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Fantasy Football: Jerome Harrison's Stock, and Week 1 Plays

Jerome Harrison's fantasy stock is up.

Fantasy football owners who drafted Jerome Harrison are probably pretty happy as they head into the season (in a fantasy perspective) that he will have a larger bulk of the carries than expected this season due to the injury to Montario Hardesty.

Hardesty's injury means that players in non-continuation leagues will drop him immediately and hope that Peyton Hillis is still a free agent.

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While I don't think Hillis will have the type of season Hardesty might have had, he's a compelling player to have on your bench for the first few weeks of the season. If he doesn't produce many fantasy points over the first three weeks, then he's probably not worth keeping. But if he ends up being a pretty big threat near the goal line, in addition to a guy who gets you 30-50 receiving yards for certain games, then he'll be a great asset later on in the season. There might even be games where Harrison gets off to a slow start, Hillis comes in and powers through the defense, and Mangini decides to stick with the hot hand.

Nonetheless, the point remains that Harrison's stock has risen, making him pretty much a must-start for the first two weeks of the regular season.

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In a 12 man league and with the Browns showing some versatility on offense, I decided to pick up MoMass…..he’s our #1 and has looked polished in preseason, should I replace either Hines Ward (v. Atlanta) or Wes Welker (v. Cincy) with Mo, or should I let it ride for week 1 and see how it works out? Also picked up P. Crayton, but figure he’ll need a couple weeks to catch up to SD’s offense

by year of the elf on Sep 8, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Welker, if healthy, should put up good numbers against the Bengals not-so-good Safeties in week one.

Massaquoi gets a bump this week with Aqib Talib serving a one game suspension. If ever you’re going to use him, this is the week.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would play Mo over Hines Ward. I’m not sold on Dennis Dixon as a passer, and with the loss of Holmes, more effort will be put on stopping Ward until Mike Wallace starts getting noticed.

by OSUMoneyball on Sep 8, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would keep Welker in the lineup. I might be setting my expectations too high, but I think he’ll be right back to being an often targeted receiver by Tom Brady.

Between Hines Ward and Massaquoi, I’m not a fan of either matchup. I think the Steelers’ passing game is going to be take a bit of a back seat with Dennis Dixon under center, hurting Ward’s production a bit. With the Browns, we might not score a lot, but if we do, it could be to almost ANYONE — Massaquoi, Robiskie, Stuckey, Watson, Cribbs, Hillis, Moore, Harrison. I don’t think we really have that one “consistently targeted” threat at receiver, besides maybe Watson.

In essence, it’s a good question because I don’t have a confident answer. I’d still probably start Ward because if Pittsburgh gets behind through early turnovers or something, I see Ward having a good chance at being Dixon’s go-to-guy.

Agree with Crayton too — definitely keep him out.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 8, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have WAY too many options to score (which is good for us, just not as far as fantasy is concerned).

I like Hillis as a sleeper in PPR, but unfortunately my league is shallow.

I have a spot open for a “goal line vulture”… should that be Hillis? McGaahee? hmmm

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would go Hillis all day on that one

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by Kimble_79 on Sep 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even with the year Ray Rice had last year, McGahee ran for 12 TDs. McGahee over Hillis, I’d think.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 8, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew there was a reason I picked Willis.

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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, thanks for that. He was one of the backs I was targeting from the git-go.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won’t rack up a ton of yards, but he does score lots of TDs and could be a beast against a weaker defense.

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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem for me is that his Td’s stopped entirely about mid-way through last season.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had 7 rushing TDs in the final 6 games last year.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 8, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus if Rice breaks down, Willis is a top 10 back.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean picked up as in drafted? If not are those your only 3 receivers? Or do you mean as a waiver wire pick up and you plan to use Mass as a 2nd or 3rd receiver?

