Fantasy Football Open Thread: Ask Anything You Want!
We'll be doing weekly posts on fantasy football before the season begins, and this week we're going to start things off with a gigantic open thread of sorts. Anything can be covered here, such as...
- Which running back should I draft in the first round?
- What round should I take a quarterback in?
- Who is the better wide receiver option, Chad Ochocinco or Terrell Owens?
- Is it worth taking Brett Favre early on when he hasn't committed to playing yet?
- ...and so on and so on.
So, the deal is that you ask a fantasy football related question, and then everyone and anyone can weigh in on it. The questions don't have to be about Browns players, because, let's face it -- not too many of them are projected to have significant fantasy value.
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when do we find out who’s in the DBN league?
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
I should have the final list hammered out in the next day or so. Sorry for the delay, as I know those people not in the CBSSports league want to get together for their own league.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t mean to rush you, just curious.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
I was gunna ask the same thing. The season started for me already, so I’m curious too.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t know there would be another. i would do that. I would love to be in the other league but I am cheap and poor, so the combination is not good for spending money on things like FF.
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Both leagues are free, but yeah, I’m going to make an Unofficial DBN Fan League through Yahoo! Sports shortly after the primary one’s players are announced. I’ll make a FanPost explaining it all, but everyone is welcome to join, on mostly first come first serve basis. The maximum number of teams will probably be based on demand, but not exceeding 14, as it gets rather hectic after that.
If Favre is there in the 3rd, I’d take him. The man is a machine. I’d also take Jake D in the 7th. Just got a feeling about his numbers this year.
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Jake D in the 7th would be a waste. If you want to take a flyer on him, take him way later than that — last round probably. He ain’t going to be picked up before that.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 1, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft how you want.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with TheDriveStillHurts. I can’t picture Jake D. being picked anywhere near that high. If you draft players in the 7th that you feel the other managers might want, not only do you get the player, but you keep them off the opposing team.
It’s ok to have a feeling about a possible sleeper, you should just always remember their projected value and draft spot. I’d expect Jake D. to go undrafted, so for best results, take him with one of your last picks.
I don’t disagree. Anyone one could grab him super late or after the draft even. But if my heart was set on him being my backup, I’ll use a 7th.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The 7th round is early to draft your backup QB no matter who it is. You can get him much later so there is no reason to draft him that early.
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Two years ago, I got Kurt Warner as a free agent after the draft. He became my starter and one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
Last year, I got Brett Favre as a free agent in Week 3 and had one of the league’s top QB’s as my No. 2 option for the season.
In both years, I drafted Jake Delhomme earlier than I should have (fifth round two years ago, final round last year). I did take my backup quarterback in the seventh round last year though in Matt Hasselbeck (bad pick). It all depends on taste, because you never know when your favorite backup option will be taken.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
But a backup may only be used one week, so having a good one shouldn’t be a high priority. Of course, if your starting QB is shaky then it would be good to have a decent backup, but if you have one of the top guys then I wouldn’t worry too much over a backup that will just play once.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the benefits of taking a quarterback higher in round seven is that you might be able to use him in a trade for a high quality RB or WR later in the season if someone else’s QB goes down and your backup QB starts rolling. I should have pulled that move with Favre last season, but I was too worried about a Warner injury.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
True. If you can find good value for any position in any round then you should go for it because you can always make a trade later. But a guy like Delhomme will be available much later so there is no reason to draft him that early; that would not be a value pick.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this from the guy who got hammered in the DBN league last year? Not to sound pompous, but I have many first place trophy things. I know how to draft, baby.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve won a few fantasy leagues myself as well. Of course you can still win the league drafting your backup QB in the 7th round, but I wouldn’t recommend it as a strategy.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it depends on how you look at it. I see Jake having a decent season. Him being a backup wouldn’t be too bad. Especially if he starts ripping it up. Then we’re talking about trade bait.
And by the way I draft, I have everything I need by that 7th pick. I don’t see Jake as a waste.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft how you want.
Well, yeah, of course. But this thread is for people to weigh in with their thoughts. I think drafting JD in the 7th would be way high.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 1, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you guys think about Jerome Harrison as a 3rd RB? Specifically in a PPR league… I’m really excited about him. I noticed last year he was just a 100 yard game away from being a 1,000 yard rusher, and he started what? Half of the games?
I’m expecting some big things from him. Am I being a little over-optimistic?
I wouldn’t expect him to stuff the stat sheet, but probably should be fine as a 3rd running back. He may also be available late in the draft, so you would be able to fill a few other positions too.
