Fantasy Football: Official Dawgs By Nature League Draft Results
by Chris Pokorny on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM EDT
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PrintThe official Dawgs By Nature CBSSports.com Fantasy Football Commissioner League held its draft Sunday night at 9:00 p.m., and we had a remarkable turn out: all 12 participants were in attendance! Thanks to everyone involved; this is the first time I think I've been in league this size with maximum participation.
Below will be a mini-review of how each team's draft went. The order in which the teams are listed are not based on a ranking, but rather the order of the snake draft.
- sleepy042 - Sleepy's Knightmares: Instead of going with the common move of taking Chris Johnson first overall, sleepy drafted quarterback Drew Brees with the first overall pick. This is a strategy I was against in an earlier post I made this offseason, because I said that it could really limit your team's running back depth. That's exactly what happened, especially after sleepy took receiver Greg Jennings in the second round.
Beyond Jennings, sleepy is a bit thin at the receiver position, but he does have two good tight ends (Jason Witten and Ben Watson). At running back, he'll have to bank on Jahvid Best, Marion Barber, Thomas Jones, Reggie Bush, and Leon Washington to carry the load. Those running backs are either untested or are in two- or three-man competitions, so it's a significant risk.
Browns Players: TE Ben Watson
- Ryan Kelsey - Dayton Doggs: Last year's fantasy sensation Chris Johnson fell right into Kelsey's lap. After that, Ryan went back-to-back with two great picks at the receiver position: Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall. Marshall could be hit-or-miss, but I'm expecting him to be targeted often. In the later rounds, Ryan also snagged sleeper Mike Wallace of the Pittsburgh Steelers at the receiver position.
With the good start to the draft that Ryan had, he struck nicely at quarterback later on with Carson Palmer (Round 7) and Donovan McNabb (Round 9). Those are two guys that Ryan can rotate in and out of the lineup each week and manage some good matchups, despite not drafting either quarterback very high. Ryan's remaining running backs have potential; he has Knowshon Moreno from Denver and both of the Giants' backs. Former Brown Kellen Winslow is his tight end.
Browns Players: WR Joshua Cribbs
- notthatnoise - Shaun Rogers' Stomach: The running back order starts getting a little predictable after the Johnson pick, as NTN selected the Vikings' Adrian Peterson. In round two, NTN went ahead and grabbed one of the league's top quarterbacks in Matt Schaub.
He took the two receivers who are the No. 1 guy on their teams with pass-happy quarterbacks throwing to them in the NFC -- Marques Colston and Percy Harvin. I can't complain about either of those picks, although Colston could have hit-or-miss weeks here and there if Brees spreads the ball around to his many other wideouts. NTN snagged one of the best tight ends in Dallas Clark and will feature the 49ers' defense. If I have a complaint, it's that I think he'll have a tough time filling his second RB and his WR/RB/TE flex position on a consistent basis. Sorry, Felix Jones, Willis McGahee, and Brian Robiskie aren't exactly thrilling players to fill two spots with.
Browns Players: WR Brian Robiskie, K Phil Dawson
- Chris Pokorny - Pokorny Unleashed: Wow, this guy was fantastic. With bias probably included in this description, here we go: I kicked off the first round by drafting Maurice Jones-Drew. I'm not really a huge fan of taking Jones-Drew, just because I always worry about the Jaguars' inconsistent offense. However, there's no doubting that the guy produces I guess, so I felt obligated to take him. In the next round I grabbed Tom Brady right away and was overjoyed to get him. The Patriots still lack a dominant run game, and Brady will have Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and others at his disposal again after hopefully rebounding from last year's slightly "down" effort.
I couldn't be happier with my depth at the wide receiver and tight end positions. From rounds three to five, I was able to get Miles Austin, Chad Ochocinco, and Antonio Gates in that order. By my book, I potentially got the best receiver and best tight end, along with a compelling threat on Cincinnati. Beyond the starters, I also drafted T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Steve Breaston. Houshmandzadeh was a disappointment for me last year, but he's the No. 1 guy in Seattle. Breaston gets an opportunity to start with a fire-happy Derek Anderson.
I thought Clinton Portis was a good bargain pick for the sixth round. His injury history is scary, but between him and Michael Bush of the Raiders, I think I can manage. If the Bills go the crazy route and feature Marshawn Lynch over C.J. Spiller too, I have that option.
Remember my comments about drafting two defenses a week or so ago? Well, I wasn't kidding. I came away from the draft with the Ravens (Round 7) and the Steelers (Round 11). I can't wait to utilize them both, based on who faces the weaker opponent. The Steelers fell so low because Browns fans didn't want to draft them apparently. I draft to win. You hear that people? ;)
One other quick note: I was booed for drafting Derek Anderson in the last round. I think it's worth the chance if he ends up having great chemistry with Larry Fitzgerald (i.e. Fitzgerald makes him look good).
Browns Players: N/A
- TheDriveStillHurts: Going with Ray Rice in the first round, this almost looks like the "all-youth, potential breakout" type of team (except for Brett Favre, who is the veteran captain of the ship). Roddy White and Wes Welker are solid picks at the receiver position, and as others noted during the draft, the selection of Matt Forte could turn out huge given Mike Martz' history with utilizing running backs.
