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I havent seen it. And based on comercials, I probably won’t.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, its advertising doesn’t do it any favors. whoever was in control of marketing for that needs to be fired.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember last year when Robiskie was praised in the first mincamps but Massaoquoi started outperforming him and had a much better season? That’s how I picture Ward and Asante, with Asante being the Massoquoi in this situation.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions
Wait, wasn’t Pluto praising Asante? So wouldn’t that make him Robiskie in this situation? You think Asante has the good season?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Please don’t make this more complicated than it is. I just think Asante will be better even though it seems like more people like Ward at the moment.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I thought you meant, but it didn’t fit the analogy.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Ok then just forget the whole d’’m thing
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 11, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Lovely. I dropped the A’s pitching staff two days ago in my Fantasy League.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
And I have no idea why I just capitalized ‘fantasy league’.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Capitalization is ok when using a title.
Go A’s.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything Dealing With Fantasy Football Should Be Capitalized.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
How About Final Fantasy?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like the new one that just came out.
Yep, I am a FF nerd.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
FF blows.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
VII!?!?!?!?
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most overrated game of all time.
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by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
not to say it isn’t good, but its not the masterpiece its made out to be
I also have a bias towards western RPGs
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by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it was just my age when it came out, but its in my discussion for best video game ever.
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No, worst.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
again, two hugely overrated games. don’t get me wrong, GTA 4 was great, the best in the series, but any game that forces you to do that much boring stuff between the fun isn’t the greatest game ever.
MGS 4 is great if you have played all the other MGS games, but it doesn’t stand on its own.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what you found boring in GTA. Sure, there is boring stuff, but that is by choice, it doesn’t get in the way of the real fun, which is progressing the story, which is extremely engaging. I’ve never had a video game pull me into the story like that. I felt like I was Nico Bellic, I actually felt for characters in the game. (Minor Spoiler Alert) When they took Nico’s cousin, I was legitimately angry at those responsible, and was ready to burn there sh*t down to the ground. THAT is exactly what I want from a video game.
MGS 4 can stand on it’s own, and it does. I’ve only played the first Metal Gear Solid on the old PSone, before trying MGS 4. And the memories were faint. I still thoroughly enjoyed it because it’s an absolutely incredible game. Ground breaking even. There’s a point in that game where you are literally exhausted for a particular reason due to the action the Character is trying to pull off, that I won’t go into detail about. It’s not annoying however, it fits perfectly. If I played through it again I could make a massive on things this game knocks out of the park.
But I can take your comment with a grain of salt knowing it comes from some one with The Elder Scrolls III, AoE 2, and Skate in is top 5 of all time. I’m sure you’ll do the same. We have completely different tastes. But still, that list just seems like a very strange list for best of all time.
I like rolling hookers and taking their cashish.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 12, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
thats the best part of the game.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Right? You get your pleasure AND your cash. I love wrecking into the innocent public.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 12, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I like rolling hookers and taking their cashish.
Best out of context comment I’ve read today.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
why is this not green btw?
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
GTA 4 couldn’t decide whether it wanted to be gritty and dark or fun and over the top like the previous games. I hear people rave about the story, but i felt it was predictable and full of holes.
MSG 4 was better than GTA, but i still feel like it was too in love with itself. I get that it was trying to tie up all the loose ends from previous games, but i still found it too self-referential.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
and my list isn’t any stranger than GTA IV or MGS 4 being the best game ever.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is mine:
1. FFVII. Played the hell out of this game. Wasted enough time to kill all the weapons. Massive amounts of time.
2. Modern Warfare. Could not stop playing this game online. Massive amounts of time wasted. (Sense a theme?)
3. Madden 2004. The best football game ever played. Room mates and I played it consistently. The week where we all took a team from the NFC East and did franchises was epic.
4. Suikoden. Another RPG classic that was freaking sweet.
5. Oregon Trail. Yeah, I said it.
Thank you all for letting me be a nerd.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 11, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, when Halo: Reach comes out, it might top my charts. Halo: CE is at the top right now. Such a classic.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
the first Halo game is the best of the series, for sure.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The first Suikoden is unreal. I loved that game so much I recruited all 108 people.
