Kansas City Chiefs vs. Cleveland Browns: Official Game Thread (Part II)
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 19, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
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Game: Kansas City Chiefs vs. Cleveland Browns
Date/Time: Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WOIO, Channel 19 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Don Criqui & Steve Beuerlein
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Shut ’em down, men.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
All right, big third-down stop by the Browns’ defense!
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Excellent one D!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
long drive by KC, over 6 minutes.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
One point game.
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Sep 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
This feed is working, so far (courtesy of the Arrowhead Pride people):
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Thanks kwoog. Not much lag, though it just hung on me…
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, I don’t like it when Wallace takes so many steps back
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Guys, it could be worse. We could have Trent Edwards with 11 passing yards.
by emily522 on Sep 19, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That’s impressive.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think one is passing yards and the other is net passing yards. Green Bay has 3 sacks so now the passing yards on espn where they have team stats is 26 (it went up) but he passed for 58 yards. So i guess they lost 32 yards on those 3 sacks.
The Line for GB looks pretty good (on a different subject)
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Where is Vickers on these running plays?
by HenryDawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
it’s the right call. the defensive player had already gone into the end zone, so even though he was outside it when he downed the ball, it’s a touchback.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it was Haden. He’ll learn.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
These two teams make the same mistakes
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Haden’s play was somewhat excusable, but that was kind of silly by the KC player to slide toward the end zone.
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I’m ready for some Vickers. Have to run with Harrison+Vickers, not just Harrison.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
the under-utilization of vickers has been very puzzling.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hillis, what a beast. Turned a one-yard gain into a 7-yard gain and a first down.
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Hillis is over 4 per carry.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
please don’t say things like that.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Buerlien is right – what’s up with these lame streaks down the sidelines, our recs can’t get open there and wallace can’t make those throws
by HenryDawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Heh.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAH!
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I’m actually surprised I’m not a Bills fan. My grandma is one, and she still lives in NY. But my mom doesn’t care about football that much. My dad rooted for the Raiders even though he’s from NY too. Guess the fact I was born in Cleveland made me a Browns fan.
Cmon Brownies, let’s finish this one!
by HenryDawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hodges has had a very good day punting the football; great coverage too.
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This team runs out of gas in the second half. D is keeping us in the game but they’re going to get tired if we don’t have the ball a little.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
Best scenario – the Browns in attendance for the Ring of Honor ceremony get suited up, and come out for the 4th quarter.
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by portland, oregon on Sep 19, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
Then Jim Brown unexpectedly shows up for the two minute drill.
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by portland, oregon on Sep 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
Can’t we win without him?
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd-and-6, come on defense, let’s get another stop!
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yes.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed he did!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
On a tipped pass near the end of the first half, yes.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Argh. The flow of this game is not putting me in my happy place.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
Where has Buckeye Brad and BK19 been during the game threads? Their input is always appreciated.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Bars
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
They should show more dedication. Jokes, guys, jokes.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love an interception right about now.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
BuckeyeBradDoesBlow?
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 19, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kept ‘em out! D won’t quit, but we need points.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
3 points from the ref + FG missed by Phil = Chiefs lead
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh, Chiefs up again. For all intents and purposes, we need to score on this next drive.
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Now they finally call holding? They’ve been holding like a drug dealer. Come on Browns let’s finish this!!
by HenryDawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Seneca needs to step up into the pocket rather than rolling out.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
exactly. He did have some heat, but that hold was a direct result of him scrambling out of the pocket. JT has Hali contained on that play, but seneca rolls out to the point where Hali is between JT and Seneca…what can he do?
In that situation, Seneca needs to either stay in the pocket, or scramble to the right, where there didn’t seem to be as much of a pass rush from.
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What’s with those fucking long balls down the sideline?
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Hell. Needed that first.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Hodges picked the wrong time to come up with a duck.
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Refs= Really, extremely f-ing suck.
I mean it’s terrible.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
We’re losing this game. The refs didn’t cause us to have zero offense in the second half.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
wow…thats what you got from this? He didn’t say anything about the play in the 2nd half. He just said the refs have sucked, which is his opinion and I agree with. he didn’t say we would have a much better offense if they were better.
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It’s just a disease to pretty much ALWAYS blame the refs in game like this, typically because we are losing “because of the calls” or because of the refs or something. I was combatting that view-point. Did he articulate that view? Perhaps not, but I thought that’s what he was getting at.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
but he DIDN’T say that. He just said the refereeing is bad. this is a package deal fallacy.
Did he articulate that view? Perhaps not, but I thought that’s what he was getting at.
He did not articulate this view AT ALL. if you take the statement at face value, without adding any of your opinions in, he does not articulate this view. You thought this was what he was getting at but that is you making an assumption based on things that are supposed to go together and interpreting what he says and then criticizing based on your personal interpretation.
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It’s inherently stupid to get involved in a flame war, particularly because it’s probably entirely about our emotions after getting beat again by a team we should have beaten. But, I was saying that particular comment to that particular user based on what I observed last week. If it’s anyone but him, or if I’m not pissed off at the poor play, I probably don’t make it.