Also at running back is Rashard Mendenhall. I don't like him, maybe because he's a Steeler, but he'll definitely get the touches. One concern I look at here is the quarterback situation. The rest of his roster shakes out with the likes of Vernon Davis, Austin Collie, Mohamed Massaquoi, Santana Moss, and Devin Hester. Again -- lots of young talent that could be good if they all come through.
Browns Players: WR Mohamed Massaquoi
- rufio: I'm not thrilled when I look at this team to be honest, except for a core group of three players (Frank Gore, Ryan Grant, and Donald Driver) who I think will have to carry the team along with the Eagles' LeSean McCoy as the flex guy. I am not digging the thought of quarterbacks Eli Manning or Matt Cassel being mass producers at their position.
After Driver, rufio's receivers include Santonio Holmes, Jeremy Maclin, Derrick Mason, and James Jones. Holmes might be a great pick, but I don't envision the Jets throwing the ball a lot, and then do have three other targets who will want the football. Tight end Zach Miller has great upside, but I always question the ability of a Raiders quarterback to disperse the ball well enough. rufio, I look forward to tearing your team apart.
Browns Players: RB Montario Hardesty
- Buckeye Brad: I'm starting to get tired or writing these reports on each team, because I feel like I'm repeating myself in a way through some of them. Anyway...Brad broke the first-round trend of five straight running backs by drafting receiver Andre Johnson. He might have reached a tiny bit early for Dwayne Bowe depending on who you ask, but I can't blame him: I think Bowe, compared to last year, can break out again. With Mike Sims-Walker also in the mix, Brad has a nice trio of receivers to roll with.
I'm not so convinced with the running back situation. I like Carolina, but I'm not confident in their ability to score often, so DeAngelo Williams' stock is in question to me. Beanie Wells is also a question mark -- it's hard to tell where he stands on the Cardinals and how much Tim Hightower will play near the goal line. Tony Romo isn't a top quarterback fantasy wise, but he's close enough to the top to manage on a fantasy roster. Tony Gonzalez rounds off the roster as his tight end.
Browns Players: N/A
- Roger Dorn: Dorn took the second quarterback of the draft, and the one who might be the best: Aaron Rodgers. With his ability to throw the ball very well and how often he runs, he can rack up fantasy points quickly every week. With Larry Fitzgerald and Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles taken over the next two picks, one thing starts ringing in my mind: this sounds like a draft I usually like to have (at least for the start of it). Dorn also has Jerome Harrison -- with Harrison and Charles, last year's end-of-the-year thrillers at running back, he's hoping one or both of them turn out. The Bills naming C.J. Spiller as the starter would only add to the icing on the cake.
Dorn's depth at receiver isn't too bad either: he has Michael Crabtree, who will play his first full season, and Pierre Garcon of the Colts. Having Matthew Stafford as his backup quarterback is also a bonus, since I expect good things from Detroit's offense this year. Overall, I'm fairly pleased with this team.
Browns Players: RB Jerome Harrison
- Dawg Nuts: One thing came to mind after seeing Dawg Nuts' draft: this guy is nuts. Only kidding. He took a lot of time to make some of his picks, carefully trying to make the correct decisions. For the most part, I think it paid off. In my prior post on top player rankings, I listed Peyton Manning as my top quarterback choice for the sake of consistency, and that's who Dawg Nuts got.
At running back and wide receiver, there is a nice balance of depth, although not elite, players at each position. The running backs include Cedric Benson, Pierre Thomas, and Tim Hightower. The receivers are Anquan Boldin, Steve Smith (Panthers), and Hines Ward. I don't see this as a powerhouse team, but rather one that can consistently compete throughout the season to contend for the playoffs.
Browns Players: QB Jake Delhomme
- rockybrown: He certainly didn't win any fans over with two of his picks -- QB Ben Roethlisberger and WR Braylon Edwards. I think Edwards is worth the late-round pick due to his potential, but then again it's hard to bank on him dropping out of his drop funk without a pass-heavy offense.
rockybrown has good talent at the running back position because his first three draft picks were running backs -- Michael Turner, Steven Jackson, and Ronnie Brown. That's not bad if you ask me, especially since he also got Joseph Addai. rockybrown stashed Vincent Jackson on his bench in case anyone signs him (in the NFL), so his starting receivers are Steve Smith (Giants) and Terrell Owens. That's not a bad combo, but the jury is still out on how Owens will do in Cincy.
Browns Players: N/A
- golanbatrac: I like the receivers (Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne, DeSean Jackson), and he was able to get all three because they were his first three picks. I also like his defense (Jets). I'm not too high on his only quarterback, Matt Ryan, or any of his running backs though.
The Texans' Arian Foster is a breakout candidate, but Houston has always had problems finding the guy at running back. After that, he took a huge cluster of low-level running backs -- Cadillac Williams, LaDainian Tomlinson, Chestor Taylor, Peyton Hillis, and Steve Slaton. This team will live and die by the chance that one of those cluster of running backs sees the starter ahead of him go down or be benched.