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since i’ve been dishing out a lot of hate i should probably put out my favorites.
1. Morrowind. better than oblivion in every way except the casting system. much better story, environment, and character progression. with the gigantic mod community the fun never stops. new mods are still posted daily.
2. Age of Empires 2. i played the hell out of this. very balanced, more diverse than other RTSs out there. forces you to focus on economy as well as combat.
3. Knights of the Old Republic. My favorite video game story ever. easily the best Star Wars game I’ve ever played, and to a SW nerd that means a lot.
4. Skate. best skateboarding game. when the THPS series was getting more and more arcade style the down to earth nature of Skate was a breath of fresh air.
5. Mass Effect series. this is a cop out, i know. neither game belongs on this list individually, but taken together, they do. I feel less bad putting them here because the second game can be looked at as a direct continuation of the first, with your save carrying over and everything.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
you could say that Starcraft is the best RTS out there…the argument can be made. I do however like AOE better.
I disagree though on Knights of the Old Republic. Wasn’t in love with the gameplay. never really liked the storyline all that much.
but overall, not a bad list.
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SC is easily the best, there is no argument to made for AOE being a better game. You’re of course free to like it better, though.
The DragonAge games are pretty cool.
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I liked dragon age a lot, but in the end i guess i just feel like i’m overloaded on traditional fantasy. there wasn’t a ton new brought to dragon age. still elves and dwarves and all the prototypical classes.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think starcraft is the best but I also haven’t played AOE for ages…
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star craft is just a slaughterfest. like i said in my original post, AOE forces you to build and manage your economy, starcraft does not. I actually liked Warcraft 3 better than star craft.
That said, the 3 are probably tied, and which one comes out on top is a matter of personal preference.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…Like I said, I haven’t played AOE for a while and also have a place in my heart for starcraft. I would probably like AOE better honestly but I need to get a copy.
I also liked Command and Conquer which was a lot like Starcraft but in a way, even less strategy and economy managing.
personally, my favorite is Civilization, however that is turn based and not a RTS game. That game is the penultimate game with managing an economy and just controlling cities and such.
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I love the Civ series. Just started playing the Colonization version of Civ4. Quite engrossing.
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I prefer the combat heaviness of SC over a more reserved approach. I also hated the limited size of armies in War3.
One more series worth mentioning is the Total Annihilation and it’s successor Supreme Commander.
THAT is a slugfest. Epically large fights.
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man its been a while since there has been a great RTS. and yes Civ 4 rules.
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by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta be careful, Civilization: call to power sucked, but that was after the studio split.
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by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite RPGs:
1. Xenogears (psone)
The best RPG ever. Ridiculously deep gameplay. The only game I ever made money on (bought for $45 dollars, sold on ebay 5 years later for $110).
2. FF II (SNES)
The best of the FF series. I played the hell out of this game. It’s a lot like FFIII, only shorter and more linear.
3. DragonWarrior (NES)
Short and sweet. Can be finished in a couple of afternoons. The first videogame RPG I ever played. For a level 22 nerd who spent much of the 80’s rolling dice and drawing dungeon maps on graph paper, this game was the shit.
4. Final Fantasy Legend (GB)
Another short and sweet RPG. All the FF goodness without any of the filler.
5. Shenmue (Dreamcast)
This game is all filler. A skinner box inside of a skinner box. Still it was beautiful to look at and loads of fun to play.
Of course this entire list changes if you stretch the term RPG to include the Zelda games.
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Shenmue was horrible. Maybe I’m biased since I played it when I was young and it required a lot for a young mind to comprehend
by The Licensed Pessimist on May 12, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Xenogears really worth that much?
I stopped playing it because I think I messed up my save. That card game was cool.
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Also, ever played Shining Force for Sega?