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If thats directed towards me…..i’m in a league with my brother and cousins and for whatever reason they dont run a live draft and i’ve had a lot of things on my plate….so Wes Welker and Hines Ward were drafted for me along with 5 RB and Lee Evans, I’ve been on the Evans bandwagon the last 2 years and it never paid off….so on waivers i picked up MoMass and P. Crayton…….Delhomme seems to go to MoMass a lot in situational plays (i.e. 4th and 1 on a slant) in the preseason, but as everyone’s pointed out we truly do have a lot of people that can score on offense…..

by year of the elf on Sep 8, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I see. That sucks. I would go with Welker. I always see the Patriots a team with a chip on their shoulder for whatever reason and I could see them wanting to let Welker show he’s back. Although Moss has been whining (/sarc) a lot lately, so maybe Brady decides to make the game about Moss instead.

I’m leery of anyone from our offense outside of Harrison as a flex, just because I don’t think we can really have any idea of what we are going to try and do besides run the ball.

I also think Ward is usually good play, but I thought somewhere I had read he is a bit dinged up and they are starting Dixon, so i wonder if they try to start the season off conservative by running the ball to stay in games late and to let Dixon get his feet wet.

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve also had Ward a few times the past couple seasons and he was so-so, gotta question what he’s got left….Dixon might have a tendency to use his feet to get outta trouble….MoMass had a decent rookie year and is looking to build on it+ playing against TB’s D week 1 I’m leaning toward starting him and seeing what Ward does, final thoughts?

by year of the elf on Sep 9, 2010 1:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We have no idea what the Browns offense will look like in real games, or where Delhomme will go with the ball. Ward is a good possession receiver, and a fantastic target for a young, inexperienced quarterback who is looking to get rid of the ball. I think Dixon looks to Ward every time he doesn’t know what to do. And for all we know, the Browns are going to run the ball 40 times. I think Ward is clearly the better play.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it is a PPR go Welker.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little OT – but what do you think the impact of DA and Fitz on each other? Does Fitz athleticism give DA the big target that gives him a little spark? Or does DA ruin Fitz as a number 1 fantasy option?

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by realmccoy on Sep 8, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I would vote the latter of the two myself

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by Kimble_79 on Sep 8, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Fitz is still a viable #1 WR. Think Calvin Johnson in Det. the past several years.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took Derek Anderson with my final draft pick (as my backup QB) because I think Fitzgerald will help give DA a little spark. Anderson is probably best when he just throws the ball without thinking (as stupid as that sounds), but the difference with Fitz is that he won’t drop the ball as often as Braylon Edwards did.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 8, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, rec.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And rec again.

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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Sep 8, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let there be green.

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by North Coast Flea on Sep 8, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be afraid that Fitz gets stuck on triple coverage island with the “gunslinger” DA throwing the ball up for grabs and without Boldin as a sidekick. I like their other guys but I wonder how much opposing defenses are going to just try and stop Fitz knowing DA will probably still try to force him the ball and they can get easy turnovers.

In other words, DA thinks he the man and no matter what he’s going to try and prove it and what better way to prove it than throwing 20 passes to a double covered and smothered Fitzgerald.

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec for “triple coverage island”. I laughed.

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by rufio on Sep 9, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it will be a bit of both. DA will get a boost from Fitz and how great he is. However, I don’t think DA is a legitimate fantasy option and I don’t think he will be that good. Maybe he somehow scraps together a QB rating right around 70 or in the high 60s, but he will be better than here…not great, but better.

I think this hurts Fitz. Last year, I believe he was the 3rd best fantasy WR. In any league, that is a top end #1. However, because of DA, I think his stats will drop. He will still be a #1 option, but I would rank him maybe slightly ahead of Desean Jackson, Steve Smith, and Greg Jennings. Overall, He is still a top 10 guy IMO, but he is maybe 9th or 10th. So, he is definitely still a #1 but is a lower end #1

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The factors that led DA to have a good season in 2007 are somewhat at play with him in Arizona this season. Great receivers, an easy schedule, and a division that is unfamiliar with him. Counting against is the fact that in 2007, he had two great options at receiver along with a solid possession guy. Not sure he has all that in Arizona but Fitz is probably still greater than BE (in 07 form) and K2 combined. Also, despite the fact that the division has only seen DA once before, there is plenty of film on the guy.