Browns Players: FB Peyton Hillis
- Bernie19Kosar - Holmgren's Stache: Finally, we're at the last team! Taking the opposite approach of golan, Bernie went running back heavy early on, which saw his team a bit thin at receiver. He went young at running back, grabbing San Diego's Ryan Mathews and the Jets' Shonn Greene.
The key hear for Bernie's team is the Philip Rivers to Malcolm Floyd potential. I used this strategy last year with Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald on my team, and it worked out well. The receiver depth after Floyd goes to Devin Aromashadu and Hakeem Nicks. Hmmmm. I definitely applaud the pick of Jermichael Finley though; I was really hoping to get him in addition to Gates as my flex receiver. With the Vikings defense on his team, I think Bernie needs to hope one of his many backup running backs becomes a starter during the season, and then trade for a better wide receiver.
Browns Players: N/A
Please feel free to leave any comments you have below about the draft! Sorry if I sounded stupid in my analysis, it was kind of tiresome on the brain doing this. Vote for your favorite team below. I don't know if public access to the league is allowed, but if it is, here are the full rosters.
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I like my team, but if one of my big names has an off week (I’m looking at you AP) my lack of depth at RB and WR will really show. It was difficult picking Colston over Austin, but as I’ve said a couple of times before, I’m a big fan of consistency, and Colston has it. Also, picking up Colston mid-season during his rookie year won me a championship, and I’m a pretty superstitious person when it comes to sports.
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I did the same with colston. I think you may have the best starters (I personally think Peterson is a better Fantasy guy than Chris Johnson b/c he is like peyton manning at RB with consistency and is a better goal line back), but I am not wild about Willis McGahee or your other backups. I like Jones and Robo…but not really if they are competing for a flex spot.
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I like how the draft fell for RK, so I voted for him. There are no clear cut bad teams to me, which I can usually identify after the draft.
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I voted for Chris. He had the best write up. ;)
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
There are no clear cut bad teams to me, which I can usually identify after the draft.
If I had to identify who I thought had the worsts drafts in terms of fantasy draft value and/or biggest weaknesses, I’d say those with the worst drafts were: Sleepy, Rufio, rockybrown, Golan.
Of course I can’t see into the future, I could be dead wrong.
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I completely disagree on Rufio. I think he has one of the most solid teams top to bottom. Gore and Grant are fantasy money and 2 of the most consistent backs in the league (fantasy wise and on the field). mason and Driver are money and Holmes and Maclin could have good seasons. I think Eli Manning is a bit underrated from a fantasy standpoint (I think he is about as good as Palmer or McNabb will be). Miller was an excellent, improving TE with Jamarcus at the helm. Campbell has always liked going to his TEs, with chris cooley. I think he will love having Miller and Miller could end up being a top 5 fantasy TE.
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i was looking at versatility in terms of my draft. i passed on chris johnson as not including the injured terrelle davis the 2000 yd rushers avg 1035 yds (4.3) the following years. everyone is going to target johnson which plays to the TEN OC as he’ll be able to open up the offense. which is why i picked up kenny britt later (atleast i think i got him).
Brees is proven & my backup is henne who has some upside.
i like my RB setup as i can plug & play based on matchups. with the NFL being a passing league now & TE’s in vogue i wanted guys who i can work with week to week. i’ve also been burned way too many times by relying on RB’s who turn around & get injured. i can also flex watson or witten to make up for a bad WR setup.
i grabbed the chargers defense out of habit & i think the glaring weakness for me will be week 10. the draft was pretty cool as no one was hostile or rude & it was good fun.
it was good fun except for when chat didn’t work.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 31, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
In my opinion, you should have factored in value. Had you picked Chris Johnson, I’m guessing you could have easily traded him for an elite QB and an additional key player.
Or, based on seeing how you feel about CJ, you could have gone Peterson then drafted a top tier QB with you second round pick.
- overall is a great place to be, I just think you could have gotten a lot more fantasy potential of out your team with that draft position. But, that is just my opinion, only time will tell…
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I agree about Johnson. I think he is going to come back to earth some and I think Peterson has a very good shot (putting my odds at about 49%) of finishing as the #1 fantasy RB. however, I think Peterson has about a 3% chance of finishing as the 3rd best fantasy RB (whereas I see the odds of CJ being about 15%). I will take the guy who has been a top 3 fantasy back every year since he joined the league. the only thing that stops him from being first is guys who have one spectacular fantasy season, then fade a bit (like Westbrook, Turner, and Deangelo Williams)
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I think Ryan has the best team. If Chris picked up one RB that can produce points, he wins.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
My thoughts on my draft picks:
Round 1 (pick 11): Randy Moss – I like receivers in rounds 1 & 2. Moss and Brady are both in a contract year and both appear to have a chip on their shoulder. I would have taken Moss ahead of Andre Johnson had he still been available.
