Brady Watch
by realmccoy on Aug 16, 2010 1:37 PM EDT
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Round 1 of the trade of Brady Quinn to the Broncos goes to the Big Show. Make it a 10-8 round. As a fan of Brady Quinn, I wanted to see if self proclaimed QB guru Josh McDaniel could help the struggling Quinn. After all, in Josh´s ego maniac mind set, he dabbles in QBs only after changing water into wine for post practice meal.
IMHO, you as a fan of BQ the best word to descripe the performance was dreadful. Or maybe painful. For whatever reason, BQ still looks rushed, uncomfortable, and his accuracy has just not improved. His decisionmaking was poor, forcing pass after pass in double coverages. I am really rooting for this guy, but it looks to me he is danger of getting a visit from the turk. Tebow, who is prolly as raw as any QB first rounder, looked much more composed and relaxed than Brady.
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no way he’s getting cut this soon. they’ll keep him around for this season, as he’ll be the 3rd QB and is probably better than anyone they’d sign off the street mid-season if both orton and tebow go down.
You are prolly right. I just don´t understand why he is regressing at this point of his career.
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Regressing? Hard to regress from last year.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
There were 2 occassions that I was impressed with BQ. The first was his first preseason game against the Lions. Romeo was stumbling around as usual forgetting about the clock situation. Brady was all over it and controlled the clock amid the normal sideline confusion. In addition he showed nice accuracy and touch. Secondly, his first big start on a short week vs. Denver, thought he really looked good.
Now he looks like a chicken with his head cut off.
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Brady looked good against the team coming off the worst record in NFL history?
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
He looked good the whole season when he started for that Denver game. Too bad he only stayed healthy for about 1.25 games.
He also did pretty well last year against the Lions and the Chargers—especially the opening drive of the Chargers game.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Regressing? The issues he had in college have followed him to the NFL (below average accuracy, not strong arm, checks down too quickly). He is officially the worst 1st round Bust in the Browns return simply because it took 2 first round draft picks to get him.
Players taken after the Browns spot in the next draft: Chris Johnson, Dustin Keller, Brandon Flowers, Desean Jackson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles…. all of those guys would have looked pretty darn good in Brown and Orange instead of Lady Quinn.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 17, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn’t it a first and a second though?
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by golanbatrac on Aug 17, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We used the first rounder to pick him (thats one) and gave up the next years first rounder (thats two). If we also gave up a second rounder then that just takes it even further.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 18, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions
We’ve had this discussion before — we traded a first and second round pick to get the pick to select Quinn, so the cost to get Quinn was a first and second round pick. You can’t count the pick they traded away and the pick they received because they never had both at the same time; they traded one to get the other.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 18, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. We could have used the next years pick on any number of good players, and we also could have used the pick we traded for on a different player that would have been better then Quinn. I count both as wasted picks as the one we traded away was specifically for Quinn.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 18, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You can’t use both
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by TheRealSlimShady on Aug 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, we traded a first round pick in ‘08 and a second round pick in ’07 for Quinn, so that is what he cost us to get. A first and a second — not two firsts. We wouldn’t have had the first round pick in ‘07 that we used to take Quinn if we wouldn’t have made the trade, so it’s illogical to count the pick we got AND the pick we traded away in the trade.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 18, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys are talking about two different things. you’re talking about what the pick cost, and he’s talking about what was wasted. we wasted that pick we used on quinn, just like we wasted the pick we used on courtney brown.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 19, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
never mind, I’m mixed up.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 19, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Bingo. I guess I could have worded it better but this is what I meant to get across.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 19, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, we wasted the pick on Quinn. That pick cost us a first and a second, not two firsts. I don’t know how I can make this any more clear.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 19, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s kind of semantics at this point. We wasted 2 picks on Quinn.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
It’s not really semantics. The point is that you can’t count picks you gave up and picks you received in a trade to draft a player, which is what he’s doing. He’s essentially saying that drafting Quinn cost two firsts and a second (I know he hasn’t been mentioning the second round pick but if he’s including the first we traded then he should include that one as well) and that’s just not true. So, no, it’s not about semantics.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
the picture in my head while reading this…
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by Kimble_79 on Aug 20, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was simply responding to Dorn’s comment.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 21, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re thinking we had 2 first round picks. We had already spent one on Joe Thomas. We had to move back up to round 1 with our round 2 pick, along with next year’s one. So we only spent a 1 and a 2.
