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Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 2 - Haden Arrives to Camp

The temperatures were a little warmer in Cleveland on Sunday as the Browns took the practice field in Berea for Day 2 of training camp. The practice took place between 1:30 p.m. and 3:30 p.m. After signing his contract between practices on Saturday, first-round pick Joe Haden was able to participate in camp today. What else happened on the first day of August?

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TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 2 (8/1/10)

  1. Elam in Coverage: CBSSports.com had some praise for safety Abram Elam today, noting he made several good plays in coverage. Also receiving praise from CBS for their "blanketing coverage" were starting cornerbacks Eric Wright and Sheldon Brown.
     

  2. FB Peyton Hillis was busy showing off his hands and running after the catch.
  3. Hillis Impresses at Receiver: Fullback Peyton Hillis might have gotten knocked back by D'Qwell Jackson yesterday, but he's already had great practices in terms of catching the football. One article I read yesterday indicated that Hillis has better hands than a lot of receivers in the league. The OBR notes that in team scrimmages, Hillis caught a 40-yard pass from Seneca Wallace on a third down play, and later had a 30-yard reception coming on a short pass that he ran for yards after the catch on. Maybe the Browns can be known for having the best receiving team in the league for players who aren't labeled as "wide receivers."
     
  4. The Playbook Online: When head coach Eric Mangini spoke to the media before practice on Sunday, he mentioned that CB Joe Haden has been studying the playbook the past few weeks with the aid of an online program the team provides. I guess it makes sense to have those things computerized, but you better not let a copy get into the hands of someone else.
     
  5. Haden's First Day Duties: Haden worked with the second-team defense Sunday afternoon, and also saw some action on the punt coverage team. Interestingly enough, with the team searching for a gunner who can spell Joshua Cribbs, Haden worked at that position and did a good job maneuvering around defenders. The Akron Beacon Journal article below has more details on Haden's first day.
     
  6. Mangini on Rogers: When asked about DL Shaun Rogers, who is still on the PUP list, Mangini said the team will work him at both defensive end positions when he returns. Mangini noted that Rogers has also been lobbying to play tight end and fullback in goal line formations.

  7. Take a Lap: Someone asked yesterday whether any players were still having to run laps after a mistake. The answer to that is "yes." In fact, even Joshua Cribbs reportedly had to run a lap after he muffed a punt.
     
  8. Still Settling With St. Clair: That must be some cold that Tony Pashos has. He was in uniform, but did not participate much for the second straight day, only running in 'light agility drills' per the ABJ. That means more time for John St. Clair. Given how bad St. Clair has played in the past, Pashos might be gaining bonus points every time the coaches see St. Clair take the field.
     

  9. CB Joe Haden made his debut.
  10. A Change in Formation: The Browns had a slight change in the offensive line Sunday, as rookie Shawn Lauvao stepped in at right guard with the first team while Floyd Womack shifted over to the right tackle position.
     
  11. Dawson Stays Accurate: I just remembered that I had a dream that the team waived Phil Dawson for no good reason. Thankfully that's not the case, as the reliable kicked drilled seven kicks in a row from different lengths as practice came to a close, per the team's official Twitter page.
     
  12. Good Day for DeAngelo Smith: Smith, a cornerback who was on the Browns briefly last season, had Seneca Wallace's number Sunday as he intercepted the quarterback in 7-on-7 drills and also broke up a pass of his intended for TE Robert Royal.
     
  13. Brownies: QB Colt McCoy hit WR Johnathan Haggerty for a touchdown in the back of the end zone...receivers Brian Robiskie and Chansi Stuckey continued to catch the ball well...RB Jerome Harrison broke through the line on two different plays...the team was in full pads for Sunday's afternoon session.
     
  14. Double Brownies: That first list was getting a bit long, so here's a couple more quick hitters...LB David Veikune did not practice; he was riding the stationary bike...former Browns quarterback Bernie Kosar, who we can't wait to hear announce the preseason games again, was in attendance and chatted with a few of the players and coaches...the team was forced to sprint at the end of practice, as seen in the picture at the top.

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Photos credited to ClevelandBrowns.com.

The Browns practice twice on Monday. The early session is from 8:45 a.m. to 10:45 a.m, and the evening session is from 5:45 p.m. to 7:45 p.m.

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dang thats an early practice! wow lol

by kjc on Aug 1, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, fixed it (for those wondering, I had “a.m.” instead of “p.m.” for the times.

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hillis

Any chance Hillis sees time at tight end is he is a good receiver? That could save a roster spot if he can play both FB and TE.

by kjc on Aug 1, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Link.

Check the 1:30 mark to see what kind of hands he has. I doubt he plays Tight End though. He’s built like a power back.

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by golanbatrac on Aug 1, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy highlights. If only Vickers could catch and run like that.

by skipkirk on Aug 1, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He definitely could play H-Back though. I think he would be the perfect H-Back. This would give the browns Versatility to line him up on the Line or in the backfield. I would like to see the browns line him up in a variety of spots on O b/c of his versatility.

I believe he can line up at 3 different positions. He can line up at RB in power sets, FB, and TE for a play or two. A guy like him gives you so much versatility. With him and Vickers in the backfield, you can run it with him, or do a play fake with both guys fufilling blocking roles which would free up TEs to run routes. The fact that he can block, Catch, and Run makes him an asset at all 3 positions and can affect the game a variety of different ways.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I basically agree with all of this, and to aid you in your quest to become a more succinct writer, I’ll point out that you repeated yourself a few times here.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. I realized that after I typed it…again why an edit button would be good.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or you can reread your comment before you post it. (That wasn’t meant to be snarky, just a suggestion.)