Round 2 (pick 14): Reggie Wayne – I debated taking Brady here, but didn’t want my first two picks to be on the same team. Wayne comes with the same caveat as Moss: age. But it’s hard to argue with his consistency and the fact that he hasn’t missed a game in something like 8 years.
Round 3 (pick 35): DeSean Jackson – I still can’t believe Jackson fell to the end of the third round. Steal of the draft. Even moreso once we learned that his special teams scores will count as well.
Round 4 (pick 38): Arian Foster – This is where drafting at either extreme of a snake draft comes into play. My strategy coming into the draft was to take wide receivers in rounds 1 & 2, and then Running Backs in 3 & 4. I felt I had to get a running back here, and Foster was the best of the rest. Had I waited, I don’t think he would have been there 24 picks later.
Round 5: Matt Ryan – One of a trio of QBs I thought were under rated. He won’t win weeks for me, but he won’t lose them either. Steady point producer with good weapons. Would have taken him in round 6 had Witten, Gates and Clark not come off the board just ahead of this pick.
Round 6: Jets Defense – My worst pick. Afraid of a run on the good defenses (which never materialized), I jumped a round early and cost myself a number two running back (Addai and Jacobs were still on the board). Would like to have this pick back.
Round 7: Cadillac Williams – Played 16 games last year. If he plays 16 again this year, he should get a decent number of touches. One of many backs I can sub in at RB2 based on matchup.
Round 8: Owen Daniels – Debated taking Cooley here since Daniels was on the PUP (just cleared to play yesterday). Was on pace last year for 1000+ yards and 10 TDs. I like this pick.
Round 9: Chester Taylor – A pass catching back in Mike Martz system. Same upside as Forte, but 2-and-a-half rounds later.
Round 10: Ladanian Tomlinson – Praying for an injury to Shonne Green. Still should see a decent number of touches in a run first offense.
Round 11: Dexter McCluster – lines up at running back and wide receiver. May return kicks. Fast. Hope he develops into a decent sub by my WR byes.
Round 12: Peyton Hillis – Leads the Browns in touches in the preseason, and always seems to make good on every opportunity. Shot in the dark.
Round 13: Steve Slaton – Handcuff for Foster. Two seasons removed from 1000 yards.
Round 14: David Akers – Good kicker on a good offense with a first year QB. Should be busy.
Round 15: Rob Gronkowski – Patriots rookie TE. Has looked good in the preseason. Handcuff in case Owen Daniels wasn’t ready come week 1.
All told, I’m pretty happy with my draft. I’ve got 7 players who are every week starters, and a bevy of running backs who are an injury away from getting a lot of work. If I can play the matchups right, I’ll be competitive every week.
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You really need your WRs to fully carry your team, but with those three, I wouldn’t put it beyond them. Personally, I think the rest of the team is just to weak to expect playoffs by comparison to the competition. Matt Ryan is great, but doesn’t reach is full fantasy potential on a run heavy team. A lot of QBs offer 15-30+, Ryan is more of a 10-20.
About the defense, I still feel most of the time they’ll rarely ever win you a game. You can get very solid defenses in the later rounds, (i.e. Dallas, Philly, Pitt, San Fran, and the like). The fact that Addia was available makes it all the more painful.
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After Ryan, the best QBs remaining were Palmer, Kolb, McNabb, Cutler, and Roethlisberger.
That’s Noodle Arm, Rookie, Grampa, No-Line and Suspended. To take a better QB I would have had to pass on DeSean Jackson in round 3 to get Rivers or Taken Eli Manning ahead of rufio in round 4. I like Ryan more than I like Eli.
The elite QBs were gone before my first pick, and the second tier disappeared in round 2.
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I think Kolb will finish with a much better fantasy year than Ryan. Yes, he’s a first year starter, but I don’t think Rodgers-1st-year-like numbers are out of reach. Reid is still pass happy. I’m fine with the not taking of an elite QB if their not of value at where your picking. I was more of just commenting on Matt Ryan in general.
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Kolb was the only one I thought twice about when I picked Ryan. I agree that he has the potential to put up better numbers than Ryan though. Doubling up DeSean Jackson and Kolb seemed like too much of a risk.
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Kolb is a bust this early. Good thing the Browns didn’t get him. I’d give him a year or two.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really high on Kolb, especially with those playmakers around him in Philly.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 1, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Kolb is my backup behind Favre — I am pretty high on one of those two working out.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 1, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Ew. i would have taken Ryan too. I may have picked Kolb, but Ryan was the much safer pick and with Starters, I usually think playing it a bit safe with starters is good (unless you have a very safe backup). I do disagree with you about Eli and ryan. I think Eli is very good and will be better this year, but I do think they are both underrated a bit.
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You got Foster and Slaton? Foster is going to be the starter. You might want to ditch Slaton and find another backup.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can afford to do it, I actually like getting a question mark RBs backup as a cheap security blanket. I liked that pick.
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And it’s not like I left anyone great on the board in round 13.
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Good point.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
there is no guarantee foster is the ‘starter’ or gets 200+ carries. Its always nice getting a handcuff. Plus, even if slaton is the backup, because they have little depth at the position, and because very few teams run a 1 RB system anymore (only if you have an elite guy…so not Houston), Slaton as a backup will still get 100-150 touches. I think Slaton will get more touches honestly than his other pickup of Hillis…and slaton I think has the potential for more.