Kill them. Kill them all.
Read Notthatnoise’s post above, thats what I was insinuating. I count the picks we gave to Dallas as wasted as well as the pick that was actually spent on Quinn.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 19, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean the comment where he said afterwards “never mind, I’m mixed up”.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 19, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was just looking at the 2008 draft the other day, and the Browns’ pick that became the Cowboy’s started a run of Felix Jones, Rashard Mendenhall, and Chris Johnson.
Not a bad trio of skill players (Jones’ overall value TBD).
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I am still not sold on Jones or Mendenhall. Johnson is obviously good.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Agree, though with hindsight 20/20, I am sure we all agree we’d rather have Jones or Mendenhall over Quinn.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 18, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but at the time Quinn seemed to look like clearly the better prospect.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
I remember when BQ chose ND over OSU and being a little mad that one of the top prospects went to a school other than OSU. I’d never seen him play in HS, thus my ignorance, but saw plenty of ND games. He never seemed to step up in big games. I saw him play against Ohio State, USC, and in bowl games and he never looked good in any of them.
When the Browns picked him, I wasn’t excited. I figured they saw something that I didn’t and that maybe he was just a victim of the team he was on. I’m no talent evaluator by any stretch of the imagination but occasionally my dumb luck instincts are right. I think BQ will have a Couch-esque exit from the NFL. If he doesn’t make the slightest improvement, then teams will lose all interest.
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Notre Dame was ridiculously ovematched in those bowl games. The fact that he had that USC team within one illegal play of victory with the squad he had is pretty impressive to me.
He’s been mostly terrible as a pro, but you have to give him credit for his college career. He was good.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Right, we’ve had this discussion a few dozen times already, but the idea that we knew Quinn wouldn’t be good in the NFL because he “couldn’t win the big games” at Notre Dame is simply ridiculous. As you said, Notre Dame was overmatched against USC and OSU and the fact that he almost led an upset of an all-time great USC team should be a sign of how great he played, not that he was bad.
Also, Quinn was 29-45 for 286 yards with no TD’s or INT’s against OSU. Those aren’t fantastic numbers but they certainly aren’t bad, so to say that “he never looked good in any of them” is simply wrong.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 23, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but some people have the ability to discern between a college talent and what translates to the pros. I am not saying that is the case here, but there were skeptics aplenty of Quinn’s pro prospects entering the draft.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
Absolutely. I wanted us to take JT, but I was high on Quinn at the time of that draft. The big question with him was his occasional loss of the strike zone—a concern even his supporters acknowledged.
If I remember correctly, he blamed it on the receivers in a pretty roundabout way. Many teams coach the receiver to run a route according to a landmark on the field (i.e. hashes, top of numbers, bottom of numbers, 3 yards inside the hash, etc.) Quinn said he was simply throwing the balls where they were supposed to go according to the landmarks and the receivers weren’t where they should have been. To me, this blaming of incompletions on other players is a red flag, but I think he actually did it in a really nice and polite way which wasn’t as red-flagable.
In any event, Quinn was displaying this same sort of loss of the strike zone when he saw his first time for us in 08 during the short time he was healthy. He would put a ball right on K2’s outside shoulder where it should be within inches. Then he would throw one at someone else’s feet. But during the very short time when he flashed NFL competence, he displayed exactly the same type of accuracy that he did in college.
The concern was valid, but he was doing a solid job despite the negative trait showing up in the pros.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Cut your losses and run! You can’t win this one… I’ve tried.
Despite my valiant efforts, and even later being 100% right about him going to suck in the pros, the comparison of him against decent college opponents just doesn’t work here.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 25, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Players taken after the Browns spot in the next draft: Chris Johnson, Dustin Keller, Brandon Flowers, Desean Jackson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles
I am NOT a defender of Brady Quinn, and moreover believe that Savage blew it on this trade, among others. However, playing the “how was drafted after that spot” game to prove a bust is ridiculous. I guess almost every player in the 2000 draft was a bust because Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round, after all of them.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My point was that there were quality players available that turned into good pros or are atleast looking competent on the field. Quinn however had red flags everywhere (his poor play in games against good teams, poor accuracy etc…) and people for some reason refused to accept this fact and proclaimed him some kind of saviour at the QB position.
