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EAST RUTHERFORD NJ - SEPTEMBER 13:  Ray Lewis #52 of the Baltimore Ravens reacts after defeating the New York Jets during their home opener at the New Meadowlands Stadium on September 13 2010 in East Rutherford New Jersey.  (Photo by Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)

I was pleased to be joined by Bruce Raffel from Baltimore Beatdown, our Baltimore Ravens affiliate, to preview Sunday's game. Bruce talks about the lack of production from T.J. Houshmandzadeh, if the team is utilizing Ray Rice enough, the Ravens' secondary, and more.

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Chris: "I thought it was a great move for the Ravens to sign T.J. Houshmandzadeh, but it's a bit surprising to see that he only has one catch through two games. What has been the reason for his lack of productivity up to this point?"

Bruce: "There is no excuse for his lack of production, as he was supposed to be more of a third down target. Hopefully this will change Sunday and beyond as he gets more comfortable with the offense and vice versa."

Chris: "Based on what you've seen over the first two weeks, should Ray Rice be receiving more touches?"

Bruce: "This was a big discussion point from last week, as Rice was doing well and inexplicably, the coaches seemed to abandon the run game and he rarely touched the ball towards the end of the game. We are still a run-first team, but for whatever reason, OC Cam Cameron wants to change that and his stubbornness has hurt the team's chances."

Chris: "Browns fans will be thrilled that Ed Reed won't be in the secondary to pick off a pass from Jake Delhomme or Seneca Wallace, but the Jets and the Bengals didn't seem to exactly pick apart the Ravens' supposed "soft spot" (the secondary). Wallace tried to throw the deep ball way too many times last week, and while he usually overthrew our receivers, they were surprisingly open most of the time. I know Mark Sanchez didn't test the Ravens' defense, but did Carson Palmer try to go deep? If so, how well did the Ravens defend on those plays?"

Bruce: "The Ravens secondary was thought to be a weak link but has played surprisingly well thru two games and there is no reason to expect that won't continue. The biggest difference to me is pressure on the QB. While our sack total is low, we still have hurried the passer well enough not to give him time to find the open guy and our deep coverage has been stellar. If/when Reed returns, the turnovers should increase, as we've dropped a few easy picks that could have changed the game last week."

Chris: "Baltimore has been known for having some pretty good drafts. Which player in this year's draft class, if any, has made an impact over the first two weeks?"

Bruce: "The Ravens first pick in the second round, Sergio Kindle, just signed a base rate contract and will not play in 2010. The other second round pick, Terrence "Mount" Cody, has played only sparingly if at all but should begin making an impact shortly. The biggest draft pick contributors have been our tight ends, Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta, who block, catch and play special teams, along with WR David Reed, who also is a good special teams player. However, our biggest difference is, of course, the free agent signings, leading with WR Anquan Boldin, who the Browns will get a big dose of Sunday."

Chris: "I'm not sure if you saw any of the Chiefs vs. Browns game last week, but on every kickoff, the Chiefs kicked the ball high and short to the upback instead of Joshua Cribbs. Reports have surfaced that the Baltimore Ravens plan on kicking to Cribbs and trusting their coverage units. If you were the special teams coordinator, what would you do?"

Bruce: "Gosh, I certainly hope they don't stubbornly kick to Cribbs, as the Bengals got a great return on us to kick the lead-taking field goal. Besides, why kick to the best returner in the game? It seems like an obvious decision. By the way, Ravens 24-6."

Once again, I'd like to thank Bruce for taking the time to answer this questions.

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Nice prediction. It’d be fun to see the Ravens surpass 10 pts this week.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Right? I think there offense is struggling more then their supposed weak secondary… If we could actually get some pressure on Flacco, we might be able to get a defensive score…I know wishful thinking..lol

by cboldt12 on Sep 24, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our offense has been struggling, but a lot of us feel like we just need to develop a chemistry with all our new offensive weapons. However, keep in mind that we did face two of the NFL’s best secondaries so far.

