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Cleveland Browns vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Position Breakdown & Notes

Football is back, and the Browns couldn't have asked for an easier start to their season (I'm sure Buccaneers fans are thinking the same thing about the Browns). I have nothing against the Buccaneers, but I'm anticipating them to be the worst team in the league this season. Therefore, not only will the result of the game be an indicator as to whether or not the Browns have improved, how they play will be very important. If Tampa Bay is at the bottom of the barrel, then squeaking out a victory at the last second will look like nothing more than one bad team beating another.

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Here are some notes heading into the game, followed by my positional breakdown and prediction for the game:

  • The temperatures in training camp this year really didn't get very high compared to the past few years. I know there were some miserable days in Cleveland over the summer, but most of those were back in July. It'll be hot down in Tampa Bay, and I expect the Browns to be substituting players a lot. That's one of the reasons why we'll probably see all of the linebackers active, and maybe even James Davis getting more carries than he usually would.
  • Linebacker D'Qwell Jackson is out, and so is special teams ace/safety Nick Sorensen. Sorensen had a better chance of playing, but he's been ruled out (concussion). Thankfully, the Browns still have plenty of special teams assets, like LB Blake Costanzo and S Ray Ventrone. You won't see Joshua Cribbs as the gunner though, if what he said to the media remains true.
  • It is not looking very good for rookie right guard Shawn Lauvao. He missed practice Thursday and Friday and is now listed as "doubtful" and was wearing a walking boot. Last year's starter, Floyd Womack, has been filling in though and shouldn't be a huge detriment in the short run. Mangini hasn't named a starter at right tackle between Tony Pashos and John St. Clair. I anticipate it'll be Pashos, but you never know.
  • We have been teased to death about the Cyclone package. According to "hints" dropped by Eric Mangini, Joshua Cribbs, Seneca Wallace, Joe Thomas, and an array of other players, it seems like the formation will be unveiled this Sunday against the Buccaneers. I'm dying to see it in action and how effective it'll be. The biggest question mark about the formation I have is when do you decide to incorporate it? If Delhomme is rolling, can you justify removing him if something bad happens from the Cyclone?
  • I feel clueless in term of whether or not we'll be able to pressure the quarterback. We looked so bad in that regard during the preseason, but we did a fine job at the end of last season and Rob Ryan seems confident that his unit will be able to generate pressure.
  • Just like the first preseason game, the thing I'm most excited about on defense is how rookie T.J. Ward plays. Of course, the return of defensive lineman Shaun Rogers, and seeing where he lines up, is also something to look for.

Position-by-Position Breakdown

Pos Adv  Reason
QB - Josh Freeman showed some upside last season, but the second-year player still doesn't have very many proven weapons and fractured his thumb in the second preseason game. If Rob Ryan dials up some exotic looks at Freeman, I have a hard time believing that he'll be able to take advantage of our weaknesses like some of the better quarterbacks in the league can.
 
Meanwhile, Jake Delhomme had as an impressive of a preseason imaginable at his age and looked very comfortable with the offense. Having that chemistry gives the Browns the advantage here.
RB - How can I go against the Browns at running back when they have Jerome Harrison, Lawrence Vickers, and for all intents and purposes the same offensive line returning that won the final four games last season without any quarterback help? The Buccaneers feature Cadillac Williams, who will play the Browns for the first time in his career (the last time these two teams played a few years ago, he sat out).
WR - Many of the Buccaneers' receivers are untested or unknown. Their starting receivers are fourth-round pick Mike Williams and last year's seventh-round pick Sammie Stroughter. The Browns should have the upper edge at the receiver position considering the camps that Massaquoi, Robiskie, and Cribbs had, but the difference maker comes at the tight end position. Sure, Ben Watson is good, but Kellen Winslow elevates the Buccaneers' crop to the "even" level, just barely.
OL - The Buccaneers' offensive line didn't perform very well last season, and they've tried to improve it this year by adding former Panther Keydrick Vincent at the left guard position. Former Brown Jeff Faine will be at center for the Buccaneers. The right side of the offensive line might feature Floyd Womack and Tony Pashos, but the rest of the line -- Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack -- is plenty to give the Browns the positional advantage.
DL - If I saw with my own eyes that Shaun Rogers was ready to play, then I'd give the Browns the advantage here. I'm not completely sold on him being ready yet though, and the rest of the Browns' defensive line isn't far superior to Tampa Bay's. The player to watch on the Buccaneers will be defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, who was taken third overall this year. Neither team was able to generate a significant pass rush in the preseason.
LB - It's probably not fair to directly compare teams that run different defenses (4-3 vs. 3-4). I gave the Buccaneers the advantage here because I've always liked the way middle linebacker Barrett Rudd plays.
 