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No. Is it a good one? It’s apparently available on the Wii Virtual Console.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
these are all before my time, and as i said earlier, i’m just not a huge fan of JRPGs.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Japanese style RPG.
turn based combat, usually pretty linear.
the FF series are all good examples of JRPGs while something like Neverwinter Nights or the Elder Scrolls series are prototypical western RPGs.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t figure what the J was. I prefer the linear style RPGs myself.
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Interactive RPG for me. Where the story changes to you, not in a predetermind story line.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this…that way you can play it different every time.
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exactly. i love the infinite replayability of western RPGs. I’ve had dozens of different types of characters in morrowind over literally hundreds of hours. never a dull moment.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he best linear RPG I ever played was Siberia for Xbox.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never even heard of that. some research is in order.
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by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Morrowind. better than oblivion in every way except the casting system. much better story, environment, and character progression. with the gigantic mod community the fun never stops. new mods are still posted daily
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I am not a big video game guy- haven’t touched one in a year and a half- but Morrowind sucked the life out of me. I was so obsessed with that game that all I could think about was going back to Morrowind. Much darker than Oblivion and much more engrossing. It doesn’t have much competition as, again, I’m not a big video game player, but I find it hard to imagine that there’s a better game out there.
Dude, When I played Morrowind it was done. Oblivion was nice because of the controls and graphics of course but Morrowind was just so much more extensive. It also had more glitches. I love Morrowind.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 12, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Oblivion ate my summer last year, can’t even think about buying anything like that again. Between football and that, I’d never see the outdoors.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
if you liked oblivion you owe it to yourself to get morrowind. you can get the game of the year edition which comes with both expansions for like $20. of course, you could get it all for free too…
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
on a Mac? I wouldn’t even consider that as being possible.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
ah, i see. it came out for the original xbox, but its a far lesser experience on a console. you ever consider installing a partition and loading windows? i don’t mean just for morrowind either.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I always played Morrowind and Oblivion on Xbox. It was still pretty epic.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i did originally, but then i lost my morrowind disk and bought the pc version. i couldn’t go back. The mods just make it too much fun.
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by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oblivion was nice, the story was too easy but of course, the game is still vastly unsolved even when the story is done. You must play Morrowind. That is #2 on my list behind H:CE.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I still haven’t gotten to the story in Oblivion. Trying to level up in the correct way first. Also joining all the guilds.
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thats the most fun way to go about it imo. I never thought it was much fun to abuse the levelling system.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, of course. I never abused it. I’m the leader of all the guilds. I was accidentally kicked out of the thieves and fighter’s for accidentally killing each one respectively in a cave. I got back in though. And the gifts they give you for being leader are epic. Being a Vampire was sweet but after a while, I actually wanted to be out in the sun. I’ve also found most of the elven and medieval castles. I rocked the ebony armour and sword from killing a warrior in one of the elven ruins right outside Imperial city. The armour never failed. I then added strength and invisibility charms to the armour. I was invincible.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I hated being a vampire.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
It was cool to a point. It was a bitch finding the damn gems. I just ended up stealing mine from the Mages guild because I was awesome at lock picking and any thing is allowed to be stolen if you’re part of the guild. I then killed the woman, enchanted the gems, then enchanted my armour. If I ever needed blood, I just sucked the blood from the maid in one of my homes. The mission that sucks is finding all the damn roots for the potion maker. Like 20 plants equals like the smallest bottle of the potion!
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 14, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The nirnroot?
I was trying to find all of those. There are maps online of where they are.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
DAMN NIRNROOT! Of course they grow back after awhile from being picked. I’d randomly find a few behind meadow rocks, I found a few at the pond he tells you to go to. Then I found a crap load walking the whole bank of the moat and river. Also found tons of caves and treasure.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 14, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
man now i gotta go play oblivion again. I’ve never tried being a vampire.
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by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They are all over the place. Mostly near coastlines.
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VII was the last of the FF games that I actually enjoyed. I prefer the older ones (FFII for the SNES being the best of the bunch) and pretty much stick to the game boy for RPGs these days.
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I used to collect original NES stuff for quite some time. I had something like 300+ games and several unopened NES systems. I ended up selling everything on ebay not too long ago. Got a little over a $1000 for everything.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
speaking of game boy RPGs, gotta love the pokemon series.