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Sep 25, 2010 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was pleased to be joined by Bruce Raffel

Uh huh…

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 24, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Sergio Kindle will be lucky if he ever gets to play a down.

by StuckInPa on Sep 24, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody should count themselves lucky enough to play in the NFL. But, Sergio Kindle’s recovery has to seem likely at this point. Beyond Mike Florio, few people have been talking about Sergio never playing again, and signing him seems to imply that the Ravens expect him to play again. I’m not saying it’s guaranteed, but I’d certainly lay my money on him playing again, most likely next year.

by math_geek on Sep 24, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’ll probably play again (I mean, even LeCharles Bently played again) but I don’t think he’ll ever be worth that second round pick.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 25, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe so. Only time will tell. However, the floor is littered with people who weren’t worth their second round picks. And a lot of it’s on Sergio. If he makes a full mental recovery (as I think he would have to) then only his work ethic can get in the way of his success. It’s not like a knee injury where he may never be able to cut or whatever. I just hope he doesn’t get a concussion when he plays.

by math_geek on Sep 25, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can pretty much agree with this. As a Browns fan, I’m well acquainted with second rounders who never reach their potential. My only point of disagreement would be that he has had at least one leg injury, correct? one that required micro-fracture surgery? The fractured skull isn’t the only injury he’s dealing with.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 25, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised this thread hasn’t already been flooded by trolls such as Malor and Co.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 24, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you do these interviews over the phone? Because I can’t imagine Ravens’ fans being able to type with their ape-like fingers.

Now, before any of those guys come over here to trashtalk, I have no expectation of the Browns winning this game. We have less chance of winning than does a 20-year old woman have of not being groped by Ben Roethlisberger in a bar – and that we all can agree on.

Nice write-up BTW

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Sep 24, 2010 4:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I would disagree normally since I don’t think the Ravens are quite as good as everyone thinks, but I don’t see our offense doing much of anything this weekend.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 24, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think maybe we could do something on offense… Remember last year when we just stuck Cribbs in the Wildcat against the Steelers and we basically ran Cribbs and Harrison all day? Maybe we can do that again and it can work?

by shep615 on Sep 24, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the element of surprise is gone.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Sep 24, 2010 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would be happy if we can just score once in the second half.

by da36chamberz on Sep 24, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. our D might be able to keep us in the game, but I don’t like our Offense’s chances against their D, especially how good the D is playing.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine Ravens’ fans being able to type with their ape-like fingers.

funny stuff. rec.

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 25, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, now that’s clever.

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Sep 25, 2010 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

maybe if they do kick to Cribbs (and our return game is good), we can field-goal them to death?

by discoinferno083 on Sep 24, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

As good as Dawson is, he is not Gus the Field Goal Kicking Mule.

"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan

by woodsmeister on Sep 24, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

are mules allowed in the NFL?

by discoinferno083 on Sep 24, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, mules don’t exist, so I’d say no.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 24, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

please explain.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 25, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

So below.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mules exist, they just can’t breed.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mules exist but scientifically they are not an animal.

Anything that cannot reproduce is, scientifically not an animal. It is non exist to science.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s right. It’s not its own species, but it is still an animal.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 25, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s iffy. I haven’t been in AP Bio in two years but I swear my teacher said if it can’t reproduce it’s not an animal or something. Maybe that it isn’t represented on the horse family tree?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 25, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it would be on the horse family tree. I also know that it isn’t considered a species, so maybe that’s what you are thinking of?

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 25, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 25, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it’s not an animal, what is it? A plant?

by Roger Dorn on Sep 25, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s non existent.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 25, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw field-goaling them to death, lets just hire Gus to kick them.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
1. the logical end result of a Derek Anderson pass

by Simmsinns on Sep 25, 2010 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have four words for you:
Le´Ron McLain, Alabama, estimated weight: 260 lbs.
Willis McGahee, Miami, estimated weight: 232 lbs.
Jalen Parmele, Toledo, estimated weight: 222 lbs.
Ray Rice, Rutgers, estimated weight: 218 lbs.

by mooncamping on Sep 25, 2010 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s 28 words sir.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 25, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but I think you get the point.

by mooncamping on Sep 26, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

So here goes, we play:
DT Ahtyba Rubin NG Sean Rogers DT Chris Gocong
      Jason Trusnik Robaire Smith Ahtyba Rubin
OLB D´Quell Jackson ILB Jason Trusnik ILB Chris Gocong OLB Eric Barton
CB Sheldon Brown CB Eric Wright
        T.J. Ward T.J. Ward
        Abe Elam FS MATT ROTH Abe Elam
        Joe Haden Joe Haden
                                                                        SS Abe Elam
                                                                              Sheldon Brown
                                                                              Eric Wright
                                                                              T.J. Ward
                                                                              Joe Haden

