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No word yet on if Jake Delhomme would be doing full practices, or just basic workouts. He won't practice Wednesday but should be out there Thursday and Friday, according to Mangini.

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Now we take the chance of pulling Wallace who could possibly be building a chemistry with the offense.

by The naome40 on Sep 29, 2010 11:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That’s a question by the way

by The naome40 on Sep 29, 2010 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

certainly not a good one, though.

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by Ryan Kelsey on Sep 29, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the only person Seneca has chemistry with is Cribbs, and while that is certainly nice, Delhomme does have pretty good chemistry with Momass and Robi, so I’m calling it even.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seneca also got a lot more production out of Watson, although Jake and Moore seemed to have a good connection.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Sep 29, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delhomme still has solid chemistry with watson from what I saw during the preseason and the first game. he is able to find watson when needed, whereas he doesn’t use watson as a crutch because of his familiarity (which seneca might do).

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 29, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think I’d take my chances going back to Delhomme but I think that it is very telling that it is a matter of debate between the 8-year backup and our originally named starter—or to put it another way: the Browns still do not have a starting caliber QB.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Sep 29, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well said. I honestly don’t know which one I would take at this point. they both have their strengths and weaknesses and they kind of even each other’s out.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 29, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that it is very telling that it is a matter of debate between the 8-year backup and our originally named starter

is anyone in the organization debating this, or just the fans?

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 29, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing it’s just the fans. Delhomme wasn’t signed to be a back up.

by StuckInPa on Sep 29, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. I was thinking about the fans but I certainly hope this is not a matter of debate in the organization.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Sep 30, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, never a laser rocket arm when you need one. Still, if the team could lay off the penalties then either of those two could get us to a win.

by JustBob on Sep 29, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Right, you could tell by one half of healthy play that Delhomme isn’t starting caliber. It’s funny, he was pretty good during that one half.

by StuckInPa on Sep 29, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s just one man’s opinion, but don banks on cnnsi says to stay w/ seneca even after jake is officially healthy.

i think i agree.

by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 29, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

In his one half of healthy football Delhomme looked way better than wallace has since. He also has a much longer resume to fall back on than Seneca.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t Delhomme looked any better than Delhomme. He was a good safety away from tossing two INT’s in the first half.

Wallace made a horrible throw against KC, but he has protected the ball.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My typing blows.

That should be “I don’t think* Delhomme”

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, that makes “I don’t think Delhomme looked any better than Delhomme” much more clearer.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 29, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

“More clearer” made me laugh harder than “Delhomme looked any better than Delhomme”.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 30, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Uh, damn.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 30, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."--John Madden

by Kimble_79 on Sep 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want Seneca to start Sunday.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Sep 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

we can break Delhomme back in with a nonconference game vs Atlanta next week.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Sep 29, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see why conference or non-conference matters in this situation.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not that it makes a huge difference, but maybe he feels Delhomme’s experience against a team he used to face twice a year would help. It didn’t against Tampa.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 29, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Im just saying that if we’re going to switch back to Jake when he’s healthy, I’d rather let Wallace continue the chemistry he has in a division game. I’d rather break Jake back in and break Seneca’s momentum in a game that is less likely to have playoff ramifications.

Yes, I’m still hoping we can split with Pitt and Baltimore and sweep the Bungles.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Sep 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Only chemistry I see Wallace making is with the sideline.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, if that kind of optimism is your reason, I won’t stop you.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think its THAT far outside the realm of possibility. I still think Baltimores a better squad than Pitt and we showed we can run with them Sunday. Just gotta work out the kinks.