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by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A bit after my time, but I’ve heard that they’re pretty good.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
if you can block out the massive hype that the cards and tv series had amongst young kids a few years ago, the games are really good. unfortunately, much is lost playing on an emulator, as you can’t trade and timed events don’t occur.
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by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
One time my entire family was dragged to Williamsburg, VA, strictly because my mom wanted to go. We had already been, and my older brother and I were like 13 and 16, so we stayed at the hotel and took turns playing my little brother’s Pokemon on gameboy. It wasn’t bad.
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I liked III on SNES, I don’t know if I ever played II. I didn’t own an SNES until like 97.
SNES had some awesome RPGs.
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you can get them now for the GameBoy. I think II is now called IV and III is called V to bring them into line with the Japanese numbering.
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Chrono Trigger?
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I’m not sure if I’ve played that one or not. I know I didn’t play it on the SNES, but I’m pretty sure I played FF Chronicles, which is the same game, I think.
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by golanbatrac on May 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It was money on SNES. I also feel like I loved Legend of Mana, but it’s been a long time.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
since this was before my time, have you ever played secrets of mana?
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
See my comment above. I mixed up the names of the Manas, but I played the one on SNES.
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I love that our football forum is so full of nerds.
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I have some pretty nerdy tendencies. I was always too jock-y to be a nerd, to nerdy to be a jock, and so on.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Hurray for stereotype busting.
(Deus Ex for me, please.)
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 13, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man that game was awesome. the sequel wasn’t half bad either. did you hear they’re making a third?
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by notthatnoise on May 13, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I did. DE 2 really wasn’t bad – not as good as the original, but it didn’t inspire the hate in me that it did in some. It’ll be interesting to see where they go with the new one.
Of course, I tend to run significantly behind on video card technology, so unless I break down and go crazy, I’ll probably be playing it a year or two after it comes out. Game of the Year Edition?
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 14, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions
man i hope so. I freaking love that game. I also think its coming out for consoles so thats an option if you have one.
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by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
sure this isn’t you SB?
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
I’ve seen his pic. That’s not him.
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by Brownie's Year on May 10, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is the 8’ sword?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
In my pants.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I just knew rufio’s comment was a bad idea.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 10, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m afraid so, DN. If anyone is planning a “Trains and Tunnels” series, that one is probably ill-advised too.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 10, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the new one is awful
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by notthatnoise on May 11, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the new approach.
It needed some new aspects.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 11, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the entire point of turn based combat is that you can be more strategic. why bother with it if you can’t control every party member?
its also incredibly linear, even for a JRPG.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I am only about half way through, I am waiting for the game to open up.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesn’t.
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by notthatnoise on May 12, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I only read the first four words of everyones comments.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey get off my mound!
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 9, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That was freaking cool. Now he can say whatever he wants.
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by Brownie's Year on May 9, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh wait that comment involved a Yankee. Please delete it.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 10, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, thats not allowed.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 10, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a completely different thread.
Let’s not hijack this one also.
Let it go.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I gotta admit – I thought Evan Moore looked great. I hope he gets a fair shot at TE.
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I feel the point in a movie is to entertain me for a couple hours. For this reason, I enjoy most movies. I don’t see a point in picking apart a movie, and what especially bugs the hell out of me is comparing a sequel to its predecessor. I can’t understand why you would expect the same movie.
I thought Iron Man 2 was great. Whether or not you feel you should money on the theater is up to you. I for one love going to the theater to see a movie. It’s a different environment. No way you’re going to have a screen that size in your house, or the volume as loud as it is (I know, duh). It’s like going to a game intstead of watching it at home (ok, so not exactly, but you get my point).
Oh, Kick-Ass was awesome as well. Big Daddy and Hit Girl were great.
One picture is worth 128K words.
I feel the point in a movie is to entertain me for a couple hours. For this reason, I enjoy most movies. I don’t see a point in picking apart a movie….