The key here is: You park the large free safety, Matt Roth, behind the already large ILB´s Jason Trusnik and Chris Gocong, right in the middle of the field. He does not move until he sees the play evolving. It means there is a person to contend in the middle of the field at all times, someone to tackle the also formidable tight-ends Todd Heap, Dennis Pitta and Ed Dickson, for example. I´ve talked about gorge defenses before, this means offenses force a dynamic on defenses, predicating run or pass to be defensed, that tends to void the middle of the field in favor of outside containment.

by mooncamping on Sep 25, 2010 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like my creative formatting did not register, so once again:
LDT Ahtyba Rubin, Jason Trusnik
NG Sean Rogers, Robaire Smith
RDT Chris Gocong, Ahtyba Rubin
LOLB D´Quell Jackson
LILB Jason Trusnik
RILB Chris Gocong
ROLB Eric Barton
CB Sheldon Brown, T.J. Ward, Abe Elam, Joe Haden
CB Eric Wright, T.J. Ward, Abe Elam, Joe Haden
FS Matt Roth…or termed: Owner of the middle of the field
SS Abe Elam, Sheldon Brown, Eric Wright, T.J. Ward, Joe Haden
Another factor here is to get a rotation going on the defensive backs that makes it harder for the offense to pick on individual players. That is, we statistically forgo statistical immersement per player per position.

by mooncamping on Sep 25, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moon, that’s so crazy that it just might work! Since it looks like D’qwell is out for tomorrow, I know this is way out there but I would go with a rotation of Eric Steinbach and Ben Watson in his spot. Hear me out. Steinbach would be in on obvious running downs because a man his size that can move like he does could really set the edge. Watson should only come in on 3rd and long situations where it’s obviously a pass. His hands and nimble feet would really help him man up on Todd Heap thereby eradicating their best playmaker down the seam. Thus, leaving us with 7players defending the pass against their 4. This takes away Baltimore’s ability to obfuscate their playcalling. Also, if it’s a run and Watson is in, he would be sturdy enough to not be a millstone out there. Although circuitously shedding blockers, you know as well as I that a straight line is the shortest path. We could call this the “FLUSH D” as in flush that shit down the toilet……What the hell are you on man? Can I get some of that for Sundays around here? I need it the way our offense has been playing to not lose…….

by justrandy on Sep 25, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, God made me high.
I dare you to implement that though.

by mooncamping on Sep 26, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA…..Sorry, I’m not a God guy although I seem to pray a lot during the second half this year to no avail. To each his own and all! Anyway, I laughed because that’s the best you can do? I’m not trying to argue or anything but you pulled the God card so quickly that it made me laugh. You said that you dared me to do it! Hahaha. That’s so funny to me on so many levels. You figure that you can turn the message board against me if I slander GOD….hahaha. That’s good stuff Moon but let’s try to stay on topic. My point was that you are OBVIOUSLY crazy insane or insane crazy! Roth at FS?! Dude, what would the concrete-footed one do if a receiver broke free in the open field? Safeties are the last line of defense. Do you think he could cover even the worst receiver in the NFL on an out and up? Opposing coordinators would consistently and effectively go over the top on this lineup. There’s just too many obvious flaws with your insane logic and it’s pointless to keep listing them. You just can’t argue logic with an insane person…..

by justrandy on Sep 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec creative formatting

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 25, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

when did the browns invent cloning and why did they clone Gocong of all people?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 25, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I noticed that too……hahaha….

by justrandy on Sep 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not wacko for Flacco, Baltimore won’t score more than 14 points. Think I hate the Ravens more than the Steelers.

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Sep 25, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch

More than the Steelers eh? But Pittsburgh is the bandwagon team of the NFL. I bet over half their fan base are Laker/Yankee fans as well. But obviously your free to your own opinion.

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Sep 25, 2010 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea, when you steal an NFL team, fans of that team aren’t going to like that new team much. Especially when we play twice a year.

by StuckInPa on Sep 25, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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