Getting to Know the Enemy: Arrowhead Pride Talks About Eric Berry, and the Chiefs' Offense
I was pleased to be joined by Joel Thorman from Arrowhead Pride, our Kansas City Chiefs affiliate, to preview Sunday's game. Joel talks about how fans are responding to QB Matt Cassel, if running back Jamaal Charles should receive more carries, how safety Eric Berry has been doing, and more.

Chris: "Since coming to the Chiefs, quarterback Matt Cassel hasn't come anywhere close to producing like he did with the New England Patriots. Do fans still have faith in Cassel, or have they accepted the fact that he's not going to turn into an elite quarterback?"
Joel: "I think the fans that still do have faith in Cassel want to see some production this year. Last year, there were many reasons for him not to play well including coming into a new system, new coordinators, new city, new teammates...everything was new. Though we may not all agree with it, there were reasons why he had an average to below average season.
Now? All the moves made offensively this offseason were done with Matt Cassel in mind. The coordinator (Charlie Weis), the receivers (Chris Chambers, Dexter McCluster), offensive line (Casey Wiegmann, Ryan Lilja), running game (Thomas Jones) ... All those moves were made to help the quarterback. This year there are no more excuses. There has to be legitimate progress from Cassel or there will be more than a few fans who will ask him (politely) to leave town."
Chris: "With how Jamaal Charles played at the end of last season, I was a bit surprised that the Chiefs went out and signed veteran Thomas Jones. Do you wish Charles would receive the bulk of the carries, or is a two-back system fine for the Chiefs?"
Joel: "Yeah I think most of us wish Charles received the ball more often. For example: Last week both players had 11 carries. Charles had 92 yards while Jones had 39 yards. See the difference? Dating back to week 9 of last year Charles has done nothing but show Todd Haley, the Chiefs organization and the fans that he is the best option. He consistently gets more yards per carry than others so why wouldn't you put that guy on the field more often?
I guess one of the things that bothered me last week was that at halftime the fullback had three touches while Charles had five, one of which went 56 yards to the house. That said, I understand somewhat why Todd Haley is doing this. He needs a guy like Jones in the huddle and on the offense. I'm not sure if the quarterback is leading that huddle or if you need a guy like Jones in there."
Chris: "Eric Berry. Eric Berry. Eric Berry. Many Browns fans were obsessed with the thought of drafting Berry before the Chiefs took him. We ended up drafting safety T.J. Ward in the second round (a player who fans have already fallen in love with), but we never heard anything about Berry after our pre-draft buzz. Can you give us a little primer on how he looked in camp, the preseason, and/or last week against the Chargers?"
Joel: "He's been the starter since day one. There was never really any question about it. Off the field, he's a cool dude and all the fans seem to recognize that. On the field, he's had a good start to his NFL career. I can't give you a detailed breakdown of his individual play without studying it a little more but I can say that he seems to consistently be around the ball, which is a good thing. He's not a liability back there like the Chiefs last player in his position was. He's had a good start and all the hype is legit to this point."
Chris: "The Chiefs got off to a great start last week against the Chargers, but their offense didn't score any points in the second half. What was the reason for the lack of points in the second half?"
Joel: "A big part of it was the rain. It was raining cats and dogs, raining sideways (like they described in Forrest Gump) and even lightning at times. Bottomline, they weren't the best conditions. The Chiefs got a 21-7 lead and I think kinda shut down offensively. They haven't had a lead very often and I think they were doing whatever they could to keep it. They have Charles and brought in Jones for reasons like this -- getting a lead and holding onto it in the second half. The Chiefs coach said more than a few times that the weather was the biggest reason for their conservative approach to the game."
Chris: "This Sunday, who are you more afraid of, given their efforts against the Chiefs last year: Jerome Harrison or Joshua Cribbs?"
Joel: "Joshua Cribbs. With the arrival of Romeo Crennel, I don't think you're going to see an undisciplined defense that gives up a ton of rushing yards. Plus, it's early in the year and these guys are motivated. Last year, the Chiefs weren't playing for anything. The season was over. This year there's a lot more hope. As to why Cribbs is dangerous...well, he may be the best special teamer in the game. He's going to have to have a big game so Dexter McCluster or Javier Arenas don't take away the title of best return man in the game from him. "
Once again, I'd like to thank Joel for taking the time to answer this questions.
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These posts are awesome, getting a fan’s perspective on the opposition is always a great help to understand the entire league. Given what he’s shown so far, T. Ward has already made me forget about Berry. The kid already has a presence on the field.
Being a Browns fan isn't always fun but somebody's gotta do it
Hey Chris, do other sites do this "know your enemy" thing when we play them too? I look sometimes, but never see them. It would be nice to see their questions and your responses.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
I know they used to be popular to do, but seem to have faded a bit. I still like doing them; I think the Bears site does them too. Arrowhead Pride should have my Q&A up soon.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sweet! thx
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 18, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Who’s Eric Berry?
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
He sees what you did there :)

He looked good in Orange didn’t he?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 18, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta give credit to the Arrowhead guys. They’ve been here all week and haven’t been Trolling Asses. I’m starting to like them. Good job guys.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 18, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
They’re like a poor man’s DBN.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
That really does mean a lot.
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by Chris Thorman on Sep 19, 2010 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd just like to add on
Charles YPC would probably drop if he got the more traditional touches that Jones is getting right now (although history certainly hasn’t proven that to this point). Although I think Charles would get a higher average than Jones on his normal carries, Charles is really dangerous when he gets the ball on draws and screens which is how the Chiefs have been using him as a 3rd down back. Why not have him fresh in those situations?
I would like to see more touches for Charles but not necessarily in the traditional way Jones carries the ball. I really think Jones does set up some longer runs by Charles with his 3 yard gains up the middle.
To sum it all up – Charles needs more carries, but don’t look for him running it up the middle on first down. That is not where he is most effective.
Agreed. Charles needs more touches, but he certainly isn’t an every down back. He would be far less effective if also asked to run quite a bit inside.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
Can’t say that until they give him the chance.
From what I have seen, Jamaal Charles would play every down on my football team.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 19, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
from the info I was able to piece together (from football outsiders and nfl.com) they were significantly less effective running up the middle and were maybe below average. granted, I was not able to just Isolate Charles, but it seems like he did have less effectiveness when running up the middle. According to Football outsiders, KC was most effective running the ball in the open field and outside the tackles.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
With the arrival of Romeo Crennel, I don’t think you’re going to see an undisciplined defense that gives up a ton of rushing yards.
HA!
In all seriousness, Romeo is a much better coordinator than HC.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
so… why did you quote the statement and laugh?
don’t get it.
by discoinferno083 on Sep 18, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe he laughed because when Crennel was with the Browns, his “arrival” had no effect on our horrid run defense. (But then, notthatnoise clarifies that Crennel is a better coordinator when he focuses on that).
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 18, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Q: How do you stop a guy like RB Jerome Harrison?
CRENNEL: "It involves everyone on the defense doing their job first and then helping out. If you fit properly and be sure tacklers, maybe we can hold him down."
Q: He only had nine carries last week. Are you expecting more than that from Harrison?
CRENNEL: "Well, Eric game plans and whatever game plan he puts together, I think that is what he is going to do. The number of carries that Harrison has, it doesn’t matter to Eric. If his game plan is to throw the ball, he will throw the ball. If his game plan is to give Harrison the ball, he is going to give Harrison the ball. Whatever game plan he has for us, we will find out on Sunday and hopefully it does not work."
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Good ol’ Crennel and his completely generic answers.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 18, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if Arby’s is still his gameplan
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions

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