A completely respectable point of view, IMO. What I think it’s easy to forget is that some people get that same enjoyment out of the ‘picking apart’ process too. A different kind of entertainment, that.
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 10, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If I had like an expansion team, I´d be looking at Evan Moore, Mike Furrey, and maybe even Mohamad Massaquoi eventually if you don´t want them.
Cool, Furrey is the Classic Flanker. What kind of compensation are you imagining?
by mooncamping on May 11, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
“Classic” in that he’d be good in the days before football was integrated?
by Western Reserve on May 11, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Naw, have ye all forgotten about thee Freaky Flanker. A slot-back such as Leonard Weaver, Marshawn Lynch, Steven Jackson or Larry Johnson?
Classic Flanker is a guy like Hines Ward, Robert Royal or Wes Welker, a crafty underneath guy.
Sorry, didn’t realize you were speaking in “moonenclature.”
by Western Reserve on May 12, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I´m not going to look it up. So there.
by mooncamping on May 13, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I’m interested in what might be the name of your expansion team, Moon.
And how many years before they reach the playoffs?
The Saskatchewan Fullbacks
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Amsterdam Asses?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
watch out SB, Lisol’s gonna have a stroke over you confusing countries again. i’m hoping that was your intention.
Amsterdam is in Holland, I know this.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nonetheless
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 10, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Amsterdam is in Holland. Holland is in the Netherlands. Like cleveland is in Ohio, and Ohio is in the US.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Ohio isn’t a country either.
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by golanbatrac on May 10, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yep. neither is holland. holland is to netherlands as Ohio (or maybe more apt the midwest) is to the US.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Yup. Holland is not a counrty. It’s a province.
The Maniac’s here.
by Brownie's Year on May 10, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
…Says a soon – to – be SF trooper.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 11, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure since 1803 or at least when America passed a law not allowing countries to be formed within the boundaries of America.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 11, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I´m half German, or rather full German and full American.
Sure Dakota Krauts or something, we´re not finicky.
Haha, Dakota Krauts — I like that! Although attendance may be an issue in the Dakotas.
by Buckeye Brad on May 12, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Brad, you and moon have come a long way.
by Western Reserve on May 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the sitcom idea. I picture moon being played by Chevy Chase (similar to his character from Community).
by Buckeye Brad on May 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Chevy Chase, Dan Akroyd, Bill Murray, and Ernie Hudson. A different actor for each persona.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
Chevy Chase Harold Ramis, Dan Akroyd, Bill Murray, and Ernie Hudson. A different actor Ghostbuster for each persona.
by Western Reserve on May 13, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I was thinking Bill Murray was mad at Ramis or something. I just remembered everyone was blaming Murray for holding the movie up and I thought it was over a disagreement with Ramis.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
It’s good, but I wouldn’t say great. It can be very funny and entertaining at times but other times it’s just stupid (like almost anything involving their Spanish professor).
by Buckeye Brad on May 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The Spanish teacher can be stupid, but a lot of times I do find him funny. And of course I think the best characters are Abed and Troy. You just don’t get that kind of comedy in other shows.
Of course being younger than you, I presume, we may very well have a different taste in comedy. Where as you think its, stupid, I think it’s hilarious.
Kill them. Kill them all.
Yeah, Abed is a great character.
Just out of curiousity, how old do you think I am?
by Buckeye Brad on May 13, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t know. It was kind of a stupid assumption of me. I think I’ve seen that you mentioned you graduated OSU, so I figure you’re at least 23 or 24, which isn’t really that big a difference. I just kinda assumed I’m one of the younger guys here, which like I said, may be a stupid assumption.
Kill them. Kill them all.
Oh, that’s not a problem. I’m actually 30 so I’m, like, really old!
by Buckeye Brad on May 13, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think there’s a sizeable group of college age posters, a sizeable group of posters in their thirties, and a smattering of folks before, after and in-between.
Fifteen seems to be the bottom end of the ages. I don’t know what the top end is.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 13, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
30 is great isn’t it? I’m rolling over 31 this year, but I feel like I’m 21, only much, much more intelligent.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Must be nice. 19 blows. Car insurance is too expensive and I can’t purchase alcohol.