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Sep 30, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s certainly not impossible, but your irrational optimism beats mine.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 30, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how McCoy has looked with his second team reps.

by OSUMoneyball on Sep 29, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet mooncamping knows.

by emily522 on Sep 29, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not willing to write off Delhomme just yet. He looked good prior to the injury. If he’s ready, I say we play him.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Sep 29, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree, would rather play Delhomme. Have more faith in him completing long passes. Also fear the pick 6 a bit more with him though.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 29, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both of them have had a pick 6 right?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say the circumstances were a little different.

by StuckInPa on Sep 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I didn’t see Delhomme’s, but all indications were that it was a terrible decision. I did see Wallace’s, and his seems pretty feaking awful too.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So there is a good-looking pick 6? The funny thing is we are able to even compare them in this category. I mean that is a really amazing kind of question: “which QBs pick 6 looked worse?” Doesn’t leave me brimming with confidence for either one. Still, after only 3 games I can see how it might be difficult to choose between them. I slightly favor Delhomme at this point.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Sep 29, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying one looked different, just that the circumstances were different. Delhomme was given the starting job out of training camp, and it’s not like Wallace has been spectacular. He’s been serviceable. We shouldn’t be happy just because someone is slightly better than DA/BQ, seeing as they were the worst QBs in the league last year.

by StuckInPa on Sep 29, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, but in general.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 29, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you,Wallace is not the answer, going forward. He runs around fine but he can’t complete a pass down the field(he did hit Cribbs with one)but that’s not good enough.
      I say when Jake is ready let him play.We can still salvage the season(sort of)and get a few wins under our belt,get the Texas kid Colt ready to go as fast as we can,and get rid of Wallace
            My opinion GO BROWNS

by dawginhouston on Sep 29, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My opinion GO BROWNS

Can’t argue with that.

by StuckInPa on Sep 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

mooncamping could find a way

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on Sep 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming you’re new here, and if that’s the case, you’ll find out soon enough.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what a wonderful experience you have ahead of you….

Never underestimate the powers of Josh Cribbs

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 29, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always love when they make first contact.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 29, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moon is probably the single mos interesting person on dbn. I swear the guy is a mad genius.

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by brownsboy14 on Sep 29, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I swear the guy is a mad genius.

Fixed.

by StuckInPa on Sep 29, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well let’s be fair now… As far as I’ve seen, he hasn’t been too far out there all that much lately.

by shep615 on Sep 30, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

lately

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 30, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

The most interesting man in the (DBN) world.

by emily522 on Sep 29, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t always get aroused by footbal players. But when I do, I prefer fullbacks.

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 30, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a twisted version of the Dos Eqius commercial.

"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."--John Madden

by Kimble_79 on Sep 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

And as soon as I posted that I read Emily’s comment.

/Palm in forehead

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by Kimble_79 on Sep 30, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moony always does.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 30, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 30, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT – Your new sig stinks. I loved the old one.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 30, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Cincinnati native I’ve always considered the Reds my national league team, so I like this one better.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 30, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like the National teams. When I was a kid, I remember my dad screaming "C’mon! AFC needs a win baby!" a few seconds before Norwood missed that field goal in the Super Bowl. That moment left an imprint in my mind. To this day I can’t stand the NFC or the National League. They both have a certain feel that I don’t like.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 30, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like the American League and the bastardized form of the game they play. I wish I could root for the Tribe, but they’ll have to ditch the DH first. The games are too boring to stomache.

"And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!" -- Marty Brennaman

by golanbatrac on Sep 30, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must confess I don’t like the DH rule, but it won’t stop me from being an indians fan. Roughing the passer penalties don’t stop me from rooting for the browns.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 30, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, wish I felt the same way, but I actually have the opposite take. DH’s are losing their appeal though.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 1, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too boring? I think watching the pitcher hit is boring. I’d much rather see a guy at the plate who actually can hit instead of an automatic out.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 1, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. And watching somebody get an intentional walk so the pitcher can throw out his counterpart is even more boring.

by JustBob on Oct 1, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

and this

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 2, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 2, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually had a chance to ask former Braves pitching coach Leo Mazzone a question about this. He had worked a season or so in Baltimore, so I asked him was it easier or harder in the American League, pitching coach wise.

He said that most people think that making the decision to remove a pitcher is harder in the NL (lead, is he coming up in the order, etc.), but coaches are so good at using their benches and making double switches that he thought it was harder in the AL. You had to make the call on the pitcher alone. You don’t have the built in spot where you can remove a pitcher.