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you have some interesting RBs. i am not a huge fan of Cadillac williams, but Chester Taylor was a nice pickup. foster is a good pick, and its always nice to get a sleeper. Slaton could actually surpass Foster in fantasy points, depending on who gets the touches. I think you got a complete steal on slaton who was a victim of the vengeful owners syndrome. Sometimes young guys have one really good season, then when they disappoint their second year, to many, they become fantasy kryptonite. However, they often get to the point where they become undervalued and a steal. Slaton was a complete steal there…btw, where did Forte go in this draft?
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Not as much of a steal as I expected…but a nice value for him. Right around there with Jacobs and Amhad bradshaw (both of whom I think he will possibly outperform)
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Sleepy did you all a pretty big favor, increasing RB availability by one pick.
I really like Chris’ draft, elite RB, solid players at every key position, very well rounded. Favorite to win this league (for now).
I do have to give props to Bernie, he made fantastic picks at 12 and 13. Those two can carry with the amount of carries they get alone, if they turn out to do great things with those carries, well then… I wouldn’t be too worried about the WR depth, considering where he was at, and what else he has.
Shonn Greene #1 candidate for Ray Rice of 2010.
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Here is how mine breaks down:
Round 1. Ryan Mathews: I had the last pick in the first round, so I was pumped to get a workhorse RB in Mathews. I think he will be well worth it.
Round 2. Shonn Greene: I thought about grabbing a WR here, but the chance to get Greene was too much for me to pass on. Personally I think Greene will be a 1,200 yard RB, so I was jacked to get him.
Round 3: Philip Rivers: I was crushed that Golan took DeSean Jackson the pick before me. Could not believe he went WR, WR, WR. So I decided to grab the last elite QB. He may be a dick, but he can spin it.
Round 4: Jonathan Stewart: I almost went Foster but decided to gamble here instead. I filled the flex position with Stewart who is a top 5 guy if DeAngelo ever gets hurt again. Even if he doesn’t, Stewart is a good bet to get 10+ TD’s.
Round 5: Jermicheal Finley: I think this guy will be the top TE in fantasy this season. He is going to give me WR numbers at TE, which is good considering I still don’t have a WR.
Round 6: Hakeem Nicks: Could have gone with Maclin but I think Nicks could really come into his own this season. This one could haunt me.
Round 7: Malcolm Floyd: I love this pick because he is a number one WR on a high powered offense and he gives me the double dip with Rivers. I think Floyd will be a top 20 WR. Not bad for the 7th round.
Round 8: Sidney Rice: I know he is injured but this league has an injury slot. so I can stash him for 9 weeks and then have a top 10 WR on my team. It will be like making a trade without giving anything up.
Round 9: Vikings Defense: Vikings defense is always solid. What else can you ask for in a fantasy defense?
Round 10: Donald Brown: Joesph Addai runs like a pansy. Joesph Addai always seems to be nicked up. Hence, I like Donald Brown.
Round 11: Devin Aromashodu: Could be awesome, could be garbage. Either way it was an eleventh round pick.
Round 12: Bernard Scott: I don’t trust Cedric Benson over 16 games. Bernard Scott could be an awesome fill in.
Round 13: Fred Jackson: I know Spiller is getting all the pub, but Fred Jackson is still the starter. In round 13? Sweet.
Round 14: Mason Crosby: Kicker on what I think will be the highest scoring offense in the NFL. I like it.
Round 15: Kevin Smith: Again, if Best stays healthy, then no big deal. If Best does get hurt, Smith is the starting RB in what I think is a high powered offense.
I like my draft. I just need to survive at WR until Rice gets healthy.
Round 3: Philip Rivers: I was crushed that Golan took DeSean Jackson the pick before me. Could not believe he went WR, WR, WR.
I really didn’t want to take a third wide receiver, but there was no way I could justify passing on Jackson that late. I would have been handing you the championship.
Round 4: Jonathan Stewart: I almost went Foster but decided to gamble here instead.
That makes me feel better about the Foster pick. I wasn’t the only one eyeing him that early. Had you taken Foster, I would have been all over Stewart. I think he deposes Williams and has a huge year.
Also: I think you had the best late round draft of anyone. Lots of good players and sleepers. Look forward to seeing how your draft (3 RBs in the first four picks) stacks up to mine (three WRs in the first four picks) as the season progresses.
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I really wanted to grab Sidney Rice and stash him for later, but I was hoping to do it a round or two later than you did.
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by notthatnoise on Aug 31, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Rivers is great off the field. I would hardly call him a “dick”. He’s a warrior on the field. Great pick!!
I grabbed Smith too. Best is a twig, so I assume Smith will become the starter soon.
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by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, Rivers is definitely a dick. Even in preseason games.
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Read about what he does around my area. He’s a good man. So what if he’s emotional on the field. You can talk trash if you can back it up.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Aug 31, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You can do charity work and still be a dick.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
See also: Brown, Jim.
