Official Cleveland Browns NFL Roster Cut Thread - Brandon McDonald, C.J. Mosley Gone
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 2:34 PM EDT
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PrintWell, I had hoped to get one more roster projection up-and-posted, but there's no point now since the cuts are quickly starting to roll in around the league. Today, two of the "big" cuts reported were cornerback Brandon McDonald and defensive end C.J. Mosley.
I doubted McDonald's chances heading into camp, but it seemed like he'd be "okay" as the fourth cornerback. Apparently not, and he won't even get the chance to "rape" Terrell Owens. Mosley, meanwhile, spent all of camp on the physically unable to perform list.
NOTE: GO HERE FOR THE FINAL BROWNS ROSTER CUT THREAD.
Here is the official list of Browns players who have been cut so far:
Offensive Players
- WR Jake Allen - No surprise given he had two horrible drops in the final preseason game, one that led to an interception. He's also made several blunders at the receiver position in other preseason games.
- WR Syndric Steptoe - He was a former seventh-round pick who happened to stick around awhile. I thank him for his cool name, but after several years, it was clear he really couldn't benefit our offense.
- TE Joel Gamble - We didn't get a long look at the young tight end, but he was already released once so this wasn't a surprise.
- OL Casey Bender - Bender had no shot at making the final roster, and neither did Fanaika below. They either didn't get reps in the preseason, or were a part of the offensive line that kept getting McCoy and Ratliff killed.
- OG Paul Fanaika - See above.
- OL Joel Reinders - We finally saw our YouTube project in action against the Bears for a few series. His highlights were allowing a pass rusher to easily blow by him and then to receive a lecture from Mangini on the sideline. There's still an off chance he could be on the practice squad for development.
Defensive Players
- DL C.J. Mosley - With Brian Schaefering coming on strong, this wasn't too big of a surprise I guess. On that note, I would've thought we would've just left him on the PUP for six weeks in case we needed him.
- CB Coye Francies - Can we please try to get Francies on the practice squad? He has a knack for taking a chance at making the tackle at the line of scrimmage rather than waiting for a receiver/runner to come to him.
- CB Brandon McDonald - This is probably the biggest surprise given the news that Gerard Lawson and Coye Francies had already been cut. This either means we will keep the extra safeties for special teams help, or someone like Chris Chancellor or DeAngelo Smith will sneak on the roster. If nothing else, we could probably find a veteran corner who was cut from a different team and sign him.
Use this as the official open thread for rumored cuts on the Browns or big cuts around the NFL. After all the cuts are made, I'll go back and look at the last roster projection I made. However, I'll go on record with one change here: with Montario Hardesty done for the year, I'd insert Chris Jennings in his place by default.
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so who is left at CB now? Haden, Brown, Wright, DeAngelo Smith? Chancellor (sp)? I like our top 3 but if someone needs a breather it could be nasty.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
Mike Adams would probably double as the fourth cornerback if necessary. I’m half expecting us to look on the waiver wire an sign someone who has been cut at the position.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That does make sense. Lots of interesting cuts today.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI, for a list of cuts, the OBR is doing a pretty good job maintaining a list here:
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=149&f=1547&t=6307157
If someone finds a link to a good cumulative cuts list somewhere, feel free to share it!
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Ratty. Gone.
Donald Thomas and Jarvis Green would be worth a look, I’d think.
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I like green. He would be a lot like coleman here. Veteran, solid starter, good size, and lots of 3-4 experience.
Thomas may be worth a look as a backup/spot starting O-Lineman. I would rather have him than any of our backups at this point.
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He can’t.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 4, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling he might end up back in cincy.
by johnnyphoenix on Sep 4, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
With Cincy cutting Bryant and Jones, I wouldn’t be suprised either. I think that it would be nice if the Browns at least tried to get Delhomme a veteran that can still play a bit. Also someone to help out the younger receivers a bit since I think Engram will be cut.
No way because Jordan Shipley has already taken over Housh’s old role as a possession WR in the slot.
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Are you serious?!
If the Browns sign Housh, then they are impeding the progress and development of our young WRs.
No thanks.
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Per the OBR, Ray Ventrone will be on the 53-man roster:
Lane Adkins has confirmed news reports that Browns special teams standout Ray Ventrone will be on the team’s 53-man roster. Ventrone is a strong contributor on special teams, giving him the sort of versatility prized in bottom-of-the-roster players.
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Isaac Sowells cut by Bengals. Alex Hall cut again by Giants. Troy Smith cut by Ravens.