I think my point is valid, not like it matters.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s inherently stupid to get involved in a flame war, particularly because it’s probably entirely about our emotions after getting beat again
Flame wars are fun, what are you talking about?
Actually, I am very in control of my emotions and am surprisingly calm after the loss. Also, I rarely (if ever) argue based on emotions but on logic…which is why I logical fallacied your ass…
If it’s anyone but him
so you admit then to irrationally targeting SB? He is the only person you would criticize for this. While I have seen him complain about the refs, I don’t remember him blaming a loss on them, so you really have no basis at all for your irrationality.
I also think its funny that you start your comment by saying that its stupid to argue like this, but then continue the argument.
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you just don’t realize what you got yourself into…you had to make me bring out my fallacy guns.
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Right. You’re right, your fallacy guns were way too much for my second half typing defenses. I wave the white flag.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
still only 23 total running carries from our main backs. Worst playcalling, ever. It’s like a complete repeat of last weak.
Not at all. it is MUCH more balanced, especially considering this is a close game.
Last week, we were up the whole game but passed it 37 times compared to 18 rushes by our RBs and 23 total rushes. So we passed it 62% of the time. We also called a pass 63.33% of the time (one rush by Jake when it was a pass play).
This game was a close game all the way through with a lot of lead changes. we have 24 rushes by our RBs and 26 total. we passed it 54.7% of the time so far today and called a pass play 56% of the time. the average NFL team passed 54.7% of the time last year…whats the problem??
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the problem is we should run more than the average NFL team.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Or at least try that until it proves futile.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. However, to throw up your hands and say ‘oh, this is as bad as last week, we are not running it at all and the coaches should be fired’ is an extreme overreaction.
I agree we should run it more, but the team did show more committment to the run. I think, if harrison was more effective, we may have run it 3-4 more times. I forgot to say that may have affected how much we ran it. I think its 50/50 if he has 3.5 ypc or more.
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Bross my friend, your (overly?) analytical take seems odd here in the heat of a game thread. Lots of venting going on here, you know?
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
we should run it more,
We should run run RUN. We should make them prove to the world that they can stop the run and until they do that we should continue stuffing down their throats.
My view is : running = points
Clearly the Browns disagree.
We should run run RUN
even if we have success through the air like we did in the first half?
We should make them prove to the world that they can stop the run
actually, they were stuffing us. Hillis was the only guy who had significant effectiveness. our running game averaged 2.8 yards per carry if I remember correctly. I would say they stuffed us and we were still running it down their throats to set up the pass.
My view is : running = points
you know, the NFL allows teams to score passing TDs too. Passing=Points too and we were able to score points passing the ball.
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We still have some time to mix in the running game here. Don’t have to watch Wallace drop back for long passes.
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Where’s Ratliff?
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Vaya con dios. I’m sure school will be more fun than the end of this one. Me, I’m going to go slam my head in a door until the memory fades.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder if Mangini keeps Daboll much longer.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope not much longer…or get someone else to call the plays
by Internalfire48 on Sep 19, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
(Buries head) Ugh, hate having to know the Chiefs only need a first down to win…
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I doubt Cowher would take the job on a division opponent of the Steelers. Much more likely to go to somewhere like Carolina.
by gentryholdem on Sep 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
How many timeouts do we have?
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
F—k. Figures.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
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I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 19, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what it looked like to me.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
not going to be reversed, that ball breaks the plane.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well, time to go get drunk.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wait! its under review, my liver can still be saved!
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on, Charles didn’t even get close to that white line! I hope they respot this and re-measure.
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don’t think so Chris, but I hope. Refs owe us big time today.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, maybe he did, but I wish he didn’t.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The playcalling and game plans has shown insufficient growth from last year. If Daboll is still rightfully to blame for that, well….
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets not fire anyone this early into the season…
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…but near the end of the season it showed some major improvements. If we go 0-7 or 0-8 (maybe even 0-6) and the offense is still this bad, I would definitely be in favor of a firing of daboll. However, 2 games is nowhere near an adequate time to give an accurate evaluation.
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Doesn’t this make the lack of offense at the start of this season even more perplexing?
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 19, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
apply the anesthesia. too bad.
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by portland, oregon on Sep 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
F—k.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Complete inability to score points in the second half. Just silly.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Did many people get injured?
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Best outcome I could hope for with that one….
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We started 1-11, not 0-11. Won against the Bills in that 6-3 thriller in the snow in Week 5.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
two reviews that the announcers thought would be easily overturned were held up.
The non-reversal of the harrison fumble is in my opinion the worst call by an official since 2002.
none of this excuses an inept offense.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
yea, I’m not a ref, but I definitely felt we got no love from the officials on that call, as well as the run by Jones at the end….maybe we just didn’t pay the refs enough this week. Although we need some offense in the 2nd half if we wanna win games.