Kill them. Kill them all.
by StuckInPa on May 13, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I laughed out loud at this. I remember I turned 24 and got married in the same year and my insurance dropped like crazy (so hang in there). You live in PA which sucks even worse on the alcohol thing. I still can’t believe you just can’t drive to a gas station and buy beer there.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
…Dude. 19 does indeed blow. I pay $120 a month for just liability.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, new car? I paid 79 for full coverage because I had a loan. But $120? I think mine’s going down to like 50 now because I paid off my loan.
Kill them. Kill them all.
I have no idea who you guys use, but Allstate has always been good to me. My wife is anal about checking prices often too, and they are consistently the winner.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
I pulled out a $2500 loan.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 14, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m 19 and i can buy alcohol, you just ahve to know where to look :)
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
shady gas station for me.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what you mean; mentally, I still think I’m 23 or 24. Although physically I move like I’m 80 so that sucks.
by Buckeye Brad on May 13, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you gotten to the point yet where you can remember when your parents were your age?
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I was 4 when my dad was 30 and 7 when my mom was that age, so not really.
by Buckeye Brad on May 14, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So you’re saying it gets better? Cause 29 sucks. I was never one for getting smashed but drinking now has almost no effect on me during the course of the evening, but when I wake up i feel like i got slammed by the Ultimate Warrior.
5 billion times.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
by Villeslgr on May 14, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s gotta be Gabe Kaplan as Brad and zombie Andy Kauffman as moon. Call it BJ and the Bear: Deep Space Nine.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Nope. Freaky Flanker and the Moderated Moon in: The Asstastic Adventures.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Disclaimer: Not a Porno…
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If it sounds like a porno, it’s a porno. You just haven’t seen it. Yet.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
by Villeslgr on May 14, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chevy Chase is pleasantly flakey, I wish I had the license to be a space cadet. Maybe more like James Belushi on valium or something to curb the lingolistic nervosa condition.
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
something to curb the lingolistic nervosa condition
I laughed so hard at that one.
by Buckeye Brad on May 14, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes, I get the feeling that you are much, much smarter than us.
by gahnki on May 14, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Ever hear of a spoonerism, bross?
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 14, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yep…and either moon does these every other word deliberately or else…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
A mystery, isn’t it?
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 14, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Put me down for a PSL.
That's just noise.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on May 10, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, his elbow apparantly is and so is his ego, so he’s already halfway there.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I am ready. The nervous, neurotic, abused Cleveland fan in me started to come out the past few days, but its gone now.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
This is pretty much where I am at.
I am bracing for us to win game 6, and then come home and lose in epic fashion.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 13, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone’s acting like it’s impossible for us to win tonight. It’s not impossible. Anything can happen. No one expected this situation unless you were a very hopeful Celtics fan going into this series probably.
…You’re so naive. It’s cute in a sad puppy dog kind of way.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
They were down 4 then blew it.
Heartbreaks are so expected they just hurt less and less now :-/
I’m outta FTS before the trolls start coming!
wow….wonder if Lebron is done in Cleveland? The most dominate player in NBA history and he just can’t seem to get to the big show. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Cav’s fan, but going so far in the playoffs and losing is getting old. Sorry, just the frustration coming out.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
Peace out Mike Brown.
I just feel numb.
And f*ck ESPN for showing a montage of all of our heartbreaks. What the hell is that?
What sucks is that I hate Orlando and Boston. I’m not really a huge fan of any of the teams left.
Kill them. Kill them all.
Maybe they both implode with their suckiness?
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hate Boston. The only team I hate more is the Lakers
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
yes. I hate all boston teams and most boston fans with a burning passion. SCREW THE BRUINS…just had to put it out there. I do hate the lakers too and Stan Van just pisses me off. I hope the suns just win it all…nash is awesome…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
As a Flyers fan, I can’t agree more with “SCREW THE BRUINS.” God I hope game 7 doesn’t turn out like tonight. 2 nights in a row? I can’t handle that.