Bottom line is I’d be borderline shocked to see him put up the numbers he put up in 2007. But I’d also be very surprised to see him put up what he put up last season. Although he will surely make boneheaded mistakes that will cost the Cardinals games, I think his season’s numbers will look respectable if not misleadingly good. On the other side of all this is that I don’t see Whisenhunt being as patient with DA as was Romeo, though he has even fewer options than Romeo.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty good discussions here.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I have a pretty darn good problem heading into this week… I’m not sure who to start at QB. Here are my options:
Brett Favre
Donovan McNabb
Mark Sanchez

… Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m really not considering Mark Sanchez since the Jets are playing against Baltimore. But I’m not sure who to go with between McNabb and Favre. If Sidney Rice was not injured then I would pick Favre over McNabb no questions asked. But do you think Favre will out-perform McNabb without Rice?

Also- Which one would you start out of these 3?
Jerome Harrison (vs. TB)
Knowshon Moreno (vs. Jac)
LeSean McCoy (vs. GB)

by shep615 on Sep 8, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the first game is bound to be a shootout, and I’m still hesitant that Washington’s offense can get it done. I’d start Favre tomorrow against the Saints.

Between the three running backs, I’d start Jerome Harrison in a heartbeat. I like any running back who is facing the Buccaneers’ defense.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 8, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded. Favre and Harrison.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thirded?

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by Kimble_79 on Sep 9, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Saints have a bit better Passing Defense than the Cowboys. However, AD helps make Defenses honest. The WRs outside of Rice are not amazing, but favre at least has a solid line, a running game, and receivers who can catch the ball. Go with favre

Even with the improvements like getting Mccoy, TB sucks against the run.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed with the above, Brett Favre.

As for RB, Harrison seems the most appealing, but definitely has his drawbacks, including but not limited to: potential fumble issues and losing redzone carries to Hillis. Still, I’d start him this week over the other 2.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping that the Saints attempt to bench Favre again and that McNabb takes his anger at Philly out on Dallas by throwing TDs all night to Moss.

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by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys! I’m trusting you and starting Favre and Harrison…
… But if I lose… :p

by shep615 on Sep 9, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing you wish you wouldn’t have started Favre now. Sorry for the advice

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by Kimble_79 on Sep 10, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Meachem (vs. MIN) or Devin Aromashodu (vs. DET)? (I also have Robo, but I’m not considering him.)

Chris Wells (vs. STL), C.J. Spiller (vs. MIA), or Ronnie Brown (vs. BUF)?

by emily522 on Sep 8, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly, I’d take Robo over the other two this week (though understand why you’re not considering him).

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by golanbatrac on Sep 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of those available, I’d take a bet on Aromashodu vs. Detroit. Meachem isn’t to bad either, if Colston is getting most of the coverage, he also has big play potential.

I think starting Chris Wells vs. one of the worst defenses in the league is tough to pass up. Arizona has made it clear they want to start a power running offense.
That said, Buffalo has a terrible running defense as well. Ronnie got 115 yards and 2 TDs in his last meeting with the Bills. I’d go with Ronnie week 1. But later in the season, Beanie isn’t a bad replacement when Ronnie goes down to injury.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. its tough between the 2 RBs. I just think that Beanie will get more touches and therefore, more yards. Brown isn’t a bad option, but when you got 2 backs, you usually go with the one that isn’t in a time-share situation.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really. Hightower will get some carries but for the year, Beanie is much less of a timeshare. if you are looking at both split back systems and % of the carries the main 2 backs got, beanie is much more the ‘feature’ back. Beanie got 55% of the carries last year as a rookie and Ronnie Brown got 38%. Brown isn’t even the main back in his own stable, whereas Beanie got the most touches last year in his stable. The team has also made it clear that it wants to feature beanie more and wants to focus more on the running game. that means, he will likely get 225+ total touches compared to his about 190 touches last season (so about an increase of 2 a game).

However, I was reading up and I didn’t know beanie was hurt. because beanie is hurt, he is not slated to start. for this week at least, Beanie IS as much of a timeshare as brown, but not for the whole season. Knowing more info now, i change my opinion to ronnie brown for this week.

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by bross09 on Sep 9, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it’s a PPR league, I’d start Hightower over Wells every time.