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I agree. I am personally expecting pretty much the same stat line for Harrison. If we didn’t draft hardesty, a bit more, but I feel both will get a lot of time. I think harrison will still be a passing option and will still get 900-1000 yards.
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He was easily a 1500+ if he played the full season as a starter. But picking him would be kinda sketchy. We don’t know if it was fluke or not.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fluke? He put up damn good numbers (when he actually got the carries) for two years before that too.
He’s good. But not worth a high RB pick. Plus you gotta think of Hardesty in the mix now.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s tough with Harrison, and you can bet that I’ll attempt (or more so BS my way through) a fantasy analysis of the Browns running back position as one of my fantasy articles before the start of the season.
Right now, I look at Harrison as having the chance to be the “top ten running back that I got in the later rounds” type of player. On the same note, you could easily see a situation where Hardesty (or even a guy like Peyton Hillis) gets more carries near the goal line, forcing you to shake your head that your early pick (Harrison) is getting less fantasy points than someone who took Hardesty in the last round.
To answer your question, yes, I think Harrison is a suitable third running back draft pick. If you’re going to take him though, you might just have to try to waste a late draft pick on Hardesty as an insurance option.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
you might just have to try to waste a late draft pick on Hardesty as an insurance option.
This right here, is the way to go if you’re high on Harrison. Makes you somewhat full proof in terms of 3rd/4th string running backs, that will only see the light of day on bye weeks or when their respective team is playing the Rams.
at the risk of starting another “could care less” fiasco, I think the phrase is “fool proof.”
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by notthatnoise on Aug 1, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So who is everyone’s choice for the #1 pick — Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson? And who is the top QB — Brees, Manning, or Rodgers?
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I’m not a big fan of drafting backs early. The attrition rate is so high at the position that you’re generally better off with a top-tier QB or an Andre Johnson in the first round. There are always a number of backs who go undrafted or go late in the draft who, due to injury or poor play ahead of them, wind up as quality starters in the second half of the season. It’s generally easier to find a Ryan Grant or a Pierre Thomas mid-season than it is to find a quality QB or receiver.
I know who I would take #1, but won’t say until after the draft or until I know that I’m not one of the 12 in the DBN league.
Ultimately, FF championships are lost in the first round of the draft, and won in the middle rounds. The person who gets the best combination of TE, DEF, and #3 WR usually wins.
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Yeah, you can find a good RB later in the draft, but there are a few studs out there and if you have the #1 pick then you’ve got to take one of them. I’d take a QB or stud WR if I was picking in the middle of the first, but not at 1 or 2 when you can get a stud RB who can carry your team. Sure, a guy like Chris Johnson can get injured, but so can anyone. He’s not going to be sharing many carries with another back, though, so he’s a pretty safe bet with the top pick.
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I agree with it being won in the middle rounds.
However, I do think backs should often be taken early. You can always get good backs. However, the difference between a RB you get in the first/second round compared to one taken in the third/fourth round is much larger in fantasy value than the difference at QB or WR. Basically, there is a much larger dropoff between the elite players and everyone else at RB, whereas there isn’t so much with QB and WR.
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Personally, for the fantasy draft, I’d take Peterson. As I was saying before, I think Chris Johnson is actually a better back, but with the current state of the Titans, I think for fantasy purposes, Peterson is just safer. Especially if Favre finally succumbs to his age. Unless it’s a PPR league, then I’d go Johnson.
In terms of QB, it’s very tough, between those three guys. I’d probably go safe, with Brees, than Rodgers, and finally Manning.
Total agreement on both. Brees is definitely the best option at QB in my opinion but Manning is a close second. Rodgers is a solid choice and had a phenomenal fantasy season last year but Brees and Manning have consistently been very, very good fantasy QBs.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 1, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ve done plenty of online fantasy football leagues, but i’ve always done autopick instead of live draft, which i’ll be trying this year. any drafting tips?
Since it’s your first ever live draft, it might be a safe bet to just (generally) go off of the pre-draft rankings. The main tip I can offer you, is don’t over extend for a quarterback early in the draft. It’s much more important to get a running back that can carry your team consistently, in my opinion. Generally, if your active in the free agency, you can get a top 10 or even top 5 QB from the free agency that went undrafted (depending on how many people are in your league). Personally, I wouldn’t draft a QB unless I fell to 10 or later. Many leagues don’t even have that many teams.
My advice is the opposite of Simmsinns’. Draft a stud QB or receiver in the first no matter where you pick. In my experience, you can do just as well with a bevy of middle and late round backs and free agents as you can with Peterson or Johnson.
