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Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 3 (Morning) - QB Platoon?

DE Clifton Geathers rushing OT Joel Reinders in the morning practice, via prod.static.browns.clubs.nfl.com

It's Day 3 of Cleveland Browns training camp, and the team hit the field this morning for one of two practice sessions on Monday. Today's report includes some more positive news on WR Brian Robiskie, and a reporter's breakdown of several of the Cyclone plays and a possible quarterback platoon.

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TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 3 [MORNING] (8/2/10)

  1. Robiskie's Progress Shows: After an impressive minicamp, second-year WR Brian Robiskie has followed that up with a good showing at training camp. He had a nice leaping catch in the back of the end zone on a pass from Jake Delhomme, and is crediting some of his success to the quarterbacks putting the ball in the right place. Daniel Wolf from Dawg Scooper took note of Robiskie today too and credited him for his crisp route running and his ability to catch everything thrown his direction.
     
  2. The Missing Tackles: Before it was just Tony Pashos who was out, but both Pashos and John St. Clair missed practice Monday morning. Mangini later indicated that Pashos could be available for the evening session, and that St. Clair just banged his arm and should be fine.
     
  3. Other Areas of the OL: With both tackles out, Shawn Lauvao and Floyd Womack continued getting reps at right guard and right tackle, respectively, with the first team. Lauvao has also been taking snaps at center with the third-team offense, with Billy Yates playing the role of backup center.
     
  4. Doerschuk: Quarterback Platoon & Cribbs: Steve Doerschuk of the Canton Repository has a theory that the Browns will go with a full-fledged quarterback platoon this season between Delhomme and Wallace. He cites how often Wallace is spelling Delhomme with the first unit, with Cribbs being in the game as well, as he reasons. Below are some of the plays, quoted in full, that Doerschuk has noted from the Cyclone.
     
  5. Plays in the Cyclone:
    During an 11-on-11 set, Cribbs lined up wide right and came in motion as if to take a reverse. Wallace made a nice fake to Cribbs, sucking away some of the defense. He deftly popped an inside handoff into Jerome Harrison’s gut. Harrison weaved through a wide lane in the middle.

    A short while later, they lined up the same way. This time, Wallace faked an inside handoff to Harrison. Cribbs got the ball on the reverse and steamed toward the corner, needing to get past a couple of possible one-on-one tackles. You know how hard he is to tackle.

    A while later, Cribbs was at quarterback, taking a shotgun snap. He simply took off left and looked for a lane, much the way he did in running eight times for 87 yards in the win over Pittsburgh.
     
  6. Vickers Trying to Out Do Hillis: FB Lawrence Vickers can catch and run too. Grossi reports that Delhomme placed a pass in stride to Vickers over the middle, allowing him to catch and run after beating rookie T.J. Ward.
     
  7. Delhomme's Ugly Pass?: I hope to get more clarification on this play, because if it was intended to be a Hail Mary or something, then it'd be a different story. Grossi claims that Delhomme just "threw a pass up" to WR Chansi Stuckey, who was guarded by three defenders. CB Eric Wright came away with the interception.

    EDIT: Another source claims the pass was thrown during a two-minute drill, which makes a little more sense.
     
  8. Backup Running Backs: Dawg Scooper took some notes on RB Chris Jennings and RB James Davis. Jennings 'ran with power and had a nice spin move.' I wonder if that's the same spin move that I saw in regular season action last year. If it is, while they seemed to work out, I had my doubts whether he could always get away with that.

    Davis, meanwhile, 'showed off his speed' and ran for a ton of yards after the catch on a pass in the flat. Grossi notes that DT Ahtyba Rubin was the closest defender, and admirably tried to chase him down for 25 yards but to no avail.
     
  9. Take a Lap, Steptoe: For the second day in a row, a player had to do a lap after muffing a punt. This morning, it was WR Syndric Steptoe. With that said, there have been much less laps run this year because less mistakes are being made:
    "Guys have stayed onsides more and kept the ball off the ground," stated head coach Eric Mangini. "That’s a good thing."
    Also running a lap was RB Chris Jennings after he fumbled and T.J. Ward scooped up the football.
     