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by woodsmeister on Sep 9, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I woudl too.

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by bross09 on Sep 9, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brown got 38% because he was injured for half the season. When he was starting, he was clearly the dominant back. He has to be the play against Buffalo this week.

Also, the Cardinals have NOT made it clear that they want to feature Beanie more. In fact, they’ve done the opposite, even though Beanie is obviously the better runner. They’ve done nothing but rave about Hightower all preseason.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot he was injured…thanks for pointing that out.

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by bross09 on Sep 9, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh…and if you actually read, I do say brown is the start this week because I read that beanie won’t be at 100% so hightower is getting the start.

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by bross09 on Sep 9, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh…and if you actually read…

Yeesh. I emphasized that Brown was the clear play because you were being all waffly.

by Chemo on Sep 10, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I changed my opinion when i realized beanie’s injury status. without that, I would still say beanie, but he is going to get significantly less touches this week compared to others.

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by bross09 on Sep 10, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bross?? Seriously? Wikipedia stats don’t tell the whole story. Brown got 38% of the carries because he was out for HALF the season.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 9, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t you bring reason into this!

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 9, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t start spiller. I think against the same D, he may be the weakest option anyways, plus he is going against the strongest D. The RB dilemma is tough. I would say Beanie just because of the guarantee of carries. Buffalo is gonna have the worst rushing D but the risk with brown is how many touches he gets. i see beanie having a better week b/c he is IMO a better fantasy option…but its close

I think Minnesota’s secondary is better and deeper than last year. They picked up a couple nice guys to nickel and dime offenses. Plus, brees is the kinda QB where everyone gets their looks (when open) but its hard to predict targets sometimes. Aromashadu is going up against a pretty weak secondary, has some chemistry with cutler, and has a mike Martz offense. I would probably take Aromashadu and after that…its close between meachem and robo.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spiller was named the starter by Chan Gailey.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

tough between brown and wells; i’d go brown if forced to chose because he’s going to give you something no matter what. but wells could potentially have a big game against an awful STL team. either way you go i think you’re okay.

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 9, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hightower’s getting the start, but Wells should come into play in the red zone, CJ’s still a rook and Ronnie Brown is well, Ronnie Brown….he has single handedly beat me in weeks when my whole team decided not to show up….

by year of the elf on Sep 9, 2010 1:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wells apparently would have been the starter but is nursing an injury.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 9, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the Browns D/ST? Not sure they’ll be good to start the whole season, but I’m thinking at least week 1 against a bad Tampa offense it could be good. Hopefully Cribbs can run one back

by sww2109 on Sep 8, 2010 4:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i’d say for this week it wouldn’t be terrible, but unless you’re in a deep league I have to imagine there are better options.

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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially if special teams are involved, i consider the Browns a very good sleeper. Do we really expect TB to run up the score on us? Heck no. Play ’em!

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this depends on what your other options are. It’s possible the Browns vs. Tampa might be the best start, but it’s a rare occasion, and throughout this season, probably aren’t worth the roster spot.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of these 3, in a 1/2 point per reception league, which to start?
R. Bush vs H. Ward V M. Sims-Walker

I am leaning towards Sims-Walker at home.

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by mackAttack5 on Sep 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

i would take Sims-Walker also.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sims-Walker.

I’d be pretty hesitant to start Ward as long as Dixon is at QB. Reggie could be valuable in a 1/2 PPR league, but not ahead of an actual #1 WR.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel the other way on ward. i think as a veteran and pretty damn savvy player (that hurt to say), he’s going to get some catches and do everything he can to settle dixon down and carry him through the game. and if dixon gets a couple balls to ward, he’ll get comfortable with him.

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 9, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would definitely take MSW. With Ben playing, ward is a better fantasy option, but only slightly (maybe a point per week). with dixon in, its a start for Sims Walker for sure.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a PPR league, I’d go with Bush. He’ll also get some rushing yards.

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by woodsmeister on Sep 9, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

between one RB position and the flex position I’m looking at Felix Jones, Rickey Williams, Heath Miller, and Robi. I also have McGahee, but he’s playing the jets so I’m not really considering him an option.