Tough loss today.
by da36chamberz on Sep 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmgren needs to do some ass kicking, right now.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I’d prefer Holmgren doing some ass moving instead…i.e. from the loge to the sideline at this point.
by johnnyphoenix on Sep 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea another moral victory for the Browns. Let’s keep losing by 2 or 3 all year long. So tired of the shots of Mangini sulking like the bitch he is
by HenryDawg on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i think you need to look up “sulking” in a dictionary and rethink your wording.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Outcoached once again.
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by kwoog on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Browns lose again 0-3
Time to fire the maggot Mangini and the idiot Daboll
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by bross09 on Sep 19, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
remember how Holmgren was iffy on Mangini when he joined the organization? I was too at that time. Now I’m done, maybe Holmgen is too?
/makes official switch to get-rid-of-Mangini party
Can’t we fire Daboll first?
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Daboll needs to be gone before Mangini…since Daboll calls the plays
by Internalfire48 on Sep 19, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, because switching coaches every few years has worked so well for us in the past.
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Right becuase we should keep the POS soccer boy hired. Same POS nobody else wanted, same POS who ratted out his mentor, same POS who does nothing during a game besides standing around looking pissed off.
by HenryDawg on Sep 19, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
when did lerner become ‘soccer boy’? are NFL owners not allowed to own soccer teams?
Is Stan Kroenke ‘soccer boy’ because he is the largest shareholder in FC Arsenal and he owns the rams?
Is Malcolm Glazer ‘soccer boy’ for owning Man U and the Bucs?
No. Owning a soccer team does not make you soccer boy. In fact, if anyone is ‘soccer boy’ it is Kroenke because he bought FC arsenal before he bought the rams.
Same POS nobody else wanted, same POS who ratted out his mentor
So Mangini was a reject who sucked wherever he went? There is no way anyone had interest in him? wrong. There was some interest, but we jumped early before anyone else made him a good offer. Was there no interest for Haynesworth or Julius peppers in free agency? When free agency started, these guys were immediately signed to lucrative deals. Mangini was considered one of the best avaliable coaches.
oh…so he is a bad guy for ratting out Belichick for spygate? so we should kill all the snitches instead of the people doing something wrong? Though Belichick is a great coach, he is a D-Bag who was caught cheating and I fault mangini none for that.
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Don’t blame Mangini, he didn’t force Bill to cheat.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Refs and Dawson make the difference in the scoreboard but nothing excuses that second half of offense.
What’s crucial is that this team is not getting better. The D was good but then KC is not a great team. Shit I’m frustrated. Part of being a Browns fan I guess.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
the team is loads better. The defense played great. The offense did not, but I find it hard to place all the blame for that on mangini. Daboll hasn’t been good and it was a career backup under center.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Daboll has time and again proven he isn’t worthy of calling plays at the high school level, let alone for the browns
I think this is just an irrational, emotional reaction.
Daboll hasn’t shown in these 2 games good playcalling. However, he showed some promise near the end of last year. lets not all jump off the deep end because of two games.
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He has, but only in the first half. He has no idea what to do with a lead. It’s so frustrating to watch this sequence every posession: run, run, pass, punt. Every damn possession.
I agree he doesn’t seem to know what to do with a lead. I am definitely in favor of action if this continues and am frustrated, but this is WAY too early to do anything drastic like this.
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I agree. The defense showed some good stuff last year..and now they have much more secondary help. Its just excruciating watching the offense.
by johnnyphoenix on Sep 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Cleveland agony continues . . . and the torture never stops
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by portland, oregon on Sep 19, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll come back tomorrow when people are feeling less pissed off.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
Does anyone think Daboll realistically gets fired in-season? Maybe if (who we kidding) when we go 0-5 0-6/
We should be 2-0. We gave away these games.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No, we should be 0-2. We don’t play like a team that is there to win. We go in hard, and then play to avoid losing after 2 quarters. No one wins like that.
We go in hard, and then play to avoid losing after 2 quarters. No one wins like that.
Jesus, think about it…we’ve been doing that for about 25 years now…ever since schottenheimer up until now.
by johnnyphoenix on Sep 19, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no we’re completely deserving of 0-2, and we gave away nothing.
by johnnyphoenix on Sep 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we need to begin considering the possibility that with Zastudil gone and Cribbs busy trying to earn that ridiculous contract he got, we no longer have a game changing special teams unit. We’ll be playing deep on our own side of the field for most of every game.
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My dad was worried Cribs would lose his fire once he got what he was playing for in the first place.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Punt coverage still seemed good, but I wonder if you’re right. I knew we’d miss Zastudil but didn’t expect the rest.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 19, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hodges has been pretty good, I’m way more worried about Cribbs lack of explosive special teams plays.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Sep 19, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know. It’s like going to the dentist every sunday.
ALL in all a nice combination of boredom, frustration, and pain. And expensive.
by johnnyphoenix on Sep 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the bright side: Rob Ryan’s defense didn’t allow a touchdown today, and forced two turnovers.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Sep 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions
Honestly, why not fire Mangini and Daboll and install Ryan as HC? Then Mangini brings in his own offensive guys.
by gentryholdem on Sep 19, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Instant Recap thread up here; try to move post-game discussion there.
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