Also, I like to jump in a round or two early to get a stud defense and a stud TE.
More than anything, don’t pay too much attention to the rankings and don’t be afraid to reach for players. Go with your gut. I took a lot of crap on draft day in my fantasy baseball league this year for reaching for players (Joey Votto in the first round? Why on earth would anyone draft Aubrey Huff or washed up old Vladimir Guerrero? What a fool!). Now I’m 15-1 and there’s only 1 team in my division that can catch me (and only if I lose 6 of the final 8 weeks and he wins out).
Always trust your gut. The rankings are bunk.
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this is my strategy and I have 3 first place trophies to show for it.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 1, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not so sure about that. With all the running backs sharing the load these days I don’t think that a bunch of middle-round backs will bring close to the value of a Johnson or Peterson who can be counted on to carry the ball 20 times a game and get a bunch of TD’s. Now there may only be a handful of guys out there like that (Ray Rice also comes to mind), and if you can’t get one of those then I’d look somewhere else in the first, but I think RB studs like that are still worth a top pick. The trouble with those middle-round RB’s who share the load with another back is that you never know when one of them is going to have a good game and when they’re only going to get 6 carries. That’s not a problem with a top back.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Understood. That’s the conventional wisdom in Fantasy Football. In my experience, it’s a lot easier to find quality players at running back in the draft and throughout the year than it is to find quality receivers or a quality quarterback. There’s always a bunch of backs who emerge as the year progresses; guys who get all of the goal line carries; guys who go from sharing the load with another back to being the primary back when the other guy gets hurt; guys that have a ridiculously favorable matchup one week; guys who are coming off a bye with fresh legs and going up against a porous defense; etc. I find it a lot harder to anticipate good matchups with wideouts.
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Well, the CW is changing more towards your line of thinking. It used to be that people took only RB’s for the entire first round, and sometimes even the first two, but that was when most teams just had one feature back. With so many teams going with multiple RB’s that has brought the top QB’s and WR’s in the first round as well, and you can find good RB’s in the middle rounds who you can try to use as matchups throughout the season, but I still think the very top RB’s should be the first picks in the draft. If you can’t get one of them then certainly go for a stud QB or WR.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s never a bad thing to one of the two or three stud RBs. I’ve done it before.
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you can do just as well with a bevy of middle and late round backs and free agents as you can with Peterson or Johnson.
I don’t think that’s true, at all.
Also, I like to jump in a round or two early to get a stud defense and a stud TE.
Ok, but why? And at the risk of a solid back or receiver, especially when you wasted your first round pick on a QB…
Always trust your gut. The rankings are bunk.
Considering it’s his first live draft he’s ever participated in, I don’t think this is good advice.
Ok, but why? And at the risk of a solid back or receiver, especially when you wasted your first round pick on a QB…
We’re talking fourth, fifth or sixth round here, and yes, I believe the Ravens D and Antonio Gates are more valuable than a second tier back or receiver.
Considering it’s his first live draft he’s ever participated in, I don’t think this is good advice.
This isn’t rocket science, and DN isn’t mooncamping. I’d bet he’d do just as well trusting his gut and his knowledge of the league as anyone who spends a bunch of time studying draft projections and doing mock drafts as preparation for every single possible draft day scenario.
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Fair enough. When it comes to fantasy football, at least when drafting, we are basically in complete disagreement. Which is fine, of course, there are many ways to win. That’s part of the reason it’s so fun to play.
You should join the Unofficial DBN Fan League, I’m really intrigued to see how your strategy does for you this season. And it would be really interesting to see our nearly polar opposite strategies go head to head.
I’ll start it up as soon as Chris mentions who’s in the official one.
If it’s a CBS/NFL.com league, I’m in. I hate yahoo.
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Really? That’s suprising. I don’t hear many people say they hate Yahoo for fantasy. Most people I know think they’re the best.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried it this year (on Dorn’s recommendation, I believe) for Baseball and didn’t like it. Wound up abandoning the league and joining an 11th hour MLB.com Public league.
The best I can say for yahoo is it’s not as bad as ESPN.
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I would certainly use the rankings as a guide, especially when you get to the middle and later rounds and there are players available that many fans aren’t completely familiar with. I follow the NFL quite a bit but I still don’t know the starting RB, WR, and TE for every team, especially when you get to the 3rd and 4th WR. If you don’t know who is expected to start then you might miss a guy who would be a good pick or select a guy whose name you know but he’s about to lose his job to a rookie.