Disagree with the Suns part. I’m not sure I’ll be watching anymore playoff basketball.
Kill them. Kill them all.
The only team I would like to see win it all is the Suns.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I really wanted Dirk to get a championship, but now i’ll just have to root for Nash
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Rondo the most
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 14, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Kenrick Perkins. Dude acts like he has never fouled another human his entire life.
Same goes for Dwight Howard. He clubs people, throws dirty elbows and then poops his pants when he is whistled.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 14, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec for Dwight pooping his pants.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily for me the guy who was bugging me about this series the whole time wasn’t being a jerk when I texted him and was like “hey it’s my last day of high school tomorrow so say it now b/c i don’t want to deal w/ it tomorrow”.
LeBron or no LeBron: I still will root for the Cavs.
Indeed. A Mo jersey is the best investment you’ll make now.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t care about Defense.
Sorry
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 14, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Says an ND fan…
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 15, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll admit, our defense sucked last year. Bad. Mostly thanks to these two men
#22
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 15, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought you were taking college classes at Clemson. College prep classes?
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
The Boston bandwagon FB statuses are making me puke.
Funny, there were none of those until after game 5.
Fortunately I haven’t seen any of those. If anything the Cavs are the bandwagon to jump on here.
Kill them. Kill them all.
Some of them are legit fans. But when you start proclaiming Rondo’s better than LeBron… really?
Maybe in this series. You can argue that. But overall? Please.
It’s best to avoid FB when your team loses. There’s always a bunch of JAs on it.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
I don’t think I can watch basketball for the rest of the playoffs. Maybe I’ll watch the Suns to see them beat the Lakers, but there is no way in hell I’m watching the Magic-Celtics.
I just want to dig a hole in the ground and cry. I thought this season would be different — we improved our team so much from last year and our depth was so much better. We could play small, play big, whatever we needed to do. All year long Brian Windhorst was talking about how the Cavs are so hard to beat because of their versitility. I can’t believe what happened the last 3 games. it’s shocking. I know I should be used to this by now, after 30 years of this happening over and over again, but every year I get my hopes up and expect this year to be different. This sucks.
by Buckeye Brad on May 14, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The only place I worry about him bolting to is Chicago.
Rose, LBJ and Noah is a better 1-2-3 punch than he would have here.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 14, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think the list goes:
1. Chicago
2. Cleveland/NY
3. Some other team
Maybe I’m reading too many articles, but I just feel like LeBron’s probably gone. I’ll still keep my 60/40 he leaves, but it’s looking a lot worse than that right now :(
Ric Bucher on ESPN radio said today that he doesn’t see how LeBron can leave.
He said that it would have to be a sign and trade, which makes sense if LeBron wants the max amount, and any team willing to trade for LeBron, would have to give up too much for it to make any sense for him to go there.
He made me feel much better. I actually think it is 75/25 he stays.
Other than Chicago, I don’t see where it really makes sense for him.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 14, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is seriously underestimating how much a team should be willing to give up to get the best player in the NBA.
But if a team has to give up too much for LeBron to go, he’ll face the same thing he’s had to in Cleveland: waiting for a supporting cast to be built.
Why go to NY and wait 3 seasons to get a supporting cast when we could contend again next year?
Just wondering, but why hasn’t Phoenix been mentioned for a possible place for him to go?
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 15, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
…Because it’s not.
"Spartans never die Jorge. They're just missing in action."
by SpecialBrownie on May 15, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 15, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Lebron knows he could go to one of these places and do as well as he has been in Cleveland, which is reach the 2nd round or conference finals. I think we need to take a step back and realize that the Cavs aren’t so much better than these other teams now, and if you take Lebron off the team and put him on another it might be almost the same quality team he is going to.
the nets scare me more than they do most other people. Devin Harris, Lopez, and Yi would be pretty appealing.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 15, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
TWill played good at the end of the year
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on May 15, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a good point. The cavs without lebron are probably just as bad as the Knicks to tell you the truth.
by The Licensed Pessimist on May 15, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Cavs-Lebron>>Knicks. the only player that would definitely start on the cavs from the knicks is David Lee…galinari and Wilson chandler likely would not stat but would be key reserves (like hickson)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
probably. if you have a lineup with Jamison at the 4, Galinari would start at the 3. However, as of right now, Hickson>Gallinari. so maybe the lineup is hickson at the 4 and Jamison at the 3. Still, he can definitely start on certain lineups on the cavs.