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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I realize now I forgot the question, who do I start?

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by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

RB: Ricky Williams -(playing the Bills, most potential of those above, can break big runs in wildcat)

Flex: Heath Miller -(not ideal, but might get redzone targets, in Dixon’s 1 game last season though he only hit Heath twice)

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams over Jones. Both are in a tandem back situation. However, Buffalo is maybe going to be the worst run defense this year (definitely bottom 3) whereas rushing D was one of the few bright spots for Washington. With Buffalo being bad, and the amount each team runs (and the fact I think the dallas game will be a shootout), Ricky williams will get significantly more touches and will get more yards.

I would say Felix jones for the flex personally. I am not high on Heath without Big Ben. Miller is a good player, but he has always seemed the best with Ben in and Roethlisberger always seems to go to him when in trouble. Miller has a better matchup but I worry about his targets.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

…actually, I might go out on a limb and start Robi. As bad as tampa’s rushing D was last year, their passing D was almost as bad. They were 27th worst at stopping their opponents scoring through the air. they were bottom 10 in net yards per attempt. Teams didn’t pass a lot against them, but when they did, they had success (they mostly ran b/c the run D was so bad and they were usually ahead).

…Plus, talib is gone and I like Robi’s chances against Myron Lewis (3rd round rookie) or EJ Biggers (7th rounder from last year who played as much for the bucs as coye did for us)

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Start Felix and Ricky, no question. The other two are terrible (Heath) and a total mystery (Robi). Felix and Ricky are guaranteed 10 touches each, which is a lot more than you can say for the other two.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty depressed about having to start Donavon McNabb. Almost to the point where I’m considering picking up Anderson vs. STL….

That’s so sad.

Anderception [an·der·cep·tion] -noun
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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

McNabb will have a good game.

Facts. Facts. Data. Data. Evidence. screw it. NFL Football is here!!

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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco vs Jets or Delhomme this week? Leaning towards Jake.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 8, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno how good revis will be since he JUST stopped holding out and wasn’t practicing. Even without this, I may take flacco. Last year, probably not. However, this year flacco has Boldin and Housh and even before getting Housh, I thought he was poised to break out.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Revis will be good, but if they keep him on one guy (not sure who that guy would be) i agree Flacco still has plenty of other options to throw to.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. If this was Pittsburgh…then it would be a different story, because they have almost no one without ward to throw to.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If our coaches had that mind set we’d get torched by Mike Williams.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 8, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean not pay attention to mike williams?

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant Wallace.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 8, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh…Now I get it…Its also confusing b/c we are facing Mike Williams on sunday.

yeah, that would be a bad attitude to have, i am just pointing out that revis is more effective on a team like Pittsburgh where they have a #1, but Wallace isn’t an amazing #2. Cromartie can handle him though.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see him at all last year or this preseason? Pittsburgh found something great in this kid. His 40 time? 4.33. Yea.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 9, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Wallace could have a really good season. However, everything in the preseason has to be taken with some grain of salt (thought it’s a good sign for him) and 40 times aren’t everything.

Plus, like I said, Cromartie CAN cover him. 4.33 is excellent but Cromartie’s 4.37-4.38 is not too shabby either. Plus, Cromartie is 2 inches taller and has a 2 inch higher vertical leap so Cromartie would beat him out on jump balls. Wallace has ridiculous skills, but Cromartie has skills just as ridiculous to keep up.

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by bross09 on Sep 9, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco doesn’t care about Revis Island. All he does is dump it to Ray Rice and let Rice do all the work. Plus, for all you know, the Browns are going to run the ball 40 times and never let Jake throw the ball.

I don’t like either matchup this week, but you’re crazy to start Jake over anybody until you’ve seen a couple regular-season games.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Browns are going to run the ball 40 times and never let Jake throw the ball.

Speculative hyperbole.

The Browns need to get the passing game going. These first two games should be about establishing a balanced offense. If we can’t throw the ball against a Talibless Bucs defense, we’re in trouble.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 9, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why did you cut off the first half of my sentence? I said “For all you know, the Browns are going to run the ball 40 times…” That’s a pretty important qualifier.