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by golanbatrac on Aug 31, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
See Also: James, Lebron.
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by bross09 on Sep 1, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
especially since I’m pretty sure NFL players are required to do some type of charity.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Aug 31, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but not required to create charity programs. "Rivers of Hope" is great.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 1, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Vick has been a principal in two charitable foundations, the Michael Vick Foundation and The Vick Foundation.
In June 2006, nonprofit organizations to support at-risk youth and the after school programs that serve them in the Metro Atlanta and Hampton Roads areas. The inaugural event was held at the prestigious Kingsmill Golf Course in James City County near Williamsburg, Virginia in partnership with The Virginia Tech Alumni Association Tidewater Chapter, and netted more than $80,000 for charity. According to its 2006 federal tax return, the Michael Vick Foundation provided 100 backpacks to poor children in Newport News and paid for an after-school program in 2006
After the Virginia Tech massacre on April 16, 2007, Vick and the United Way donated $10,000 to assist families affected. The Vick Foundation collected donations from communities in Atlanta and Virginia that will be placed in the United In Caring Fund for Victims of the Virginia Tech Tragedy and the special fund at the United Way of Montgomery, Radford and Floyd counties, which serves the Virginia Tech area. The Vick Foundation said the money would be used to provide help with funeral expenses, transportation for family members and other support services.
In 2005, Roethlisberger donated one game check to aid the tsunami relief fund. He has also donated over $100,000 to fund police dogs in Pittsburgh
Both of these guys have charity programs. one is a rapist and the other has a criminal record and spent time in the clink. These programs have done some great things too. Not saying rivers is like these guys, but you can be a D-Bag and still have good charities.
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Now that you and Golan have posted, i think you both guy amazing steals with late round RBs. Fred Jackson I think will outperform Spiller fantasy wise and I think he could outperform your pick of Brown (though I like the pick). I like Aroshmadu too and kevin smith is nice that late.
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I’m fairly pleased with how my team turned out. I’ve played FF for years but always did autodraft, so this was the first time I’d done a live draft. I think I took a little longer on my picks because of that fact, but feel I held my own.
I was very happy with Peyton Manning; having him allowed me to grab Jake Delhomme, who I consider to be a decent backup if he continues his preseason play into the regular season. Jake will be okay for Manning’s bye-week, but if Peyton goes down, I’ve got issues.
I can’t really complain about any of my picks and completely agree with Chris’ assessment: I don’t have a powerhouse, but I think I have a legitimate chance at winning each week and will be disappointed if I don’t make the playoffs.
The low round pick I’m happiest about is Jabar Gaffney, as he may end up the #1 WR in Denver and will be a dutiful sub if that’s the case.
It hurt a little taking Hines Ward, but looking at it objectively I think he’ll help my team.
Tim Hightower will be a good fill-in, provided he gets some goalline touches.
Overall, I thank Chris for including me, the live draft was fun, and I’m ready for the season to start.
I think you had a solid draft. The only questionable pick (IMO) was Anquan Boldin over DeSean Jackson, but that could go either way given Jackson’s multitude of injuries right now.
And I’ll second the thank you to Chris.
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therein lies the problem with fantasy football too: I have to hope for a raven, a steeler, and a bengal to play well. Yuk.
I wanted to note that my team has no Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Broncos, or Braylon Edwardses,
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by Roger Dorn on Aug 31, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m rooting for you, RD.
Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve gotten used it. You just have to remember where to keep your priorities in line.
Browns doing well trumps any and all fantasy needs, money league included. Outside of that, I’ve got no problem with hoping that Mendenhall drops just enough points on some random team to get me a win.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
This ought to be an interesting fantasy season. You could make a case for every one of these teams to make the playoffs.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
It’s amazing how much better the competition tends to be when everyone shows up for the draft.
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and we all post on a football message board, so we have some level of die hard interest in the sport. I noted the difficult in drafting against people that followed football closely.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play."
"But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court." -Lebron James
Admittedly, I put less time than I usually do in preranking and preparing for fantasy football this year, but here’s my breakdown/reasoning:
1. Chris Johnson, RB- I don’t really like him, I think defenses are going to load the box against him, I think he will find it challenging to stay healthy for another full year, and I almost always prefer WRs early over RBs. But there is no way I couldn’t take advantage of a 2500 yd-from-scrimmage-24 y.o. falling to me with the #2 pick.
2. Calvin Johnson, WR- Stafford is improving, as are the Lions… at least on offense. Johnson is one of the most physically gifted WRs I’ve ever seen and with a little luck could become a real steal at the end of round 2.
3. Brandon Marshall, WR- Vastly underrated because of overblown off-the-field stuff. This guy will get lots of targets from an improving QB with a big arm in a good system for WR stats. I knew I was going WR with 2/3 after getting Chris Johnson and these two were the best two I could have hoped for once Moss, Fitz and Andrew Johnson were taken.
4. Knowshawn Moreno, RB- A little reach from my rankings. I felt pressure to get a RB after a long gap in picks. If healthy, he should be a fine #2 RB, but I was hoping for someone a little safer to fall to me.
5. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB- Again, not in love with the pick. But he actually had more touchdowns than Jacobs last year and I wanted a solid number 3. I considered Jacobs, Addai, and Felix Jones.
6. Brandon Jacobs, RB- I couldn’t believe that Jacobs fell to me after another long gap in picks. I was planning on going QB here, but with multiple similar QBs available, I thought I was still ok. If Favre would have fallen a few more picks I would have took him and would have been absolutely in love with my team. Looking back, I should have taken Favre in Round 5 and I would have had only a minor drop in RB level, if any. Oh well…
7. Carson Palmer, QB- I didn’t want to risk not getting one of Palmer or McNabb. And I thought there was a big drop off after them. Palmer has a lot of weapons and hopefully he can start to look like an elite QB again.
8. Mike Wallace, WR- He should fill in nicely for Holmes as the #1 WR for the evil Steelers. I know Ben will miss some games and their passing game will suffer a little for it, but the Steelers love to pass the football (you read that correctly), and I think they’ll be doing a lot of it this year.
9. Donovan McNabb, QB- I took advantage of sleepy here a little. Knowing that he picked Brees in the first round, I didn’t think he would take a QB. Since he had two picks between my 6 and 7 and my 8 and 9, I safely took other guys, that he might have wanted, knowing that my targeted QB would be there two picks later. McNabb is hurt and playing in a less fantasy-friendly environment. Still, I had him ranked way ahead of guys that were drafted much earlier, like Ryan, Kolb, Cutler, E. Manning.
10. Kellen Winslow, TE- I considered TE earlier. But after Gates was gone, I wasn’t going to reach for anyone. Winslow really fell in my lap. Would anyone be shocked if Winslow was top 3 amongst TEs in yds and tds? At 10, I couldn’t ignore that potential. Plus, he’s a soldier. He laughs at injury concerns, has the best hands and is one of the toughest football players I’ve ever had the pleasure to watch. I will enjoy having a reason to root for him.
11. Darren Sproles, RB- I simply look at the flex position as another RB position. So I wanted some depth. I know everyone assumes Ryan Matthews will take LT’s old role as the workhorse- and its clear that Matthews will start. But Sproles is the clear #2, 3rd down back, lead returner, and will get a lot of change-the-pace carries. A perfect low-round pick for fantasy.
12. Chargers’ Defense- Eh, you need one at some point, right? Potential for a lot of sacks- which leads to INTs and fumbles.
13. Josh Cribbs, WR- There seems to be some confusion on how return TDs are considered by the league, at least there was for me. Regardless, Cribbs will get enough touches in the red zone and has big play ability. Worth the flier.
14. Chris Chambers, WR- Shockingly consistent, still a starter, and with a decent QB and a coordinator that likes to throw the ball. I won’t bat an eye if I have to start him any week. My best value pick since McNabb, in my opinion. If he wasn’t here, I would have taken a second defense. I love to have two D’s on the roster, so I can choose the better matchup. In fact, Cribbs roster spot may be in jeopardy, or a trade could be in the works…
15. Adam Vinatieri, K- Surprised that he was here. He says he is 100% and is the kicker for the most consistent offense in the last decade. Plus plays in a dome.
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and these two were the best two I could have hoped for once Moss, Fitz and Andrew Johnson were taken.
I like Moss and Fitz, but Johnson’s looming impeachment is cause for concern.
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by golanbatrac on Aug 31, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Nice! Here’s the obligatory instantrimshot.com link.
Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass
I have posted it before, but Ahmad Bradshaw is going to be strong this season.
Good pick.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 31, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think maybe you took Sproles, Holmes, and cribbs too early (and that great of a D) but a very good top to bottom draft.
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Disagree on Sproles, he was the best back available.
Agree on Cribbs, but I think he has a high ceiling.
Holmes?
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I think I meant mike Wallace…though like cribbs, he has a high Ceiling. i do not know exactly what backs were available. However I do know that fred Jackson and Steve Slaton were available.
Slaton is in a similar situation to Sproles (3rd down back, backup). However, I think Matthews (especially since they pretty much sold the farm to get him) will get significantly more touches than Arian foster. Matthews has more experience in college as the feature back too and carrying the load. Overall, I think Matthews is more involved in the offense than Foster. Slaton also IMO is significantly more likely to become the starter and overall, I think he definitely gets more touches.
I also think Jackson is a very good back who is underrated. ESPN fantasy seems to be predicting a 3 headed attack, however whenever gailey has an offense there is usually one guy who gets a bulk of the carries and usually doesn’t have a ‘RB by committee’. He does like using the #2 back as a 3rd down back, catching out of the backfield, which is a perfect role for spiller. this is how I see it shaking out. Jackson gets a bulk of the carries (between 200-225), CJ spiller gets a lot of touches (45+ catches 100 carries). I see Lynch not even getting 100 touches and being the odd man out.