I know that everyone likes to claim that they know more than the “experts”, but sometimes they do actually know what they’re talking about.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I generally reach the farthest in the late rounds looking to shore up whatever position I’m thinnest at. If I’m thin at receiver, I’ll grab as many receivers as I can in the hopes that one turns out to be Marquez Colston or Donald Driver.
Throughout the draft, I pay more attention to what I have and what I need than to who the ‘experts’ claim is a value pick.
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I pay more attention to what I have and what I need
Of course, that should always be factored. Depending on how the earlier rounds went, usually you want to draft the bast available player at the position you most need to fill. If you don’t know, for example, whether to pick LeSean McCoy or Felix Jones, pre-draft rankings can be a useful tool to help someone decide.
I pay more attention to what I have and what I need
I think that goes without saying. Of course your picks should depend on your team needs at the time.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
are we talking the difference between getting the Ravens D and the Jets D and getting Gates vs. Jason Witten a larger difference than getting a 2nd tier RB/WR vs. a Third Tier WR?
If you are going to end up with a 2nd tier RB and Jason Witten, that could end up being a better Fantasy option than Gates and a 3rd tier RB.
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Do lots of mock drafts.
It will prepare you for the speed of the draft. You can also mock draft from each draft position to see what you might come up against. Drafting from the 1, 2, or 3 spot will yield a very different team than drafting from the 8, 9 or 10 spot, much less the 10, 11, or 12 spot. You can end up with an equally good team overall but you need expect the unexpected. It takes some practice to figure out what the different scenarios might be.
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Came on here to see what you guys thought of Hardesty for ffb. I still think i’ll take as my 4th back if available. Anyway I was wondering who to choose from between Calvin Johnson or Brandon Marshall if that scenario is there in the late 2nd.
I would take Calvin in the first if Andre and Brees are already gone (and I don’t have the #1 overall), so this seems like a no-brainer to me.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 1, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely, yes! Still, if Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson are still available, I’d take them before Austin.
After last season...
I’d have to say yes. He barely even played in the first 4 games and he still put up big time numbers.
Zetter.....I'd take C.J. over Marshall.
Marshall’s presence opens up even more opportunities for the Dolphins to run the ball. Also, I think the Lions will be coming from behind more often than not. Megatron would be my pick. (Between these two guys.
Good analysis. I just question CJ’s durabillity and I think Henne has a good arm and a good line. maybe I’ll take both (cj first).
In my opinion receivers are drastically underrated. its easy to find a decent RB in the late rounds or free agency, but the same can’t be said of WR.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 1, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Decent sure, but not someone who can carry a team like Peterson, Chris Johnson, or MJD. And yes, WRs with #1 or 2 (on a fantasy team) potential can be found in free agency. The key is pluck them in the early weeks. The same can be said for QB.
As for AP, CJ, or MJD tier RBs: virtually no shot.
Which leads me to larger point though, based on my experience, no matter what your draft strategy is, leagues are almost always won and lost in free agency, assuming you have an active league.
his original question was about what to draft in the second. if any of those backs you mentioned are there in the second, you’re either in a 2-team league, or someone is an idiot.
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I agree with taking a WR in the 2nd. I feel thats the best time to take them, because there are usually some first round talents still there and some guys you get in the 2nd, may outperform guys in the first. I personally go RB/WR/RB/QB usually…I feel thats how I can get the best value per position.
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There’s a lot of talk and debate going on about the first round strategy and whatnot. I just want to state, in my opinion, there is a list of guys that are absolute MUST draft players, if available. That list is as follows: Adrian Peterson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Chris Johnson, and Ray Rice.
I think passing on any of them guys if available, is probably the worst move you’ll make all season.
Sure, you never know when it comes to things like this, heck anyone of those guys could break a major bone in week 1 (i.e. Tom Brady 2008), but with every pick there is a certain amount of risk/reward. With the 4 guys mentioned above, the risk is so low and the potential reward is so high, that not to take them, if you get the shot, would be just a terrible move.
Is MJD going to be getting most of the carries in Jacksonville? I don’t even know who his backup is.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 1, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
My personal strategy is to draft as many top RBs/WRs available and let QBs and TEs drop to me. It is also very important to be mindful of the bye weeks. By concentrating on just WR/RBs to start, your core team will be solid and can handle a big name going down. I try to get 2-3 middle of the pack QBs for cheap and play the matchup game. (Palmer, Young, and A.Smith can be usually had for cheap w/ amazing upside) Gonzo and Witten can be had later than Clark, Davis and Gates for about the same return. Also for DST I have been trying to wait till my last pick and get CLE … woohoo…my reasoning being they have a great 1st 2 weeks..then I can pick up a DST that has proven themselves to start the season instead of guessing who’s going to be good or over reaching based on projections..as far as kicker (who cares) I use my second last pick on the best kicker with a late bye so I can switch out later for a kicker who’s looking good who and has already passed their bye.