The point is that we haven’t seen this offense in a real game, and we don’t know how they’ll operate. You know Flacco is going to get the opportunity to throw. We don’t know yet if the Browns will revert to last year’s run-heavy attack.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah! I misread what you wrote.

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by golanbatrac on Sep 9, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec for “Talibless.”

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 9, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

My number 1 RB is MJD – so no question there.

My problem is deciding on the number 2. Do I start C. Williams against the Browns D (very tempting) or start J. Best – who I feel is going to be a stud – against Chicago?

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally I can never start anyone against the Browns. I also hope that Ward is a RB seeking missile this season. Also I have Best on my team. Yeah, I’m biased.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have that problem with pick’em – I can never bet against my Brownies. Choosing 1 player to have a good day – as long as we win – doesn’t bother me!

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t have confidence in Tampa being able to move down the field so I see minimal TDs during the season for Cadillac. Urlacher is back, but who knows what he has left, and I think the browns rushing D has made more strides forward than Chicago (even if you count Urlacher coming back healthy). Best is also a better option out of the backfield as a 3rd down guy so he is valuable there. caddy may rack up more yards rushing, but best can get you receiving and more TDs.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jahvid Best is legit.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. Which is why I have him in both my fantasy leagues.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 9, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit has an awful line though and might be a gun slinging team. I do like Best’s talent.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 9, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

This week could easily turn into a disaster for Caddy. If things go bad for Best, he’ll still get passes out of the backfield. With your second RB, you just want to make sure you get some production, and you’ll get that from Best this week.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with most. Best is legit, and Caddy is a roll of the dice.

bet you ten bucs (tee hee) we hurt him in the first half.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 9, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Rice (NYJ), Ryan Matthews (KC), Forte (Detroit) – I’m leaning against Forte sitting out but it seems like a good matchup for him and Rice might not be awesome against the Jets.

What do you guys reckon?

by skipkirk on Sep 8, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Erm didn’t mean to do that formatting. Soz.

by skipkirk on Sep 8, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d go Rice and Matthews. I hate to start a Rookie right off the bat – but the Chargers love to run it and K.C. let Harrison run for how many yards last year….?

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Sep 8, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely take Matthews. great matchup. I like forte as a 3rd back (very underrated) but Rice is so good that even if he has a bad matchup and forte has a good one, I would still take rice.

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by bross09 on Sep 8, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

After last season I refuse to comment on Forte.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. I thought he’d be a stud last year. I was dead wrong.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 8, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I had him in two of me leagues because he was such a rookie stud.

by skipkirk on Sep 8, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rice and Matthews for sure. Keep benching Forte until he proves he is going to be consistent.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flex spot: Cribbs or Ahmad Bradshaw? I do get pts for receptions and returns.

Tribe fan trapped in Kansas

by Avindian on Sep 8, 2010 11:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Bradshaw.

He is the starter in NY now and should get 20 carries plus some catches. I love Cribbs but he will maybe get five targets in Sunday’s game. Bradshaw is the smart play.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess what RB I drafted… =D

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My breakout candidates are Bradshaw and Harvin.

I think Harvin, even with no Rice, will finish the season as a top 12 WR.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you get points on return yardage? If so how much?

In my money league we get 1 point every 25 return yards, in which case Cribbs is a fine flex play.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same score in my league. That’s the only reason I’m thinking about it. Otherwise i’d pick Bradshaw. Plus, hoping for some success out of the Wildcat.

