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Eric Mangini Cancels Practice, Brett Favre to "Retire" Again

There won't be any Cleveland Browns training camp reports for Day 4, because Eric Mangini has called practice off. Tuesday was originally scheduled to be closed off to the public, but the team would've practiced in front of the media still. Mangini made the decision to just have the players be involved with meetings with the coaches instead, per the Plain Dealer.

Barry McBride over at the OBR noted that the media was told yesterday that practice would be canceled, but he wanted the media to keep it secret so he could surprise the players. Could this be another sign that Mangini is becoming a more player-friendly coach?

Mangini responded, with a chuckle, "I think I'm player-friendly every year."

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The Brett Favre Saga

So, with the day off, we can discuss some other news in football, such as that of veteran quarterback Brett Favre retiring for a third time, reportedly. Favre played for the Minnesota Vikings last year and took on the Browns in Week 1. While Cleveland sacked him four times, Favre was still efficient enough in victory.

Right now, I still don't buy into the announcement. I can easily imagine the Vikings trying to play hardball with a statement like, "Come on Favre, are you ready or not?" Then, Favre might respond with, "you know what, my ankle doesn't feel as good as I had hoped, so I'm going to have to retire." When that ankle feels better in a couple of weeks, what's going to stop Favre from giving Minnesota a call and then being inserted into the starting lineup Week 1?

You can follow the SB Nation stream on Favre here; the latest word is that in Brad Childress' press conference, he said that Favre did not tell him yet that he's not coming back. Mmmm hmmm.

How's Derek Anderson Doing?

Even though many of you aren't fond of Yahoo Sports' Jason Cole, he visited the Arizona Cardinals training camp yesterday and had this report on QB Derek Anderson:

There’s an old saying about quarterbacks I once heard from long-time NFL scout and executive Tom Braatz while I was in college. He said really good quarterbacks shouldn’t miss throws in practice. They should hit everything, particularly in seven-on-seven drills where there’s no pass rush.

That brings me to Cardinals backup QB Derek Anderson, who has a great arm and is a really good dude, the type of guy you cheer for because he’s funny and engaging. However, Anderson is also a Nuke LaLoosh thrower (not to mention that he’s a bit of a knucklehead, too). Anyway, during a series of five throws to receivers who were running skinny posts against air, Anderson missed badly twice.

Now, some people will defend Anderson, pointing out he was a Pro Bowler in 2007 with Cleveland. Yeah, but if you remember, his top three receivers that season were Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow and Joe Jurevicius. Each of them is at least 6-foot-3. Get the point? At least the good news for Anderson is that the Cardinals also have a lot of tall receivers.

Donte Stallworth Off to Good Start in Baltimore

Former Cleveland Browns receiver Donte Stallworth is off to a positive start with Baltimore, according to Ravens Insider:

So far, Stallworth has had an excellent camp. He has had several long catches for touchdowns, but also has run precise routs on the short ones. More importantly, he has shown great acceleration and keeps making yards after the catch, which was a problem for Ravens receivers last season.

Of course, some will say the receivers are competing against second-rate cornerbacks, but they can only play against the players who line up against them. According to several players, Stallworth had a strong offseason in the weight room and has re-dedicated himself to getting into the best shape possible.

Next Practice

The Browns will take the field for two practice sessions on Wednesday. The morning session will be from 8:45 a.m. to 10:45 a.m, and the evening session will be from 5:45 p.m. to 7:45 p.m.

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I won’t believe he’s officially retired until week 2.

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Aug 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I won’t believe he’s officially retired until he’s dead.

And even then, it’s kinda iffy.

by BrownDawg1409 on Aug 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Zombie Favre would still be like a little kid on the field, according to every announcer in the world.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zombie Ninja Favre would actually be pretty cool though.

by BrownDawg1409 on Aug 4, 2010 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Enthusiastically agreed. Hopefully by the time he passes, science will be able to make that happen.

by Onyx Lightning on Aug 4, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we should have kept Stallworth, at least for this year.

by BrutalMovement on Aug 3, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

He should send an apology to all Browns fans.