Wilson Chandler does a lot of the same things as Gallinari (both SF/PF with an outside game but little inside presence) but not as good and isn’t as tall.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Because Lebron knows he could go to one of these places and do as well as he has been in Cleveland
Then why leave?
there aren’t though. I suspect the main reason you’re referring to is going to a bigger market, but LeBron can’t really benefit from that, he’s already a world wide star. this isn’t like CC to the yankees.
Lebron might make a couple million dollars more moving to NY or chicago, but thats pocket change. it doesn’t even make up for the lower contract.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 17, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
You can be a world wide star in Cleveland or you can be a world wide star in NY.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
but LeBron legitimately loves living in Akron, or he wouldn’t have plopped down that uber-mansion.
besides, its not like he can’t go wherever he wants whenever he wants.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 17, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhere i read that he has many people living there. The story (not sure if it was an article on his free agent status, or just a posting about a rumor) said that could be a reason he wouldn’t leave.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
I was not referring to being a worldwide star or earning more money. I am just saying that NYC offers a lot of things that Cleveland doesn’t.
my point is though its not like he can’t just go to NY whenever he wants.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 19, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but during the season his ability to go to NYC would be much more limited than if he was playing in NYC if he truly values that. CC Sabathia was encouraging Lebron after the Knicks-Cavs game telling him how much better it is to play in NY. He’s got people like that in his ear.
CC gets four or more days off at a time. Lebron doesn’t. I don’t want him going out every night during the season.
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on May 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, there are plenty of reasons to leave (and stay). I was responding to this:
Because Lebron knows he could go to one of these places and do as well as he has been in Cleveland, which is reach the 2nd round or conference finals.
So, I asked, why bother leaving then? If he went to a team like the Knicks, it’d probably take longer for him to even reach that round again. In Cleveland, the team could be back there next season.
I’m not quite sure what you mean by “lateral move”?
Lateral move as in a move to a team that would be as good as the Cavs. I actually disagree about there being advantages for him making a lateral move.
Unless he really just wants to live in NYC or LA. In Chicago, he has to play in MJ’s shadow. In NYC, they get titles every couple of years.
If LeBron really wants to build his legacy, he has to stay and win in Cleveland. He would own the city forever, much like MJ will forever own Chicago.
If LeBron wants to make movies with Spike Lee, he can do that now. Lee’s documentary on Kobe was done while Kobe was in LA. LeBron can fly to any sporting event, concert, whatever any time he needs. He has an owner who will do (and spend) anything, and he’ll be able to get the Cavs to give him whatever coach he wants.
Why make a lateral move?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I just don’t want us all to be shocked when he heads elsewhere. Cleveland, as much as I love it, just isn’t the same as some of these other cities and he may be ready to try something new.
All year long Brian Windhorst was talking about how the Cavs are so hard to beat because of their versitility.
This should have been the case.
Brown should have gone small and just killed the C’s. They had no way to match the Cavs when they ran. Instead Brown kept using Shaq, who was brought in for Orlando, not Boston, because IMO Brown was afraid to piss him off.
What the hell happened to Hickson? Instead Brown goes to Z, who didn’t play in three different games, to guard Boston’s front line.
Cavs should have gone Andy, Hickson, LBJ, West and Moon/Mo. Run a pick and roll every play, like Orlando did to us last season, and run the C’s out of the building. Whenever Hickson was in, he made plays.
I am not a huge believer in basketball coaches. I think they can make a very small increase in wins, but can kill a team. Mike Brown and his idiotic handling of playing time killed this team.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 14, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely off subject, but I’m watching “Grandma’s Boy” for the umptenth time and it still cracks up. Love this movie.
A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright
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