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Somewhere Jaws is weeping.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 4, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This is how players get screwed by restricted free agency. Smith could’ve found a team that was more interested in him (not us).
by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 4, 2010 5:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
SMITH! GET HIMMMMMMM.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 4, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
All quiet on the roster cut front, but I’m sure the news will come flowing in soon…
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That’s because the Browns announced they will make all their final cuts official at 6 pm.
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Yeah, doesn’t seem like any more early leaks (i.e. McDonald, Mosley) will come in.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been scouring and watching Twitter and I got nothing either.
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Now the Browns have said that they will not make their announcement until close to 8pm.
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Just wondering, where/who made this announcement? Was it online or someone on radio/TV.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My nemesis Tony Grossi just tweeted it.
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so that means there is only a 50% chance of it being the truth correct? I think thats about how accurate his articles and info are.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish that were true but he has access more so than either Chris or myself to the Browns and this is the truth seeing as how we have not heard anything yet and it is nearly 7 P.M. now.
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I still dont get how he got that kinda access. His articles are garbage. I really think that if you, chris, Sam, or Brian were given his access you could make the PD’s Browns coverage bearable again. Hell for your limitations in access you guys are pretty spot on with assessments and recaps and such.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It is because all PD reporters are Union.
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Last I checked, the Plain Dealer was the major daily newspaper in Cleveland. Of course their lead Browns reporter is going to have better access. It has nothing to do with any unions.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 4, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he may have been commenting on how they get to those positions in the first place.
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You are correct.
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And thanks for the kind words.
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not a problem. While I was living in AZ Dawgscooper kept me informed on the QB battle (or lack thereof in terms of talent) between Quinn/Anderson and you literally had a breakdown of each days practice and each pass.
Brian and the rest I saw for the first time here and on Bleacher report and came away impressed. Insightful, for the most part unbiased reporting that didnt just say what the masses wanted to hear. It was like actual gasp journalism.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Here are some of the cuts that the Eagles have made (sort of noteworthy in case Heckert sees any alumni):
The Philadelphia Eagles have released WRs Chad Hall and Jordan Norwood, TE Cornelius Ingram, C A.Q. Shipley, OGs Dallas Reynolds and Fenuki Tupou, DE Eric Moncur, DT Jeff Owens, LB Tracy White, FS Macho Harris and SS Quintin Demps, according to Chris McPherson, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com.
I liked Norwood when we had him; I’d like him on the practice squad if Mitchell makes the final roster.
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I am a bit surprised they cut ingram and Demps. They were both young and talented and without them, the depth at TE and SS isn’t great. however, both have had major injury issues so they probably didn’t want to waste any more time on them. I guess getting Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman just makes Demps and Harris expendable…
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If Houshmandzadeh goes to the Vikings, that later-round pick I made for him suddenly looks a whole lot better.
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Leinart was cut by the Cards, looks like Anderception will be starting after all. In the words or George Lopez: “They’ll learn”.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 4, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
that news is so 2 days ago lol seriously though the Cards were in the same boat the Browns were in last year. Leinart/Quinn (Carbon copies of eachother on the field) and Anderson.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Former Browns tight end Martin Rucker cut by the Cowboys.
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Brett Ratliff has been cut according to CLE news.
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Hopefully this ends the “Colt McCoy cut” garbage thats been floating out there.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That rumor was a direct product of Grossi, who wanted some national attention and sadly, he got just that. I’m sure his bosses praised him for that seeing as it brought a ton of attention to both the PD and Cleveland.com, when he should have gotten fired for printing such nonsense.
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Nothing new, just from Doerschuk this time:
Brandon McDonald and C.J. Mosley will be on the cut list, but the Browns are sitting on it until 8 or so while they work through waivers. They had to turn it into the league. They don’t have to give it to us. Yet.
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Schefter has to have that info…
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And queue another Lombardi article about “the Secret”.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 4, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Rams cut LB Bobby Carpenter….I think he would make a great addition and both Eric Mangini and Rob Ryan could turn him into a good player here in Cleveland.
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I think so too…he would be cheap and ready to prove himself worthy of playing in the NFL. Sometimes a guy who is in the position that Carpenter is in, is highly motivated to succeed.
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my thoughts exactly. He may not be a ‘bad’ addition, but I wouldn’t care either way what we did in that situation.
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Also consider the fact that the Browns have many older LBs like Eric Barton, David Bowens, and Scott Fujita. Bringing more youth into the ranks is never a bad thing.
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thats true…but how many old guys will we have after final roster cuts? I think barton is definitely gone and Bowens could also be out the door. that leaves us with younger guys like gocong, Maiava, and Veikune…in fact, if both of those guys get cut and the roster shakes out like I think it will after that, the average age of the browns LBs, will be 25.9 years old. Carpenter just turned 27 so in a way, he would be a veteran almost on the team. gocong is considered somewhat of a ‘veteran’ on the inside and he has been in the league as long as carpenter and has more game experience.