I forgot to add that as far as K and DST go I rarely get backups that way your stable available at other positions is deeper.
Unless I get a top defense then I usually draft two so I can play the matchups every week.
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One option that is somewhat viable is a rotating matchup defense/st, where you literally have that slot be a revolving door with free agency, picking up the best available matchup each week. I only recommend it if you’re desperate.
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by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m picking 5th in a 12 team draft and already am questioning what my strategy should be. The conventional RB/RB in the first two rounds just doesn’t look too appealing – especially in the latter 1/2 of the second round. I’m seriously considering WR/RB – if others do the same and serviceable RB’s fall – or even WR/WR and taking my chances with all the RBBC’s out there. Here’s my arguments, I’d love to hear some feedback and opinions.
Looking at the early rankings for this season, I can’t help but feel that after the top 4 RB’s the rest are JAG’s (just a guy, if you don’t speak scout).
My top 4
CJ
A. Peterson
MJD
Ray Rice
M. Turner is my 4a depending on what happens in the top 4 leading up to the season and he’s teetering due to coming off of injury and splitting time with Norwood.
The rest of the top ten RB’s and my reasons for not being sold on their 1st round value;
Frank Gore – getting old and has serious injury history – since college.
Steven Jackson – again, getting old, injury history and will likely be keyed on by Defenses when the rookie QB takes the helm. I’m guessing week 5 against Detroit.
Ryan Mathews – Sorry, I have a hard time spending my first pick on just about any Rookie.
And the last two, depending on who’s rankings you’re looking at could be any of these 4;
Shonn Greene – Still has to prove he can be a #1 guy, likely to share carries, runs very upright – injury risk.
Joseph Addai – Passing Offense, always was and will be, as long as Peyton says so.
Cedric Benson – He’s never put together 2 good years in his career.
DeAngelo Williams – Some injury history, likely to split a lot of carries, QBs are young and younger.
By my estimation, after that top 10 you have 11 or 12 viable starting RB’s for a total of 21 or 22.
So, if you are picking outside of he fourth or maybe the fifth spot in the first round – what do you do?
Look at the top ten WR’s? In my opinion – you’d better – because there are just as many question marks in that group as there are in the RB’s.
Now, looking at the top of the WR class, you have maybe 6 “can’t miss” guys;
Andre Johnson
Randy Moss
Reggie Wayne
Miles Austin
Marques Colston
Greg Jennings
And, you have 4 guys that should be can’t miss but have some interesting “if’s” surrounding them;
Larry Fitzgerald – Who is throwing him the ball? I have to believe this Offense will be a much more balanced attack than in years past.
Brandon Marshall – Again, who is throwing the football? Chad Henne? Look at his stats with Kyle Orton vs. Jay Cutler. What other WR is going to keep every Defense from rolling all coverage his way?
The last two of the top 10 could be any one of these 4, again depending on the list;
Wes Welker – Big injury last year. Not big on two WR’s from the Pats in my top 10.
DeSean Jackson – Will Kolb pan out?
Steve Smith – Getting “long in the tooth”, QB questions, strong running game in Carolina.
Anquan Boldin – Can he be a true #1 WR? Defenses won’t be afraid to double him with no other receiving threat.
After the top 10 WR’s there are again maybe 10 guys that are even close to being true “#1’s” on your fantasy roster.
Suppose my theory is correct and there are 4 true stud RB’s and 6 true stud WR’s. Mix in Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers going in the first couple of rounds and you are talking a total of 13 big time, can’t miss, stud players. Everything after them is relatively interchangeable.
Last year the top 10 RB’s scored more points overall than the top 10 WR’s in every case.. – by quite a wide margin. This would lead you to believe that RB is still the more valuable position. That is, until you set your weekly roster with two stud RB’s and realize that your #2 and #3 WR might combine for 6 points…..
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
I’m on board with you here. I think if you’re outside the top 4-5 you might as well pick a WR or QB, because there’s less depth to be had there and the waiver wire isn’t as friendly. I would also throw Calvin Johnson into the mix at WR somewhere.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 4, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions

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