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by Avindian on Sep 9, 2010 12:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Most weeks I’d go Cribbs, but I think the Browns could really shut down the Bucs — and that means no kickoff returns, which is where the big points are. If Cribbs only gets three kickoff returns, he’s probably only going to get you four or five points, and I think Bradshaw does better.

by Chemo on Sep 9, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but an average punt return is about 5 yards. An average kickoff return is closer to 30 yards. If you’re picking a returner, you want a guy who’s going to get a lot of kickoffs.

by Chemo on Sep 10, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe earlier today it was either PFT OR ESPN reported Cribbs isn’t going to be doing much return work….I understand he’s gonna have more work on offense but I find it hard to believe someone who’s made the Pro Bowl multiple times b/c of ST isn’t going to return much….any truth to it, or smoke screen?

by year of the elf on Sep 9, 2010 1:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Cribbs will be returning kicks, but he won’t be covering kicks, unless it is a special situation.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 9, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya I went back and read it, I was in a rush before work, lol

by year of the elf on Sep 9, 2010 1:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok. Brett Favre vs. Alex Smith.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 9, 2010 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Brett Favre.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 9, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alex who?

come on now.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 9, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Smith shouldn’t be getting many touches with Evan Moore and Ben Watson playing ahead of him.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.

by notthatnoise on Sep 9, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wrong Alex Smith.

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For the love of Joe Thomas.....

by North Coast Flea on Sep 9, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope our FO realized that

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

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I understand, as a big daddy come and take my spot type of demeanor?

by mooncamping on May 14, 2010 7:24 AM EDT

by Villeslgr on Sep 9, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just worried Favre would turn it over, and Smith is playing the Seahawks. In any case, I’m going with Favre, and that locks in about 2 minutes.

Kill them. Kill them all.

by StuckInPa on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suggestions for 3rd receiver?

I’m in an ESPN league with a RB/WR slot. Since i’m thin at RB right now I’m looking at 3 receivers this week. The third spot is up between

Steve Breaston (Arizona) @ St Louis
Jacoby Jones (Houston) @ Indianapolis
Devin Hester (Chicago) @ Detroit

After last season I’m not high on Hester, but Detroit still seems to have a porous secondary. Any thoughts/suggestions are welcome!

by Monsters of the Midway on Sep 9, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

try going ballsy with Jones. You know Houston is going to throw, and throw pretty well.
Fitz will get looks in Arizona, but you can’t be sure how good the offense will be.

but if your league counts return yards, and Breaston is returning, take him.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 9, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the input Roger and disco.

by Monsters of the Midway on Sep 9, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jacoby Jones will do some things.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 9, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Percy Harvin…headache tonite or TD’s? I think i will start him.

Go Browns!! 5-11 2010 then the winning begins in 2011!

by Red-Right-88 on Sep 9, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

wait for him to have one or two monster games, then trade him for a reliable player…. (ideally one poised for greatness in weeks 14-17)

by discoinferno083 on Sep 9, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I started him this week. 1.2pts. Thanks Pearcy!

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by Kimble_79 on Sep 10, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

OUCH.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Donald Driver or Meachem?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 9, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d go Driver. You know he’s going to be a solid #2 WR, whereas the Saints #1, 2, or 3 WR changes week to week.

I would literally start Meachem every third game.

There some some guys that pattern works with, for some reason.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 9, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I’ll start ’em both.

I’m thinking of Dropping Gaffney for Ginn.

Do it?

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 9, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m hoping you’re in an extremely deep league, and didn’t just target those WR’s intentionally.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 9, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it’s pretty deep. And I meant picking Ginn off the wavier.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 9, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

For my flex: Pierre Garcon (against Houston) or Ricky Williams (against Buffalo). I am starting Ronnie Brown & Cedric Benson at RB — so there are pluses and minuses to playing both Dolphins’ RB’s. My instinct is to play Garcon but I go back and forth.

(This is not for the DBN league.)

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 9, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

PIERRE GARCONNNNNNNNNNNN =D

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 9, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s from UMU.

Hometown love.

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 11, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

apparently, PT > AP.

who knew?

by discoinferno083 on Sep 11, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Which combination of Dwayne Bowe, Michael Floyd or Thomas Jones for the WR and Flex Spot would you use?

by MDBrownie on Sep 11, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas Jones

I can't believe Cribbs was considered the second best athlete in Cleveland.

LBJ. Lying. Backstabbing. Jackass.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 11, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean Malcom Floyd?

I’m expecting big things from Thomas Jones.. I would do some research and try to find out who the featured back is (he or Jamaal Charles)

Bowe is the better reciver, but San D. should have a good aerial attack.

TJ and Floyd.

by discoinferno083 on Sep 11, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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