Technically the Browns have also added a "leader" in captain Scott Fujita, but he'll probably be playing outside linebacker and it was difficult to evaluate him in the preseason. Until the Browns find a pass rush at linebacker or someone who can cover the tight ends, I'm going to find it tough to rank our unit above those on other teams.
DB - The Buccaneers will be without starting cornerback Aqib Talib, who will be serving a suspension. Ronde Barber can still play well at his age and is good in run support, but starting opposite him is last year's seventh-round pick E.J. Biggers. He has yet to play an NFL game, and I expect Delhomme to try to take advantage of him.
 
Former Brown Sean Jones is starting at one of the safety positions. The Browns have the depth that Tampa Bay is lacking right now, with Mike Adams able to back up both safety positions and first-round pick Joe Haden being the third cornerback.
ST - At the punter position, the Buccaneers signed Australian Chris Bryan after he spent camp with the Packers. It'll be interesting to see how he does in his first NFL game. The Browns have the advantage at kicker, returning kicks, and defending returns, so this is an easy advantage to Cleveland.


I take credit for being pretty good and unbiased when predicting the results of Cleveland Browns games. Last year, I was 13-3 in terms of predicting Browns games, and was 181-75 overall on the season (70.7% accuracy) when picking straight up. Hopefully I can maintain that type of percentage this year. With that said, here is my official prediction for the Browns/Buccaneers game:

I expect the Browns to come out aggressive with the passing game to begin the game, much like they did in the preseason. Once they build a lead, I think Jerome Harrison and Peyton Hillis will be utilized to the same level that the Browns ran the ball last season. Defensively, I'm expecting Kellen Winslow to have a pretty big game in terms of yardage, but I think we'll be able to minimize Tampa Bay's drives to field goals once we key in on Winslow down there. I think Freeman's time off is going to hurt him too -- he threw 18 interceptions last year, so our secondary should be ready. This game will be blacked out in Tampa, and I think it'll be to the benefit of their fans.

FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 34, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16.
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 1-0

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Browns 27 Bucs 9

Only because I don’t think Freeman will be ready. If we stop the run, we should win easily.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 11, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Only if Cadillac is running like he has an LS6 under the hood.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 11, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like the guy, but he’s not a huge threat.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 11, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll probably grind it out for 80 or more yards. He had 1,000 yards last year behind a horrid offensive line.

I’m more worried about Huggins. He’s going to get some touches and he’s got the speed to burn our linebackers.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats what cadillac does. he is a solid starting RB that will get you yards and if healthy a full season, 900-1000 yards (I am guessing you meant 1,000 yards from scrimmage last year b/c he only had 823 yards rushing). He usually won’t beat you, but he gets his yardage. he just doesn’t seem to have that explosiveness anymore.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 12, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

My dad said our direct tv thing was set up so I could watch Sunday Ticket to go. I just tried to sign in… it didn’t work. This better be fixed by game time.

Prediction:

Browns: 27
Bucs: 10

by emily522 on Sep 11, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

If you have access to the internet there should be plenty of streams available.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we’re also playing for the To Go part of Sunday Ticket.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

You’re been scammed.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn. You’ve.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got it to work.

It’s only $50. I don’t like using streams on the internet. One time I used one on p2p and I got a nasty virus.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The scam is direct tv. But the “to go” package is only $50. Add that to $350 and your family is being scammed.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

True. But my dad watches the games at home.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, it’s okay. I just like stabbing at that price tag when I can.

At least you get to watch the game!

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the price is a lot but it’s worth it.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t actually looked at the price tag lately, since they auto renew until you tell them to stop, but a few years ago it was only $250 for Sunday Ticket. Is the $350 for the Super Fan package?

by JustBob on Sep 12, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Sunday!!! Gameday is here!!!

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Sep 12, 2010 12:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Only 12 hours and 53 minutes to go!

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Sep 12, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

7 hours 49 minutes, and if I don’t fall asleep soon I’m going to be tired as hell watching.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Sep 12, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aqib Talib seems like a good young kid.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 12, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I cannot WAIT to start this season! I’m in lowly Indiana so I don’t get to watch the game on TV or listen on the radio… Hopefully I can find something that works online. If anyone finds an online feed that works lemme know :)

GO BROWNS!

by shep615 on Sep 12, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

This place usually works for a lot of us here. I’ve got a ton more too, but generally the all link the same streams.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Sep 12, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I try going to it my browser says the website isn’t available :(

by shep615 on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here are some more

ATDHE.NET LINK for today’s game

atdhe.net homepage

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 12, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will you marry me?