Even if we keep bowens, carpenter is still older than the average age of our LBs.
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ready to prove himself worthy of playing in the NFL
so he wasn’t ready to prove himself worthy of the NFL the past 4 years?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Sep 4, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He just got cut and that is what I was referring to. You read into that wrong.
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Once the other roster cuts go up, I’ll have another thread up highlighting the released players and any surprise additions.
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excellent thanks Chris. This feels like Draft day all over again for me in terms of anxiousness. I love Browns season.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Just hung out with Delhomme, Mack, and Pashos. They were just drinking some Stein Bach Pale Bock at GLBC. Any other DBN people up there?
There is a Santa Claus, and he’s in Detroit on May 2nd
Were they worried about getting cut?
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Yeah, they were really pounding down some Great Lakes… Probably worried about getting cut.
But last year Martin Rucker was there…
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by Clevo's Finest on Sep 4, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a reason he was cut. he was a solid starter…several years ago…
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Didn’t know they had enough depth.
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno if its a depth issue, it may be a ‘dre bly can’t really play anymore’ issue.
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Ur probably right.
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that, the former second rounder. I haven’t followed him enough, but I wonder why he didn’t play much on a Bills team that seemed to lack receivers.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
really? I was hearing Hardy had a good shot at winning the job in Buffalo
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Yeah, when I google’d him to make sure it was the same guy I was thinking of, I saw a couple of articles confirming it.
Buffalo is a bunch of morons. He’s got some height and skill. do beleive he had some injuries somewhere along the line.
by discoinferno083 on Sep 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Lisa Lampanelli.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 4, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rectified
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bears cut loose Dan LeFevour too; Mike Holmgren reportedly liked him prior to the draft.
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he didnt look too bad that last preseason game. I liked him as a late round prospect in the draft, but we already have a project QB on the roster :(
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow…LeFevour was the Bears’ future more so than Cutler IMO.
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Woah, that’s surprising.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 4, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually have a pre-made thread formatted (so that I can quickly make a new post with all the names) made up. I have a section called “former Browns released,” so Harrell is on the list. Just waiting to post the darn thing already; I’m tired of refreshing pages for the past several hours.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry.
And, yeah, the wait is getting a bit ridiculous. I hope they’re up to something big.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
like I said to golan, Alex Hall and rucker were both cut. for the second time this offseason. I even posted a FB status about how many former Savage guys are being cut.
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Grossi:
#Browns have set a franchise record for elapsed time in withholding final cut list.
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im shocked it hasnt been leaked by cut players/agents yet.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is funny
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t realize NFL.com has a good complete list of league-wide cuts here:
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Notable cuts: CB Brandon McDonald.
Others: WR Jake Allen, WR Syndric Steptoe, OL Casey Bender, OL Joel Reinders, TE Joel Gamble, DB Coye Francies.
This is all old news though
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 4, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting note, Cribbs posted a twitter saying “A lot of my boys were released from the team.. :( some things I can’t understand”
This has me expecting some vets/bigger names gone
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
Bobby Engram cut according to Schefter.. and Kooistra
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
Leads me to believe that Carlton Mitchell is now on the active roster.
MoMass, Robo, Stuckey, Cribbs, Mitchell… am I missing any other WR’s?
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the hell backs up Thomas then?
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i’m guessing, should he get injured, they’d just put eric steinbach in his place. john st. clair can play LT as well
Jake is my hommeboy
Thomas will NEVER get injured.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
just posted by ESPN Cleveland on Twitter" Waived: L.Asante, C Chancellor, P.Fanaika, C.Geathers, T.Ivey, C.Jennings, B.McDonald, S.Miller, P.Murray, B.Ratliff, B.Sanford & D.Smith
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
So hopefully Robaire and Shaun are ready to go because we dropped quite a few DL players… and shocked to see Asante cut already.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Asante, wow
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
whats funny about that is they have an article up on Clevelandbrowns.com interviewing him and talking about him possibly getting the call to play this season…
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
asante is a surprise. I think Asante and geathers WILL make the PS.
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I hope they do, Geathers is a project but god damn is he a monster. With the right coaching (Ryan and Mangini) he could be a force on our DL.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not surprised about Kooistra…Engram wasn’t that big of a surprise, but he looked nice when he saw the field.
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I thought they would keep Kooistra over Yates who has looked AWFUL.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
in other news Shaun Rogers activated from the PUP according to ESPN Cleveland
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
Horay
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 4, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys, if you don’t mind, let’s try to move the reaction discussions over to the new thread:
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2010/9/4/1670227/cleveland-browns-announce-final
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