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I always like to add up the projected points for each teams’ starters at the beginning of a fantasy season. It’s always interesting to look back at the end of the year and see how well the projections match the actual outcome.
chris 1523
dn 1508
ryan 1488
tdsh 1477
golan 1474
brad 1462
ntn 1424
sleepy 1380
bernie 1369
rocky 1369
rufio 1359
dorn 1348
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Nice — 4th place projection is not bad.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I think these ratings are a bit off (though I liked TDSH’s, Golan’s and Ryan’s). Some guys Rufio and Bernie picked are some of the guys I think some of the projections are undervaluing (aromashadu, Mason, Zach Miller Eli, Matthews, Shonne Greene)
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I’ve never used projected points before so I can’t say how much they help. I do know that looking at the Cbssportsline.com player rankings, I completely disagreed with most of it and did not use them at all.
Yeah, the projections are pretty random.
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yeah…I was looking at bills RBs: they have Fred Jackson tied with Lynch for points. Lynch also gets 130+ touches which I think is highly unrealistic. somehow, Lynch they predict is the guy with the most TDs and likely thinking he will get the goal line carries when
a) Jackson is the power back in that backfield so likely he would get touches in the goal line (and probably more than 3 TDs)
b) Lynch seems to be the odd man out right now.
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I thought I’d explain my picks since others did as well.
1 – Andre Johnson – easy pick there with all the top RB’s gone
2 – DeAngelo Williams – don’t love this pick. I wanted to take a RB since I didn’t get one in the first round and had my eye on Steven Jackson but he was taken three picks before me. I thought Williams was the best of what’s left, considering Carolina isn’t going to have much of a passing game, but Ryan Grant went right afterwards and he might turn out to be the better pick.
3 – Tony Romo – I thought about taking a QB in the second but there were still many great ones available so I figured that I could wait until the third. I think Romo could be the top fantasy QB in the league this year, or certainly in the top 3.
4 – Beanie Wells – it may be my Buckeye fandom coming through, but this kid was a beat at OSU and I always thought would be a stud in the NFL if he can stay healthy. Has the great combination of strength and burst that RB’s need in the NFL and he really ran well at the end of the season last year. If he gets most of the carries then he’s going to put up big numbers. In any case, great value for the 4th round.
5 – Dwayne Bowe – I almost took Crabtree here but I got him in the LGT league and didn’t want to double up. I think he’s a great talent but I’m worried about the SF QB situtation, so I took Bowe who should be even better after his great year last season.
6 – Tony Gonzalez – the top TE’s were coming off the board so I grabbed the last really good one. But can he continue putting up big numbers at his age?
7 – Justin Forsett – really wanted Forte here but TDSH stole him two picks earlier. If he gets the bulk of the carries in Carroll’s offense then he should put up decent numbers, but a definite weak spot for a 3rd RB.
8 – Mike Sims-Walker – good pick for the 8th round, I think. The Jags offense may suck but they need to throw the ball to someone.
9 – Joe Flacco – could put up big numbers with the weapons around him in Baltimore. Good backup QB who could be trade bait down the road if I have other needs.
10 – Eagles D – I wanted to get a top defense and I think they’ll be really good. I guess we’ll see how that turns out because there were still some big-name defenses on the board (Steelers, Chargers).
11 – Darren McFadden – could be a steal but people have been waiting for him to break out since he was drafted and it hasn’t happened yet. If he can come close to filling his potential then my RB position will be much more solid.
12 – Nate Burleson – I think he could put up some numbers with Stafford at QB and playing opposite CJ.
13 – Devery Henderson – you never know which Saint WR is going to have a big game but he’s certainly capable of it any day.
14 – Dustin Keller – hopefully a good backup TE.
15 – David Buehler – the Cowboys should put up a lot of points so he’s a good kicker to have.
I really like my team at QB and WR but am worried about depth at RB. If McFadden can break out or I pick up a guy off the waiver wire who can help me then I might have one of the top teams in the league. But if Williams and Wells lose carries and TD’s to Stewart and Hightower then I may suck.
In any case, I voted for myself because I think my team has a great GM.
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I think hyou got a couple nice steals.
I thought flacco was a very good value for where you got him. I think Henderson could be a steal, as could Keller. I also picked buehler, mostly because of his name so I could go ’buehler…buehler…buehler…"
Forsett was a nice pickup and so was Romo. I dunno if romo will be a top 3 fantasy QB or even a top 5, but he is money to be a top 10 and since it sounds like Rivers was one of the most recent QBs off the board, it is a great pick (I would rank him right around rivers but he could be higher b/c of the WR situations).
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Chris, I know you are just trying to drag me in with your trash talking but I’ll just Belichick up and bulletin board this for when I am not in grad school and have more time for fun things like fantasy.
Oh yeah, I also don’t feel like I have much to prove fantasy-wise because I’ve already won this league once. Didn’t I beat you when it counted? I can never remember.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 1, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, you just called him Tampa Bay.
Ouch.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Earlier I thought of a funny comeback to this but I forgot what it was going to be.
Something about talking to Danny Ferry about that…I think I zinged lebron too…oh well.
Best of luck to everyone.
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by rufio on Sep 2, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this is the best trash talk ever.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
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