Perloff predicts TJ Ward as defensive ROY
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The last 7 DROYs have been linebackers and a defensive back hasn’t won since Charles Woodson in ‘98. I’d love for Ward have that kind of year, but I’m not seeing it.
Jarius Byrd should have won it last season after Cushing got busted for ’roids.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 7, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Peter King is really picking the steelers to win the super bowl?
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
also, out of 9, only 1 person chose someone other than Aaron Rodgers as MVP. way to go out on a limb guys.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
He’s been carrying the Packers for the last two years while his crap line and the defense played catch up. It’s a bit of a vogue pick, but no more than Peyton Manning winning in 2008, which was a bigger load of crap.
…and now his line is healthy and they have bulaga. It might be the ‘vogue’ pick or the ‘sexy’ pick, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be the right pick. Rodgers IMO WILL carry that team to the SB.
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So . . . you criticize Peter King for going out on a limb with his SB pick and you criticize everyone else for not going out on a limb with their MVP pick?
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a large difference from falling off the branching and going out on a limb.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Branch*
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like branching better in that context. I might start using it. With proper citation of course.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
Peter King’s super bowl pick is extremely unrealistic. There are other worthy candidates for the MVP.
The equivalent MVP pick to King’s Super Bowl pick would be someone like Stafford.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not extremely unrealistic. This is the NFL, where surprise teams often make, and win, the Super Bowl. It happens all the time (see my list below). Besides, the Steelers won the Super Bowl just two years ago so I don’t really see how anyone could say that it’s unrealistic to pick them to win this year.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
While you are correct about surprise teams making the SB, there are much better teams in the league than Pittsburgh right now. So predicting them to win is a bit unrealistic this early for me as well.
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I could say the same thing about the Pats or the Colts. There are better teams out there than them IMO. However, both are legitimate SB contenders BECAUSE of the QBs they have and the effect of the Qb in the game today. However much I hate Big Ben, he led them to 2 Super Bowls and its never unrealistic for him to make it IMO.
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IMO, Baltimore, Cincy, Green Bay, Minnesota, Tennessee, Saints, Jets, Eagles, Cowboys, and Chargers are all teams I rank well ahead of Pittsburgh. Therefore I see it as unrealistic this early and with Ben sitting out 4 games and then trying to get some momentum back in the passing game when he returns. IMO anyways. Then again who knows, maybe St. Louis rallies behind Sam Bradford and wins the SB
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I see it as highly unlikely, but realistic. I agree with you that they are all better (maybe not tennessee). However, out of those 9, only 2 have a super bowl winning QB. I don’t think that pittsburgh will live up to the predictions, but I wouldn’t be surprised because you can never truly count out a QB who has won 2 SBs.
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Sure, there are better teams than the Steelers, but people making predictions don’t like picking the obvious teams that everyone else would pick, like the Colts or the Saints, so they like to pick a “surprise” team. So what? I just don’t see why it’s so unrealistic to think that the Steelers could win the Super Bowl.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
I agree with the picking to be different thing. My opinion, its unrealistic, but then again who knows. I just think they have too much adversity to overcome this year. And I hope Troy “Hair” Polamalu gets hurt again.
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Maybe I’m even more down on the steelers than most people. I don’t believe they’re a playoff team even with ben for the full season, so to pick them for the super bowl seems absolutely ridiculous given the four game suspension.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 10, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
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and If Stafford takes a big step forward, Megatron has a beastly year, their offense puts up numbers like they are capable of, and the lions have a winning season, Stafford could be MVP.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
what I mean is, about as many things have to go right in either situation.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
(to your first comment) Megatron will have a beastly year anyways.
No. a lot more things have to go right in Detroit. Line, Defense, running game. There are definitely more question marks in Detroit, plus the fact that they aren’t as established of a team.
In short: It is much more realistic to expect a 2 time Super Bowl winning QB to lead his team (even if its not as stellar as in previous seasons) to a Super Bowl than it is to expect a 2nd year QB, without a great O-Line, who had a rocky but promising first year to suddenly win League MVP.
My point is more that Ben has been there before, he has been to the mountaintop whereas Stafford has been nowhere in the NFL yet.