I for one feel relieved that he is failing elsewhere right now, won me quite a few bets that I made immediately following the announcing of the drafting of Quinn.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 18, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Quinn didn’t have red flags everywhere when he was in college; that’s revisionist thinking.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 18, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well unless I was the only one seeing it (I made posts and argued constantly with fellow Browns fans who wanted him with our 1st round pick). I am trying to dig up something I posted that showed his games against top 25 teams throughout his career, which were average at best.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 19, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, except that everyone plays worse against great teams than against bad teams because great teams have much better players on defense.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Aug 19, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
many QBs did worse against top 5 teams and top 5 defenses…that is why those teams were so good. They were better than your average team. Its not like whenever he faced a competent team, he just rolled over and played dead. He just at times struggled (albeit with a mediocre supporting cast) against great teams and great defenses.
its revisionist history to act like he was completely terrible against every single competent team and was THAT much worse against good teams than other QBs. Its also revisionist history when you say he showed very poor accuracy in college.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
I don’t know Brad, I and a lot of my friends spent the days leading up to the draft saying “I hope we don’t draft that awful Notre Dame hype product.”
The day of the draft, I watched the Browns pick with a group of friends in a dorm room. We all cheered when the Browns took Joe Thomas, and then I left to go cover a tennis match for the college paper. An hour later, my phone lit up with a half-dozen “NOOOOOOOOO!” text messages, and I knew we had somehow taken Quinn.
Plus, you know, all those other teams passed on him. So I would say that lots of people saw Quinn as a bust coming out of college.
Just because he was passed by 20 or so teams doesn’t mean those teams all thought he was a bust; they just thought that there was somebody better on the board on the time. Being the 20-something best player in the draft doesn’t mean you’ll be a bust.
And, sure, him playing at ND resulted in a lot of extra hype about him, but that hype goes both ways. People like your friends could think he’s overrated and not worthy of his hype just because he went to Notre Dame and ignore the real skills that he showed in college. I’m pretty sure that NFL teams don’t draft based on hype but based on what they saw on film and in workouts.
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by Buckeye Brad on Aug 22, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
20 some teams passed on Aaron Rodgers too.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
by this rationale, every other team that passed on those guys also made huge mistakes. no one knew they were going to be that good at the time. you can’t say a draft pick was bad simply because players drafted after that pick turned out to be better. at the time, the browns were being widely praised for that draft.
exactly. the eagles were idiots then for taking a guy who is a rotational DT right now instead of grabbing Calais Campbell. the eagles usually draft well so this rationale doesn’t work.
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Chris Johnson, Dustin Keller, Brandon Flowers, Desean Jackson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles
but we could also have Duane Brown, Kentwan Balmer, Antoine Cason, Tyrell Johnson, Trevor Laws, or Brian Brohm. You can list guys who have made a good impact between picks 22 and 73 (which is a very large range) and have exceeded expectations, and i can name just as many guys who still haven’t made any significant impact in the NFL.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
Most fans over at MHR are willing to give quinn a couple more chances to prove that he deserves to stay as the # 2 guy so he really cant afford to bumble and stumble the rest of the pre season or tebow will take over as the # 2 QB
by broncosfaninphilly on Aug 16, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
I’m fine with looking to see if he was a fluke or just poor coaching of the Browns. I’d like to see how our Rd. 1 QBs pan out.
So don’t talk for me. UGH!
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
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by SpecialBrownie on Aug 16, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I spoke to quickly above, this was the extent of my interest in BQ and DA. Now that they are gone and I’ve seen a bit of them (granted it is the pre-season), I’m comfortable not thinking about them anymore. They looked the same in their new uniforms as they did in their old ones.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
Couldn’t have said it better myself. He’s gone, he was a bust, let’s move on.
by Onyx Lightning on Aug 16, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I take a deep interest in how former Browns players do around the league. You’ll still see me get a little more excited when I see Luke McCown playing in the preseason than I would another backup quarterback. Just a little fetish of mine; unfortunately, most Browns alumni don’t last too long in the league to follow them.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 16, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I endorse this message.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
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by SpecialBrownie on Aug 16, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought McCown looked pretty good, although me and my buddy kept calling him McNown, which caused us to search and find out he has two brothers who were also QBs, neither of whom (?) are Cade McNown.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
I think debate (for now) is fine considering he’s been one of, if not the, most polarizing members of the Browns over the past 11 years. It’s his first opportunity as a non-Brown, and maybe we’ll see if he’s truly a bust or if the Browns mismanaged his growth.
and hell… Martin freakin’ Rucker got a fanshot for being cut by the Eagles. No harm in talking about the potential franchise QB our 2008 draft was traded for.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Aug 16, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t worry there will be more ND QBs and HCCS has taken residence in the Ville.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
Your boy is going to lose to Tebow.