I always felt the same way, it was nice to have someone smart agree.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 2, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

To this day I can’t stand the NFC or the National League. They both have a certain feel that I don’t like.

YOU TOO?!

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 30, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with the National League but I don’t like the NFC and I know the reason is because of Fox’s coverage.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 30, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious, have we basically given up hope for Colt? Is he still supposed to be groomed to be our franchise QB? I just don’t know why we all think we’re going to draft a QB with that 1st round pick instead of a great WR and surround our QB with weapons.

by StuckInPa on Sep 30, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

When you have the oppurtunity to draft a franchise QB, you do it. Regardless of past plans.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 30, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. I’m pulling for Colt, but if the FO wants to take Andrew Luck, I have no problem with it.

by emily522 on Oct 1, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure how many people actually thought McCoy was going to be our franchise QB in the first place. There’s a reason he was picked in the 3rd round, and franchise QB’s are rarely found that late in the draft. It would be really nice if he developed in to one but I don’t think we can count on it.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 1, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of us we’re just feeling excited about potentially having “that guy” waiting in the wings. But now reality has set in, and while McCoy certainly has a chance to pan out, if you don’t already have a franchise QB and you get the chance to take one, you do it.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Oct 1, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying, don’t be surprised when Holmgren doesn’t draft a QB #1 next year. It’s apparently against his nature to begin with and I think we’re going to give Colt a shot.

by StuckInPa on Oct 1, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like this is going to be the case.

by emily522 on Oct 1, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t think we’re going to let Colt stand in the way of acquiring a franchise QB if we think one is available, but at the same time I’m not certain we’re going to pick a QB #1 next year either. Many things will happen between now and then which can change our draft needs and opinions. But I don’t see the FO putting off getting a pontential franchise QB another 2 years just to give McCoy a shot, because if he doesn’t work out then we’re setting our team back another few years. If we have a chance to get one then we’re not going to stop because we have McCoy.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

And as Dirty Harry said, “A man can’t go against his nature. It makes him constipated.”

by JustBob on Oct 1, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/09/cleveland_browns_quarterback_j_3.html

After reading this, it doesn’t look like Delhomme is going to start Sunday.

by StuckInPa on Sep 30, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang. I was kind of hoping for a return to Delhomme… I think his on-the-field leadership is superior. Wallace just looks distant and aloof most of the time.
On another note… I did not like the sound of this from Harrison and Mangini from the article:

On Wednesday, running back Jerome Harrison expressed frustration about not knowing his role. Mangini responded, “His role is to go in and to carry the ball when he’s asked to carry the ball and do it effectively, and protect the football. I haven’t talked to him about that. I’d be happy to talk to any player about their role at any point and I’m here every day.”

I think Harrison is largely a “poseur” as far as being a #1 running back. This sounds like the beginning of a genuine discontented player/coach relationship. If it keeps going like this, I can’t see how Harrison ends up staying with the team at the end of this year or playing the majority downs in the future. That is, unless some of the other backs go down with injuries.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Sep 30, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a 9 year vet, I’m pretty sure. He has no where else to go. He’ll listen and like it.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 30, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if you were exaggerating on purpose, but Harrison has only been in the NFL 5 years. He was drafted in ’06.

. . . says the man from Columbus.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 1, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

while 5 years is way less than 9, it’s still over half the average career for a running back.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Oct 1, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swear I heard somebody say 9 once.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass. ™

by SpecialBrownie on Oct 1, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, on NFL Live they said Mangini said if there are no setbacks Delhomme will start Sunday.

by StuckInPa on Oct 1, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the “Harrison expressed frustration” bit was actually an interpretation of his response to his saying “I don’t know …” when asked what his role is. It seemed to me that the interviewer (don’t recall who it was) was trying to get Harrison to say something that would make a juicy headline. I think people are trying to force life into a story that doesn’t really exist. At least that is my impression.

by JustBob on Oct 1, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is highly possible.

"My mother always told me: ‘You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You’ll get a good sense of their character." - Ironic words from LeBron James

For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Oct 2, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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