He was immature and disrespected the opportunity he had. He’s lucky to have a second chance. Unfortunately, he needed to go to another team for that opportunity. He burned all of his bridges here.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 3, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he made a gigantic mistake, to be sure, but how did he burn his bridges here? what did he say or do that would make cleveland fans hate him any more than other fans?

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, what you said.

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
We're the Big Ten, who the F@*# are YOU??!?!?!

by Andrew Tolliver on Aug 3, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing, absolutely nothing.

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Aug 3, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly…its not so much what he said, but what he did. which is stated above

A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths --- Steven Wright

by Kimble_79 on Aug 3, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he ducked the Ravens twice with “practice injuries”. go back and look at his year in Cleveland, he conveniently was injured during every week of practice that involved a physical defense that year. PLEASE, go back and look at it!

by L Train on Aug 3, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in the hell are you talking about?

The man made a terrible mistake that could have been avoided, yes but sought to amend his faults in every way possible. It was said the man was remorseful and cooperative whenever he could have been.

And even then, what the hell did he do to the Browns that would’ve made us hate him? Go to the Ravens?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go to the Ravens?

Dare I say this was worse than LBJ taking his talent to South Beach.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Aug 3, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Burning bridges” is probably too string a term here. But he did nothing to live up to his contract and was a waste to the team.

Does anyone think he could have gotten a good opportunity to right his career here in Cleveland? He made a terrible mistake for which he took full responsibility; that’s all fine and good, but he did nothing to gain any respect as a football player while here in Cleveland.

And choosing to go to Baltimore could be considered a slap in our face.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we didn’t want him back, that’s why he chose to go to Baltimore.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He went to Baltimore because we didn’t want him and they did. It wasn’t a slap in our face.

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 3, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do know that we kicked him out, he didn’t walk.

And you know why he chose the Ravnes… because he was A FREE AGENT.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and they were one of the few teams that were willing to take a chance on him.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 3, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And more power to them. He deserves the chance.

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
We're the Big Ten, who the F@*# are YOU??!?!?!

by Andrew Tolliver on Aug 4, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. He deserves a 2nd chance, just like vick got.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 4, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he did nothing to live up to his contract

The Browns were the idiots who gave him a contract that he was not worth — it’s not his fault that Phil Savage* was an idiot and overpaid for a subpar receiver.

*Cue kwoog’s defense of Phil Savage’s signing of Stallworth as a genius move.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seemed like a good move at that time. Expensive but if he didn’t step on anyone’s foot and subsequently get himself out of action then he might’ve done alright.

I still blame injuries for that slow start to that 08 season. I like to believe we didn’t suck as much as we did.

by skipkirk on Aug 4, 2010 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t really see a lot of justification for that contract even without hindsight. Stallworth had an injury history and was coming off a mediocre year with the Patriots.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 4, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was never really a #1 receiver and never was much more than a situational deep threat and 3rd option with mediocre hands.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 4, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil’s an Eagle once again.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Aug 4, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree 1 jillion percent.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shocked to hear that DA still sucks.

by Western Reserve on Aug 3, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Oh I see what you did there..

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
We're the Big Ten, who the F@*# are YOU??!?!?!

by Andrew Tolliver on Aug 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to hear about DA as he has a prominent spot on my
My Most Hated Ex Cleveland Athletes list, which is:

1.) Lebron
2.) DA
3.) Sasha
4.) J – Ho
5.) Mark Harper (his missed tackle on the sideline in the “Fumble game” was almost as egregious as the fumble)

Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!

by Chucky Brown on Aug 3, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

At least DA apologized for being an idiot, kinda.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We forgive you for not listing Carlos Boozer at #2. (In retrospect, I now understand why LeBoob didn’t make much of a fuss whenever Boozer was working his magic. Classic one-upsmanship.)

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 3, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boozer’s an A Hole, but for soem reason he doesnt conjure up the kind of loathing I have for the others

Paxson’s probably closer to the list

Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!

by Chucky Brown on Aug 3, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Boozer screwed a blind guy.

That is quite a high level of doucheness.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 5, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This. He’s really high on my list.

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 5, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prediction:

Stallworth will be injured by the time we play the Ravens.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 3, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Prediction:

The Ravens will be wearing purple.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 3, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Black, but nice try.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Browns, however, will continue to sport those nice looking brown pants.

by BrownDawg1409 on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we doing that again this year?