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No. a lot more things have to go right in Detroit. Line, Defense, running game. There are definitely more question marks in Detroit, plus the fact that they aren’t as established of a team.
Honestly I think the Steelers have the bigger worry. They have to worry Big Ben doesn’t screw up again.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
yeah…but that is more off the field stuff. On the field question marks are much fewer in Pittsburgh…plus, from what I have heard, he has seriously tried to change a lot about his life (including get into better shape)
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I was just making a joke that it’s less likely Ben stays out of trouble than it is Detroit has all those things go right for them this season.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
touche.
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If you’re referring to Ben I think the word you’re looking for is douche. With a d not a t. Hmm…that looks weird.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
Many things have to go right for ANY team to win the Super Bowl.
Picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl isn’t anywhere near as ridiculous as picking Stafford to win the MVP. Stafford hasn’t even proven that he’s a good QB yet, let alone an MVP. The Steelers won the Super Bowl just two years ago. Not even a close comparison.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
Yeah, I don’t see it. They are relying on Mike Wallace and Mendanhall to have big years and really thin on depth at the skill positions. They have some aging pieces on defense. And they are going in with a 3rd string QB for the first 1/4 of the season.
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Plus there’s no guaranty that Ben will even play after the suspension. If Dixon is doing ok, I don’t see Pitt throwing Ben in there right away.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 7, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll play. They’re not going to sit Ben for Dennis Dixon.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Sep 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure he’ll play too. They’re going to need him.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised if the organization is hoping that they can sit Ben for Dennis Dixon. I honestly think that’s the reason they didn’t go with Batch or Leftwich as the starter. I don’t really think it will happen, nor do I think the Steelers believe it will happen, but I think they are hoping that they can see something in those 4 games that will allow them to break ties with Ben just like they did with Holmes.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
I thought Leftwhich was hurt?
Bottom line: Stuckey gets 30 catches, or he gets less.
by BrownDawg1409 on Sep 11, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He is.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 11, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh…good call, i missed that. Damn, that screws my get rid of ben conspiracy theory.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
That’s about as crazy as someone picking the Saints before last season, and that happened.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Sep 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
But that really doesn’t matter very much. As long as the Steelers can get to the playoffs — no guarentee, of course — then it won’t matter if Ben missed the first four games.
People forget how bad everyone thought the Saints defense would be last year. Not many people were even picking them to make the playoffs, let alone win the Super Bowl. Teams come out of practically nowhere to win the Super Bowl all the time. Just look at how many times it’s happened over the past decade — the Saints, Giants, Ravens, Bucs, Rams, and the first Patriots teams were all unexpected winners.
Besides, the Steelers won the Super Bowl just two years ago so it’s not crazy to think they can win it this season. I’m not saying that it’s going to happen, and it’s certainly not even likely to happen, but there are at least 12 teams right now where you can make a legitimate case that they could win the Super Bowl. The Steelers are definitely one of them.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Sep 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, it matters a lot. Chemistry is huge. Momentum is huge in the NFL. There are all sorts of subtle things about routes and timing and the way the ball is thrown that are huge in the NFL because the talent is so even.
The steelers’ offense has been so based on Ben the last few years that I think it will be hard for them to adjust away from the passing game (unless Dixon somehow carries them) and then back to the passing game and a different QB.
A lot of those teams that you mentioned had the thing that carried them to the SB in place for a while. The Saints’ offense has been great for a while. The Giants’ D was elite, as was the Ravens’. The Rams under Martz had the passing game rolling and a lot of HoFers together.
I know that any team could win the super bowl at this point, but I don’t know how you can count the steelers as in the most likely group, specifically because of the Ben situation.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I don’t think the Steelers are among the favorites to win the Super Bowl at all, but people who pick those things like to go out on a limb sometimes (because they’re probably going to be wrong anyways) so that’s what he did. It’s not likely to happen, but it’s not an unreasonable pick.
A lot of those teams that you mentioned had the thing that carried them to the SB in place for a while.
The Steelers have a large number of players who just won the Super Bowl two years ago, along with their coaching staff. I don’t know how they don’t fit this criteria as well.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
Their passing game is what is going to carry the team if they are to make it to a Super Bowl, that’s how. It would have to be the best unit on the team for them to get there, and it has been the best unit on their team for the past several years.