Bottom line: Stuckey gets 30 catches, or he gets less.

by BrownDawg1409 on Sep 12, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe WMMS broadcasts the radio play all of the games online. Try wmms.com if you can’t get a video feed.

by Monsters of the Midway on Sep 12, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Negative, at least in years previous. If you try to get the live-stream of WMMS during the game, you get some message about the NFL prohibits blah blah blah. Although, you could also turn on the stream previous to the game starting and it will sometimes simply stay on.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 12, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, the NFL has their product on lock down. Thanks for the correction.

by Monsters of the Midway on Sep 12, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. They killed the WMMS on-line stream in 2005 (I think it was) late in the 2nd Qtr of a game. It did NOT encourage me to pay for the NFL Filed Pass.

by JustBob on Sep 12, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait until the Bowns lose

lol at their fans actually thinking they aren’t the worst team this season.

also lol at being optimistic for jake delhomme.

by The Juicer on Sep 12, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope its a good start, I only get to watch an hour on tv before I have to sneak peeks at my phone and at work of all places…..

by year of the elf on Sep 12, 2010 1:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Our linebackers are huge and our cornerbacks are tiny. If they take the game outside the offensive tackles we´re doomed. Nuff said.

by mooncamping on Sep 12, 2010 7:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Haden and Brown can tackle though. I like our chances outside.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 12, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also don’t think the Bucs have many options to go outside. I also like our chances there.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 12, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I told my roommate the Browns were on at one. She said she’d go to the library to study haha.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

YES!

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m also rocking my Browns shirt :)

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m up in sunny Toronto at the moment, so hoping to get all my family chores done and find the game live somewhere/ somehow. Whatever happens I think we have ESPN in the hotel so I’ll be watching one NFL game.

Welcome Joe!
Go Seneca!

by LondonBrown on Sep 12, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I think I’m going to start Ronnie Brown over Spiller or Wells.

Good idea?

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn. That’s tough.

I’d say Spiller.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say brown. I just personally am not high on spiller…plus, brown is playing buffalo.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 12, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s also playing with Williams.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

CJ is also a rookie…going against a competent run D. and there is no guarantee he gets that many more carries than Brown and there is still a good chance Jackson gets 10 touches.

Plus, you have to consider that Buffalo may have to abandon their run game early because I think they will be down quickly and Miami will run more b/c they run a lot and they will likely be on top for a lot of the game.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 12, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, you have to consider that Buffalo may have to abandon their run game early because I think they will be down quickly and Miami will run more b/c they run a lot and they will likely be on top for a lot of the game.

This is false and completely backward. The running game will be important because they know what they have with Edwards. Nothing.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope. Just because a team is not good at passing doesn’t mean they will not pass late in the game. even a bad passing team will rely more on the pass when they are behind.

And it showed to be true b/c buffalo only ran it 17 times to 34 passes.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 12, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going with Brown. I’ll probably be starting CJ regularly by mid-season, though.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad choice to listen to Bross…

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of starting Brown before he gave his opinion haha.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

in hindsight, bad choice to listen to you saying to play spiller. Brown worked out well and is one of the reasons I am destroying my opponent right now.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 12, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Robo has a nice showing today. I’d love to be able to use him as a bye week filler throughout the season or better.

by emily522 on Sep 12, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Robobiskit!

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 12, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Delhomme WAS a MISTAKE

A complete idiot. HE and that reject from Denver LOST THIS GAME. Delhomme is going to be worse than Anderson. I said it and I heard so much crap, who likes that inept idiot now?

by champion64 on Sep 12, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I do. I’m going to stick by my guns and say that Delhomme is still going to be a quality starter, even after this surprising lost.

Hillis was a beast and I’m not so sure that the fumbles are a result of his ability to hold onto the football so much as it is that Tamba Bay has some guys who really know how to force them.

Bottom line: Stuckey gets 30 catches, or he gets less.

by BrownDawg1409 on Sep 12, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delhomme can’t make that damn mistake at the end of the half! He should know that. IT COST THEM THE GAME, Delhomme was a mistake from minute one. 2 interceptions against to lose a game they should have won easily. Delhomme cant get the ball to the receivers. If you saw the game HE WAS NOT SACKED. Quarterback rating 59.2 HE BLOWS

by champion64 on Sep 12, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calm down. It’s one game.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.™

by golanbatrac on Sep 12, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calm down. Drink up. It’s one game.

Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 12, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you even watch the game or just look at the box score or something.

Delhomme had a bad game, played injured and was STILL better than anderson was when playing.

and Hillis? he was 2nd on the team in yards from scrimmage after Evan Moore. He ran it well. yes, he fumbled, but how did he lose us the game? after the fumble, the browns forced a 3 and out…wow, that 3 and out lost us the game, right? Even if you consider that the browns had good field position, there was no guarantee for a TD. so maybe, without hillis, we get a FG there, but we also may not get one of the other TDs that we did get.

Delhomme was the victim of an injury and an inept coaching staff calling the plays. Why, when you are running so well, do you pass 37 times, especially when you have the lead for most of the game? why do you increase the volume of throws for a QB AFTER he gets injured and flustered? these are just bonehead decisions.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 12, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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