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Aug 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

DBN Grammar Police. Watch you're language.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 3, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for even more proof… they’re playing the Browns.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends whether it’s home or away.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 3, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we’re both wrong if away. This pertains to their home games or if we choose to wear white at home, quit adding in variables that don’t pertain to the exact argument! haha.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They wear black or purple at home. Why is this even an argument?

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Aug 3, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Chris and BB made it one.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

There isn’t an argument, just a correction.


In November 2004 the team introduced an alternate uniform design featuring black jerseys and solid black pants with black socks. The all-black uniform was first worn for a home game against the Cleveland Browns, entitled “Black Sunday”, that resulted in a Ravens win. The uniform has since been worn for select prime-time national game broadcasts and other games of significance.
-Wikipedia

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Aug 3, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wiki…

And you never know…

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

worn for select prime-time national game broadcasts and other games of significance

So we shouldn’t have to see them this year.

by JustBob on Aug 4, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did last year if I remember correctly.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 4, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it also was a prime-time game. that won’t be the case this year.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 5, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s never post this picture every again. I don’t like looking at it.

by Simmsinns on Aug 3, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because of Reed or Garcia?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 3, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see Favre suiting up when 2-a-days are over.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Aug 3, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I was actually about to leave a similar comment:

Favre to retire, than un-retire after training camp. It’s an arm thing, see.

by Simmsinns on Aug 3, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s done this every year for the last 3,4 years. I see him coming back after training camp every year, until someone finally gets the balls to tell him that he won’t play unless he comes to camp. Hopefully that happens soon.

"We don't take no prisoners! I say we kill'em, every other team! That way we don't got to feed them or nothing!
-Coach Kevin Hockett

by brownsboy14 on Aug 3, 2010 10:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’d enjoy that, but somehow I don’t see Minnesota playing hardball with Favre as long as he’s upright and walking.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Aug 4, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Any chance we could proposition Favre for a player/coach position?

by mooncamping on Aug 4, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

No thank you.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Aug 4, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes perfect sense since we’re so used to getting jerked around by selfish players who don’t have the decency to be honest about their true intentions. A marriage made in heaven.

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 5, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank god I can read sarcasm, that would mean not so much, I guess.

by mooncamping on Aug 5, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

When he was being forced into retirement by GB I would have loved to see him come to CLE. I was a big Favre fan in his GB years. But the way he’s handled things since has been terrible. If he came to the Browns as a QB coach, I would say absolutely yes. As a player, no.

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 6, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that´s the bridge I was trying to build here.

by mooncamping on Aug 6, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forced into retirement?

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Aug 6, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He was losing his starting job simply because the GB FO was anxious to start playing Rodgers. Who knows what the discussions were. Perhaps they were in fact encouraging him to retire. Perhaps he was told he would be 2nd string and couldn’t accept that. Either way I’m sure he felt his hand being forced.

Colt McCoy... the cure for Cleveland's Eric Berry man-crush.

by dawgtribe on Aug 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

MKC tweeted that Lauvao was practicing with 1st team again today.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 4, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

this is good news.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Aug 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is great. maybe then there is a chance that all of our rookies (besides McCoy) drafted in the first few rounds play a large role. I have a feeling ward will, and hardesty will once he is healthy (and its fairly obvious haden will play a significant role), and if Lauvao does, that is 4 out of our first 5 picks (and I give the team slack since one pick was a QB.

If our later round picks can see the field too, I will be ecstatic.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 4, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we know if this was a situation where St. Clair and Pashos were both out and it was Lauvao and Womack at RG RT?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not know unfortunately.

"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James

by Roger Dorn on Aug 4, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think on the new thread for practice it did say that St. Clair and Pashos were healthy today. I think it said something like Pashos/Lauvao as the first team and St. Clair/Womack on the 2nd.

but this is good news, esepecially if it means we can use Womack as that ‘swing lineman’ backup (G/T) which is what I think he’s best at.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 4, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Pashos legitimately wins the RT job and Lauvao legitimately wins the RG job (meaning both are significant upgrades vs. last year), I really like our line this year.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 4, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Aug 5, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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