Ouch.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 16, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No it’s not.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 17, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 17, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Preseason.
Unless you believe Victor Cruz is Jerry Rice 2.0
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 18, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re still wrong.
Unless you believe Brady Quinn will become John Elway 2.0
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine you win.
Best trade ever. Damn the possibilities of the future.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 18, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. You broke like a twig. You’re no fun.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
no it really isnt. We got 2 draft picks and a young FB/RB hybrid that is going to see the field this season while they got 1 year of Quinn holding a clipboard behind Tebow and Orton.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Aug 17, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk to me after the season. If Quinn has done nothing, and that is probable, and Hillis runs like a wild man, then I will agree.
As for now, it is still waaaay to early to be calling anyone “winners” or “losers”. Fact of the matter is, it will probably be a wash with none of the players in the deal amounting to anything.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 18, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Hillis is a beast.
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by golanbatrac on Aug 18, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting Quinn off our roster and the fact that he is on theirs makes us the “winner” of the trade. The draft picks and especially Hillis just add to the fact.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Aug 18, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You are just so wrong.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
When was he a Brown?
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
…OICWUTUDIDTHAR.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 18, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James
For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Aug 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sort of think Quinn deserves a little continued interest for at least a couple of years. As a hat tip to the older Browns´fans – he is this generation´s Mike Phipps. The much ballyhooed college QB that came at an expensive price and then busted in Cleveland.
To me the surprise portion of the trade is how good Hillis has looked. Guy seems like a beast. Not sure how much he will help this year because we have Vickers, but he has really shown some all around FB skills. Almost like we should have thrown in some draft picks.
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We have different uses for Hillis and Vickers.
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You think there will be enough touches for him to have an impact? I may be wrong but if he can get some opportunities – he will impress and surprise some people.
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They were already putting both on the field together with the1st team offense in the first preseason game. Hillis is of use in the passing game as well. Backs that can run passing routes and catch the ball help the passing game a lot, especially in a passing attack that doesn’t go deep super often.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Hillis is a perfect utility type player that is just as dangerous no matter what he’s doing (blocking/running/receiving), and I was saying in the game thread that I’d like to see him designated as a RB and carry he Harrison and Hardesty to free up roster space somewhere else. He seems to be the type of player that Mangini scoured the league for last year.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Aug 22, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted who cares. He isnt our problem anymore. Same with DA though I really like watching DA crash and burn more then BQ.
by LiveandDiefortheDawgPound on Aug 20, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
Update - Round 2 Goes to the Big Show 10-7
Ok, I know now that 46% of you don´t give a rats´ little arse about Brady Quinn. However, that means 54% either care a little about the trade – or realized that is basically stupid to participate in a poll and then say you don´t care.
Quinn was a little better when the 4th string came in for the Lions. But basically he still really sux. Same problem, afraid to step up in the pocket, always checking down, same deer in the headlights look, and clueless when the play breaks down. So basically this would have been a 10-8 or 10-9 round for “The Show” until Peyton Hillis did his incredible hulk imitation. Guy is a freaking beast and will be a cult hero in Cleveland. I personally think in fairness we should just tell the Broncos that they have done enough and they don´t need to send over any draft picks.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Your facetiousnes aside, forget fairness. I would be satisfied with just Hillis, but aside from Pittsburgh and Baltimore, is there any team that most Browns fans dislike more than Denver? Even if they are late round picks, better they’re in our hands than theirs.
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This trade has the markings of a “steal” and the Eagles trade looks good early too. Much better than Mangini´s trades last year. I am prolly over-excited, but the look of Vickers and Hillis together in the same backfield in December just gets me overly geeked on the trade.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
My in-laws are big time Broncos fans. They were pissed at the trade. I’m just like everyone else here and am ecstatic about it. Having to constantly hear crap about how poorly my team has done over the past decade, you can bet I had no shame in rubbing this steal in their faces.
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