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. I did skim through, but then a couple minutes later when looking back, it did seem to repeat itself. I didn’t think it sounded that snarky.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you go to about 1:15 in Golan’s video, you’ll see Denver run a PA fake off of inside zone action (in fact, almost all of those runs are Zone Blocked). In those diagrams, I have one TE and one FB, but we ran the play a lot last year with 2 TE to the strong side and no FB.

The outside TE would be off the line and would make the FB’s block on the weak side of the run. I think HIllis could play this position, and that role could probably be expanded upon if we wanted. Holmgren should know of plenty ways to use backs as receivers from his days in SF.

(At about 3:10 in the video is the Snag concept, also).

I don’t think it would be wise to cut Moore or Watson, but we can probably part with one if not both of Smith and Royal. We would need to make sure we would still be OK in goal line situations if one of Moore, Watson, Vickers, and HIllis got hurt (you usually want 3 TE and 1 FB).

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 2, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you are pretty much saying he could be an H-Back?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends what you mean by H-back, but probably.

He can catch the ball out of the backfield (HB and FB) and off the line. I am guessing he could be enough of a blocker on the line to play there sometimes. We might be able to split him wide at times also.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 2, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. not that he would be doing this stuff that often but maybe line up wide a play a game or something like that. Just to make the D respect him and factor for him.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 3, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shaun Rogers

Having Rogers play tight end or fullback in goal line formation doesn’t sound like a bad idea, especially if he can catch and he won’t drop the ball. Remember the Bus in Pittsburgh? There was no stopping him in short yardage situations. The Refrigerator catching that touchdown pass in the Super Bowl also comes to mind. . .

by duke4711 on Aug 1, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

The Playbook Online: When head coach Eric Mangini spoke to the media before practice on Sunday, he mentioned that CB Joe Haden has been studying the playbook the past few weeks with the aid of an online program the team provides. I guess it makes sense to have those things computerized, but you better not let a copy get into the hands of someone else.

The online playbook software Mangini is referring to is called Hudl. The Browns are one of the few teams, along with the Jets (not a coincidence), that are using it in the NFL. Bill Callahan was the first to use it at Nebraska the year before he was fired, and when he was hired with the Jets the next year, he brought it over.

http://www.hudl.com/

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Aug 1, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

The embedded youtube videos are a pain. They kill the z button.

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by golanbatrac on Aug 1, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, I’ll consider just linking to the videos next time unless it’s a cool highlight clip. I still have no issues with the z button w/ YouTube videos in the post though.

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m fine too.

It’s the all powerful LOS

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 1, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t go changing anything if I’m the only one. I thought that at one time others were having the same difficulty, but that could have been at another site.

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by golanbatrac on Aug 2, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was here, but it was also on a post that had a crap-ton (scientific term) of posts.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love scientists for that word.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 2, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is crap-ton an SI unit of measure?

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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

its a natural unit.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re not the only one. kills my “z” as well.

by Dawg Nuts on Aug 2, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same with me.

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just sent a bug report to support@sbnation.com to see if they can look into it.

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now my z no longer works…

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 2, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m good on Fox but nothing on IE

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 2, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I finally decided to see what this fabled z button was all about. Works fine with my Safari.

by JustBob on Aug 2, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

…You’ve never used the Z button!?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 2, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. That was my Z cherry.

by JustBob on Aug 3, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wowza.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Works fine for me.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 2, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice to hear more postitive things about Robiskie.

by emily522 on Aug 1, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Joel Reinders mustache is F&*king awesome!

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 1, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m pullin’ for him and his moustache to make the team.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Aug 1, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same. That dude has some sick size.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 1, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That dude has some sick size.

And he’s as strong as an ox. When I saw his highlight film I said that we have to keep this guy.

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 2, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

is he way on the right hand side of the picture?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone from the OBR who attended practice made this observation on WR Carlton Mitchell:

Carlton Mitchell…. well let me say this I was at camp the last two days and I really do think he is a very raw talent that if given time to develop he has a lot of tools that this team does not have right now at the WR position. Size and Speed….. That being said DAM for a second I thought Braylon was running around out there. Because the kid couldnt catch a dam thing

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Size and Speed….. That being said DAM for a second I thought Braylon was running around out there. Because the kid couldnt catch a dam thing

That explains why he was drafted so low. Shouldn’t they be looking for more Brian Brennans?

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 2, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s what robiskie is supposed to be.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he’s not white.

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

from what I knew of him in HS, he might as well have been.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another great report from thebrownsboard.com forum here, I encourage everyone to check it out:

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?s=7041ba7615e9adbf4f4c1b88054f10d7&showtopic=15157

They have several pictures in that thread too, including one of the Plain Dealer’s Mary Kay Cabot

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

the second half of that post was like moon suddenly joined the conversation, not to mention all the ass pictures that followed.

I did enjoy this though:

Eric Mangini on the personality of defensive coordinator Rob Ryan: "Rob lives outside the box. I visit him quite often. He has a nice place there."

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That quote is awesome. Who said Mangini isn’t funny?

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the guy on the right staring at her ass.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Aug 2, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah, that was perfect timing for the guy who snapped it.

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

REC

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 2, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

HUGE REC!

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Aug 2, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

how else is she supposed to get inside information?

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

REC.

That’s hilarious.

by emily522 on Aug 2, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That old man in the background is checking out her Gucci smile.gif

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

your emoticon looks like its doing something unclean.

by Dawg Nuts on Aug 2, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on Aug 2, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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