  10. Brownies: FB Peyton Hillis stiff-armed CB Brandon McDonald on a play...While OT Joel Reinders looks massive, he has not been doing very well at his position...CB Eric Wright practiced the nickelback role on the first team, with McDonald and Sheldon Brown lined up on the outside...the Browns have an evening session from 5:45 p.m. to 7:45 p.m.

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Here is a terrific montage video of Day 3's morning session, shot by Daniel Wolf over at Dawg Scooper. I love the amount of plays that were shown in such a short span.

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thebrownsboard.com has seven brief video clips from Day 2’s practice (on Sunday) that were just posted. Here’s the link:

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15157&st=20&start=20

Included in the clips are Cribbs’ muffed punt, Robiskie catching some touchdowns, what Joe Haden did, a big run by Peyton Hillis, and Joe Thomas mauling a defender.

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Thomas mauling a defender

That’s all you needed to put with the link, Chris.

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by dawgtribe on Aug 3, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys.

Long time UT fan here. How’s Colt looking?

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by Brandon Worley on Aug 2, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

just fine as far as we know. not getting a ton of reps, he is third on the depth chart after all.

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by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has had his share of good and bad passes from the two practices I have been too.

Nothing spectacular, he just looks like a rookie QB who is learning the game.

I have sen both he and Delhomme together non-stop before the start of practice, which means they both understand their roles as mentor and student which is a good sign.

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by theW0LF on Aug 2, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I updated the post with a link to a YouTube video that Dawg Scooper made of today’s practice. Great stuff. Link Again Here.

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Delhomme has done nothing to “deserve the job” (other than sign a nice contract). I hope Seneca gets a shot to win the job out right. I think Mangini will give him the opportunity.

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by realmccoy on Aug 2, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

From what I’ve seen, I wouldn’t be surprised if Wallace is brought in many times during games to play quarterback and keep defenses off balance. (Especially if Cribbs is in.)

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by theW0LF on Aug 2, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

right Delhomme has done nothing to earn the job, except take a team to the playoffs consistently for years.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 2, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, because… KOLT MACOY IS UH WINER

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

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by SpecialBrownie on Aug 2, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what you are saying is that all that stuff out of the players, coaches, and front office personnel’s mouths about leadership and presence and on-field performance is probably ignorable?

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by rufio on Aug 2, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ultimately I think the Browns have to do something more with Cribbs in the wildcat other than just having him run. Granted, he’s scary good when he does that, but I think he could be scary better if the D had to wonder what he was actually going to do with the ball.

by JustBob on Aug 2, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I expect Seneca to be used this way, which is why I don’t think it would be exactly fair to call it a “platoon” at QB. Wallace may not be able to throw at a Peyton Manning level, but he can throw. And he can run.

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by rufio on Aug 2, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually surprised by the quality of his throws in the highlight video that was plugged in on one of the threads. I don’t know about his decision making, but he has a nice arm.

by JustBob on Aug 3, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m really liking what I’m hearing about the browns this season. I can see them making some good steps toward respectability this year.

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by brownsboy14 on Aug 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’m not sure if its a good thing that I continually read that TJ Ward is getting burned so that he learns from mistakes during practice sessions before games, or that is a really bad thing because he just can’t cover anyone???

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by Kimble_79 on Aug 3, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a bit concerning, but too early to panic.

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by Roger Dorn on Aug 4, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is probably too early to tell with any seriousness. It is always bad for the D/good for the O when someone is getting burned.

However, this is a game where half a second is 4.4 vs. 4.9. It is probably the case that Ward is swimming in the playbook right now, and that he cannot react and play naturally. This could easily slow him down for 1/2 sec at a time on a couple of plays per day.

Thinking not playing = slow defense.

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by rufio on Aug 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. the one thing I always had confidence about with ward is that he was just a ‘player’. I loved his instincts and though he wasn’t that fast, he played fast because of his high effort/motor and the fact that he had great instincts and always was around the ball. I would be worried if he still looked a step slow after learning the playbook (which I hope is the issue holding him back).

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by bross09 on Aug 4, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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