Their running game hasn’t been the same for several years now. Their defense was good the year they won the super bowl but it wasn’t going to carry them a la the ravens. It won’t this year either. They also have key players coming back from injury in addition to some personnel changes in areas of lesser talent, so they don’t have that continuity that those defenses that carried their teams did even if you do consider them elite.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
there are a lot of question marks…like on any team. but if things work out, I can definitely see them having a great season. Mendenhall has high expectations on him right now. I think its possible that he meets them or exceeds them. Big Ben could definitely have a great season and I honestly think that their D is better than last year (players back, younger pieces).
so they don’t have that continuity that those defenses that carried their teams did even if you do consider them elite.
I completely agree, but I also think that they can build continuity. The Saints D came together last season after not having much continuity. The Steelers D has been there before and is more veteran. Its entirely possible that they find continuity and challenge to be ‘elite’.
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Flag for repeatedly arguing that the Steelers can win the SB
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I hope they fall on their faces, and I don’t think they will live up to Peter King’s prediction.
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Dear Lord,
Please let the Browns beat Pittsburgh both games this year. Also, please do not ever let them win another SuperBowl…ever!
Amen
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by Kimble_79 on Sep 9, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are missing my point. The Saints’ offense (specifically their passing game) is what carried them, quite obviously. That offense has been good since they’ve had Drew Brees, and a lot of the key guys have been together for multiple seasons.
Their defense just had to “come together” to play defense that was good enough to slow the other teams down.
pittsburgh’s passing offense has been the unit that has been the most important to them over the course of the past few years. Maybe if you want, I’ll give you that their defense is about as important.
Regardless of which one of those units you or Peter King think can carry the steelers to the SB, neither has had over a year of continuity, even among only their best players. Polamalu and ben both have a huge impact on what they can do schematically, and both need to be in sync with their teammates down to a microscopic level.
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No it’s not.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, at least you gave a convincing argument.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
by Buckeye Brad on Sep 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just stated my position, didn’t need the argument.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Indeed.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t mean argument like having a disagreement in a nasty tone, I meant argument as in providing reasons to back up your statement. I thought that was obvious from the way I wrote the sentence.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
Well, you could have given a reason for why you think that way. That’s kind of the point of this place — to give your opinions while providing reasons for them, not just to make declarative statements without backing them up.
I don’t know that the community announcement has to do with anything.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
I don’t think so at all. I think the Saints were an easy pick last year, considering they had a QB coming off of a 5,000 yard season and all the defense had to do was not completely wet the bed.
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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Then why did practically nobody pick them to win the Super Bowl last year? And many people didn’t even pick them to make the playoffs.
You could have easily said that the Saints defense was too terrible to win anything even with that great QB. After all, most people think you need a great defense to win in the playoffs and the year before that the Saints’ defense was downright awful.
The point is that you can spin it any way you want. If you want to make a case that it was reasonable to think the Saints could win the Super Bowl then you can do that, but if you want to make the case that it was unreasonable to think that then you could do that as well. Same with the Steelers, and about a dozen other teams as well. That’s the NFL these days.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
Wonder if anyone can make a reasonable list of how the Browns could win the SB this year?
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Cribbs supernovas into our true #1 WR, MoMass grows into a lethal #2, Delhomme stays just as crisp as he’s looked during the preaseason, and Harrison \ Vickers play 16 games like last year’s final four with Hillis as an extra bulldozer.
Oh, you said reasonable. Drat.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 8, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, if twenty teams in the league fold before the season starts.
. . . says the man from Columbus.
It’ll take about 15 for the Steelers.
I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.
LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1) Haden proves to be a # 1 corner by the bye week; giving us 2 #1s
2) Ward becomes a legit starter and shows some potential to be a great run stopper a la Sanders; with Rubin plugging the middle and Ward coming in to clean up the mess, I like the start we have for our run defense
3) Oh yeah, Rubin dominates at NT, while Rogers makes a smooth beastly transition to end
4) just one of our ilb guys gives us a competent if not convincing Willis impersonation, while our outside guys evolve from showing flashes of being pass rushers, to giving us 50+ tackles and 8+ sacks
5) It clicks for Robo and he becomes a pre big contract TJ Housh
6) Mass is a real #1
7) Cribbs shows why he earned the new contract, continuing his ST dominance and finally bringing some receiving skills to the offense to go with his special packages
8) The end of Harrison’s season last year was legit, and he proves it this year
9) Davis and Hillis both make us wonder if maybe they shouldn’t be getting more carries, but we decide we can’t really afford to take anyway from Harrison because of his play, at the same time we worry we might not actually want Hardesty back next year
10) Delhomme throws 24 +tds to less than 10 int
Championship.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
I think a couple of these are feasable. I think 3 will happen and part of 4 may happen (I think roth gets 50+ tackles and 8 sacks). 1-4 definitely seem reasonable and so does 8…but all together they will, for all intents and purposes, not happen.
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10) Delhomme throws244 +tds to less than 10 int
Fixed.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I would love that, but I think if Harrison can run all year like he did at the end of last season Delhomme won’t need to give us anything that fantastic.
Wait a minute, are we really discussing the chance we have a making the SB?
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Prediction – Harrison makes the Madden Cover next year.
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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
Joe Thomas or bust.
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For the love of Joe Thomas.....
by North Coast Flea on Sep 9, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Thomas won’t need the Madden Cover, I hear he has a Joe Thomas’s House of Pancakes and Fly-fishing game coming out in the spring.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?
by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
by Villeslgr on Sep 10, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Thomas is going to be on the cover of Joe Thomas ’11
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 10, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
it comes with a spatula attachment for the Wii controller.
by Dawg Nuts on Sep 10, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I laugh at you, Peter King.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 7, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don’t laugh, but with all do respect, chuckle lightly and wonder how he came up with that.
by BrownDawg1409 on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard anything about Eric Berry? I haven’t heard much of anything about him since the draft ended.
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I just hope the first we here of him isn’t when we play them, if you catch my drift.
Kill them. Kill them all.
True! I just found one article talking about how he is now the highest paid safety in NFL history though. The NFL desperately needs a rookie cap.
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I couldn’t agree more. I don’t know how it would work, though. Would there be a lot more hold outs? And I’m guessing there would be a hell of a lot more hold outs come their second year if they played well their first.
Kill them. Kill them all.
I really don’t know, but I’ll just throw this out there…what about giving the early first round guys the maximum you can give them (right up to the rookie cap), then solely based off production on the field for that rookie season, the next years wages are driven off those. Incentives=Harder Play=Better Production=Better Games?
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That could actually solve many problems.
a) a guy like revis would get more than a bust and he feels more satisfied with the money he makes because he ‘earns’ it instead of it being given to him. the whole holdout I feel is that he felt like he earned more so he wanted more. these guys will be truly ‘earning’ their salary.
b) this could stop some of the entitlement and work ethic problems with some first rounders. Imagine what Gerard Warren could have been like if he was forced to earn his ‘big money’. Guys like Warren and Jamarcus Russell would possibly bust less and more teams would be willing to pay them first round money because the money would be more based on production and the players would likely do better.
c) on the same subject of busts, having a Jamarcus Russell or a Gerard Warren would be a much smaller financial burden and would be less likely to handcuff owners when it came to the salary cap.
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I haven’t looked too much into this though. How does the players union feel about a rookie cap in general? That would be the key in passing such a thing. Owners would obviously jump right on this bandwagon.
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I agree. this makes so much sense the owners would be stupid not to do it…its just the damn unions…
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Actually the union wants this too. Way to bring politics in, though.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I don’t think discussing the player’s union in this context should really be considered political, unless it is used in the sense that all unions are the same.
I think he meant the last part of bross’s statement which was not talking solely about the players’ union.
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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
wasn’t trying to bring politics in. was trying to make a sarcastic joke about how unions are always the problem that failed (though no organization is perfect)
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As of right now, the players are for it as long as they are assured that the saved money will be spent on existing players.
They don’t want to see any less money spent, they just want to see it spent differently.
The owners feel that they do a good enough job on spending their money now, why should they be “forced” to spend money in any fashion.
I think there will be some sort of a rookie cap, but they have to work together to get something done in the CBA.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m interested in this too — haven’t heard much buzz on Berry since he was drafted. Not that it’s a bad thing, I’m just curious if someone knows how he looked in camp or the preseason…
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